Assuming there won't be a veteran brought in between now and the draft to start along the OL, NYG is going to enter the draft in need of another starter. Thankfully Pugh offers inside/outside versatility, preventing NYG from having to look strictly at OT or strictly at OG. I think we've discussed the OTs more than a fair amount to this point. NYG will like Tunsil and Stanley enough for #10 overall, but I don't think either will be available. Is Conklin worth that spot? An argument can be made. Decker or Spriggs? Possibly but I would lean towards that being too high for both of them.
The focus then needs to shift to the interior prospects. I will likely end up with 2 interior guys in my top 25 overall and one, if not both, will be there with their 2nd rounder. Alabama C Ryan Kelly and Kansas State OG Cody Whitehair.
Kelly is a center, yes. But he has the tools and skills to play guard and I have no doubt about that. He is an oversized center. He has the strength and lateral movement ability. He is a very smart and instinctive blocker. He is one of a few centers I've seen that could make an easy, seamless move to guard. Kelly was an elite blocker the past two years against some stiff competition.
Whitehair played LT for Kansas State. He doesn't have the size to play out there in the NFL although he could be moved there in emergency situations. He is one of my favorite OL in the class. Might finish with a grade right at or under the top spot. Easy footwork guy with the farm boy strength against elite power. He is such a dependable blocker. Always plays with balance Always under control Strong and violent hands.
I think both of these guys are week 1 starters at LG or RG, whichever NYG needs most. They may not be the sexy picks but NYG needs to pump resources in to that OL over and over if they want to be competitive. I have always been and will always be under the notion that it won't ever matter who you have running/passing/catching the ball without productive OL talent. NYG could make the case they really only have 3 worthwhile starters. That isn't good.
Unless Floyd or Hargreaves are too good to ignore.. this sounds like an ideal situation to trade down.
Unless Floyd or Hargreaves are too good to ignore.. this sounds like an ideal situation to trade down.
Giants will have a BPA list, tiered and that is what they will go by REGARDLESS of position. If guys are so close it matters not in minds of scout and management, you take the NEED guy (2nd WR, ORT, FS).
I still think it ends up going OLT Stanley, WR Shephard and FS XXXXX in the first 3 rounds.
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and we trade down. I think that will signal we are going ORT in round one. Then we wait and address defense and WR later.
Unless Floyd or Hargreaves are too good to ignore.. this sounds like an ideal situation to trade down.
Yes, but I don't think Floyd is as high on our list as some think. I am reading a lot pro and con on Hargeaves as well. Would anyone be shocked if we took CB Apple with the #10? Not me...that is how these drafts work out.
Giants will have a BPA list, tiered and that is what they will go by REGARDLESS of position. If guys are so close it matters not in minds of scout and management, you take the NEED guy (2nd WR, ORT, FS).
I still think it ends up going OLT Stanley, WR Shephard and FS XXXXX in the first 3 rounds.
What I don't get and it seems so logical is why not pick up a S in FA? Nelson, or Abdullah, or maybe Jefferson becomes available. Now with the 3rd round we can possibly get a DE or LB and beef up our overall defensive front 7.
From Boylhart....
Tools rich. Someone will take him earlier than where I have him slotted for sure. Has a lot of development to do. Could need time to change his body a bit. I say 5th/6th. Will be taken 3rd/4th
McGovern or Dahl in the 4th seem like they could be really nice fits to compete at RG with Hart/Jerry (hopefully with a veteran RT in the fold).
McGovern or Dahl in the 4th seem like they could be really nice fits to compete at RG with Hart/Jerry (hopefully with a veteran RT in the fold).
I don't disagree at all. Several mid round guards can be a major help. You've named a few and I have a few more that I'll discuss when I come out with the OL preview in a few weeks.
The opposer approach however...for each of these names that you gave examples of, there are 4-5 guys that will be viewed as the same going in to the draft that do not work out
I think the first 2 picks are going to be some combination of WR/DL/DB. Historically that's where Reese has spent his top picks and it plays to the strengths of this draft. 3/4/5 will then likely be more filling needs picks unless they see a massive value from their board.