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Will Hill Suspended 10 Games

DaddyM89 : 3/16/2016 5:19 pm
not a surprise, a lot of BBIers were expecting news like this to come out.

Adam Schefter on Twitter: "Ravens' S Will Hill has been suspended 10 games for violating NFL's substance abuse policy, league sources @caplannfl and me."
lel.  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/16/2016 5:19 pm : link
Welp, so much for kicking the tires.
Is he still under contract with the Ravens?  
Mark C : 3/16/2016 5:22 pm : link
(If so, probably not for long.)
What an idiot.  
fivehead : 3/16/2016 5:24 pm : link
He could have smoked himself silly for sixty years after retiring from football, but couldn't stay clean for the short term.
in hindsight  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/16/2016 5:24 pm : link
I think we can put to rest the debate on whether or not the Giants made the right decision.
This is very sad  
SGMen : 3/16/2016 5:24 pm : link
I understand addiction, I get it. I'm guessing this is marijuana again. It is sad to see this young guy can't kick the addiction bug.

I know folks that smoke just about daily. I know folks who have lost union jobs (suspended really....) due to pot and can't get their job back cause they can't "quit" long enough.

I hope the kid gets it and bounces back. You have to remove all people, places and things that bring you to or near marijuana. Complete lifestyle and friend change. Not easy but a must.

Prayers sent. This isn't smart on his part, no, but addiction comes in many forms and all are hurtful: pornography, gambling, over-eating, couch potato, computer surfing, alcohol, Rx, sex, etc.

They say over 50% of people face an addiction in life that threatens their life and happiness in a major league way - at some point anyway. It isn't unusual and shouldn't be shamed but treated. The NFL doesn't play with marijuana.
Boo that man!  
Vin R : 3/16/2016 5:27 pm : link
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RE: in hindsight  
Mad Mike : 3/16/2016 5:30 pm : link
In comment 12862717 Eric from BBI said:
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I think we can put to rest the debate on whether or not the Giants made the right decision.

Never!
RE: in hindsight  
Carson53 : 3/16/2016 5:31 pm : link
In comment 12862717 Eric from BBI said:
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I think we can put to rest the debate on whether or not the Giants made the right decision.


The Giants made the right decision, they gave him 3 chances
to get his act together. This news comes as no surprise to me.
Heck, in this league, you even KNOW when they are going to
test you too. I saw Cromartie talking about it last year
on BSPN. How easy can they make it for those who like weed
in the NFL, geez!
rehab!  
spike : 3/16/2016 5:31 pm : link
#Sour
sorry to see  
MetsAreBack : 3/16/2016 5:34 pm : link
his career is likely over now.

But i still dont understand why marijuana is treated like a PED violation. Makes no fucking sense, not even a little.
RE: Is he still under contract with the Ravens?  
Carson53 : 3/16/2016 5:35 pm : link
In comment 12862711 Mark C said:
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(If so, probably not for long.)


He was cut today, was a 4.6 mill. cap hit too.
So they said sayonarra.
PLEASE,  
Big Blue '56 : 3/16/2016 5:36 pm : link
Those of you who thought we made a HUGE mistake in cutting him, come on here and tell us yet again, why?

RE: in hindsight  
Chris in Philly : 3/16/2016 5:37 pm : link
In comment 12862717 Eric from BBI said:
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I think we can put to rest the debate on whether or not the Giants made the right decision.


Man, people are never going to admit they were wrong on this one...
Weren't there some yo-yos who were actually  
Mr. Bungle : 3/16/2016 5:37 pm : link
questioning their support of the Giants going forward based on Hill's release?

Thank God this has finally been settled.
I wanted him back - thought he got his act together  
glowrider : 3/16/2016 5:39 pm : link
Guess not. Weren't there rumblings the Ravens knew this was coming?
That's one thick head right there.  
short lease : 3/16/2016 5:40 pm : link
Well, I'm sure he has some kind of spokesman's job or a CEO position that is going to pay him multi-millions every year. Why else would he be so reckless driving the gravy train that he was on?

