Go on record Floyd - yea or nay

114 votes

Yea 62
Nay 52


Dante's Inferno 4

(at 40)

At first yes, but changed to No. Don't want to draft someone at 10 for a hybrid role... or a tweener... it never seems to work when guys get drafted then have to bulk up... I'm over it.

I won't throw the remote if we draft him, but for the purposes of this poll it is a definite no.

I think he would be better suited in 3-4 scheme.
Said this about Mosley a few years ago, and he plays
in a 3-4 scheme.

115 votes

Yea 62
Nay 53


Dante's Inferno 4

117 votes

Yea 62
Nay 55


Dante's Inferno 4

for reasons stated on Raanan's thread by myself, JohnVB, and the like. Too much bust potential on multiple points.

118 votes

Yea 62
Nay 56


Dante's Inferno 4

are pretty disappointing -- the one thing I will note is that the vast majority of the plays in that game seemed to be going away from Floyd and he maintained position

This is totally superficial, but the guy reminds me of Randy Gregory (or Aaron Maybin) - another guy who would be a bad pick at 10 (would have been bad at 9 last year) even before the pot stuff. His age is also a major concern.

If he were 20, you could safely project more physical development in the necessary direction than you can with a 23-year-old.

119 votes

Yea 62
Nay 57


Dante's Inferno 4

Can't add anymore than whats already been said .
Jerry goes with a safer pick and it has to fill
a hole .

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In comment 12911353 micky said:

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Micky -- can't vote twice

I trust the Giants in the first round, but I don't trust their ability to grade linebackers ever.

Floyd makes me nervous. I think I'd rather have Treadwell than Floyd. Less questions.

Nay to Floyd.

In comment 12910963 PatersonPlank said:

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This was a Nay by the way.

In comment 12911450 gidiefor said:

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In comment 12911353 micky said: Quote: . Micky -- can't vote twice

Just had to whip...and a nay nay

Doesn't really have a position, wasn't hugely productive in college.

Nay; there's just something about him I am uncomfortable with and even I can't pinpoint it. Not a remote-throw pick but I will be disappointed.
However, if that's who they pick, I'm behind him.

Speak up if you need to

122 Votes

Yea – 63 (52%)
Nay – 59 (48%)
Whimps – 5

Yea
1. gidiefor
2. Ira
3. Mike B from JC
4. allstarjim
5. huygens20
6. Saos1n
7. Rjanyg
8. AcidTest
9. Bold Ruler
10. JPinstripes
11. mrvax
12. GuzzaBlue
13. LI NHB
14. Eric on Li
15. GMen23
16. Vanzetti
17. Peppers
18. Bleedin Blue
19. tomjgiant
20. joeinct
21. Peter from NH
22. FatHeadTommy
23. Nomad Crow on the Madison
24. Big Rick in FL
25. David in LA
26. KWALL2
27. Gmen108021
28. NikkiMac
29. muhajir
30. SomeFan
31. Eli Wilson
32. jeff57
33. Big Rick in FL
34. Joe in CT
35. GmenNYC
36. CaptSehorn
37. ryanmkeane
38. Ed A.
39. Del Shofner
40. geelabee
41. Coach Mason
42. Mdgiantsfan
43. blueblood
44. Vin R
45. slickwilly
46. beatrixkiddo
47. GiantsLaw
48. Giantgator
49. GMen108021
50. Makogman
51. ij_reilly
52. OBJ31
53. Jim in Tampa
54. j_rud
55. HughS
56. JCin332
57. George from PA
58. Jesse B
59. pa_giant_fan
60. SanFranNowNCGiantsFan
61. Beer Man
62. Curtin in VA
63. Tom in Kzoo

Nay
1. Illmatic
2. Bigblue12
3. RetroJint
4. Rambo
5. Bigbluehoya
6. ZogZerg
7. Wgenesis123
8. Klaatu
9. dk in TX
10. Andy in Halifax
11. Marty866b
12. Phil in LA
13. Red Dog
14. Glover
15. shyster
16. superspynyg
17. Carl in CT
18. MOOPS
19. Jim Burt64
20. phil in Arizona
21. Mark from Jersey
22. Thegratefulhead
23. JohnVB
24. Go Terps
25. idiotsavant
26. Patrick77
27. dust_bowl
28. speedywheels
29. TMS
30. Jimmy Googs
31. jeremysgiants
32. xman
33. The_Boss
34. Reb8thVA
35. Danny Kanell
36. Kanavis
37. fivehead
38. SirYesSIr
39. Anakim
40. compton
41. poster who shall go unnamed
42. colin
43. PatersonPlank
44. Dragon
45. BigBlueCane
46. micky
47. bc4life
48. mikey6480
49. Victor in CT
50. BlueHurricane
51. Jay on the Island
52. Randy in CT
53. Pascal4554
54. Carson53
55. JonC
56. RB^2
57. Bluesbreaker
58. Ten Ton Hammer
59. Greg from LI

Whimps
1. Milton
2. AP in Halfmoon
3. Mavric
4. Torrag
5. Madgianscow009

you can blame micky for the list -- he pointed out that folks could vote twice so I defined the votes - old man -- I'll add you later - and anyone else who chimes in

In comment 12911638 gidiefor said:

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you can blame micky for the list -- he pointed out that folks could vote twice so I defined the votes - old man -- I'll add you later - and anyone else who chimes in

and Torrag -- I couldn;t nail you down -- so make a definitive statement and I'll move you

I interpreted your remarks as well

So my vote would be NAY.

