Big win for Duke after beating Louisville with UNC coming up. Notre Dame offense starting to heat up beating UNC and Clemson.
Gonna be tough to duplicate the Irish run from last year, shoulda had a better draw after winning the ACC. Still just missed the final 4, painful but still satisfying.
The final blown call was no worse than Dook going to the line
On something like 6 of their last 8 possessions prior to it. Refs let both teams play for 30 minutes and then put the clamps on one team in the last ten.
... that should have sent his punk ass to the locker room for the day. MD is getting owned. The whole is much less than the sum of the parts. Offense has been weak just about all season. Middle-of-the-road Big 10.
... that should have sent his punk ass to the locker room for the day. MD is getting owned. The whole is much less than the sum of the parts. Offense has been weak just about all season. Middle-of-the-road Big 10.
Stone is a fucking scumbag. Not only did he not get thrown out for what he did, the refs called DOUBLE TECHS. WHAT?! Dude literally slammed someone's head into the ground on purpose.
Huge win for Wisc. It's amazing that we even have a chance to get into the tourney after a 9-9 start.
Hat to Ingram who had a stretch where he looked like a NBA stud. But man we got screwed.
Despite Allen taking more free throws than our entire team, despite the refs letting them play in the first half and then calling a foul on seemingly every possession that Duke didn't score and getting into the bonus halfway through the second half, that last play was the game.
... yesterday (and, yes, Stone did deserve to be tossed), I am so glad the Terps are out of the ACC and the crap that goes on as depicted by the video that was linked above.
I still remember the 1980 ACC Tourney final in Greensboro that I was at where Kenny Dennard undercut Buck Williams at the buzzer to preserve a one-point championship victory.
is exceeded only by my joy reading the post-mortems from Mook and Greg and the other bashers. I have a bad feeling about the upcoming game with the Heels - but us Dukies have had it too good for too long. Best wishes to all.
and went up and down. The ball was still in his hand when his right foot hit the floor - for the third time. Terrible officiating.
Not to mention that Allen clearly threw his elbow forward into the UVA defender's face to create space. It should have been a walk, up and down or a foul on Allen. Instead it's a game winner. Ridiculous.
It's the double whammy though. Typically terrible ACC officiating. And you're at Cameron Gym. You're not getting that call at the buzzer.
In the double bonus with 8:30 left. I knew it was going to be tough to win at that point but it's devastating to have the lead and lose on that traveling up-and-down by that tripping flopper.
It wasn't quite as bad as the Rick Hartzell robbery in 1997
Dookie fans act like they have no idea why everyone on the planet can't stand that team. Or they try to make themselves feel better by cackling that it's because Dookie wins a lot. Yeah, sure. If that gets them through the night..
Bottom line is its a program that has historically been loaded with insanely unlikable jock sniffers, floppers, privileged snobs and a whiny ass coach that gets every call, every whistle when it matters most. And the fans (all named Rob, apparently) are absolutely intolerable. No different than Cowboys fans. Oh, and they play in a shit ass tiny gymnasium and somehow have sold us on the fact that it is somehow something more, because the students don't shut up. There's only one reason why it is such a tough place for an opponent. The officials fear the wrath of the rat.
Why many people dislike Duke - primarily it has to do with hatred of success (see Yankees and Patriots), jealousy, and the fact that excellent schools aren't supposed to be blessed with all time great coaches.
Most of what you wrote says more about the people that hate Duke, rather than Duke itself.
1. They're the best. If Christian Laettner wasn't any good, no one would have cared that he acted like a jerk. (Greg Newton was an even bigger one than Laettner but no one cares about him because he's a nobody.) But he was the best player in college basketball, so there was a reason to despise him other than his cockiness and swagger.
Similarly, if Duke just had a obnoxious coach, it would be West Virginia. If Duke simply had crazy fans, it would be Maryland. If the team only flopped, it would be Real Madrid.
But Duke piles up the haters because, in addition to all those things, it's the best program in college basketball. Four national championships in the last 21 years. Eleven Final Four appearances since 1986. Eight title game appearances over the same span. No other school can match those credentials.
UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan State, etc...Plenty of schools have had enormous success over the years. Recent years. Yet none of these schools are "hated" anywhere near as much as Dookie.
Keep telling yourself it's jealousy, if it makes you feel better. It's nowhere near the truth, but why should the truth matter, right? It's that arrogance that the rest of the world laughs at and cringes over.
"It's because we're awesome!". Bwahaaaaaaaa! Except, you're not?
UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan State, etc...Plenty of schools have had enormous success over the years. Recent years. Yet none of these schools are "hated" anywhere near as much as Dookie.
Keep telling yourself it's jealousy, if it makes you feel better. It's nowhere near the truth, but why should the truth matter, right? It's that arrogance that the rest of the world laughs at and cringes over.
"It's because we're awesome!". Bwahaaaaaaaa! Except, you're not?
There some great schools on that list, but just based on popular rankings (US News, as an example) none are peers of Duke academically, which makes your point, unsurprisingly, irrelevant.
You also included Kentucky, which is barely a university when it comes to academics and basketball, and UNC, which literally had to create an entire program for its athletes to play with blocks for a couple of hours to get grades.
UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan State, etc...Plenty of schools have had enormous success over the years. Recent years. Yet none of these schools are "hated" anywhere near as much as Dookie.
Keep telling yourself it's jealousy, if it makes you feel better. It's nowhere near the truth, but why should the truth matter, right? It's that arrogance that the rest of the world laughs at and cringes over.
"It's because we're awesome!". Bwahaaaaaaaa! Except, you're not?
There some great schools on that list, but just based on popular rankings (US News, as an example) none are peers of Duke academically, which makes your point, unsurprisingly, irrelevant.
You also included Kentucky, which is barely a university when it comes to academics and basketball, and UNC, which literally had to create an entire program for its athletes to play with blocks for a couple of hours to get grades.
You think people hate Duke because it's a good school? Seriously?
Its like thinking that everyone that drives a Porsche is a prick...some are, but a lot of people that think that would drive one given the chance. Jealousy.
You can see the same thing emerging about UVA - great school, isn't supposed to be a great basketball school. Notre Dame has its detractors based on years of success and nothing else.
Sports fans love an underdog, hate the champs, generally speaking - people who hate Lebron can rationalize it how they want, but there is a core truth there.
You can't possibly be this obtuse. Not even you believe the shit that you say/type. People don't hate UNC as much because they created classes? And no hatred for Kentucky because it's not as good academically? Haha. This is one for the archives. Whenever you ask yourself why your school is universally loathed, think back to this thread. Arrogant fucking pricks that think they are better than everyone else. This is absolutely a perfect example. Despicable.
Stanford football should be the most hated program in the country. It's a better school than Duke, and in recent history has been just as successful if not more so.
But it isn't, because David Shaw is fucking awesome and they aren't smarmy pieces of shit.
The academic factor really plays little influence. It's far more about the behavior of the rat faced fuck in charge and his players.
for those with limited ability to read and comprehend.
academics, "among other things".
I don't think universally means what you think it does, or if it does, I would ask you to provide some proof for your hyperbole. I suspect I will be waiting a long time.
Kudos though, for correctly using obtuse - word of the day calendar?
for those with limited ability to read and comprehend.
academics, "among other things".
I don't think universally means what you think it does, or if it does, I would ask you to provide some proof for your hyperbole. I suspect I will be waiting a long time.
Kudos though, for correctly using obtuse - word of the day calendar?
This whole post pretty much oozes that cunty attitude for which Duke players/coaches/fans are known for. At least you are confident enough to double down on it.
"recent history has been just as successful if not more so"
Stanford is a fantastic school and football program, but isn't the standard for success National Championships, final ranking? Neither one would place Stanford football ahead of Duke basketball in recent, medium, or long-term (since K took over, if you want to go back that far).
I also think duration has something to do with it - Shaw has been HC of Stanford for what, 5 years.
for those with limited ability to read and comprehend.
academics, "among other things".
I don't think universally means what you think it does, or if it does, I would ask you to provide some proof for your hyperbole. I suspect I will be waiting a long time.
Kudos though, for correctly using obtuse - word of the day calendar?
This whole post pretty much oozes that cunty attitude for which Duke players/coaches/fans are known for. At least you are confident enough to double down on it.
Or, I am just having some fun with it, the way I started this thread going at Greg, which we have doing for years. BBS thought it would be more fun to be a douche and interject, so I responded to him the way he addressed me.
to get into the history of Duke hate, or the history of complaints about officiating in Duke games. The majority of hate levied at Duke is because they are a tremendously prestigious school with a great history of winning, and because they have a lot of white players and coach (an incredible basketball coach) who is treated as someone who coaches "the right way" and is above reproach when many fans of other programs would disagree. Were it not for those things, the rest wouldn't be an issue. I'm aware of it. I used to love Duke as a little kid and I'm marrying into Duke fandom.
