Guys like Bosa, Buckner & Shaq had, but I figured closed to 700. If Floyd had similar snap numbers & kept a similar percentage he'd have had around 15 sacks.
Can't really fault the guy for not having sacks if his job wasn't to rush the passer.
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that I agree the most with is "he has a freakish first step".
I watched 2 full games (Vanderbilt and Alabama) and when he lines up as an edge rusher, it almost looks like he is offside, or that all the other down linemen on both sides of the ball are in slow motion.
You simply can't teach that.
His wingspan is also a lot longer than any other linebacker, but it makes for some very different arm tackles. He usually tackles the ball carrier, but its more of a grab and throw down type of tackle without him driving through.
I would add is that in the games I watched, Floyd was sometimes outside and assigned to cover a slot receiver. His coverage skills need work, but what impressed me was his ability to stay with receivers step for step.
I doubt you could find another high level college team that had enough confidence in one player to have him play 3 different positions in a game (inside LB in the Georgia 3-4, edge rusher, and slot coverage) on a regular basis.
I have no doubt that the opposing Offensive Coordinator each week devoted a ton of time developing a gameplan around Floyd's versatility and speed.
If Mara seriously wants a playmaker in Round 1, Floyd has to be in the Giants top row.
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This is the guy for the role they envisioned for Kiwi(and more). Do it all LB, side line to side line paly the run, rush passers-by from multiple angles,play zone and even cover TEs and RBS one on one.
Especially considering the actual QB play in the SEC was so bad this past year.
Again, easy to call, he's a bust. but people don't listen.
Dude football isnt that black and white. oh he is a good pass rusher blitz him EVERY play. georgia played a lot of nickel package he is asked to cover ALOT. thats the scheme. i dont see how you can just label him a bust because he was asked to cover lol...his coverage ability is awesome so they used him in as many different ways as possible. to me it says his versatility and athletic ability, it shouldnt be a knock on him
In the article it says that he is a 3-4 outside linebacker. Play is similar to Bruce Irvin. He has the POTENTIAL (key word) to be a strong side lber in a 4-3.
That means he could play it but its not his ideal spot. At 10 I want a guy who already excels at the position we drafted him for. I do n know if I trust him to 1 put on weight, 2 has the ability learn to play the strong side position in a 4-3 at the pro level, 3 hope that he is able to succeed at it.
In the article it says that he is a 3-4 outside linebacker. Play is similar to Bruce Irvin. He has the POTENTIAL (key word) to be a strong side lber in a 4-3.
That means he could play it but its not his ideal spot. At 10 I want a guy who already excels at the position we drafted him for. I do n know if I trust him to 1 put on weight, 2 has the ability learn to play the strong side position in a 4-3 at the pro level, 3 hope that he is able to succeed at it.
Most teams arent in their base defense often man. todays NFL has DCs showing multiple over and under fronts. spags will probably show a ton of different looks and floyd will be all over. the simple well he isnt a SAM or a WILL doesnt always apply. the kid can play. you put him all over and ask a lot of him, athletically he is clearly gifted
There's an article on NJ.com I forget the writer, but it comes with quotes from NFL scouts. They say his best position is 4-3 OLB.
We need to start thinking outside the box & stop using position labels. Tyrann Mathieu, Deone Buchanon, Jamie Collins etc etc don't have true positions, but they are dominant football players. We need versatility. Floyd is the most versatile player on Defense as soon as he is drafted.
His coaches/scheme sucked that's why he doesn't have great production. Odell averaged 780 yards & 4 TDs in college. Should we have not taken him? That's not good production at all.
How do you knock how they used him? The goal isn't to get sack numbers.
They moved him all over and he was a vital part of a defense that got crazy pressure on QBs which allowed them to cover up for a very inexperienced set of DBs.
Like Yankee said, when asked to rush from the edge he displayed special skills. Skills that will work in the NFL.
Of all the guys being talked about in the press for the Giants, Floyd is my favorite. It would be an exciting addition (and I believe instant impact player) to the defense.
Admittedly I don't know much, but just basing off of that PFF scouting report, he should be the pick. Tough to pass up on a guy who could be so freakishly athletic and such a good pass rusher.
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This is the guy for the role they envisioned for Kiwi(and more). Do it all LB, side line to side line paly the run, rush passers-by from multiple angles,play zone and even cover TEs and RBS one on one.
I don't know if you watched the tape on the Vanderbilt game in that slide show, coach, but that one play when he covers the slot receiver 30 yards downfield is damn impressive
After watching the tape, I'm sold. The only thing is that he seems like a classic 3-4 LB. If the Giants take him, makes you wonder about their plans.
