Jordan Raanan: Nikita Whitlock put on weight this offseason. Expectation is he'll play more defense as interior pass rusher.
Interesting. He was impressive as a pass-rusher (or maybe it was because everyone else was unimpressive). This might explain the Will Johnson signing.
Mcadoo has said before that Fbs are a big part of his offense. Kuhn has been a part of the packers offense for yrs as well.
Positive: If Nikita Whitlock has added purse strength and muscle MAYBE he can be an effective "Passing Downs" DL where his quickness can exploit OL's? You have to hope we have some "magic" and maybe he's got the "wand" for 2016? We have to dream.
Negative: Nikita is still "small" so can he be effective or would he be exploited if inserted?
If Nikita and new guy Johnson BOTH make the team how much do they practice at respective positions? You always need depth and versatility?
I love the Johnson signing because of his versatility and "utility man" dimensions. I will love Nikita OH SO MUCH if he can get to the QB.
Agree - he probably is already a trendsetter
Hey, we have to pray for some "magic" here with this guy, that his college play carries over the NFL now that he has added some muscular bulk.
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If the trend towards short DTs starts, I'd think Aaron Donald (listed 6'0") would be the trendsetter.
A. Donald is 5' 11" at best.
Positive: If Nikita Whitlock has added purse strength and muscle MAYBE he can be an effective "Passing Downs" DL where his quickness can exploit OL's? You have to hope we have some "magic" and maybe he's got the "wand" for 2016? We have to dream.
Negative: Nikita is still "small" so can he be effective or would he be exploited if inserted?
If Nikita and new guy Johnson BOTH make the team how much do they practice at respective positions? You always need depth and versatility?
I love the Johnson signing because of his versatility and "utility man" dimensions. I will love Nikita OH SO MUCH if he can get to the QB.
Aaron Donald measured in at 6'1 at the combine... so at best and at worst he is 6'1
Exactly, I doubt he makes the final roster
^This
If this little DT experiment doesn't look to be going anywhere in camp he may not make the roster.
Period.
I'm pretty sure he was only out there on the DL because of the injuries in the first place.
Seeing him there this year would only mean the same thing.
Blocking Whitlock has also been described, as bench pressing from a downward angle.
Blocking Whitlock has also been described, as bench pressing from a downward angle.
What?
I think Hall of Famer John Randle who was 6'1 and 290 would probably disagree..
And probably 4x Pro Bowler Geno Atkins who Aaron Donald was compared to coming out of college would also disagree..
Period.
I'm pretty sure he was only out there on the DL because of the injuries in the first place.
Seeing him there this year would only mean the same thing.
Thank you. His value is as a special teams player and spot duty on the line as a DT if that.
I can see us on 3rd down with JPP,Vernon,Hankins and Double O rushing the passer.
Also,is Nix still on the roster?
In the weight room or street credit.
Your 2 line thread was terrible. Great coaching!
You compared the skill set of Will Johnson, who can catch run, block, and tackle on special teams to the value of Whitlock as a blocker? The Giants legally, do not have to minimize Whitlock's role to simply defensive tackle full time. He can continue to play on both sides of the ball, make the Giants tougher to game plan against. You need to shut the fuck up for a while, take some of your own medicine and don't post non-sense like this.
In the weight room or street credit.
Your 2 line thread was terrible. Great coaching!
You compared the skill set of Will Johnson, who can catch run, block, and tackle on special teams to the value of Whitlock as a blocker? The Giants legally, do not have to minimize Whitlock's role to simply defensive tackle full time. He can continue to play on both sides of the ball, make the Giants tougher to game plan against. You need to shut the fuck up for a while, take some of your own medicine and don't post non-sense like this.
What? Seriously, what the hell are you talking about? Do you ever make sense in any of your posts? I've never seen someone write more nonsensically than you. Whether it's the spelling, the grammar, the rhetoric, the poorly-formed and constructed ideas...they never make ANY sense whatsoever. Have you ever been in an English class?
With Johnson on board, Whitlock will need to continue to make contributions in all 3 phases in order to make the team.
and I do mean at the 3 as needed, not just as another 1 or 0 tech.
In the weight room or street credit.
Your 2 line thread was terrible. Great coaching!
You compared the skill set of Will Johnson, who can catch run, block, and tackle on special teams to the value of Whitlock as a blocker? The Giants legally, do not have to minimize Whitlock's role to simply defensive tackle full time. He can continue to play on both sides of the ball, make the Giants tougher to game plan against. You need to shut the fuck up for a while, take some of your own medicine and don't post non-sense like this.
What's the penalty if they illegally reduce his role?
probably MUCH stronger than Donald, maybe not as quick, but....the combination of really low leverage, great power unusually blended with the one legit step and a footballers mentality (chases down the play) may give someone something just as valuable, in that he will be able to push the pocket immediately at snap on one down and also be of use at the 1 and 0 if and when shematics make that helpful for a down or two in keeping with multiplicity.
right now we don't appear to have the low/quick/inside thing nailed down, last piece of a great puzzle.
He is 6'3" and 260, possibly, with practice, can become better at fullback pass protection / blitz pick up than at tight end type blocking,
as a lone setback, threat to receive, extra protection for manning role, occasional runner (hehe, the delay after so many reps without it)
School: Stony Brook
Position: TE
Bio: Florida State transfer awarded All-conference honors last season. Posted a career-best 45 receptions and 520 receiving yards as a junior, when he started 10 games.
Positive: Athletic tight end with solid size/speed numbers. Uses his hands to separate from opponents, finds the open seam in the defense and nicely adjusts to errant throws. Works to keep the play in bounds running after the catch. Stays low exiting breaks and prepares himself for receptions. Fights with his hands to separate from defenders then uses his frame to box out opponents. Shows the ability to get downfield into the secondary and a consistent hand catcher.
Negative: Gets minimal results blocking for a larger tight end. Late off the snap. Lacks great height.
Analysis: Offering the size and skill to line up as a >>>> tight end/H-back/fullback, <<<<< Tye offers upside but must improve his blocking to have any chance of a career at the next level. At the very least he's worth consideration on a practice squad"