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dep026 : 4/15/2016 11:12 pm
aka the Warriors coronation begins tomorrow. I dont see too many upsets in the first round, maybe the Pacers over the Raptors, because the 3, 4, 5, 6 and seeds are all very even.

News to note. I have been mentioning for months now that the ideal person to coach the TWolves is Thibs because he has the pieces of a great defensive team with Rubio/Towns/Dieng. If he could mold Lavine and Wiggins, its just the ideal spot, and rumors are he is their number 1 choice. It almost makes too much sense. If they can win a top 2 selection in the lottery and somehow get Simmons or Ingram..... watch out. I think that will be a good match for both parties involved.
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RE: I didn't see Harden gain separation  
dep026 : 4/22/2016 11:33 am : link
In comment 12915591 santacruzom said:
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By pushing off. He made a great play at full speed and used Iggys momentum against him. Kudos.

Of course my memory may be foggy: I was so distraught by the reality that the Warriors won't sweep the Houston Rockets. Darkest period in Warriors history? I say yes.


See here's my problem with the play. Harden sticking his forearm out, prevents Iggy from getting to him. In that situation, its impossbile for him to get physical or even contest a shot. I still think there was enough contact to garner even more separation.

But the fact of the matter that you are allowed to lead with your forearm sticking out is absurd. You arent allowed to box out that way. You arent allowed to screen someone like that. You cant out your forearm on a guy dribbling. I jsut dont see it as a basketball play.
All I know is  
santacruzom : 4/22/2016 12:53 pm : link
Short of egregiously plowing over a stationary defender (fuck you autocorrect, I do mean stationary!), I don't see a way the officials wave off a really good shot at that stage of the game.

I can live with that. Let me put it this way: If I later reflect on that play as among the five worst non calls the Warriors faced in these playoffs I think they'll have been lucky.

Hell, one Spurs game alone will eclipse that.
oh snap  
santacruzom : 4/22/2016 5:27 pm : link
My apologies... the NBA just announced that a foul on Harden should indeed have been called on that last shot!

Holy shit. I guess on the one hand I'm not super invested in the call because it just delayed the inevitable Warriors series victory, but I wanted to sweep those fools!
Harden committed offensive foul prior to game winner - ( New Window )
lol  
dep026 : 4/24/2016 4:29 pm : link
Harden close to getting more calls than Jordan and Lebron combined.
Warriors down 7  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 4/24/2016 4:35 pm : link
Late 2nd quarter.
Me thinks  
dep026 : 4/24/2016 4:52 pm : link
there is going to be a ton of hack a whoever in the Clippers-Warriors series. GS laying bricks from the foul line.
Uh oh.  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 4/24/2016 4:58 pm : link
Curry fell alkwardly, limping to locker room.
I would be embarrassed  
dep026 : 4/24/2016 6:17 pm : link
if I were a Rockets fan. No curry, and you get outscored by 30 in the 2nd half.
I can't believe  
santacruzom : 4/24/2016 6:20 pm : link
We didn't sweep those candy asses.
RE: I can't believe  
dep026 : 4/24/2016 6:27 pm : link
In comment 12918783 santacruzom said:
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We didn't sweep those candy asses.


You would have if for whatever reason the refs give Harden the superstar treatment. The criticism for things other than his defense should start to grow.
Let's go Cs  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 4/24/2016 6:28 pm : link
!
whatever Cameron Payne was doing on the sideline  
dep026 : 4/25/2016 9:46 pm : link
should have gotten him ejected.
Well tonight was a devastating back to back nights for all NBA fans  
David in LA : 4/26/2016 1:50 am : link
First Steph goes down, and tonight CP3 fractures his hand. I was looking forward to a Western Conference with all the great guards healthy. The OKC/SA series is going to be such a monster series. Call me crazy, but I think the Thunder matches up well with the Spurs.
Dave  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 4/26/2016 6:25 am : link
I'd give OKC a decent chance @ beating SAS. It'll be a war. The teams split the season series 2-2, with each team holding serve at home.

I'd go Spurs in 6, but wouldn't be shocked @ all if OKC pulled it out.
Kemba  
UConn4523 : 4/26/2016 8:03 am : link
.
Is it wrong to say  
santacruzom : 4/26/2016 11:12 am : link
That, despite being a Warriors fan who should be devastated by Curry's injury, I actually kinda... like it?