Do they let Hankin walk, make Snacks the NT and switch Bromley to DE in some sort of hybrid 3-4/4-3 or maybe switch to 3-4 altogether?
I started the linked post about a month ago. Much of what PFF and NJ.com are saying confirms what I have heard. Pretty much Floyd's versatility and Georgia's defensive scheme prevented the possibility of big pass rush numbers, he has huge upside, and no reason why he can't be an Anthony Barr type player. Old BBI thread, some thoughts on Floyd - ( New Window )
How do you knock how they used him? The goal isn't to get sack numbers.
They moved him all over and he was a vital part of a defense that got crazy pressure on QBs which allowed them to cover up for a very inexperienced set of DBs.
Like Yankee said, when asked to rush from the edge he displayed special skills. Skills that will work in the NFL.
Of all the guys being talked about in the press for the Giants, Floyd is my favorite. It would be an exciting addition (and I believe instant impact player) to the defense.
I would love to be sold on him. Yes, his athletic ability is eyebrow raising. Yes, I love that he is tall and can run with wideouts if need be (wonder if using him against guy like Dez or AJ Green inside the 10 would happen). But KWALL and others, have you watched him play the run? In that Vandy tape, his lack of aggression and sensing how the play developed was evident to say the least. He was constantly chasing, easily quarantined by blockers, taking bad angles to the runner's path and arm tackling. I just have a very hard time taking a DE/LB like that at 10.
A lot of the attributes I've listed are fine for WILL. But I hate drafting "athletes".
I find myself torn between the idea of Floyd at 10, and trading back for an extra 2nd or 3rd. The two players I like the most by round are Floyd in 1 and vonn bell in 2. I think a decent WR can be had in round 3. I just worry about RT. I don't like the idea of taking an OT in round 1, but if the Giants want a young guy to come in and play, he's probably going to have to be selected before round 4.
but in the footage included in the link, when Floyd lined up ILB or roughly over center and 3 - 5 yards off LOS, he rarely figured in the play, being easily taken out (including by holds that were not called). I did not watch all the clips. I get that this is not where his strengths are, but curious that this aspect did not come up, in the context of playing the run.
I'm not impressed by him, plus this pick reminds me to much of Clint Sintim. Imo he doesn't fit well in the Giants system. Last thing the Giants need is another experiment..
I find myself torn between the idea of Floyd at 10, and trading back for an extra 2nd or 3rd. The two players I like the most by round are Floyd in 1 and vonn bell in 2. I think a decent WR can be had in round 3. I just worry about RT. I don't like the idea of taking an OT in round 1, but if the Giants want a young guy to come in and play, he's probably going to have to be selected before round 4.
I like Floyd a lot - he's going to be an impact player for us -- and I think the talent level of the first round drops after the first 10 picks if yo include the 2 QBs -- I think you have to go with an uber talent like him as opposed to trading back - because the players you get in trading back are less likely to have the same kind of impact --- It's a process we are not going to solve all our problems with a snappity snap snap
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This is the guy for the role they envisioned for Kiwi(and more). Do it all LB, side line to side line paly the run, rush passers-by from multiple angles,play zone and even cover TEs and RBS one on one.
I don't know if you watched the tape on the Vanderbilt game in that slide show, coach, but that one play when he covers the slot receiver 30 yards downfield is damn impressive
After watching the tape, I'm sold. The only thing is that he seems like a classic 3-4 LB. If the Giants take him, makes you wonder about their plans.
Do they let Hankin walk, make Snacks the NT and switch Bromley to DE in some sort of hybrid 3-4/4-3 or maybe switch to 3-4 altogether?
I don't think he's covering slot receivers in the pros but yeah that was a great indicator of this guy's athleticsm and fluidity at 6'5 230+ lbs (now 245)
Get this kid in that Kiwi role and we may finally see the impact a player with freakish talent can make from that position.
but in the footage included in the link, when Floyd lined up ILB or roughly over center and 3 - 5 yards off LOS, he rarely figured in the play, being easily taken out (including by holds that were not called). I did not watch all the clips. I get that this is not where his strengths are, but curious that this aspect did not come up, in the context of playing the run.
You're not wrong, he looks pretty avg against fucking Vanderbilt.
I really want to like his potential, but I want a football player first. And he doesn't strike me as being strong enough at the POA.
