not a surprise, a lot of BBIers were expecting news like this to come out.
Adam Schefter on Twitter: "Ravens' S Will Hill has been suspended 10 games for violating NFL's substance abuse policy, league sources @caplannfl and me."
I understand addiction, I get it. I'm guessing this is marijuana again. It is sad to see this young guy can't kick the addiction bug.
I know folks that smoke just about daily. I know folks who have lost union jobs (suspended really....) due to pot and can't get their job back cause they can't "quit" long enough.
I hope the kid gets it and bounces back. You have to remove all people, places and things that bring you to or near marijuana. Complete lifestyle and friend change. Not easy but a must.
Prayers sent. This isn't smart on his part, no, but addiction comes in many forms and all are hurtful: pornography, gambling, over-eating, couch potato, computer surfing, alcohol, Rx, sex, etc.
They say over 50% of people face an addiction in life that threatens their life and happiness in a major league way - at some point anyway. It isn't unusual and shouldn't be shamed but treated. The NFL doesn't play with marijuana.
I think we can put to rest the debate on whether or not the Giants made the right decision.
The Giants made the right decision, they gave him 3 chances
to get his act together. This news comes as no surprise to me.
Heck, in this league, you even KNOW when they are going to
test you too. I saw Cromartie talking about it last year
on BSPN. How easy can they make it for those who like weed
in the NFL, geez!
Well, I'm sure he has some kind of spokesman's job or a CEO position that is going to pay him multi-millions every year. Why else would he be so reckless driving the gravy train that he was on?
Next stop the Raiders or Dallas?
it's too bad the NFL is so backward. Medical Marijuana is
Telling us he's so great and violating drug policy is no big deal?
Whatcha saying now? Nothing.
I do think the rule is extremely outdated. After reading about how many pills these guys are taking to deal with pain from Kyle Turley, the NFL should really look into overturning the pot policy. Will Hill's a dumbass though.
about how backward the NFL is in regards to marijuana, but if someone said to me "we'll pay you $4.6 million, but you can't smoke marijuana " I'd do it in a heartbeat! WTF is wrong with people, you want a job, and one of the caveats was to refrain from smoking, well I'd do it. If you work for a company in Colorado or Washington and they have a policy against using marijuana then stop or get another fucking job! The guy was an ASSHOLE who got multiple chances, and he blew it! That's why the Giants organization were right in kicking him to the curb!
Adderall is legal and guys have gotten suspended for it.
My/our personal believe of whether marijuana should or shouldn't be legal - has to be put aside.
It's a rule and he broke multiple times - good-bye Will.
He should grow dread locks and convert to Rastafarian - then maybe he can claim a Religious excuse. Other than that he has no chance. He broke the rules again. Stupid rules or not.
about how backward the NFL is in regards to marijuana, but if someone said to me "we'll pay you $4.6 million, but you can't smoke marijuana " I'd do it in a heartbeat! WTF is wrong with people, you want a job, and one of the caveats was to refrain from smoking, well I'd do it. If you work for a company in Colorado or Washington and they have a policy against using marijuana then stop or get another fucking job! The guy was an ASSHOLE who got multiple chances, and he blew it! That's why the Giants organization were right in kicking him to the curb!
That's my rant for the day!
I'm paid a whole lot less than that and I'm not allowed to smoke. Therefore, I don't.
about how backward the NFL is in regards to marijuana, but if someone said to me "we'll pay you $4.6 million, but you can't smoke marijuana " I'd do it in a heartbeat! WTF is wrong with people, you want a job, and one of the caveats was to refrain from smoking, well I'd do it. If you work for a company in Colorado or Washington and they have a policy against using marijuana then stop or get another fucking job! The guy was an ASSHOLE who got multiple chances, and he blew it! That's why the Giants organization were right in kicking him to the curb!
That's my rant for the day!
I'm paid a whole lot less than that and I'm not allowed to smoke. Therefore, I don't.
And Peter, that's my point!! There are rules, if you can't follow them, well start practicing Would you like to supersize that meal??