Maybe the wrong way to put it. But suddenly some drama has been inserted into their run, and I'm damn curious to see what happens on the court. Maybe Barnes responds in a heretofore unBarnesian way and becomes a threatening basketball player. Maybe Draymond puts up triple after triple double. Maybe Klay goes full alpha, or Iggy re-emerges.

Can't wait to find out.

Paul out at least 4 weeks  
dep026 : 4/26/2016 5:41 pm : link
Griffin done for the playoffs
Another franchise that needs to start from scratch.
Pacers just blew a 15 point lead in about 2  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 4/26/2016 8:26 pm : link
Minutes.
No more watching James Harden  
santacruzom : 2:01 am : link
For 6 months.

Hallelujah!
Pathetic  
Such a weak ass showing from this team all season. Glad they got embarrassed.

sucks how injuries are once again playing such a big role in these playoffs.
way to go thunder  
dep026 : 4/30/2016 9:13 pm : link
way to come and play.
Pop  
adambear : 4/30/2016 9:16 pm : link
is going to pants BD.


Also, the level of effort on D from KD and RW is extremely disappointing
Holy shit!  
santacruzom : 4/30/2016 10:52 pm : link
32 point differential? Damn.
lot of blowouts  
dep026 : 5/1/2016 2:30 pm : link
these playoffs. Kemba laying a massive turd for a game 7.
Go home Kemba  
dep026 : 5/1/2016 2:54 pm : link
you are just embarrassing yourself now.
Copied and pasted from other thread:  
giantsfan44ab : 5/1/2016 3:14 pm : link
Miami made a statement today. I think it's gonna be a Miami-Cleveland ECF. I can't take Toronto seriously for the life of me, even if they beat Indy, and I don't think Indy has the star offense to keep up with Miami's surprisingly deep defensive roster.

I keep hearing praise for Charlotte, but I think they have peaked. They're not as young as people would assume; all of their major contributors outside Kemba are vets. Coming into free agency, they have Marvin Williams, Courtney Lee, Nic Batum, and Al Jefferson are UFAs, 3 of which are starters. I can't see them achieving the same sort of success if MKG, Lamb and Hawes have to carry the burden. I think it's pretty likely they lose 2 of those guys, and if that happens, I have a hard time seeing how they get into the playoffs again.
You lose by 30 on a game 7  
dep026 : 5/1/2016 3:17 pm : link
thats embarrassing. Watch the Charlotte Hornets acquire Howard to make things worse.
RE: You lose by 30 on a game 7  
giantsfan44ab : 5/1/2016 3:23 pm : link
In comment 12939057 dep026 said:
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thats embarrassing. Watch the Charlotte Hornets acquire Howard to make things worse.


Not sure that they'd be able to afford Howard if they retain Batum, Lee and Marvin. I think early reports suggest that they are going to offer Batum the max which I believe is in the $25-27M range. This is a guess but I think Lee and Williams will each get around $10M a year because of the limited 3 and D options (especially for Williams since he plays the "stretch 4"). Howard is looking for a max and although thats crazy I wouldn't be surprised if there are offers close to it, at least upwards of $20M a year. Charlotte has $45M-ish in available cap so I have a hard time seeing how they come back as strong next year. If I had to predict a landing spot for Howard its Dallas, followed by Boston as a worst case scenario for them.
retaining the likes of  
dep026 : 5/1/2016 3:47 pm : link
Lee and Williams is a tell tale sign of medicority. They are the epitome of average, replaceable players.
RE: retaining the likes of  
giantsfan44ab : 5/1/2016 4:50 pm : link
In comment 12939117 dep026 said:
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Lee and Williams is a tell tale sign of medicority. They are the epitome of average, replaceable players.


That's been their philosophy. The one time they have the worst record they fall out of the 1st pick and get stuck with MKG over Anthony Davis. They've given up picks, prospects for a 1 year rental of Batum (3 months rental for Lee). Unless they blow up the roster they're not gonna land top picks, and unless they keep spending money on good role players (and not top FAs) they're gonna miss the playoffs. This is the path Michael has chosen.
McCullom and Lillard  
dep026 : 5/1/2016 4:58 pm : link
way to show up. Brick city.
Varejao should be kicked out  
dep026 : 5/1/2016 5:15 pm : link
leg whips are fucking dangerous.
thats a fucking joke  
dep026 : 5/1/2016 5:17 pm : link
a double technical is a wash and the guy who leg whips a guy gets nothing. Kick him out, give hernderson a T and everything is justified. Horrific decision.
worst 7 game series in the history of sports  
dep026 : 5/1/2016 10:34 pm : link
about as bad as basketball you can play. Raptors should be disqualified despite winning the series.
A duo defining game for Durant and Russ tonight  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/2/2016 8:50 pm : link
After that Game 1, these two need to step the hell up. Only way they win this series is if they're the two best players on the court. In game 1 Kawhi and Aldridge (in that order) were the two best players.