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He'll bust.

125 Votes

Yea – 64 (51%)
Nay – 61 (49%)
Whimps – 5

Yea
1. gidiefor
2. Ira
3. Mike B from JC
4. allstarjim
5. huygens20
6. Saos1n
7. Rjanyg
8. AcidTest
9. Bold Ruler
10. JPinstripes
11. mrvax
12. GuzzaBlue
13. LI NHB
14. Eric on Li
15. GMen23
16. Vanzetti
17. Peppers
18. Bleedin Blue
19. tomjgiant
20. joeinct
21. Peter from NH
22. FatHeadTommy
23. Nomad Crow on the Madison
24. Big Rick in FL
25. David in LA
26. KWALL2
27. Gmen108021
28. NikkiMac
29. muhajir
30. SomeFan
31. Eli Wilson
32. jeff57
33. Big Rick in FL
34. Joe in CT
35. GmenNYC
36. CaptSehorn
37. ryanmkeane
38. Ed A.
39. Del Shofner
40. geelabee
41. Coach Mason
42. Mdgiantsfan
43. blueblood
44. Vin R
45. slickwilly
46. beatrixkiddo
47. GiantsLaw
48. Giantgator
49. GMen108021
50. Makogman
51. ij_reilly
52. OBJ31
53. Jim in Tampa
54. j_rud
55. HughS
56. JCin332
57. George from PA
58. Jesse B
59. pa_giant_fan
60. SanFranNowNCGiantsFan
61. Beer Man
62. Curtin in VA
63. Tom in Kzoo
64. Brandon Walsh

Nay
1. Illmatic
2. Bigblue12
3. RetroJint
4. Rambo
5. Bigbluehoya
6. ZogZerg
7. Wgenesis123
8. Klaatu
9. dk in TX
10. Andy in Halifax
11. Marty866b
12. Phil in LA
13. Red Dog
14. Glover
15. shyster
16. superspynyg
17. Carl in CT
18. MOOPS
19. Jim Burt64
20. phil in Arizona
21. Mark from Jersey
22. Thegratefulhead
23. JohnVB
24. Go Terps
25. idiotsavant
26. Patrick77
27. dust_bowl
28. speedywheels
29. TMS
30. Jimmy Googs
31. jeremysgiants
32. xman
33. The_Boss
34. Reb8thVA
35. Danny Kanell
36. Kanavis
37. fivehead
38. SirYesSIr
39. Anakim
40. compton
41. poster who shall go unnamed
42. colin
43. PatersonPlank
44. Dragon
45. BigBlueCane
46. micky
47. bc4life
48. mikey6480
49. Victor in CT
50. BlueHurricane
51. Jay on the Island
52. Randy in CT
53. Pascal4554
54. Carson53
55. JonC
56. RB^2
57. Bluesbreaker
58. Ten Ton Hammer
59. Greg from LI
60. old man
61. Watson

Whimps
1. Milton
2. AP in Halfmoon
3. mavric
4. Torrag
5. madgiantscow009

On the no side. Surprising so many of them are getting this wrong ;)

so I am a HUGE no on this guy. No way, no how, no chance, no money.

and he's a Saban guy.

Saban SPECIFICALLY structures his defenses to hide weaknesses and highlight strengths, which is why his players removed from that system, tend to bust in the NFL.

Pruit had Floyd dropping into coverage more often then anything else. That was his strength, not a pass rusher, not a physical mis-match, etc...

He's a coverage linebacker that's tall, that's all he is.

In comment 12912057 BigBlueCane said:

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and he's a Saban guy. Saban SPECIFICALLY structures his defenses to hide weaknesses and highlight strengths, which is why his players removed from that system, tend to bust in the NFL. Pruit had Floyd dropping into coverage more often then anything else. That was his strength, not a pass rusher, not a physical mis-match, etc... He's a coverage linebacker that's tall, that's all he is.

He has pretty good bend for a 6'6" guy. He says himself he needs to learn a couple more moves but of the video on youtube, right now he can dip to the outside, counter inside and stunt to the inside. I'll take that from a rookie LB.

Just a ridiculous take on how And why Floyd was used at Georgia and his skills.

He rushed the passer a lot and he was extremely effective. That isn't debateable. You want to knock the guy run d, lack of strength, concern about finding a position...that's a legit concern. But saying he wasn't a pass rush and just a coverage LB is not.

gets closer and closer, I can't help but feel more every day that Reese is going to draft Floyd if available. I'm sure the team wants that great pass rush back and Floyd can certainly help there.

