...clearly an area of need! There are no guarantees with all the injuries we have with untested players, and several here on BBI have wondered why no free agents have been secured at this position.
Maybe Giants management has been planning from the get-go to secure a Safety in Round 2 where there is bound to be one (or several) of the following there at #40:
D. Thompson
V. Bell
S. Cravens
K. Neal
K. Joseph
D. Bush
The only issue may be that Thompson is probably the only true Free Safety out of this bunch and that's where we are really hurting.
Time will tell. But to go into the 2016 Season with what we've got now is not a great solution.
I guess you're in favor of quantity over quality
If you went Elliott in the 1st, FS in the 2nd. You could cut down your roster by 5 or 6 players.
If I were Jerry I'd tell the scouts to find me a OT that could start over Newhouse and be around in 4th or 5th rounds. That would free you up to draft Elliott if he's there. But we need five positions. OT, FS, WR, Slot CB, TE.
He had a great Senior Bowl ....
http://www.landgrantholyland.com/2016/1/30/10846838/senior-bowl-2016-ohio-state-tyvis-powell-shines-on-and-off-the-field
He's smart ...
(Read somewhere that he finished college early)
Plays big in big games (against Oregon & Alabama)
And is a great kid (I read somewhere, too that he likes to joke around
with team-mates) I wonder if he's as good a kidder as Eli is ?
2) Emanuel Ogbah DE
3)Braxton Miller
4) TJ Green FS Clemson
Check out Green's Highlight's
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To me its:
1) WR
2) RT
3) FS
I'd suggest even a W Cruz coming in w uncertainly is a better option at the # 2 WR spot than Newhouse at RT Or who ever the line up at FS. WR is a need but they can get a kid like Carroo from Rutgers at 3 more easily than a starter at RT like Conklin who would come in and play day 1. FS is like linebacker for the Giants. They don't place much value on it. Now they do like drafting DBs higher than any other position other than WR and DL but I think Reese likes his cheap later drafted of FA crew for now.
I can see them drafting a S in Rd 2. Now that's depending on who falls out of Rd 1 there will be more than a few guys available at 40 while should/will start for the Giants next fall. Maybe a are like Dodd or a one of the WRs falls as teams nab some of the top tier defensive talent this year.
Offense wins games these days but Denver showed what a dominant defense can do. Manning was a shadow or himself and they won w D. Seattle despite all the Russle Wilson love from the media is also a defensive oriented team who has won the SuperBowl with a less than stellar offensive scheme. Now Seattles run game is/was top tier w Lynch but their D still drives that bus
So while they may need a WR and a RT need a big time They need a S, DE and even a WILL LB too it Myles Jack is available at 10. I think that #2 WRs and RTs can be found in rounds 3-6 much easier than top tier pass rushers and a kid like Jack who God willing slips due to being a true 4-3 LB. heck of the kid from ND Smith's knee holds up in an exam and the nerve damage suggestion is not proven to true. That they need defensive talent just much om D more.
When u sign guys to big FA Contracts you may need cap releif in that position group. So at DE while you have JPP, OO, and now Vernon a young top end DE falls to them at 1 or 2 they should and know Reese's penchant for grabbing DEs early I could still see them picking one up early. JPP is a FA after next season. So they could grab a kid like Dodd or even maybe Ohgbah if he actually falls.
Lots of choices for them at 1,2, and 3 where they maybe can grab 2 starters and a 3rd player who develops into a starter at 3.
There's no way they've spent the last 6 weeks saying "we'll just grab a safety in the second round". No one has any clue who will or won't be available at 40 and pinning your hopes for a position based on that logic is a good way to screw yourself. What if the prospect(s) you targeted are all gone by then? Then you're caught with your pants down. What if a higher ranked player at another position of need slips to 40? Now you're left to choose between a higher ranked player and filling a need with a lesser prospect.
This is why I hate when people state things like "I'd take a (insert position here) in the 3rd round". How can you target a position that specifically when you have absolutely no idea who will be available? That isn't to say teams don't go into the draft targeting certain positions, but they don't don't get that specific about when they will target that position. The draft is simply too unpredictable to use that philosophy.
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Maybe Giants management has been planning from the get-go to secure a Safety in Round 2 where there is bound to be one (or several) of the following there at #40
There's no way they've spent the last 6 weeks saying "we'll just grab a safety in the second round". No one has any clue who will or won't be available at 40 and pinning your hopes for a position based on that logic is a good way to screw yourself. What if the prospect(s) you targeted are all gone by then? Then you're caught with your pants down. What if a higher ranked player at another position of need slips to 40? Now you're left to choose between a higher ranked player and filling a need with a lesser prospect.
This is why I hate when people state things like "I'd take a (insert position here) in the 3rd round". How can you target a position that specifically when you have absolutely no idea who will be available? That isn't to say teams don't go into the draft targeting certain positions, but they don't don't get that specific about when they will target that position. The draft is simply too unpredictable to use that philosophy.
You're taking the picks people are predicting too literal after round 1. When people are making these picks there has to be a certain assumption made that nearly all the higher board players are gone and if you were selecting it came down to 3 or 4 players that were rated about equal at different positions- who would you take?
In round 2 if you had a QB, RB, and DE as your top 3 in the big board in which the QB was rated higher, then the rb, if you were the Giants, who would you take if their rankings were very close?
...thank you.
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Maybe Giants management has been planning from the get-go to secure a Safety in Round 2 where there is bound to be one (or several) of the following there at #40
There's no way they've spent the last 6 weeks saying "we'll just grab a safety in the second round". No one has any clue who will or won't be available at 40 and pinning your hopes for a position based on that logic is a good way to screw yourself. What if the prospect(s) you targeted are all gone by then? Then you're caught with your pants down. What if a higher ranked player at another position of need slips to 40? Now you're left to choose between a higher ranked player and filling a need with a lesser prospect.
This is why I hate when people state things like "I'd take a (insert position here) in the 3rd round". How can you target a position that specifically when you have absolutely no idea who will be available? That isn't to say teams don't go into the draft targeting certain positions, but they don't don't get that specific about when they will target that position. The draft is simply too unpredictable to use that philosophy.
You're taking the picks people are predicting too literal after round 1. When people are making these picks there has to be a certain assumption made that nearly all the higher board players are gone and if you were selecting it came down to 3 or 4 players that were rated about equal at different positions- who would you take?
In round 2 if you had a QB, RB, and DE as your top 3 in the big board in which the QB was rated higher, then the rb, if you were the Giants, who would you take if their rankings were very close?
Great expansion and I agree with that 100%. It's also pretty funny because I have posted the exact same thing myself leading up to past drafts in debates about need vs BPA and how it's a mix of both, grades are weighted according to need, etc. So we're actually on the same page.
What I mean is that even using that philosophy, there will be times when there are no prospects rated high enough in a particular round. At the same time, i can see how my post could be taken that way or elicit that response.