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Secondary - Not Sure I see the Need

area junc : 4/15/2016 4:41 pm
And the Giants ALWAYS draft for need in the 1st round. With that said - I don't see Hargreaves in round 1 or Vonn Bell in round 2.

At CB, the Giants are set outside with DRC and Janoris Jenkins. Bennett Jackson looked like he had game at slot CB last year, with Trevin Wade backing up. Wade stinks but has experience in the system and I don't see desperate need there. Another talented slot CB would be nice - so would a protege to DRC and JJ - but they don't have to force it. Certainly not in round 1. Far bigger fish to fry. (This is not a team that has the luxury of grooming back-ups to solid starters.)

At S, I still believe the Giants think they're OK with Nat Berhe and a 2nd-year Landon Collins. Collins was lost last year but was only 21 and had never been to NYC before. That's a lot to ask. Again - another talented S would be nice - but no need to force it over bigger needs at OL, DL, WR or LB.

I would also suggest that the quality depth in this draft is at DT which aligns with organizational tendencies.

Nothing earth-shattering but I believe we can narrow the 1st and 2nd round picks to those 4 positions. (No DB.)
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RE: Like I said  
chris r : 4/17/2016 11:04 am : link
In comment 12904920 area junc said:
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could we use some guys? Sure.

More than a starting WR opposite Beckham in a WCO? More than a starting OT? More than a stud DL or LB?

The f#ck outta here....


Wait so you're saying you're as comfortable with the starting safeties as you are with the DEs or DTs? WTF.
RE: This thread  
area junc : 4/17/2016 11:06 am : link
In comment 12906311 chopperhatch said:
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Is much like the second part of the OP's handle.

As much as I want to take Conklin at 10, I also am terrified of our secondary. To say that WR is a higher need than WR at this point is just ignorant and foolish. We at least have players on the team to play the position in White, Harris, Davis. We literally do not have a single player who is a FS that has NFL experience. Both of them has very very bad injuries last year.

irresponsible post? lmfao. u gotta be kidding me. Because I think there are bigger needs elsewhere that is incomprehensible to you?

typical of what u deal with here.
Regarding corner, the drop off at corner is more than steep. It's an abyss. While Newhouse at RT may not be ideal by any means, our pass pro last year was at least pretty good as a whole. But teams with more than one receiver will eat Wade and co alive if we don't spend somewhat high on corner.

I echo the rest....irresponsible post.
irresponsible post?  
area junc : 4/17/2016 11:07 am : link
lmfao. u gotta be kidding me. Because I think there are bigger needs elsewhere that is incomprehensible to you?

typical of what u deal with here.
chris r what  
area junc : 4/17/2016 11:08 am : link
are you asking me? don't understand your question
RE: chris r what  
chris r : 4/17/2016 11:12 am : link
In comment 12906317 area junc said:
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are you asking me? don't understand your question


You said you don't see as much need in the secondary as on the DL. We have 4 very good starters on the DL.

We don't have a single proven good starting safety.

RE: irresponsible post?  
chopperhatch : 4/17/2016 11:18 am : link
In comment 12906316 area junc said:
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lmfao. u gotta be kidding me. Because I think there are bigger needs elsewhere that is incomprehensible to you?

typical of what u deal with here.


I love it. Practically everybody defeats your position and you stick to your guns.

Again, a total of zero FS on the team and 2 serviceable corners. But where's the need????

Keep being you dude!
who defeated my position?  
area junc : 4/17/2016 11:22 am : link
What a laughable statement.

You know what's irresponsible? Stock-piling talent at 1 position while letting other positions (TE, RB, LB, S) become the worst in the NFL.
RE: Why does anyone  
mort christenson : 4/17/2016 11:37 am : link
In comment 12905113 Joey in VA said:
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Interact with a deluded multi handle using wanna be insider who clearly has an insane pathology?
good lord, that sounds like Matt in Syracuse. Thomas is the new MiS.
RE: who defeated my position?  
Klaatu : 4/17/2016 6:01 pm : link
In comment 12906329 area junc said:
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What a laughable statement.

You know what's irresponsible? Stock-piling talent at 1 position while letting other positions (TE, RB, LB, S) become the worst in the NFL.


"Stockpile" isn't the word I'd use to describe our secondary. Well...half of it is.
RE: RE: who defeated my position?  
chopperhatch : 4/17/2016 11:45 pm : link
In comment 12906664 Klaatu said:
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In comment 12906329 area junc said:


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What a laughable statement.

You know what's irresponsible? Stock-piling talent at 1 position while letting other positions (TE, RB, LB, S) become the worst in the NFL.



"Stockpile" isn't the word I'd use to describe our secondary. Well...half of it is.


No cure for stupidity.
RE: Bennett Jackson hasn't even played a game  
Mike in Boston : 4/17/2016 11:49 pm : link
In comment 12904877 Jimmy Googs said:
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so when did he look good at slot CB?


Of course, no draft pick will have played an NFL game either
RE: RE: Bennett Jackson hasn't even played a game  
Klaatu : 4/18/2016 1:42 am : link
In comment 12907053 Mike in Boston said:
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In comment 12904877 Jimmy Googs said:


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so when did he look good at slot CB?



Of course, no draft pick will have played an NFL game either


That's true. But you would hope that the Giants wouldn't draft another conversion project, or a guy coming off two ACL tears, which is what they have in Bennett Jackson.
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