Next stop the Raiders or Dallas?
it's too bad the NFL is so backward. Medical Marijuana is  
gtt350 : 3/16/2016 5:40 pm : link
tailor made for NFL players instead of painkillers etc
RE: I wanted him back - thought he got his act together  
short lease : 3/16/2016 5:42 pm : link
In comment 12862746 glowrider said:
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Guess not. Weren't there rumblings the Ravens knew this was coming?


Most people new it was coming the day he signed a contract with them.
Where are all the Hill Fanboys now?  
B in ALB : 3/16/2016 5:42 pm : link
Telling us he's so great and violating drug policy is no big deal?

Whatcha saying now? Nothing.
Just putting it out there...  
trueblueinpw : 3/16/2016 5:43 pm : link
He'd be ready in time for our run into the playoffs.


Shocker!  
steve in ky : 3/16/2016 5:45 pm : link
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RE: Where are all the Hill Fanboys now?  
David in LA : 3/16/2016 5:46 pm : link
In comment 12862751 B in ALB said:
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Telling us he's so great and violating drug policy is no big deal?

Whatcha saying now? Nothing.


I do think the rule is extremely outdated. After reading about how many pills these guys are taking to deal with pain from Kyle Turley, the NFL should really look into overturning the pot policy. Will Hill's a dumbass though.
Day what you want  
Bleedin Blue : 3/16/2016 5:50 pm : link
about how backward the NFL is in regards to marijuana, but if someone said to me "we'll pay you $4.6 million, but you can't smoke marijuana " I'd do it in a heartbeat! WTF is wrong with people, you want a job, and one of the caveats was to refrain from smoking, well I'd do it. If you work for a company in Colorado or Washington and they have a policy against using marijuana then stop or get another fucking job! The guy was an ASSHOLE who got multiple chances, and he blew it! That's why the Giants organization were right in kicking him to the curb!

That's my rant for the day!
FINALLY!  
LeonofKiev : 3/16/2016 5:50 pm : link
All the Will Hill apologists will never be seen again, happy day!
^^^^SAY^^^^^  
Bleedin Blue : 3/16/2016 5:50 pm : link
Not Day
But after the suspension we should totally sign him long term  
Patrick77 : 3/16/2016 5:51 pm : link
I'm sure he has changed and will learn from this...

lol
So should we bring him back???  
montanagiant : 3/16/2016 5:52 pm : link



I kid...I kid
I don't know what was  
LeonofKiev : 3/16/2016 5:55 pm : link
more annoying to listen to every year......

"I have a feeling Randle is going to break out this year"
or
"How could we let Will Hill go? He'll learned from his mistakes"
It doesn't matter if the substance is legal  
short lease : 3/16/2016 5:55 pm : link
or illegal - it is the RULES!

Adderall is legal and guys have gotten suspended for it.

My/our personal believe of whether marijuana should or shouldn't be legal - has to be put aside.

It's a rule and he broke multiple times - good-bye Will.

He should grow dread locks and convert to Rastafarian - then maybe he can claim a Religious excuse. Other than that he has no chance. He broke the rules again. Stupid rules or not.
RE: Day what you want  
Peter in Atl : 3/16/2016 6:04 pm : link
In comment 12862760 Bleedin Blue said:
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about how backward the NFL is in regards to marijuana, but if someone said to me "we'll pay you $4.6 million, but you can't smoke marijuana " I'd do it in a heartbeat! WTF is wrong with people, you want a job, and one of the caveats was to refrain from smoking, well I'd do it. If you work for a company in Colorado or Washington and they have a policy against using marijuana then stop or get another fucking job! The guy was an ASSHOLE who got multiple chances, and he blew it! That's why the Giants organization were right in kicking him to the curb!

That's my rant for the day!


I'm paid a whole lot less than that and I'm not allowed to smoke. Therefore, I don't.
F  
Neckbone1333 : 3/16/2016 6:07 pm : link
Him
I'd love to see those threads where people were killing  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 3/16/2016 6:08 pm : link
the Giants for releasing him after his 40448484th f*ck up.
RE: RE: Day what you want  
Bleedin Blue : 3/16/2016 6:09 pm : link
In comment 12862779 Peter in Atl said:
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In comment 12862760 Bleedin Blue said:


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about how backward the NFL is in regards to marijuana, but if someone said to me "we'll pay you $4.6 million, but you can't smoke marijuana " I'd do it in a heartbeat! WTF is wrong with people, you want a job, and one of the caveats was to refrain from smoking, well I'd do it. If you work for a company in Colorado or Washington and they have a policy against using marijuana then stop or get another fucking job! The guy was an ASSHOLE who got multiple chances, and he blew it! That's why the Giants organization were right in kicking him to the curb!