There is no response to Duke's run of dominance as a basketball program or Duke's prestige as an academic institution. I tip my cap and respect both of those earned reputations.
Patting themselves on the back for getting in. Meanwhile I always looked at it as an Ivy safety school - on par with UVA. Comparing yourselves to a Porsche? Seriously? More like a BMW. Nothing to be ashamed of but still.
Second, the basketball players for the most part that attended Duke would never get in on their own merits - and K now full out recruits the one-and-dones. So what you have is a really good 'program' that shares a campus with a solid unspectacular 2nd tier group of rich white kids and otherwise has nothing in common with them.
I'm not sure any of this is grounds for jealousy - people tend to hate Duke because they win so much and people are sick of that. Also K for decades acting like he's the most benevolent, gentle man in the world but if you actually watch the games he is insufferable with referees - and really is no better than Calipari when it comes to developing young men.
A lot of this is the kabuki Rob and I have performed for years
While he undoubtedly is an arrogant Dookie, I'm pretty sure he didn't consider this game a "glorified exhibition" when he was checking his shorts for cleanliness after Brogs hit the actual game winning shot.
While he undoubtedly is an arrogant Dookie, I'm pretty sure he didn't consider this game a "glorified exhibition" when he was checking his shorts for cleanliness after Brogs hit the actual game winning shot.
True, unfortunately given the changing nature of the site, we have to deal with the mouth breathers that don't see it for what it is.
Big win for Duke after beating Louisville with UNC coming up. Notre Dame offense starting to heat up beating UNC and Clemson.
Gonna be tough to duplicate the Irish run from last year, shoulda had a better draw after winning the ACC. Still just missed the final 4, painful but still satisfying.
He's the most overrated player in the country. Ingram is the real deal, though. That kid killed us.
Almost makes me wish for the days of Jim Burr.
Stone is a fucking scumbag. Not only did he not get thrown out for what he did, the refs called DOUBLE TECHS. WHAT?! Dude literally slammed someone's head into the ground on purpose.
Huge win for Wisc. It's amazing that we even have a chance to get into the tourney after a 9-9 start.
Despite Allen taking more free throws than our entire team, despite the refs letting them play in the first half and then calling a foul on seemingly every possession that Duke didn't score and getting into the bonus halfway through the second half, that last play was the game.
This video sums it up.
http://youtu.be/hY6JR-qVGew - ( New Window )
I still remember the 1980 ACC Tourney final in Greensboro that I was at where Kenny Dennard undercut Buck Williams at the buzzer to preserve a one-point championship victory.
1980 ACC FINALE - ( New Window )
It was definitely at least 3 steps
Not to mention that Allen clearly threw his elbow forward into the UVA defender's face to create space. It should have been a walk, up and down or a foul on Allen. Instead it's a game winner. Ridiculous.
It's the double whammy though. Typically terrible ACC officiating. And you're at Cameron Gym. You're not getting that call at the buzzer.
21 years, and UVa can't catch Duke on a single bad day - I mean, what are the odds?
Bottom line is its a program that has historically been loaded with insanely unlikable jock sniffers, floppers, privileged snobs and a whiny ass coach that gets every call, every whistle when it matters most. And the fans (all named Rob, apparently) are absolutely intolerable. No different than Cowboys fans. Oh, and they play in a shit ass tiny gymnasium and somehow have sold us on the fact that it is somehow something more, because the students don't shut up. There's only one reason why it is such a tough place for an opponent. The officials fear the wrath of the rat.
Most of what you wrote says more about the people that hate Duke, rather than Duke itself.
1. They're the best. If Christian Laettner wasn't any good, no one would have cared that he acted like a jerk. (Greg Newton was an even bigger one than Laettner but no one cares about him because he's a nobody.) But he was the best player in college basketball, so there was a reason to despise him other than his cockiness and swagger.
Similarly, if Duke just had a obnoxious coach, it would be West Virginia. If Duke simply had crazy fans, it would be Maryland. If the team only flopped, it would be Real Madrid.
But Duke piles up the haters because, in addition to all those things, it's the best program in college basketball. Four national championships in the last 21 years. Eleven Final Four appearances since 1986. Eight title game appearances over the same span. No other school can match those credentials.
Keep telling yourself it's jealousy, if it makes you feel better. It's nowhere near the truth, but why should the truth matter, right? It's that arrogance that the rest of the world laughs at and cringes over.
