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B in ALB : 2/13/2016 6:28 pm
Going down to the wire at Cameron Gymnasium. Duke up by 1 with 27 seconds left.
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RE: RE: Let's see  
Jon in NYC : 2/15/2016 9:25 am : link
In comment 12815246 Rob in CT/NYC said:
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In comment 12814840 BigBlueShock said:


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UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan State, etc...Plenty of schools have had enormous success over the years. Recent years. Yet none of these schools are "hated" anywhere near as much as Dookie.

Keep telling yourself it's jealousy, if it makes you feel better. It's nowhere near the truth, but why should the truth matter, right? It's that arrogance that the rest of the world laughs at and cringes over.

"It's because we're awesome!". Bwahaaaaaaaa! Except, you're not?



There some great schools on that list, but just based on popular rankings (US News, as an example) none are peers of Duke academically, which makes your point, unsurprisingly, irrelevant.

You also included Kentucky, which is barely a university when it comes to academics and basketball, and UNC, which literally had to create an entire program for its athletes to play with blocks for a couple of hours to get grades.


You think people hate Duke because it's a good school? Seriously?
Among other things  
Rob in CT/NYC : 2/15/2016 9:32 am : link
Its like thinking that everyone that drives a Porsche is a prick...some are, but a lot of people that think that would drive one given the chance. Jealousy.

You can see the same thing emerging about UVA - great school, isn't supposed to be a great basketball school. Notre Dame has its detractors based on years of success and nothing else.

Sports fans love an underdog, hate the champs, generally speaking - people who hate Lebron can rationalize it how they want, but there is a core truth there.
So wait  
BigBlueShock : 2/15/2016 10:03 am : link
now, everyone hates Duke because of academics?

You can't possibly be this obtuse. Not even you believe the shit that you say/type. People don't hate UNC as much because they created classes? And no hatred for Kentucky because it's not as good academically? Haha. This is one for the archives. Whenever you ask yourself why your school is universally loathed, think back to this thread. Arrogant fucking pricks that think they are better than everyone else. This is absolutely a perfect example. Despicable.
By that rationale  
Jon in NYC : 2/15/2016 10:05 am : link
Stanford football should be the most hated program in the country. It's a better school than Duke, and in recent history has been just as successful if not more so.

But it isn't, because David Shaw is fucking awesome and they aren't smarmy pieces of shit.

The academic factor really plays little influence. It's far more about the behavior of the rat faced fuck in charge and his players.
Some points of correction  
Rob in CT/NYC : 2/15/2016 10:08 am : link
for those with limited ability to read and comprehend.

academics, "among other things".

I don't think universally means what you think it does, or if it does, I would ask you to provide some proof for your hyperbole. I suspect I will be waiting a long time.

Kudos though, for correctly using obtuse - word of the day calendar?
RE: Some points of correction  
Jon in NYC : 2/15/2016 10:10 am : link
In comment 12815285 Rob in CT/NYC said:
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for those with limited ability to read and comprehend.

academics, "among other things".

I don't think universally means what you think it does, or if it does, I would ask you to provide some proof for your hyperbole. I suspect I will be waiting a long time.

Kudos though, for correctly using obtuse - word of the day calendar?


This whole post pretty much oozes that cunty attitude for which Duke players/coaches/fans are known for. At least you are confident enough to double down on it.
Is this at all correct?  
Rob in CT/NYC : 2/15/2016 10:13 am : link
"recent history has been just as successful if not more so"

Stanford is a fantastic school and football program, but isn't the standard for success National Championships, final ranking? Neither one would place Stanford football ahead of Duke basketball in recent, medium, or long-term (since K took over, if you want to go back that far).

I also think duration has something to do with it - Shaw has been HC of Stanford for what, 5 years.
I do enjoy the irony of Coach K  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 2/15/2016 10:13 am : link
becoming everything he despised and railed against regarding Dean Smith.
RE: RE: Some points of correction  
Rob in CT/NYC : 2/15/2016 10:15 am : link
In comment 12815287 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 12815285 Rob in CT/NYC said:


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for those with limited ability to read and comprehend.

academics, "among other things".

I don't think universally means what you think it does, or if it does, I would ask you to provide some proof for your hyperbole. I suspect I will be waiting a long time.

Kudos though, for correctly using obtuse - word of the day calendar?



This whole post pretty much oozes that cunty attitude for which Duke players/coaches/fans are known for. At least you are confident enough to double down on it.


Or, I am just having some fun with it, the way I started this thread going at Greg, which we have doing for years. BBS thought it would be more fun to be a douche and interject, so I responded to him the way he addressed me.
I'm not going  
PaulBlakeTSU : 2/15/2016 10:20 am : link
to get into the history of Duke hate, or the history of complaints about officiating in Duke games. The majority of hate levied at Duke is because they are a tremendously prestigious school with a great history of winning, and because they have a lot of white players and coach (an incredible basketball coach) who is treated as someone who coaches "the right way" and is above reproach when many fans of other programs would disagree. Were it not for those things, the rest wouldn't be an issue. I'm aware of it. I used to love Duke as a little kid and I'm marrying into Duke fandom.

There is no response to Duke's run of dominance as a basketball program or Duke's prestige as an academic institution. I tip my cap and respect both of those earned reputations.

My complaints lie within this particular game.
Greg  
MookGiants : 2/15/2016 11:21 am : link
if you're around today shoot me an email.

mookgiants@gmail.com
I do get a kick out of Duke kids  
MetsAreBack : 2/15/2016 11:36 am : link
Patting themselves on the back for getting in. Meanwhile I always looked at it as an Ivy safety school - on par with UVA. Comparing yourselves to a Porsche? Seriously? More like a BMW. Nothing to be ashamed of but still.

Second, the basketball players for the most part that attended Duke would never get in on their own merits - and K now full out recruits the one-and-dones. So what you have is a really good 'program' that shares a campus with a solid unspectacular 2nd tier group of rich white kids and otherwise has nothing in common with them.

I'm not sure any of this is grounds for jealousy - people tend to hate Duke because they win so much and people are sick of that. Also K for decades acting like he's the most benevolent, gentle man in the world but if you actually watch the games he is insufferable with referees - and really is no better than Calipari when it comes to developing young men.
A lot of this is the kabuki Rob and I have performed for years  
Greg from LI : 2/15/2016 11:43 am : link
While he undoubtedly is an arrogant Dookie, I'm pretty sure he didn't consider this game a "glorified exhibition" when he was checking his shorts for cleanliness after Brogs hit the actual game winning shot.
MAB  
Rob in CT/NYC : 2/15/2016 11:58 am : link
I think you view Duke much the way that I view Citi - sort of Wall Street for light weight thinkers.
RE: A lot of this is the kabuki Rob and I have performed for years  
Rob in CT/NYC : 2/15/2016 12:00 pm : link
In comment 12815400 Greg from LI said:
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While he undoubtedly is an arrogant Dookie, I'm pretty sure he didn't consider this game a "glorified exhibition" when he was checking his shorts for cleanliness after Brogs hit the actual game winning shot.


True, unfortunately given the changing nature of the site, we have to deal with the mouth breathers that don't see it for what it is.
ehh, plenty of people  
PaulBlakeTSU : 2/15/2016 1:19 pm : link
choose Duke and UVA over several Ivy League schools.
Paul  
Rob in CT/NYC : 2/15/2016 1:29 pm : link
particularly if you don't want to go to school in a toilet, like UPenn or Columbia (and I went Columbia).
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