That's my rant for the day!



I'm paid a whole lot less than that and I'm not allowed to smoke. Therefore, I don't.


And Peter, that's my point!! There are rules, if you can't follow them, well start practicing Would you like to supersize that meal??
Those who think that this is a just policy are simply reactionaries  
SB 42 and 46 and ? : 3/16/2016 6:11 pm : link
who can't adjust to the fact that we've moved on from the sixties view of marijuana as a dangerous drug in the same class, although a little less potent, than cocaine and heroin.

Not being to give up marijuana is an "addiction" no more serious as not being able to give up cigarettes due to the "addiction" to nicotine, even after the smoker knows that the cigarettes are killing him.

As a recreational drug, marijuana is far less toxic than alcohol. It's far less dangerous to smoke and drive than to drink and drive.

The reactionaries may have today to celebrate, but ten to fifteen years down the road, when marijuana is legal in a majority of states, people will look back at those who supported a person being thrown out of football for doing the weed in the same way that we now look at the people who made the film "Reefer Madness."
RE: Those who think that this is a just policy are simply reactionaries  
Chris in Philly : 3/16/2016 6:12 pm : link
In comment 12862785 SB 42 and 46 and ? said:
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who can't adjust to the fact that we've moved on from the sixties view of marijuana as a dangerous drug in the same class, although a little less potent, than cocaine and heroin.

Not being to give up marijuana is an "addiction" no more serious as not being able to give up cigarettes due to the "addiction" to nicotine, even after the smoker knows that the cigarettes are killing him.

As a recreational drug, marijuana is far less toxic than alcohol. It's far less dangerous to smoke and drive than to drink and drive.

The reactionaries may have today to celebrate, but ten to fifteen years down the road, when marijuana is legal in a majority of states, people will look back at those who supported a person being thrown out of football for doing the weed in the same way that we now look at the people who made the film "Reefer Madness."


You have managed to miss most of the points of this thread...
You would think  
Rob in CT/NYC : 3/16/2016 6:12 pm : link
you would have to go back to the archives to find out who the Will Hill idiots were, but there were people telling us how big a mistake the Giants made in letting him go, and how we should look at him if the Ravens released him.

Reese' Pieces comes to mind...

Can't wait for Mike in Long Beach's hot take on this one...
I'm shocked, I'm absolutely shocked  
Mason : 3/16/2016 6:13 pm : link
I mean this just came out of the nowhere. SMH.

How many people not only were trying to defend him for not only being a pothead but also trying to defend how he destroyed that woman's home that he rented in NJ? Leaving piles of dog shit all over the house. As I stated the day he was signed by the Giants, knuckleheads don't change they just change enablers.
RE: Those who think that this is a just policy are simply reactionaries  
Rob in CT/NYC : 3/16/2016 6:14 pm : link
In comment 12862785 SB 42 and 46 and ? said:
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who can't adjust to the fact that we've moved on from the sixties view of marijuana as a dangerous drug in the same class, although a little less potent, than cocaine and heroin.

Not being to give up marijuana is an "addiction" no more serious as not being able to give up cigarettes due to the "addiction" to nicotine, even after the smoker knows that the cigarettes are killing him.

As a recreational drug, marijuana is far less toxic than alcohol. It's far less dangerous to smoke and drive than to drink and drive.

The reactionaries may have today to celebrate, but ten to fifteen years down the road, when marijuana is legal in a majority of states, people will look back at those who supported a person being thrown out of football for doing the weed in the same way that we now look at the people who made the film "Reefer Madness."


