What would you do if elliott is available at 10?

I don't understand the posters that say Elliot is a luxury pick. If he is what the scouting reports say he is, he would alleviate so many of our offense's problems. We would have a running back that the defense will have to account for. More favorable down and distance. More success on 3rd and short. More success in the redzone. Safeties have to creep up to stop him, which opens up opportunities for Odell. I'd argue that his impact would be much more significant than any of the Tackles available at 10.

Trent Richardson
CJ Spiller
Darren McFadden
Adrian Peterson
Reggie Bush
Ronnie Brown
Steven Jackson
Ladanian Tomlinson
Jamal Lewis

2 hall of famers and a lot of pro bowls in the group.

That's a lot of good players on that list. I'd wager a much lower bust % than other positions.

Richardson gets highlighted because he's been the most recent and the only true bust. He shouldn't (and wont) factor in one bit into the decision.

I wouldn't draft Elliot.

In comment 12886385 Vanzetti said:

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A few weeks ago, someone posted a list of RBs taken in the first round the last few years. It was amazing how most of them had been surpassed by guys taken much later. A lot of posters here who remember Gants football (strong running game, strong defense) still have an older mindset and have not fully come to terms with how radically the game has changed in tilting toward a short-drop, quick-release passing game. Same is true of the established media. And that was the problem with Coughlin: As great a coach as he was, he could never fully break with the idea that you way you operate an offense is to run the ball, throw deep passes to keep the safeties from creeping up too much, and employ play action passes once you have established the run. That basically was the core offensive philosophy in the NFL from 1970 until very recently. Also, if you look at the Giants history, they won two SBs with a 7th round RB and a 4th rd RB. The last two RBs taken in the first--David Wilson and Ron Dayne--contributed nothing. That's not to say Elliot would not contribute. He would. But you can get 80% of what he will give you from late round picks and UDFA. So, he is a good player. He is just not a good value.

True, but don't tell me Marshawn Lynch was responsible for Seattle's success.

#2 if a player I covet slides a few spots to #10.

if not go with option #3 trade down.

In comment 12886562 Danny Kanell said:

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Trent Richardson CJ Spiller Darren McFadden Adrian Peterson Reggie Bush Ronnie Brown Steven Jackson Ladanian Tomlinson Jamal Lewis 2 hall of famers and a lot of pro bowls in the group. That's a lot of good players on that list. I'd wager a much lower bust % than other positions. Richardson gets highlighted because he's been the most recent and the only true bust. He shouldn't (and wont) factor in one bit into the decision.

Looking back to 2000 makes the list meaningless. The game changed dramatically the last five years. Look at RBs taken in the first round over that time and you will get a very different story.

1st round get BPA from OT

2nd round DE/ DT pass rusher Jonathan Bullard

3rd Round OLB Correa from Boise State

4th Round BPA of CB Zach Thomas or WR Burbridge or Tajae Sharpe or TE Jerel Adams

5th Round either CB Zach Thomas or WR Burbridge or Tajae Sharpe or Malcolm Mitchell or ILB Scooby Wright

Get a Safety and a Guard in FA. Maybe a WR or CB depending on who we get in 4 or 5.

It's almost impossible to justify taking Elliott if Hargreaves and/or Floyd are available. The defense was simply too ungodly horrific to make that decision.

If both are gone, however, I could see the argument in taking him if they don't have a defensive prospect ranked in that tier.

In comment 12887024 Vanzetti said:

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In comment 12886562 Danny Kanell said: Quote: Trent Richardson CJ Spiller Darren McFadden Adrian Peterson Reggie Bush Ronnie Brown Steven Jackson Ladanian Tomlinson Jamal Lewis 2 hall of famers and a lot of pro bowls in the group. That's a lot of good players on that list. I'd wager a much lower bust % than other positions. Richardson gets highlighted because he's been the most recent and the only true bust. He shouldn't (and wont) factor in one bit into the decision. Looking back to 2000 makes the list meaningless. The game changed dramatically the last five years. Look at RBs taken in the first round over that time and you will get a very different story.

Of course. The only top 10 worthy picks are AP, LDT and probably Lewis. That's a very scant bunch..Other Backs taken are/were decent to good players, but hardly top tennable

In comment 12886273 Patrick77 said:

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Elliot running behind Newhouse, Jerry, and Tye doesn't scare anyone.

it could well be that Elliot is exactly the back we need because we have Newhouse, Jerry and Tye

no matter what they say.

People said the same thing about drafting Beckham over that Guard with Dallas. Blah blah blah.

If Elliott is there at 10 and the Giants pick him, I'll be ecstatic. He's going to be a great player in this league for years to come. There are other rounds in the draft. They can net a pass rusher in round 2.

In comment 12887337 Curtis in VA said:

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no matter what they say. People said the same thing about drafting Beckham over that Guard with Dallas. Blah blah blah. If Elliott is there at 10 and the Giants pick him, I'll be ecstatic. He's going to be a great player in this league for years to come. There are other rounds in the draft. They can net a pass rusher in round 2.

I would be quite unhappy, but, per usual, would support it

If the defensive targets are gone, I'd wager they'll pick EE before an OT.

He is a bit of a luxury pick in the sense that NYG has built its rosters around QB/DE/WR ... pass rush and impact passing attack.

If you are realistic, you realize that the pass receiving part of the game for a RB involves some learning and is not solely based on natural ability.

To believe he is an immediate upgrade over Vereen in that part of the game is ridiculous.

So you get half a back with your 10th pick and it is not even a position of pressing need. Only way you justify that is if your scouts are telling you this is a rare, once every few years type, not just the best of 2015.

I'm just of the opinion the improvement from him over the current RB stable with this roster doesn't put this team over the top.

I wish there was going to be a no brainer tackle or wide receiver available there. Even defensive end is a bit of a luxury pick after the guys the Giants signed, but I'd much rather see a DE, OT, or even a linebacker honestly than grabbing Elliot.

In comment 12887379 Bob in Newburgh said:

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If you are realistic, you realize that the pass receiving part of the game for a RB involves some learning and is not solely based on natural ability. To believe he is an immediate upgrade over Vereen in that part of the game is ridiculous. So you get half a back with your 10th pick and it is not even a position of pressing need. Only way you justify that is if your scouts are telling you this is a rare, once every few years type, not just the best of 2015.

I don't agree with that, personally.

Firstly, what player comes out of college completely developed in every aspect of their game? Do you think that Leonard Floyd isn't going to have some things to develop during his rookie season? How did Erik Flowers hold up last year? He's got a lot of room to grow and made mistakes. Most players, even top 10 picks - are going to deal with a learning curve. Not everyone is going to be an all-history type player like Beckham.

Bottom line is that Elliott is a 3 down back. He can run. He can catch. He can block. Is he perfect? No. But he's not a part time player or "half a back." He is a full time player who would immediately add a new dimension to the offense.

There are absolutely other areas that need help. But there's nothing wrong with taking this guy at 10. Nothing at all. He improves the teams chances of winning tremendously.

But if he did, I wouldn't be too upset if the Giants drafted him, even though I'm predisposed to avoid drafting RBs in the first round.

You can get a top RB in free angency for 5-7mm a year. A top OT is going to be 10-15mm. You are way ahead capwise not taking a RB.