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muhajir : 4/3/2016 2:54 am
Not sure of the posters credibility but interesting tidbits nonetheless.


"Breaking Insider Information!!!
I have a buddy in the Giants FO. Every once in a while he'll drop me some knowledge of what's going on on the inside of the Giants Organization. Here is what I was able to get from him on the draft.

- Ramsey is the #1 guy on their board by far. They expect him yo go in the first 3 picks. However if he makes it to 3 the Giants will be on the phone making sure San Diego is where he is going. If SD doesn't plan in drafting him the Giants will try to trade up and get him to play S and keep him out of the Cowboys hands.

- Hargreaves and Floyd are the targets. Hargreaves is the higher rated prospect but he told me either of the two will make them happy. They like Floyd's versatility a lot. Spags wants him blitzing from every angle. Plus the ability of Him, Kennard, and Thomas to play multiple LB spots gives them flexibility.

- They a very confident that their 2nd round pick will be a good one. They are very high on a number of guys. They want to develop one of their younflg safties but they do love both Karl Joseph and Vonn Bell. They love bells coverage ability while they like what Joseph does both in the run and pass game. They also are EXPLORING Hunter Henry the TE from Arkansas. He isn't the top guy but they won't be mad if he is the best guy on the board by then.

- There will be an offensive lineman drafted within the first 3 rounds. They like tackle Taylor Decker a lot but think he can be had in the 2nd. Another guy they like is Cody Whitehair. They don't believe he can't play RT.

- On Reggie Ragland - "We think he can definitely play and it makes sense with Landon but at the same time he is much like Jasper and we've been trying to add a new dimension with our LB core. We want faster, quicker, more agile guys. That's not to say we WONT draft him. You never know how the board is gonna fall."

- The Giants have been keeping an eye on RBs Alex Collins, Kenyan Drake, and Keith Marshall. They think Alex can be that solid back that takes the load while they like the explosive ability of both Drake and Marshall and that they have low mileage on them

- They also aren't opposed to adding another guy on the interior of the D-line. "There is so much talent there. We can get a good guy to solidify that middle. We've gone lot of bodies there as is though." Andrew Billings is a guy they love because of his age and upside. Being just 20 there isn't a rush for him to be immediately on the field and he can eventually replace Hankins. They see Kenny Clark of UCLA as a guy that reminds them of Linval Joseph and love the ability of Vernon Butler and Maliek Collins to penetrate as 3ts. "We spent a lot on Harrison. A lot. But we feel good about it. He seems enthusiastic."

- On Nkemdiche: "Man. If he's there in the 2nd. We will be having a lot of Internal discussions."

- on WRs the only name that really came up were Sterling Shepard, Leonte Carroo, and Braxton Miller."

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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: McAdoo can say what he wants  
pjcas18 : 4/4/2016 10:30 am : link
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They also showed interest in Mario Williams,who doesn't fit your argument.



Yes, they showed interest in Williams, as they did other older prospects. But they did not sign him, or any of the others for that matter, which they could have done for deals not even close to what they dished out to the guys they signed.

There is just not the win-now urgency.


I know this has been dead-horse beaten already, but I don't think Win-now means build the best team you can for this year and forget the future or spend irresponsibly to fill every hole the team has.

I also don't think Reese has the authority to operate unilaterally.

Lastly, I believe the Giants feel like they signed the best DE, DT, and CB available in free agency period + JPP. Not the youngest, not the best to build a core around, but the best available free agents.

If you listen to or read any of the beat writers with how they quote Mara this is exactly what he says.

they targeted three guys and went out and got them, in some cases outbidding teams with even more cap space (like JAX), so yeah I see some urgency there.

I don't see why because they didn't sign older veteran players or act irresponsibly and spend unwisely it means they don't feel urgency to win now.


Mario Williams was never in play for the Giants.  
Klaatu : 4/4/2016 10:43 am : link
On March 6, PFT reported that he was, and then on March 8 they printed a retraction. Everything else written about Williams and the Giants was merely speculation that they might be interested in signing him, but clearly they weren't.

The Giants did host Charles Johnson - who's two years younger than Williams - but we all know how that went.
This is obviously just a bunch of BS  
Vanzetti : 4/4/2016 12:00 pm : link
He just stitched together all the various media reports and said a whole lot of nothing.

Also, the claim that he has a buddy in the Giants FO is such a cliche. Dead giveaway that he is total BS artist
RE: Whatever you say pal  
UberAlias : 4/4/2016 12:37 pm : link
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Showed interest but did not sign is not a win for you,no matter how you spin it


That is your argument? They are in win now because they supposedly looked at someone who they never actually had in?

Then threw massive $$ at someone else who plays the same position, far more than what Mario signed for.

You can think what you want. I have no idea why it would be such an unreasonable a view to you. I just don't see any evidence of win now beyond their poking around at a few guys who may be able to help, but obviously only looking for value contracts and never actually signed anybody despite a ton of available cash and needs. I'll leave it at that.
pjcas18  
UberAlias : 4/4/2016 12:54 pm : link
I'm not sure what win now means to you, to be honest. But if I was a GM and my priority was to "win-now", lets say hypothetically my boss told me if I if I didn't win now I would be fired, and I had the available cap space the Giants do and the glaring needs, you had better believe I would get/have gotten something done with some of these veteran free agents at OT, safety, and WR. Wouldn't you?

I understand why people believe they could/should be in win now mode. I just don't see any actions taken by the team as evidence of it, and I see some glaring non actions as evidence to the contrary.



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