That whistling sound you heard was the point sailing over your head...
well said SB 42  
Greenpoint : 3/16/2016 6:17 pm : link
I hate situations like these - everyone knows its bullshit and everyone's smoking but a few guys take the fall.
that said, will hill isn't exactly a hippie sitting on his couch smoking weed. his issues go a little bit deeper and i'm sure others know what I'm talking about
RE: You would think  
speedywheels : 3/16/2016 6:17 pm : link
In comment 12862788 Rob in CT/NYC said:
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you would have to go back to the archives to find out who the Will Hill idiots were, but there were people telling us how big a mistake the Giants made in letting him go, and how we should look at him if the Ravens released him.

Reese' Pieces comes to mind...

Can't wait for Mike in Long Beach's hot take on this one...


YOu don't have to go to the archives to find some of them, just this thread from a few days ago.


linky - ( New Window )
RE: Those who think that this is a just policy are simply reactionaries  
Peter in Atl : 3/16/2016 6:18 pm : link
In comment 12862785 SB 42 and 46 and ? said:
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who can't adjust to the fact that we've moved on from the sixties view of marijuana as a dangerous drug in the same class, although a little less potent, than cocaine and heroin.

Not being to give up marijuana is an "addiction" no more serious as not being able to give up cigarettes due to the "addiction" to nicotine, even after the smoker knows that the cigarettes are killing him.

As a recreational drug, marijuana is far less toxic than alcohol. It's far less dangerous to smoke and drive than to drink and drive.

The reactionaries may have today to celebrate, but ten to fifteen years down the road, when marijuana is legal in a majority of states, people will look back at those who supported a person being thrown out of football for doing the weed in the same way that we now look at the people who made the film "Reefer Madness."


We don't have to wait to look at the people who just don't get it.
RE: RE: Where are all the Hill Fanboys now?  
B in ALB : 3/16/2016 6:19 pm : link
In comment 12862756 David in LA said:
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In comment 12862751 B in ALB said:


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Telling us he's so great and violating drug policy is no big deal?

Whatcha saying now? Nothing.



I do think the rule is extremely outdated. After reading about how many pills these guys are taking to deal with pain from Kyle Turley, the NFL should really look into overturning the pot policy. Will Hill's a dumbass though.



I.agree David. But the policy is in place NOW and it has to be followed or you get got.
Where do some of you work that you cant understand why  
Curtis in VA : 3/16/2016 6:21 pm : link
the NFL would not allow marijuana? Any type of job that requires a piss test will fire you for smoking pot. Its not an uncommon thing.

Kick the  
rebel yell : 3/16/2016 6:24 pm : link
tires? Sorry, had to say it. This guy is a loser. So happy we cut our losses early. All the whiners about it please STFU now.
RE: Where do some of you work that you cant understand why  
MetsAreBack : 3/16/2016 6:26 pm : link
In comment 12862805 Curtis in VA said:
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the NFL would not allow marijuana? Any type of job that requires a piss test will fire you for smoking pot. Its not an uncommon thing.



How many jobs out there require routine piss tests?
RE: Where do some of you work that you cant understand why  
David in LA : 3/16/2016 6:33 pm : link
In comment 12862805 Curtis in VA said:
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the NFL would not allow marijuana? Any type of job that requires a piss test will fire you for smoking pot. Its not an uncommon thing.


Curtis, if I'm not mistaken, you pretty much know when that piss test is coming. You have to be a colossal fuckup to fail. I get that the rule is a rule, if you fail, you face the consequences.
The problem with pot being the problem for a player is that  
glowrider : 3/16/2016 6:38 pm : link
it takes SO MANY failures to get to where he is right now. PEDs, different story - you don't go into the substance abuse program and get multiple shots at cleaning up.

He must have failed at least 5 or 6 tests to be eligible for a 10-gamer, no?
RE: lel.  
dg901 : 3/16/2016 6:40 pm : link
In comment 12862704 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Welp, so much for kicking the tires.

Released earlier today.
This is not a  
Jay on the Island : 3/16/2016 6:47 pm : link
debate on your stance on the marijuana debate. This is a sad incident where a young man simply can't avoid smoking weed when he knows his job and career are on the line. He now has 4 strikes against him and it is evident that he has a real problem and will never stop smoking.
I've been surprised by his difficulty because people I've spoken to  
Ira : 3/16/2016 6:51 pm : link
who have engaged in this indulgence have told me it's not in the least bit addicting physically the way cigarettes and alcohol and other drugs are. And that's my run-on sentence for today.
A few thoughts  
Matt M. : 3/16/2016 6:52 pm : link
1) This policy has no comparison to the pills taken for pain, as one poster mentioned. This is part of a substance abuse policy. For the most part, pain medication is taken under the guidance and supervision of team physicians or as prescribed by personal physicians.