The fact that he can provide coverage is just a bonus that I don't think Reese can pass up.

Think about Vernon-Hankins-Snacks-JPP and Floyd coming at you on 3rd down.

If the Giants draft him I'll be happy with the pick. It will be called a reach and there is a lot of risk with the pick. Every first round pick can't be the safe one and the Giants have been aggressive in free agency and expect we will see that in the draft.

128 Votes

Yea – 65 (51%)
Nay – 63 (49%)
Whimps – 5

Yea
1. gidiefor
2. Ira
3. Mike B from JC
4. allstarjim
5. huygens20
6. Saos1n
7. Rjanyg
8. AcidTest
9. Bold Ruler
10. JPinstripes
11. mrvax
12. GuzzaBlue
13. LI NHB
14. Eric on Li
15. GMen23
16. Vanzetti
17. Peppers
18. Bleedin Blue
19. tomjgiant
20. joeinct
21. Peter from NH
22. FatHeadTommy
23. Nomad Crow on the Madison
24. Big Rick in FL
25. David in LA
26. KWALL2
27. Gmen108021
28. NikkiMac
29. muhajir
30. SomeFan
31. Eli Wilson
32. jeff57
33. Big Rick in FL
34. Joe in CT
35. GmenNYC
36. CaptSehorn
37. ryanmkeane
38. Ed A.
39. Del Shofner
40. geelabee
41. Coach Mason
42. Mdgiantsfan
43. blueblood
44. Vin R
45. slickwilly
46. beatrixkiddo
47. GiantsLaw
48. Giantgator
49. GMen108021
50. Makogman
51. ij_reilly
52. OBJ31
53. Jim in Tampa
54. j_rud
55. HughS
56. JCin332
57. George from PA
58. Jesse B
59. pa_giant_fan
60. SanFranNowNCGiantsFan
61. Beer Man
62. Curtin in VA
63. Tom in Kzoo
64. Brandon Walsh
65. The Tempest

Nay
1. Illmatic
2. Bigblue12
3. RetroJint
4. Rambo
5. Bigbluehoya
6. ZogZerg
7. Wgenesis123
8. Klaatu
9. dk in TX
10. Andy in Halifax
11. Marty866b
12. Phil in LA
13. Red Dog
14. Glover
15. shyster
16. superspynyg
17. Carl in CT
18. MOOPS
19. Jim Burt64
20. phil in Arizona
21. Mark from Jersey
22. Thegratefulhead
23. JohnVB
24. Go Terps
25. idiotsavant
26. Patrick77
27. dust_bowl
28. speedywheels
29. TMS
30. Jimmy Googs
31. jeremysgiants
32. xman
33. The_Boss
34. Reb8thVA
35. Danny Kanell
36. Kanavis
37. fivehead
38. SirYesSIr
39. Anakim
40. compton
41. poster who shall go unnamed
42. colin
43. PatersonPlank
44. Dragon
45. BigBlueCane
46. micky
47. bc4life
48. mikey6480
49. Victor in CT
50. BlueHurricane
51. Jay on the Island
52. Randy in CT
53. Pascal4554
54. Carson53
55. JonC
56. RB^2
57. Bluesbreaker
58. Ten Ton Hammer
59. Greg from LI
60. old man
61. Watson
62. KerrysFlask
63. dep026

Whimps
1. Milton
2. AP in Halfmoon
3. mavric
4. Torrag
5. madgiantscow009

Hell no

Hell no

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Hell no

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A linebacker who sucks at the PoA is simply not acceptable as the first LBer this team selects on the 1st since decades.

We're clearly looking for another Carl Banks which is fine because he was great at his peak. But Floyd hasn't shown anywhere near the toughness/strength to be that guy.


YES, the pass rush/coverage skills are intriguing. But he's not Exactly great at both areas. Great outside speed rush potential with that dip and 1st step, but his absolute lack of power limits his options as a pass rusher significantly. And everyone here loves his coverage skills yet he made NOTHING happen in coverage in college. He forced opponents into making harder catches... Yet they still made catches.

0 INTs and 4 Passes Defended in 3 years of college... OMG What an awesome coverage backer!!!!

This pick is Jerry Reese's baby, and if he loves Floyd enough to draft him I'll root for the kid until he's not on this team anymore. I'll hope he proves me wrong. But no thanks... Again.

has had some interesting posts lately. Hitting the bottle early again my friend?

as to how the Beckham pick was viewed -- the nays on this thread were also the nays when it came to Beckham -- lol -- it's totally comforting
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...for many of the reasons stated already!
just too darn risky!

Too much risk at 10 for me. Not seeing the coverage skills that everyone says he has- just the speed to keep up.

... its like Pascal's wager.

The downside if a yay is less than a nay. If you say yay, and the chap is a bust, well it happens. If you say nay and they end up in th HOF, that seems worse.

so, yay

NO...NO...NO

AS IN BIG YEA ALL CAPS

he prefers Floyd to JAck

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He's going to be a heck of a player.

Yea
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