"It's because we're awesome!". Bwahaaaaaaaa! Except, you're not?
Keep telling yourself it's jealousy, if it makes you feel better. It's nowhere near the truth, but why should the truth matter, right? It's that arrogance that the rest of the world laughs at and cringes over.
"It's because we're awesome!". Bwahaaaaaaaa! Except, you're not?
There some great schools on that list, but just based on popular rankings (US News, as an example) none are peers of Duke academically, which makes your point, unsurprisingly, irrelevant.
You also included Kentucky, which is barely a university when it comes to academics and basketball, and UNC, which literally had to create an entire program for its athletes to play with blocks for a couple of hours to get grades.
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UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan State, etc...Plenty of schools have had enormous success over the years. Recent years. Yet none of these schools are "hated" anywhere near as much as Dookie.
Keep telling yourself it's jealousy, if it makes you feel better. It's nowhere near the truth, but why should the truth matter, right? It's that arrogance that the rest of the world laughs at and cringes over.
"It's because we're awesome!". Bwahaaaaaaaa! Except, you're not?
There some great schools on that list, but just based on popular rankings (US News, as an example) none are peers of Duke academically, which makes your point, unsurprisingly, irrelevant.
You also included Kentucky, which is barely a university when it comes to academics and basketball, and UNC, which literally had to create an entire program for its athletes to play with blocks for a couple of hours to get grades.
You think people hate Duke because it's a good school? Seriously?
You can see the same thing emerging about UVA - great school, isn't supposed to be a great basketball school. Notre Dame has its detractors based on years of success and nothing else.
Sports fans love an underdog, hate the champs, generally speaking - people who hate Lebron can rationalize it how they want, but there is a core truth there.
You can't possibly be this obtuse. Not even you believe the shit that you say/type. People don't hate UNC as much because they created classes? And no hatred for Kentucky because it's not as good academically? Haha. This is one for the archives. Whenever you ask yourself why your school is universally loathed, think back to this thread. Arrogant fucking pricks that think they are better than everyone else. This is absolutely a perfect example. Despicable.
But it isn't, because David Shaw is fucking awesome and they aren't smarmy pieces of shit.
The academic factor really plays little influence. It's far more about the behavior of the rat faced fuck in charge and his players.
academics, "among other things".
I don't think universally means what you think it does, or if it does, I would ask you to provide some proof for your hyperbole. I suspect I will be waiting a long time.
Kudos though, for correctly using obtuse - word of the day calendar?
academics, "among other things".
I don't think universally means what you think it does, or if it does, I would ask you to provide some proof for your hyperbole. I suspect I will be waiting a long time.
Kudos though, for correctly using obtuse - word of the day calendar?
This whole post pretty much oozes that cunty attitude for which Duke players/coaches/fans are known for. At least you are confident enough to double down on it.
Stanford is a fantastic school and football program, but isn't the standard for success National Championships, final ranking? Neither one would place Stanford football ahead of Duke basketball in recent, medium, or long-term (since K took over, if you want to go back that far).
I also think duration has something to do with it - Shaw has been HC of Stanford for what, 5 years.
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for those with limited ability to read and comprehend.
academics, "among other things".
I don't think universally means what you think it does, or if it does, I would ask you to provide some proof for your hyperbole. I suspect I will be waiting a long time.
Kudos though, for correctly using obtuse - word of the day calendar?
This whole post pretty much oozes that cunty attitude for which Duke players/coaches/fans are known for. At least you are confident enough to double down on it.
Or, I am just having some fun with it, the way I started this thread going at Greg, which we have doing for years. BBS thought it would be more fun to be a douche and interject, so I responded to him the way he addressed me.
There is no response to Duke's run of dominance as a basketball program or Duke's prestige as an academic institution. I tip my cap and respect both of those earned reputations.
My complaints lie within this particular game.
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Second, the basketball players for the most part that attended Duke would never get in on their own merits - and K now full out recruits the one-and-dones. So what you have is a really good 'program' that shares a campus with a solid unspectacular 2nd tier group of rich white kids and otherwise has nothing in common with them.
I'm not sure any of this is grounds for jealousy - people tend to hate Duke because they win so much and people are sick of that. Also K for decades acting like he's the most benevolent, gentle man in the world but if you actually watch the games he is insufferable with referees - and really is no better than Calipari when it comes to developing young men.
True, unfortunately given the changing nature of the site, we have to deal with the mouth breathers that don't see it for what it is.