2) Even prescribed substances can be legal, but violate the substance abuse policy (i.e. adderall)

3) The legality, in general, is irrelevant. As with any employer, the NFL determined a set of rules by which its employees must abide. This is no different than any company that chooses to test its employees for drugs and include marijuana as a forbidden substance they test for. That is perfectly OK.

4) Why anyone still feels sorry for Hill is beyond me. First of all, he has well more than the requisite 2 or 3 chances we tend to give our athletes. All he has shown is that he hasn't learned a thing and can't control himself. I hope he gets help just so there is one less person addicted on the street. But, I don't care if he ever plays another down again. That is also derived from the fact that besides having no self-control, he has also proven himself to really be a shitty human being.
Evil weed!  
Stan in LA : 3/16/2016 6:54 pm : link
Give me a break...
I'm One of Those  
Samiam : 3/16/2016 6:57 pm : link
I had thought that cutting Will Hill was Reese's single worst mistake and given the state of the safeties as recently as now, would have said so. Believed that watching every Giants game last year watching Merriweather, Dahl, etc. That said, and I know it doesn't change anything, how the hell are they still testing for marijuana use in this day and age?
I lost a good young sales manager because he tested positive  
The Natural : 3/16/2016 7:04 pm : link
The truth is that he lost a whole more. He had a bright future...he could have worked for me as long as he wanted. He had a 150k/year job, with a new demo. A young family with twin boys.

Was it worth it??
people forget this too  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/16/2016 7:11 pm : link
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NEW JERSEY (PIX11) — For more than three months now, I’ve been trying to find troubled Giants football star Will Hill.

Now, it looks like he’ll successfully duck me because the Giants cut him a couple of days ago. They’d had enough. Hill had been suspended three times for violating the NFL’s drug policy.

I was trying to find him on behalf of Jameelah Wiliams of West Orange. That happens to be where Will Hill grew up.

Jameelah rented him a beautiful home there. To say he trashed it is an understatement.

“I’m really disgusted with him. This is such a beautiful house,“ Jameelah told me back in February. “My grandparents lived here for so long. We just have so many great memories. And we really just wanted to keep the house in our family. But he destroyed it.”

Jameelah says everything in the house was new before Hill moved in. But she says the former Giants defensive back made a dogs breakfast out of her family’s property. Indoor paintball games on the new hardwood floors. Maggot infestations, holes in the walls, dog feces from his four pit bulls and dirty bathtubs.

“The grand total including loss of income from the months we couldn’t rent it was about $15,000.”

Jameelah says she agreed with one of Will Hill’s financial advisers to settle for just $2,500. Better to get something than nothing, she thought. But they didn’t even follow through on that. And when I went to their offices, they were no help and asked us to leave.

Hill’s agents likewise offered no help.

When I went to Giants Stadium on the first day of drills last week, Hill apparently had already split. Then a few days later, the Giants got rid of Mr. Trouble.

So where does that leave Jameelah? Out all that money, although she thinks karma is catching up to Will Hill.

That karma has him now with the Arizona Rattlers of the Arena Football League, at least while he sits out his latest NFL suspension.

Me? I’m just disgusted with him and all his enablers. At least the Giants aren’t playing his game anymore.

Former Giants star Will Hill trashes NJ rental home, refuses to pay up - ( New Window )
Pot should be legal across the US.  
Randy in CT : 3/16/2016 7:17 pm : link
And yet Will Hill is in fact an idiot for understanding and then ignoring the rules in the NFL. If you can't see that, please stop discussing the topic?
RE: RE: Where do some of you work that you cant understand why  
Curtis in VA : 3/16/2016 7:25 pm : link
In comment 12862810 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 12862805 Curtis in VA said:


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the NFL would not allow marijuana? Any type of job that requires a piss test will fire you for smoking pot. Its not an uncommon thing.





