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Go on record Floyd - yea or nay

gidiefor : Mod : 4/19/2016 5:51 pm
Team Captain
Great Edge Rushing Moves
Great Burst
Smart
Unusual Coverage Weapon

I vote yea
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All go yea, although originally I was shocked when I heard that  
Ira : 4/19/2016 5:53 pm : link
the Giants were considering him. Then I found out he put on about 15 lbs since the end of the season and still maintained his athletic ability - and I felt better about it.
Nay  
illmatic : 4/19/2016 5:55 pm : link
Not at 10, anyway. Trade down 4 or 5 spots and if he's there, sure.
Nay  
bigblue12 : 4/19/2016 5:55 pm : link
more athlete than football player. Doesn't have a real position and is already 24. Giants need good football players, not projects.
Is there any doubt  
Mike B from JC : 4/19/2016 5:56 pm : link
That I'm a yay? For all the reasons you mentioned above gidie. If I have to go through another year of watching rb and te torch us, I'm going to start breaking things. Floyd, would solve those issues. Time to help the d through the draft.
Solid  
RetroJint : 4/19/2016 5:58 pm : link
No
Yay  
allstarjim : 4/19/2016 5:59 pm : link
All the way
I say
Can't wait to watch him play
Is this post... dumb?
Yea  
huygens20 : 4/19/2016 5:59 pm : link
My only concern is that if he's a OLB in a 43 that he's not given enough opportunities to make plays.

But I endorse him over any RT
I'm on record saying I wouldn't be a fan on a different thread but  
Saos1n : 4/19/2016 5:59 pm : link
I have changed my mind since then... He could be a weapon... We haven't had one of those in a while
He's certainly not a safe choice...  
Milton : 4/19/2016 6:01 pm : link
...But I'm not gonna pretend to know better than the coaches and scouting department. So you'll get neither a "yea" or "nay" out of me.
Yea  
Rjanyg : 4/19/2016 6:02 pm : link
I think he is going to be a stud
RE: Nay  
GuzzaBlue : 4/19/2016 6:02 pm : link
In comment 12910336 bigblue12 said:
Quote:
more athlete than football player. Doesn't have a real position and is already 24. Giants need good football players, not projects.


He turns 24 in September, that shouldn't be a concern. If he has 7-8 year career (league average I'm guessing tops) then he'll be 31.
Yes  
AcidTest : 4/19/2016 6:02 pm : link
He can cover and rush the passer. That’s what we need.
Yea  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 4/19/2016 6:03 pm : link
I for one am not going to say 'nay' to taking a kick ass LBer in round 1. Years of ignoring the position and he may be there at 10, I pull the trigger. He may not be a HOF LBer but I'd take him.
Nay  
Rambo : 4/19/2016 6:03 pm : link
He seems to have great abilities but the Giants never draft a linebacker that soon they usually go Cornerback, DL or O-Line.
No clue  
AP in Halfmoon : 4/19/2016 6:05 pm : link
He looks like a playmaker to me but what do I know.
Yea  
JPinstripes : 4/19/2016 6:05 pm : link
Another pass rusher to team and complement Vernon and JPP attacking the opposing QB from all directions.
Did not yet read  
mrvax : 4/19/2016 6:08 pm : link
all the posts in this thread.

I say, "Yea" because I see Floyd's floor as a 3rd down pass rush specialist. That's a big need for our Giants. Remember how the D had games the last few years where they could not get off the field? That ends when you draft this 24 year old kid.
Great ER moves?  
bigbluehoya : 4/19/2016 6:09 pm : link
He's said himself that his weakness is a lack of ER moves. All he's got right now is the outside speed rush.

I've warmed to the little pick a little bit of late, but I'll still say "Nay" at 10.

I do think he'll be the pick, but I'd prefer to go a little safer.
Yay all the way....  
GuzzaBlue : 4/19/2016 6:09 pm : link
I've been talking him up a lot on BBI over the past week. It took me a while to warm up to the idea because I don't normally like these tweener types, however:

Watch the tape of him rushing the passer (only 50% of his college snaps - you will forget about his low sack numbers) - He is an absolute menace. There was a SEC game can't remember, where he didn't register a sack and basically took over the game. The QB was running scared half the game and he forced a pick 6. He can also cover and will fly sideline to sideline to make plays. I will not endorse him taking on blocks, but weak-side alignment will hopefully mask some of that.

I just can't help to think on 3rd down when we are up in games (like last year and fell apart)...Floyd Vernon JPP OWA GO GET EM'

I'll be the first to admit I was wrong if he is a bust.
After initial reservations  
LI NHB : 4/19/2016 6:09 pm : link
I will go on record as a yes.

JPP
Height - 6'5"
Weight- 270lbs
Arms - 34 3/4"
Hands - 10 3/8"
40 yd. - 4.78

Floyd
Height - 6'6"
Weight - 244lbs
Arms- 10 1/8"
40 yd. - 4.60

He's an impressive human and guys like this can make it happen.
Nay  
ZogZerg : 4/19/2016 6:10 pm : link
Too skinny.
Seems like a situational player. I'd rather have a full time player at #10.