Those who think that this is a just policy are simply reactionaries
who can't adjust to the fact that we've moved on from the sixties view of marijuana as a dangerous drug in the same class, although a little less potent, than cocaine and heroin.
Not being to give up marijuana is an "addiction" no more serious as not being able to give up cigarettes due to the "addiction" to nicotine, even after the smoker knows that the cigarettes are killing him.
As a recreational drug, marijuana is far less toxic than alcohol. It's far less dangerous to smoke and drive than to drink and drive.
The reactionaries may have today to celebrate, but ten to fifteen years down the road, when marijuana is legal in a majority of states, people will look back at those who supported a person being thrown out of football for doing the weed in the same way that we now look at the people who made the film "Reefer Madness."
RE: Those who think that this is a just policy are simply reactionaries
who can't adjust to the fact that we've moved on from the sixties view of marijuana as a dangerous drug in the same class, although a little less potent, than cocaine and heroin.
Not being to give up marijuana is an "addiction" no more serious as not being able to give up cigarettes due to the "addiction" to nicotine, even after the smoker knows that the cigarettes are killing him.
As a recreational drug, marijuana is far less toxic than alcohol. It's far less dangerous to smoke and drive than to drink and drive.
The reactionaries may have today to celebrate, but ten to fifteen years down the road, when marijuana is legal in a majority of states, people will look back at those who supported a person being thrown out of football for doing the weed in the same way that we now look at the people who made the film "Reefer Madness."
You have managed to miss most of the points of this thread...
you would have to go back to the archives to find out who the Will Hill idiots were, but there were people telling us how big a mistake the Giants made in letting him go, and how we should look at him if the Ravens released him.
Reese' Pieces comes to mind...
Can't wait for Mike in Long Beach's hot take on this one...
How many people not only were trying to defend him for not only being a pothead but also trying to defend how he destroyed that woman's home that he rented in NJ? Leaving piles of dog shit all over the house. As I stated the day he was signed by the Giants, knuckleheads don't change they just change enablers.
RE: Those who think that this is a just policy are simply reactionaries
who can't adjust to the fact that we've moved on from the sixties view of marijuana as a dangerous drug in the same class, although a little less potent, than cocaine and heroin.
Not being to give up marijuana is an "addiction" no more serious as not being able to give up cigarettes due to the "addiction" to nicotine, even after the smoker knows that the cigarettes are killing him.
As a recreational drug, marijuana is far less toxic than alcohol. It's far less dangerous to smoke and drive than to drink and drive.
The reactionaries may have today to celebrate, but ten to fifteen years down the road, when marijuana is legal in a majority of states, people will look back at those who supported a person being thrown out of football for doing the weed in the same way that we now look at the people who made the film "Reefer Madness."
That whistling sound you heard was the point sailing over your head...
I hate situations like these - everyone knows its bullshit and everyone's smoking but a few guys take the fall.
that said, will hill isn't exactly a hippie sitting on his couch smoking weed. his issues go a little bit deeper and i'm sure others know what I'm talking about
you would have to go back to the archives to find out who the Will Hill idiots were, but there were people telling us how big a mistake the Giants made in letting him go, and how we should look at him if the Ravens released him.
Reese' Pieces comes to mind...
Can't wait for Mike in Long Beach's hot take on this one...
YOu don't have to go to the archives to find some of them, just this thread from a few days ago.
who can't adjust to the fact that we've moved on from the sixties view of marijuana as a dangerous drug in the same class, although a little less potent, than cocaine and heroin.
Not being to give up marijuana is an "addiction" no more serious as not being able to give up cigarettes due to the "addiction" to nicotine, even after the smoker knows that the cigarettes are killing him.
As a recreational drug, marijuana is far less toxic than alcohol. It's far less dangerous to smoke and drive than to drink and drive.
The reactionaries may have today to celebrate, but ten to fifteen years down the road, when marijuana is legal in a majority of states, people will look back at those who supported a person being thrown out of football for doing the weed in the same way that we now look at the people who made the film "Reefer Madness."