How many jobs out there require routine piss tests?


A lot. Ever worked for the government in any capacity? Random drug tests all the time. Bottom line is that its against the rules and you know it when you take the job. If you cant handle it then find another job.
Will Hill...caught taking drugs again??  
Jimmy Googs : 3/16/2016 7:34 pm : link
A man becomes preeminent, he's expect to have enthusiasms  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2016 8:06 pm : link
.....enthusiasms.....enthusiasms
What are Will Hill's? What draws his admiration? What is that which brings him joy?

I agree that like alcohol pot should be legal  
Big Blue '56 : 3/16/2016 8:07 pm : link
everywhere. Not tge point. Was never the point.. Do people STILL not understand WHY we let WH go? Why the Ravens let him go?
Forget the debate about whether marijuana.....  
Reb8thVA : 3/16/2016 8:21 pm : link
Should be legal or not. The fact he couldn't follow a simple rule demonstrates he is undisciplined, selfish, and irresponsible, all the traits you are looking for in a football player.
I forgot another word....  
Reb8thVA : 3/16/2016 8:22 pm : link
Unreliable. You can't count on him
RE: This is very sad  
Upstate_Giants_fan : 3/16/2016 8:48 pm : link
In comment 12862718 SGMen said:
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I understand addiction, I get it. I'm guessing this is marijuana again. It is sad to see this young guy can't kick the addiction bug.

They say over 50% of people face an addiction in life that threatens their life and happiness in a major league way - at some point anyway. It isn't unusual and shouldn't be shamed but treated. The NFL doesn't play with marijuana.

50%? Who is saying that? Seems awfully high. Do you have a source/link for that?
Is it simply an assumption that it is pot  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 3/16/2016 9:01 pm : link
As opposed to another banned substance? Do we know it's not more? Either way, the guy is a complete idiot. He knows he fails a test he is getting a long ban and probably losing his job. And yet....
Given  
Bernie : 3/16/2016 9:05 pm : link
his track record, you would think it would have been an entire year. Another immature athlete who never took responsibility for his life.
And, as you'll recall  
Big Blue '56 : 3/16/2016 9:10 pm : link
the Racens extended him last year
Ravens  
Big Blue '56 : 3/16/2016 9:11 pm : link
.
Hill  
stretch234 : 3/16/2016 9:11 pm : link
How people justify this because it is weed baffle me.

He was give a chance to play in the NFL after he almost smoked it away.

While with the team who backed him, he lied to the owner of the team, who signs his check, and smoked it away.

He was given his 15th chance with the gift of the Ravens and he smoked that away.

Here is 1 of the rules of your employment, which well compensates you - do not smoke weed because it is illegal

He is a guy who refuses to obey simple rules for employment - enough
Kick the  
Section331 : 3/16/2016 9:33 pm : link
bong?
I generally dont use abusive language....  
BillKo : 3/16/2016 9:43 pm : link
but what a fucking loser.

For everyone who thought the Giants should have kept him  
EricJ : 3/16/2016 10:01 pm : link
put that in your pipe and smoke it!

For those of you who keep making excuses for him saying that he has an addiction to weed.... the other half of BB says weed is not an addictive drug and should be legal.

How does he do it?  
old man : 3/16/2016 10:01 pm : link
Isn't this his 6-7th violation? I guess he keeps fouling instead of missing, so 3 strikes and out can't be invoked.
I'm surprised that after all this time  
Bill L : 3/16/2016 10:02 pm : link
There are people here who don't see that this has nothing to do with pot, whether some, many, or all people in the world smoke it, whether or not it should be legal or anythng at all other than who Will Hill is.
on a side note...  
EricJ : 3/16/2016 10:05 pm : link
i personally do not think that weed is addictive. I DO think it just makes you fucking stupid (sorry to offend the BBI pot smokers).

You have so many companies that test for drugs. People are risking their average paying jobs because they want to get high. If these high paid athletes are willing to risk million dollar dream jobs for bong hits, then you know that the guy working an office job somewhere will do it.
I feel sorry for this guy  
UConn4523 : 3/16/2016 10:13 pm : link
but the writing was on the wall. People that don't understand why we cut him just don't know the team the root for, or even how teams in general operate.
RE: I feel sorry for this guy  
EricJ : 3/16/2016 10:31 pm : link
In comment 12863044 UConn4523 said:
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but the writing was on the wall. People that don't understand why we cut him just don't know the team the root for, or even how teams in general operate.