Durant is a historic scorer statistically but he needs to erupt against a Spurs team that isn't even using Kawhi against him. And Westbrook can't look lost everytime that Kawhi is guarding him.

Donovan also can't look like a chump vs. Pop as is expected.

Big game, I'm expecting another easy Spurs win because they are truly a historically great team. But the Thunder will always have a punchers chance with their top two at their best. Huge game for the Thunder in this era.

Kawhi is Incredible, it's just mind blowing to me how good he is. He's better than Peak Pippen right now, he's better than Russ or KD right now. He's better than a hobbled Curry. He might even be better than LeBron because of his superior shooting and defense. He's incredible. I probably jinxed him for this game, and I hope I did because I want this series to be a long one.

Better then peak pippen  
hitdog42 : 5/2/2016 9:28 pm : link
Is an opinion not a fact.
It is an opinion, a tough one  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/2/2016 9:31 pm : link
But the level he's playing at right now is just nuts.

Pippens ball handling was great and maybe have him more "Lebron-like carry a team" ability than Kawhi has. But Kawhis far superior shooting makes him a better "icing on the cake" player, probably the main reason why MJ is viewed as better than LeBron.
I agree with your post on them being slightly different players  
hitdog42 : 5/2/2016 9:33 pm : link
Which is why I think tough to compare
But I also agree that for what Leonard is asked to do... There hasn't been many better period.
This is part of why I find Lebron to be a little disappointing  
Aspano! : 5/2/2016 10:16 pm : link
Yes, he's obviously one of the best ever. There has been no better passer at the 3, he's a great defender, and his strength at the basket is phenomenal.

But Jordan was a monster from midrange. Even if his athletic ability was gone, he could rely on that and his post play. What does Lebron have? He's inconsistent from midrange, and he's a poor 3 point shooter in a league where that has become that much more important. When his athleticism fades, what's his fallback? Defensively maybe at the 4, but even then, with the stretch 4 becoming the norm, is he consistent enough to be effective there? I guess time will tell, but I wish he had perfected some facet of his offensive game over the course of his career.

In fact, I think playing with someone like KP who can stretch the floor but man the 5 on defense would actually help his legacy.
Great game through 3  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/2/2016 11:30 pm : link
This is going to be a bigtime 4th quarter.

As great as Westbrook is, he's not the most clutch player and struggles in these type of situations. He needs to show up here.
Aldridge is keeping them alive  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/2/2016 11:58 pm : link
What a beast.
Fucking refs ugh  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/3/2016 12:08 am : link
Ruining an awesome game with awful officiating at the end.

1-1, best of 5.
OKC gets away with one there.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/3/2016 12:11 am : link
In all my years of watching basketball, I don't think I've ever seen the inbounds passer touch someone on the floor before inbounding the ball.

Leonard wasn't good late while Aldridge carried them.

Big 3 by Waiters late.
lol Webber lost his mind and i liked it  
adambear : 5/3/2016 12:16 am : link
Danny Green actually cost the spurs the game once he got the loose ball. Instead of a slow lob to I think Mills (maybe Parker I don't remember) he should have thrown a bounce pass to a streaking manu for what could have been a lay in
Also.. are you allowed to jump  
adambear : 5/3/2016 12:25 am : link
on a pass in ball out of bounds? I thought you couldn't move your feet?
One of the worst missed calls I've ever seen  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/3/2016 12:26 am : link
it was blatant and right in front of him.
I generally think refs  
adambear : 5/3/2016 12:29 am : link
are inconsistent with ball out of bounds plays. Having a guy who can hound over the line is just as much of a violation. But waiters literally elbowed manu lol
I was right!  
adambear : 5/3/2016 12:47 am : link
I knew you couldnt jump on the inbounds! Remember that from elementary school lol
That's a pretty terrible  
halfback20 : 5/3/2016 2:18 am : link
Call. One of the worst no calls I've ever seen
.  
HeavyLevy : 5/3/2016 3:40 am : link
Really you are going to let the inconstancy of the Refs slide?

Who do you think Wins in the finals? Cavs or Warriors?

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