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Which is exactly what he won't be doing for the Giants as a SAM in a 4-3. Not on the regular. Show me footage of him covering really good TEs and pass catching RBs, and I'd be more interested.
around Floyd is he wasn't used as pass rusher enough. he's an explosive pass rusher, both hand in the dirt and blitzer
i think the big problem people are having with him is there isn't an easy comparison. i see a lot of aldon smith in his game although he's obviously no where near as heavy
I hear the critics about him at SLB. He has the physical tools and has good coverage ability, what about him playing WLB? His current lack of power may not be such an issue plus he can use his speed and athleticism in space.
Why not keep Kennard at SLB with Floyd at WLB outside of Vernon.
but in the footage included in the link, when Floyd lined up ILB or roughly over center and 3 - 5 yards off LOS, he rarely figured in the play, being easily taken out (including by holds that were not called). I did not watch all the clips. I get that this is not where his strengths are, but curious that this aspect did not come up, in the context of playing the run.
He is good against the run to the outside. When they ran at him, he made the tackle but usually backed up a yard or two rather than moving up and filling the whole.
He is obviously not an ILB at the next level. Rick brought up that scouts see him as a 4-3 OLB. I just don't see it. He is best at rushing the passer from the outside just off the LOS like Aldon Smith or Demarcus Ware. He actually reminds me of LT in the way he lines up on either side of the LOS and pursues from behind. He obviously does not have LT's strength but he tries to play the game the same way. And he definitely plays to the whistle and does not take plays off. I like him.
because that's where he's gonna end up. He isn't this monster pass rusher despite what people are projecting. The actual results are he's mediocre at best.
Yeah, I know that's what's said, even though I don't recall ever seeing a 3-4 formation. But let's say it's true. It isn't often. Then you're looking at a guy -- Floyd -- who's BEST thing is clearly rushing the passer -- only getting to rush on a part-time basis. You don't (IMO) burn a 10th overall pick on that.
So in the course of a game, HOW OFTEN do you send him after the QB from the SAM position? Maybe, if he's really great at it at the NFL level, and it works, it becomes a feature on passing downs. Maybe he becomes a impact player as a specialist. But aren't we talking about the SAME ROLE/Position that made Kiwi just another guy, and Clint Sintim a wasted pick?
If the Giants base D was a 3-4, I think Floyd would be a great fit. But it isn't. And frankly, if you're taking a guy who's best thing is rushing, I'd rather have a Shaq Lawson or Kevin Dodd. Guys who would play a 4-down, DL role as part of the rotation, or be effective as the yearly attrition takes out the starters. (I also keep saying, there's a better than 50-50 chance JPP is gone after this year.)
If you're a base 4-3 D taking a LB at 10, it had better be a guy who's BEST THING IS LINEBACKING -- like Jack (if he slid), or Smith if he were healthy.
Floyd has the athleticism to "go sideline to sideline," but there isn't much evidence showing him do that on the highlights. I have seen NO FOOTAGE OF FLOYD COVERING ANYONE. And his run stopping looks adequate, not special.
Yeah, I know that's what's said, even though I don't recall ever seeing a 3-4 formation. But let's say it's true. It isn't often. Then you're looking at a guy -- Floyd -- who's BEST thing is clearly rushing the passer -- only getting to rush on a part-time basis. You don't (IMO) burn a 10th overall pick on that.
So in the course of a game, HOW OFTEN do you send him after the QB from the SAM position? Maybe, if he's really great at it at the NFL level, and it works, it becomes a feature on passing downs. Maybe he becomes a impact player as a specialist. But aren't we talking about the SAME ROLE/Position that made Kiwi just another guy, and Clint Sintim a wasted pick?
If the Giants base D was a 3-4, I think Floyd would be a great fit. But it isn't. And frankly, if you're taking a guy who's best thing is rushing, I'd rather have a Shaq Lawson or Kevin Dodd. Guys who would play a 4-down, DL role as part of the rotation, or be effective as the yearly attrition takes out the starters. (I also keep saying, there's a better than 50-50 chance JPP is gone after this year.)
If you're a base 4-3 D taking a LB at 10, it had better be a guy who's BEST THING IS LINEBACKING -- like Jack (if he slid), or Smith if he were healthy.
Floyd has the athleticism to "go sideline to sideline," but there isn't much evidence showing him do that on the highlights. I have seen NO FOOTAGE OF FLOYD COVERING ANYONE. And his run stopping looks adequate, not special.
the link has him in coverage on a few plays. and he is right with the man he is covering, TE or WR or RB...