We don't have to wait to look at the people who just don't get it.
Telling us he's so great and violating drug policy is no big deal?
Whatcha saying now? Nothing.
I do think the rule is extremely outdated. After reading about how many pills these guys are taking to deal with pain from Kyle Turley, the NFL should really look into overturning the pot policy. Will Hill's a dumbass though.
I.agree David. But the policy is in place NOW and it has to be followed or you get got.
Where do some of you work that you cant understand why
the NFL would not allow marijuana? Any type of job that requires a piss test will fire you for smoking pot. Its not an uncommon thing.
Curtis, if I'm not mistaken, you pretty much know when that piss test is coming. You have to be a colossal fuckup to fail. I get that the rule is a rule, if you fail, you face the consequences.
The problem with pot being the problem for a player is that
it takes SO MANY failures to get to where he is right now. PEDs, different story - you don't go into the substance abuse program and get multiple shots at cleaning up.
He must have failed at least 5 or 6 tests to be eligible for a 10-gamer, no?
debate on your stance on the marijuana debate. This is a sad incident where a young man simply can't avoid smoking weed when he knows his job and career are on the line. He now has 4 strikes against him and it is evident that he has a real problem and will never stop smoking.
I've been surprised by his difficulty because people I've spoken to
who have engaged in this indulgence have told me it's not in the least bit addicting physically the way cigarettes and alcohol and other drugs are. And that's my run-on sentence for today.
I know folks that smoke just about daily. I know folks who have lost union jobs (suspended really....) due to pot and can't get their job back cause they can't "quit" long enough.
I hope the kid gets it and bounces back. You have to remove all people, places and things that bring you to or near marijuana. Complete lifestyle and friend change. Not easy but a must.
Prayers sent. This isn't smart on his part, no, but addiction comes in many forms and all are hurtful: pornography, gambling, over-eating, couch potato, computer surfing, alcohol, Rx, sex, etc.
They say over 50% of people face an addiction in life that threatens their life and happiness in a major league way - at some point anyway. It isn't unusual and shouldn't be shamed but treated. The NFL doesn't play with marijuana.
Never!
The Giants made the right decision, they gave him 3 chances
to get his act together. This news comes as no surprise to me.
Heck, in this league, you even KNOW when they are going to
test you too. I saw Cromartie talking about it last year
on BSPN. How easy can they make it for those who like weed
in the NFL, geez!
But i still dont understand why marijuana is treated like a PED violation. Makes no fucking sense, not even a little.
He was cut today, was a 4.6 mill. cap hit too.
So they said sayonarra.
Man, people are never going to admit they were wrong on this one...
Thank God this has finally been settled.
Next stop the Raiders or Dallas?
Most people new it was coming the day he signed a contract with them.
Whatcha saying now? Nothing.
Whatcha saying now? Nothing.
I do think the rule is extremely outdated. After reading about how many pills these guys are taking to deal with pain from Kyle Turley, the NFL should really look into overturning the pot policy. Will Hill's a dumbass though.
That's my rant for the day!
lol
I kid...I kid
"I have a feeling Randle is going to break out this year"
or
"How could we let Will Hill go? He'll learned from his mistakes"
Adderall is legal and guys have gotten suspended for it.
My/our personal believe of whether marijuana should or shouldn't be legal - has to be put aside.
It's a rule and he broke multiple times - good-bye Will.
He should grow dread locks and convert to Rastafarian - then maybe he can claim a Religious excuse. Other than that he has no chance. He broke the rules again. Stupid rules or not.
That's my rant for the day!
I'm paid a whole lot less than that and I'm not allowed to smoke. Therefore, I don't.
Quote:
about how backward the NFL is in regards to marijuana, but if someone said to me "we'll pay you $4.6 million, but you can't smoke marijuana " I'd do it in a heartbeat! WTF is wrong with people, you want a job, and one of the caveats was to refrain from smoking, well I'd do it. If you work for a company in Colorado or Washington and they have a policy against using marijuana then stop or get another fucking job! The guy was an ASSHOLE who got multiple chances, and he blew it! That's why the Giants organization were right in kicking him to the curb!
