Anyone Else Concerned About Ben McAdoo?

Handley was a position coach his entire career with the Giants. They just promoted him to offensive coordinator after the 1990 Super Bowl and Parcells resigned 2 months later. The Giants felt they were grooming him anyway, so they made him the head coach. But all the offensive game planning had been done by Ron Erhardt, who was a former head coach. And to be honest, the Giants offense was not the dominant unit on the team at the time.

McAdoo has had 2 years as the offensive coordinator and Eli's production has gotten better (having OBJ helps). McAdoo is better prepared than Handley was. And if you ever saw a press conference with Handley, McAdoo was much better on day 1 than Handley ever did in his 2 seasons.

would be a concern unless it was a Cowher..It can go either way. I choose to be positive

He has surrounded himself with a good staff. IMO - The measure of a good head coach is how they do when things are going bad. Can they turn it around? Looking forward to a fresh approach.

Head coach is like a CEO... you pretty much have to be all things to all people. I have no problem with him as a x's and o's guy, a play caller, or offensive mind. I'm hoping he knows how to rally guys, to lead guys through adversity, to inspire or give the kick in the ass when warranted. Or to bring organization and standards if there is locker room dysfunction. That's what I don't know about, but there's nothing to lead me to believe that he can't do all those things... just haven't seen it yet.

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I also can't help but notice when anyone's asked about him nobody really gives a ringing endorsement.

Whenever a player is asked about McAdoo, they all give strong endorsements. Check some of the transcript threads from today.

the complex when you are getting the rest of the insider info.

In comment 12914625 mrvax said:

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Quote: I also can't help but notice when anyone's asked about him nobody really gives a ringing endorsement. Whenever a player is asked about McAdoo, they all give strong endorsements. Check some of the transcript threads from today.

Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy sing his praises

I am not freaking out about it, but how could one not be concerned about the possibility that someone with zero experience as an NFL HC may not pan out?

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He is the brain behind the offense and he will know how to manage the clock and should make good decisions on that side of the ball. He will have a learning curve of course, but I dont feel concerned about his ability to do the job well. I heard today how the Browns are already inspired by Hugh Jackson, and I haven't heard anything out of the Giants facility like that about McAdoo, and it would be better to hear stuff like that, but i have always felt in today's NFL, most of the leadership comes from players. Eli has always been a lead by example guy, not exactly a guy who is going to motivate others outside of the way that he plays. A coach motivating guys as early as team work outs is positive, and McAdoo may not be that guy, but I wouldnt consider myself concerned.

Can't say I give a shit about any other opinions coming out of that locker room.

Only 2 years experience as an Offensive coordinator. Never been a head coach before, at any level.

Inherited a gutted team thanks to the actions of Jerry Reese.
A GM who is under the gun and subject to being canned at the end of this season. More holes than swiss cheese and not enough available FA talent and draft picks to fill the holes this year.

No emotional leadership on the team.

A defensive coordinator who wanted the head coach job, and may not have the same magic as he did in the previous stint with the NYG.

Yeah, I am concerned that Men McAdoo is a head coach too early and is dealing with a very poor deck of cards.

In 2-3 years he may be ready, but the next two years have a dark forecast.

there's no percentage in sweating about it. If he sucks, we'll suck. Nothing we can do about it. You might as well be optimistic.

But this...

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No emotional leadership on the team.

Should not be one of them.

In comment 12914632 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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the complex when you are getting the rest of the insider info.

+1

Can be worse than the coach he's replacing from the last 3 years. Anyone John Mara interviewed would be an upgrade

I guess he can't really make that unit any worse than what it was last season.

He's got experienced coordinators working for him too. No big changes in scheme either. I'm most concerned with his game management as a rookie HC and his ability to challenge calls, etc. I'm sure he'll be very prepared, as that's his forte, as well. He'll get better, as will every rookie/inexperienced guy would.