Has got a non stop motor and is versatile and hits with some meanness
And has great bend and body lean oh also I believe 4.6 speed ( that qualifies as pretty good sideline to sideline speed I think ..... Have to
Start thinking outside the box this guy is perfect for today's pass happy NFL
We can hide a little deficiency at CB but we have to upgrade at LB
I agree with the scouts this guy has got 4-3 OLB written all over him.
And if it was me I'd find a way to use him like LT
Has got a non stop motor and is versatile and hits with some meanness
And has great bend and body lean oh also I believe 4.6 speed ( that qualifies as pretty good sideline to sideline speed I think ..... Have to
Start thinking outside the box this guy is perfect for today's pass happy NFL
We can hide a little deficiency at CB but we have to upgrade at LB
I agree with the scouts this guy has got 4-3 OLB written all over him.
And if it was me I'd find a way to use him like LT
The comparisons to Sintim and Kiwi are ludicrous
Fans need to stop living in the past !!!!
Posters have a tendency to take a guy who left a foul taste in their mouth and project future results based on the concept rather than the talent of the player executing that particular role.
The problem with Kiwi and Sintim in the role they tried to use them was they were not in the same stratosphere in terms of fluidity and short area quickness as Floyd. Secondly neither had a rep as being particularly adept in space/coverage in college. Floyd aside from potentially being slightly on the light side (Leonte David/Boley/Armistead etc) has shown tremendous ability to play the Kiwi /Sintim role.
His injury is still too much an unknown in terms of healing. This is not a standard AOL injury he sustained where today's success rates in full recovery are high.
Risk is still too high at 10 even for his level of talent for this team and its number of needs.
Can't really fault the guy for not having sacks if his job wasn't to rush the passer.
I watched 2 full games (Vanderbilt and Alabama) and when he lines up as an edge rusher, it almost looks like he is offside, or that all the other down linemen on both sides of the ball are in slow motion.
You simply can't teach that.
His wingspan is also a lot longer than any other linebacker, but it makes for some very different arm tackles. He usually tackles the ball carrier, but its more of a grab and throw down type of tackle without him driving through.
Jack
Floyd
Lee
any of those and Id be happy, they significantly improve the defense
I doubt you could find another high level college team that had enough confidence in one player to have him play 3 different positions in a game (inside LB in the Georgia 3-4, edge rusher, and slot coverage) on a regular basis.
I have no doubt that the opposing Offensive Coordinator each week devoted a ton of time developing a gameplan around Floyd's versatility and speed.
If Mara seriously wants a playmaker in Round 1, Floyd has to be in the Giants top row.
Especially considering the actual QB play in the SEC was so bad this past year.
Again, easy to call, he's a bust. but people don't listen.
Especially considering the actual QB play in the SEC was so bad this past year.
Again, easy to call, he's a bust. but people don't listen.
Dude football isnt that black and white. oh he is a good pass rusher blitz him EVERY play. georgia played a lot of nickel package he is asked to cover ALOT. thats the scheme. i dont see how you can just label him a bust because he was asked to cover lol...his coverage ability is awesome so they used him in as many different ways as possible. to me it says his versatility and athletic ability, it shouldnt be a knock on him
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That means he could play it but its not his ideal spot. At 10 I want a guy who already excels at the position we drafted him for. I do n know if I trust him to 1 put on weight, 2 has the ability learn to play the strong side position in a 4-3 at the pro level, 3 hope that he is able to succeed at it.
That means he could play it but its not his ideal spot. At 10 I want a guy who already excels at the position we drafted him for. I do n know if I trust him to 1 put on weight, 2 has the ability learn to play the strong side position in a 4-3 at the pro level, 3 hope that he is able to succeed at it.
Most teams arent in their base defense often man. todays NFL has DCs showing multiple over and under fronts. spags will probably show a ton of different looks and floyd will be all over. the simple well he isnt a SAM or a WILL doesnt always apply. the kid can play. you put him all over and ask a lot of him, athletically he is clearly gifted
And why did Georgia play him at ILB so much of the time last year
We need to start thinking outside the box & stop using position labels. Tyrann Mathieu, Deone Buchanon, Jamie Collins etc etc don't have true positions, but they are dominant football players. We need versatility. Floyd is the most versatile player on Defense as soon as he is drafted.
His coaches/scheme sucked that's why he doesn't have great production. Odell averaged 780 yards & 4 TDs in college. Should we have not taken him? That's not good production at all.