He seems like a guy you take a chance on later in the draft.
yea  
Eric on Li : 4/19/2016 6:11 pm : link
he's not plan A by any means, but they could do worse. His pass rush ability is obvious and even if he ultimately ends up just being a 3rd down edge rusher there's tremendous value in that. Out of Ranaan's 10 most likely picks I personally prefer almost all of them (except picking a RB) but if the Giants think this guy is going to be a player I'm not going to "throw the remote" because he shares similarities with previous guys who busted like B. Mingo and D. Jordan.
I'm on the Clock.  
GMen23 : 4/19/2016 6:11 pm : link
I want him more then Hargreaves, but I would go Conklin or Stanley before him.
Whoops.  
LI NHB : 4/19/2016 6:11 pm : link
Floyd
Height - 6'6"
Weight - 244lbs
Arms - 33 1/8"
Hands - 10 1/8"
40 yd. - 4.60
yea  
Vanzetti : 4/19/2016 6:12 pm : link
my only concern is his age
Running Tally  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/19/2016 6:14 pm : link
Through LI NHB

Nineteen Votes

Yea 13
Nay 6


Can't Make Up Their Mind 2
Nay and I might ad that Walter Football thinks he will go to Tampa  
wgenesis123 : 4/19/2016 6:15 pm : link
at 9. Supposedly Charlie has inside info.
Sorry - I'm on the fence on this one and leaning towards "no"  
mavric : 4/19/2016 6:16 pm : link
I like taking risks, and I know the risk is lower for Floyd than say a player coming off an ACL or other bad injury. But I prefer taking risks at the back end of the draft and then hope and pray for a big reward.

The 10 spot in the draft should come away with a damned sure thing (healthy history, size for role, NFL ready, etc) for the next few years and maybe more. If we take Floyd with that high spot and he doesn't pan out in the NFL because of his thin build and no designated position would definitely spell the end of Reese. Not sure he is willing to take any risk right now.
RE: yea  
LI NHB : 4/19/2016 6:17 pm : link
In comment 12910364 Vanzetti said:
Quote:
my only concern is his age


Agreed on this. But given the nature of NFL contracts and the frequency of ultra-young players needing a year or 2 to grow, i've grown to care less about this.
Nay.  
Klaatu : 4/19/2016 6:18 pm : link
...
RE: Nay and I might ad that Walter Football thinks he will go to Tampa  
Rjanyg : 4/19/2016 6:18 pm : link
In comment 12910366 wgenesis123 said:
Quote:
at 9. Supposedly Charlie has inside info.


My biggest fear. Not sure who I would want if that happens
by the way  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/19/2016 6:19 pm : link
you are not counted as voting if you can't make up your mind

through mavric
21 votes

Yea 14
Nay 7


Wafflers 3
Hell NO  
dk in TX : 4/19/2016 6:19 pm : link
.
I've gone from a hard nay to a soft nay  
Andy in Halifax : 4/19/2016 6:21 pm : link
I'm more of a - trade down to 20 and take him? Sure. Stay at 10? Nah.

I worry about the lack of physicality and tackling ability but love the coverage ability and first step.
through Andy  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/19/2016 6:25 pm : link
24 votes cast

Yea 14
Nay 10


Wafflers 3
Definitely a Yay  
Peppers : 4/19/2016 6:25 pm : link
I was all about Floyd before the countless topics and repetitive arguments about him. Talk about beating a dead horse.

Im still all for him.
Definitely  
Marty866b : 4/19/2016 6:25 pm : link
No!
Nay  
Phil in LA : 4/19/2016 6:25 pm : link
too old and can't tackle, though I do understand that they think they can bring him from all over, he cannot be the inhouse replacement for JPP, if JPP bolts in `17. And any first round passrusher should at least be that.
Yay  
Bleedin Blue : 4/19/2016 6:26 pm : link
Which more than likely mean he's not our pick. I'd like to add this little slice of reality. WTF do I know I'm just a fan lol! Go Giants!
through Bleeding Blue  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/19/2016 6:27 pm : link
28 votes cast

Yea 16
Nay 12


Wafflers 3
Absolute NO  
Red Dog : 4/19/2016 6:28 pm : link
.
nay  
Glover : 4/19/2016 6:29 pm : link
thank you
YEA  
tomjgiant : 4/19/2016 6:30 pm : link
He could be just what this defense has been missing.
Nay  
shyster : 4/19/2016 6:32 pm : link
If he'd grown up somewhere else, he might be playing in the NBA, where he belongs.
Nay  
superspynyg : 4/19/2016 6:32 pm : link
I just see more value elsewhere for pick 10 ( ol,db,de,other Lber,)
Yea, and hope Ifedi there in 2nd  
joeinct : 4/19/2016 6:36 pm : link
If not one of the stud DT's who probably fell.
Nay  
Carl in CT : 4/19/2016 6:36 pm : link
Until I see at least 20 reps on the bench.
Yeah  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 4/19/2016 6:43 pm : link
along with two or three other guys...
Nay Nay...  
MOOPS : 4/19/2016 6:43 pm : link
.
through Carl  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/19/2016 6:44 pm : link
36 votes cast

Yea 18
Nay 18


Wafflers 3
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