That's my rant for the day!
I'm paid a whole lot less than that and I'm not allowed to smoke. Therefore, I don't.
And Peter, that's my point!! There are rules, if you can't follow them, well start practicing Would you like to supersize that meal??
Not being to give up marijuana is an "addiction" no more serious as not being able to give up cigarettes due to the "addiction" to nicotine, even after the smoker knows that the cigarettes are killing him.
As a recreational drug, marijuana is far less toxic than alcohol. It's far less dangerous to smoke and drive than to drink and drive.
The reactionaries may have today to celebrate, but ten to fifteen years down the road, when marijuana is legal in a majority of states, people will look back at those who supported a person being thrown out of football for doing the weed in the same way that we now look at the people who made the film "Reefer Madness."
Not being to give up marijuana is an "addiction" no more serious as not being able to give up cigarettes due to the "addiction" to nicotine, even after the smoker knows that the cigarettes are killing him.
As a recreational drug, marijuana is far less toxic than alcohol. It's far less dangerous to smoke and drive than to drink and drive.
The reactionaries may have today to celebrate, but ten to fifteen years down the road, when marijuana is legal in a majority of states, people will look back at those who supported a person being thrown out of football for doing the weed in the same way that we now look at the people who made the film "Reefer Madness."
You have managed to miss most of the points of this thread...
Reese' Pieces comes to mind...
Can't wait for Mike in Long Beach's hot take on this one...
How many people not only were trying to defend him for not only being a pothead but also trying to defend how he destroyed that woman's home that he rented in NJ? Leaving piles of dog shit all over the house. As I stated the day he was signed by the Giants, knuckleheads don't change they just change enablers.
Not being to give up marijuana is an "addiction" no more serious as not being able to give up cigarettes due to the "addiction" to nicotine, even after the smoker knows that the cigarettes are killing him.
As a recreational drug, marijuana is far less toxic than alcohol. It's far less dangerous to smoke and drive than to drink and drive.
The reactionaries may have today to celebrate, but ten to fifteen years down the road, when marijuana is legal in a majority of states, people will look back at those who supported a person being thrown out of football for doing the weed in the same way that we now look at the people who made the film "Reefer Madness."
That whistling sound you heard was the point sailing over your head...
that said, will hill isn't exactly a hippie sitting on his couch smoking weed. his issues go a little bit deeper and i'm sure others know what I'm talking about
Reese' Pieces comes to mind...
Can't wait for Mike in Long Beach's hot take on this one...
YOu don't have to go to the archives to find some of them, just this thread from a few days ago.
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Not being to give up marijuana is an "addiction" no more serious as not being able to give up cigarettes due to the "addiction" to nicotine, even after the smoker knows that the cigarettes are killing him.
As a recreational drug, marijuana is far less toxic than alcohol. It's far less dangerous to smoke and drive than to drink and drive.
The reactionaries may have today to celebrate, but ten to fifteen years down the road, when marijuana is legal in a majority of states, people will look back at those who supported a person being thrown out of football for doing the weed in the same way that we now look at the people who made the film "Reefer Madness."
We don't have to wait to look at the people who just don't get it.
Quote:
Telling us he's so great and violating drug policy is no big deal?
Whatcha saying now? Nothing.
I do think the rule is extremely outdated. After reading about how many pills these guys are taking to deal with pain from Kyle Turley, the NFL should really look into overturning the pot policy. Will Hill's a dumbass though.
I.agree David. But the policy is in place NOW and it has to be followed or you get got.
How many jobs out there require routine piss tests?
Curtis, if I'm not mistaken, you pretty much know when that piss test is coming. You have to be a colossal fuckup to fail. I get that the rule is a rule, if you fail, you face the consequences.
He must have failed at least 5 or 6 tests to be eligible for a 10-gamer, no?
Released earlier today.