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for someone who is supposed to be so bad against the run, Auburn sure did run AWAY from floyd often
And why did Georgia play him at ILB so much of the time last year
he is versatile
They moved him all over and he was a vital part of a defense that got crazy pressure on QBs which allowed them to cover up for a very inexperienced set of DBs.
Like Yankee said, when asked to rush from the edge he displayed special skills. Skills that will work in the NFL.
Of all the guys being talked about in the press for the Giants, Floyd is my favorite. It would be an exciting addition (and I believe instant impact player) to the defense.
I don't know if you watched the tape on the Vanderbilt game in that slide show, coach, but that one play when he covers the slot receiver 30 yards downfield is damn impressive
After watching the tape, I'm sold. The only thing is that he seems like a classic 3-4 LB. If the Giants take him, makes you wonder about their plans.
Do they let Hankin walk, make Snacks the NT and switch Bromley to DE in some sort of hybrid 3-4/4-3 or maybe switch to 3-4 altogether?
Old BBI thread, some thoughts on Floyd - ( New Window )
They moved him all over and he was a vital part of a defense that got crazy pressure on QBs which allowed them to cover up for a very inexperienced set of DBs.
Like Yankee said, when asked to rush from the edge he displayed special skills. Skills that will work in the NFL.
Of all the guys being talked about in the press for the Giants, Floyd is my favorite. It would be an exciting addition (and I believe instant impact player) to the defense.
I would love to be sold on him. Yes, his athletic ability is eyebrow raising. Yes, I love that he is tall and can run with wideouts if need be (wonder if using him against guy like Dez or AJ Green inside the 10 would happen). But KWALL and others, have you watched him play the run? In that Vandy tape, his lack of aggression and sensing how the play developed was evident to say the least. He was constantly chasing, easily quarantined by blockers, taking bad angles to the runner's path and arm tackling. I just have a very hard time taking a DE/LB like that at 10.
A lot of the attributes I've listed are fine for WILL. But I hate drafting "athletes".
I find myself torn between the idea of Floyd at 10, and trading back for an extra 2nd or 3rd. The two players I like the most by round are Floyd in 1 and vonn bell in 2. I think a decent WR can be had in round 3. I just worry about RT. I don't like the idea of taking an OT in round 1, but if the Giants want a young guy to come in and play, he's probably going to have to be selected before round 4.
I find myself torn between the idea of Floyd at 10, and trading back for an extra 2nd or 3rd. The two players I like the most by round are Floyd in 1 and vonn bell in 2. I think a decent WR can be had in round 3. I just worry about RT. I don't like the idea of taking an OT in round 1, but if the Giants want a young guy to come in and play, he's probably going to have to be selected before round 4.
I like Floyd a lot - he's going to be an impact player for us -- and I think the talent level of the first round drops after the first 10 picks if yo include the 2 QBs -- I think you have to go with an uber talent like him as opposed to trading back - because the players you get in trading back are less likely to have the same kind of impact --- It's a process we are not going to solve all our problems with a snappity snap snap
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This is the guy for the role they envisioned for Kiwi(and more). Do it all LB, side line to side line paly the run, rush passers-by from multiple angles,play zone and even cover TEs and RBS one on one.
I don't know if you watched the tape on the Vanderbilt game in that slide show, coach, but that one play when he covers the slot receiver 30 yards downfield is damn impressive
After watching the tape, I'm sold. The only thing is that he seems like a classic 3-4 LB. If the Giants take him, makes you wonder about their plans.
Do they let Hankin walk, make Snacks the NT and switch Bromley to DE in some sort of hybrid 3-4/4-3 or maybe switch to 3-4 altogether?
I don't think he's covering slot receivers in the pros but yeah that was a great indicator of this guy's athleticsm and fluidity at 6'5 230+ lbs (now 245)
Get this kid in that Kiwi role and we may finally see the impact a player with freakish talent can make from that position.
Tampa supposedly likes Conklin and Hargreaves quite a bit too.
You're not wrong, he looks pretty avg against fucking Vanderbilt.
I really want to like his potential, but I want a football player first. And he doesn't strike me as being strong enough at the POA.
The author is barely old enough to drink but he did attend U Tennessee and cover SEC football for his career path.
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I think Spags could make up a bunch of ways to maximize Floyd's talent to rush the passer or drop into coverage. I think he'd be best as a WILL.
i think the big problem people are having with him is there isn't an easy comparison. i see a lot of aldon smith in his game although he's obviously no where near as heavy
I hear the critics about him at SLB. He has the physical tools and has good coverage ability, what about him playing WLB? His current lack of power may not be such an issue plus he can use his speed and athleticism in space.