I don't feel sorry for him at all. You feel sorry for someone whose career was taken away by an injury or an accident. This was a bad decision that he made MULTIPLE TIMES. He knew he could lose his NFL career over this and STILL CHOSE to roll the dice anyway.

Thousands of kids would be willing to give anything for the chance that Will Hill threw away. Fuck him.
Not sure why you are so angry  
UConn4523 : 3/16/2016 10:51 pm : link
I can think he's an idiot and also feel sorry for him. He didn't do anything to me personally and as far as I know he's not beating women or endangering society. He's just a moron and it's a shame he's wasted his chance to live a great life.
RE: This is very sad  
DCOrange : 3/16/2016 11:30 pm : link
In comment 12862718 SGMen said:
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I understand addiction, I get it. I'm guessing this is marijuana again. It is sad to see this young guy can't kick the addiction bug.

I know folks that smoke just about daily. I know folks who have lost union jobs (suspended really....) due to pot and can't get their job back cause they can't "quit" long enough.

I thought that pot wasn't addicting.

I hope the kid gets it and bounces back. You have to remove all people, places and things that bring you to or near marijuana. Complete lifestyle and friend change. Not easy but a must.

Prayers sent. This isn't smart on his part, no, but addiction comes in many forms and all are hurtful: pornography, gambling, over-eating, couch potato, computer surfing, alcohol, Rx, sex, etc.

They say over 50% of people face an addiction in life that threatens their life and happiness in a major league way - at some point anyway. It isn't unusual and shouldn't be shamed but treated. The NFL doesn't play with marijuana.
Goddammit...  
j_rud : 3/16/2016 11:43 pm : link
We just lost a quick IQ test...
RE: people forget this too  
Matt M. : 3/17/2016 12:23 am : link
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NEW JERSEY (PIX11) — For more than three months now, I’ve been trying to find troubled Giants football star Will Hill.

Now, it looks like he’ll successfully duck me because the Giants cut him a couple of days ago. They’d had enough. Hill had been suspended three times for violating the NFL’s drug policy.

I was trying to find him on behalf of Jameelah Wiliams of West Orange. That happens to be where Will Hill grew up.

Jameelah rented him a beautiful home there. To say he trashed it is an understatement.

“I’m really disgusted with him. This is such a beautiful house,“ Jameelah told me back in February. “My grandparents lived here for so long. We just have so many great memories. And we really just wanted to keep the house in our family. But he destroyed it.”

Jameelah says everything in the house was new before Hill moved in. But she says the former Giants defensive back made a dogs breakfast out of her family’s property. Indoor paintball games on the new hardwood floors. Maggot infestations, holes in the walls, dog feces from his four pit bulls and dirty bathtubs.

“The grand total including loss of income from the months we couldn’t rent it was about $15,000.”

Jameelah says she agreed with one of Will Hill’s financial advisers to settle for just $2,500. Better to get something than nothing, she thought. But they didn’t even follow through on that. And when I went to their offices, they were no help and asked us to leave.

Hill’s agents likewise offered no help.

When I went to Giants Stadium on the first day of drills last week, Hill apparently had already split. Then a few days later, the Giants got rid of Mr. Trouble.

So where does that leave Jameelah? Out all that money, although she thinks karma is catching up to Will Hill.

That karma has him now with the Arizona Rattlers of the Arena Football League, at least while he sits out his latest NFL suspension.

Me? I’m just disgusted with him and all his enablers. At least the Giants aren’t playing his game anymore.

Former Giants star Will Hill trashes NJ rental home, refuses to pay up - ( New Window )
This story is one of the reasons I called him a shitty human being. There are others.
how come he only gets suspended 10 games  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/17/2016 12:32 am : link
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RE: how come he only gets suspended 10 games  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/17/2016 12:34 am : link
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Number of failed tests. The next one, I think, is a full year. Then indefinite.
RE: RE: how come he only gets suspended 10 games  
Jimmy Googs : 3/17/2016 3:35 am : link
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Number of failed tests. The next one, I think, is a full year. Then indefinite.