Why not keep Kennard at SLB with Floyd at WLB outside of Vernon.
He is good against the run to the outside. When they ran at him, he made the tackle but usually backed up a yard or two rather than moving up and filling the whole.
He is obviously not an ILB at the next level. Rick brought up that scouts see him as a 4-3 OLB. I just don't see it. He is best at rushing the passer from the outside just off the LOS like Aldon Smith or Demarcus Ware. He actually reminds me of LT in the way he lines up on either side of the LOS and pursues from behind. He obviously does not have LT's strength but he tries to play the game the same way. And he definitely plays to the whistle and does not take plays off. I like him.
So in the course of a game, HOW OFTEN do you send him after the QB from the SAM position? Maybe, if he's really great at it at the NFL level, and it works, it becomes a feature on passing downs. Maybe he becomes a impact player as a specialist. But aren't we talking about the SAME ROLE/Position that made Kiwi just another guy, and Clint Sintim a wasted pick?
If the Giants base D was a 3-4, I think Floyd would be a great fit. But it isn't. And frankly, if you're taking a guy who's best thing is rushing, I'd rather have a Shaq Lawson or Kevin Dodd. Guys who would play a 4-down, DL role as part of the rotation, or be effective as the yearly attrition takes out the starters. (I also keep saying, there's a better than 50-50 chance JPP is gone after this year.)
If you're a base 4-3 D taking a LB at 10, it had better be a guy who's BEST THING IS LINEBACKING -- like Jack (if he slid), or Smith if he were healthy.
Floyd has the athleticism to "go sideline to sideline," but there isn't much evidence showing him do that on the highlights. I have seen NO FOOTAGE OF FLOYD COVERING ANYONE. And his run stopping looks adequate, not special.
So in the course of a game, HOW OFTEN do you send him after the QB from the SAM position? Maybe, if he's really great at it at the NFL level, and it works, it becomes a feature on passing downs. Maybe he becomes a impact player as a specialist. But aren't we talking about the SAME ROLE/Position that made Kiwi just another guy, and Clint Sintim a wasted pick?
If the Giants base D was a 3-4, I think Floyd would be a great fit. But it isn't. And frankly, if you're taking a guy who's best thing is rushing, I'd rather have a Shaq Lawson or Kevin Dodd. Guys who would play a 4-down, DL role as part of the rotation, or be effective as the yearly attrition takes out the starters. (I also keep saying, there's a better than 50-50 chance JPP is gone after this year.)
If you're a base 4-3 D taking a LB at 10, it had better be a guy who's BEST THING IS LINEBACKING -- like Jack (if he slid), or Smith if he were healthy.
Floyd has the athleticism to "go sideline to sideline," but there isn't much evidence showing him do that on the highlights. I have seen NO FOOTAGE OF FLOYD COVERING ANYONE. And his run stopping looks adequate, not special.
the link has him in coverage on a few plays. and he is right with the man he is covering, TE or WR or RB...
And has great bend and body lean oh also I believe 4.6 speed ( that qualifies as pretty good sideline to sideline speed I think ..... Have to
Start thinking outside the box this guy is perfect for today's pass happy NFL
We can hide a little deficiency at CB but we have to upgrade at LB
I agree with the scouts this guy has got 4-3 OLB written all over him.
And if it was me I'd find a way to use him like LT
The comparisons to Sintim and Kiwi are ludicrous
Fans need to stop living in the past !!!!
And has great bend and body lean oh also I believe 4.6 speed ( that qualifies as pretty good sideline to sideline speed I think ..... Have to
Start thinking outside the box this guy is perfect for today's pass happy NFL
We can hide a little deficiency at CB but we have to upgrade at LB
I agree with the scouts this guy has got 4-3 OLB written all over him.
And if it was me I'd find a way to use him like LT
The comparisons to Sintim and Kiwi are ludicrous
Fans need to stop living in the past !!!!
Posters have a tendency to take a guy who left a foul taste in their mouth and project future results based on the concept rather than the talent of the player executing that particular role.
The problem with Kiwi and Sintim in the role they tried to use them was they were not in the same stratosphere in terms of fluidity and short area quickness as Floyd. Secondly neither had a rep as being particularly adept in space/coverage in college. Floyd aside from potentially being slightly on the light side (Leonte David/Boley/Armistead etc) has shown tremendous ability to play the Kiwi /Sintim role.
Risk is still too high at 10 even for his level of talent for this team and its number of needs.