So that should take about, oh say....10 months to occur.

A talented player that is throwing it all away. See you at the Taco Bell drive thru window, my man...
I thought no news was good news  
Glover : 3/17/2016 4:19 am : link
on Will Hill, but now this news.
RE: What an idiot.  
The 12th Man : 3/17/2016 6:31 am : link
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He could have smoked himself silly for sixty years after retiring from football, but couldn't stay clean for the short term.


Until you know what he was suspended for this to me is a jackass comment. I am rooting for the kids life. I am hoping that he was not smoking that he is able to control that. Here is hope that is was a drug that they deemed to be performance enhancing and not one that could screw up his recovery.
If it's not addictive -  
grizz299 : 3/17/2016 6:47 am : link
as its proponents claim - then he's made a conscious choice that we should respect.
He's effectively said: The experience of getting high is worth more than the millions he could be making through abstinence"
That's a value judgement. And who is to say he's wrong? We should respect his call, stop trying to impose our values on him and all move on.
The folks I feel sorry for are the Moronic cretins who subscribe to the theory that someday it will be legal so what the league is doing now is reactionary. That has nothing to do with it. Nothing and I'm not going to waste words telling them why. Explaining the self evident is more difficult than explaining the obtuse.
On the trashed house  
BIG FRED 1973 : 3/17/2016 8:17 am : link
story from 2014 this part always made me laugh .. Maggot infestations ... What did he have dead bodies buried there ??? What a slob
RE: it's too bad the NFL is so backward. Medical Marijuana is  
njm : 3/17/2016 8:35 am : link
In comment 12862749 gtt350 said:
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tailor made for NFL players instead of painkillers etc


I never realized that the NFL had legislative powers.

Oh, and fire Reese!
Really funny to see people do mental gymnastics even now  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/17/2016 9:52 am : link
to only grudgingly accept that there's a problem here.

Just can't admit the team made the right decision at the time.
RE: RE: it's too bad the NFL is so backward. Medical Marijuana is  
Bill L : 3/17/2016 9:54 am : link
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tailor made for NFL players instead of painkillers etc



I never realized that the NFL had legislative powers.

Oh, and fire Reese!
For some teams in some states, it could be a huge FA draw. No cap room but it's legal here.
RE: RE: What an idiot.  
jcn56 : 3/17/2016 9:55 am : link
In comment 12863228 The 12th Man said:
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He could have smoked himself silly for sixty years after retiring from football, but couldn't stay clean for the short term.



Until you know what he was suspended for this to me is a jackass comment. I am rooting for the kids life. I am hoping that he was not smoking that he is able to control that. Here is hope that is was a drug that they deemed to be performance enhancing and not one that could screw up his recovery.


You might want to find a case a little more worthy of rooting for - this isn't just a good kid with a MJ problem, it's a guy who's been arrested for failing to make child support payments, a guy who ransacked his landlord's apartment, agreed to make restitution of only about a tenth of the damage and back rent he owed, and failed to pay even that.

This isn't just a guy with a drug problem - he's a raging asshole with a drug problem.
RE: On the trashed house  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2016 9:55 am : link
In comment 12863270 BIG FRED 1973 said:
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story from 2014 this part always made me laugh .. Maggot infestations ... What did he have dead bodies buried there ??? What a slob


Probably from rotting food that he never threw away
sign him reece.  
BrettNYG10 : 3/17/2016 10:00 am : link
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when a player knows the rules and yet continues  
Jersey55 : 3/17/2016 10:04 am : link
to break those rules he deserves whatever he gets, it doesn't matter whether pot is addictive or not....
Still waiting for Mike in Long Beach  
Rob in CT/NYC : 3/17/2016 10:18 am : link
and Reese's Pieces to provide insight on this topic.
RE: Still waiting for Mike in Long Beach  
B in ALB : 3/17/2016 11:16 am : link
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and Reese's Pieces to provide insight on this topic.


The next time those two stains provide insight on anything will be the first.
I'm still laughing at the memories  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2016 11:22 am : link
Most predictable thing in the world.
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