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The mere fact that he does not give 2 shits about how he looks in a suit alone made him rise 5 notches in my book

you know absolutely nothing about him, most on here don't including myself. I have faith in our FO that they felt he was the best candidate for the future of this franchise.

...in April, you may need a life. Oh yeah, it would be hard to be worse than his predecessor these past few years, so he has that going for him, which is nice.

Not a bit. New chapter. Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.

deal and has.

Cowher is so overrated around here.

not one bit..

In comment 12914870 Randy in CT said:

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Not a bit. New chapter. Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.

^^^This FTW

The s'mores are ready.

some coaches have leadership and guys will fall behind them and perform, some will just ignore them and become losers and collect their money. We will find out soon.

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He may not make it through 16 games.

Three years ago my son played golf with the man who had been the trainer for the Chiefs. He told my son then the players liked Coughlin but they had stopped listening.

True, I don t know. But he certainly was more connected to the NFL than the average guy. As it turns out, they were three pretty lousy years.

MacAdoo is a good change not a scary one.

to retire the phrase "evolution not revolution" at some point.

IN worrying about it. He's the man now. Ya gotta start somewhere. I think the naysayers around here may be pleasantly
suprised this year. Always a 1/2 full kinda guy concerning the Giants.

Coughlin was hired by Wellington Mara.

Unknown territory. Will just have to ride it out. Expect some growing pains.

I don't plan to mke up my mind until second season. My take is first year Head Coaches have an advantage, since opponents don't have a full season of information to get ready for them.

Once the first season is in the books and teams go to work in the off season, how McAdoo responses will tell if he has long staying power.

In comment 12914868 hitchchops2 said:

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...in April, you may need a life. Oh yeah, it would be hard to be worse than his predecessor these past few years, so he has that going for him, which is nice.

You mean the three years when the Giants were the most injured team in the NFL? Well if that happens to McAdoo we'll be 6-10 again, if that.

concerned? Holy crap!

see McAdoo improve before he became a HC including our running game, tight ends and wide receivers. We went through a bit of a mess with Ruben Randle, Preston Parker and we never saw any improvements from guys like Jernigan either. At times I felt the offensive improved greatly but it was more of the Odell Beckham Jr show and the rest of the offense besides him and Eli made "mild" improvements. I am hoping he can push Andre Williams, Larry Donnell and even guys like Jay Bromley to become better players as we need more people to step up in crunch time. O-line needs to put up or shut up this year, too many seasons with a lackluster running game and they are overdo for better running production. I think long term McAdoo has the tools to be a head coach but it may take him some time and patience from fans before he gels.

me a little.

Plus we all heard that he was viewed as the potential replacement when hired. They had two years on the job to evaluate him and obviously were impressed.

him run things his own way,not having the restraints of being under an offensive minded HC.

No.

I'm excited about the McAdoo era. I think he's going to be a good one.

about a RT and not having a 2nd WR. McAdoo seemed to change the staff in areas we felt were a concern (oline and strength and conditioning especially).

Fix the right side of the line and get Eli a reliable 2nd target and they'll be fine.

I think the change from TC will be good. Fresh voice and fresh outlook.

...to oversee Eli's last good years. I'm concerned his play calling seemed predictable, particularly when it came to running the ball. On the other hand I don't know to what extent TC impacted playcalling and game planning. So to that extent I'm excited to see what if any changes Mac will institute to put his stamp on the offense. Eli was certainly productive and efficient since he became the OC.

Stay tuned.

I have no concerns specific to McAdoo. I do have concerns about having a rookie HC. As we all know, the transition from promising coordinator to HC frequently doesn't end pretty.

Giants obviously picked him a few years ago. the naysayers make it sound like he didn't really have an upward trend, until the Giants took up his cause.

So, either the Giants outsmarted themselves, or they picked a winner. IF he has it, this is his time.

I'm worried. our beloved team has placed a bet on him. Only a fool wouldn't be concerned. But that would be the same worry no matter what coach they might have chosen, including Cowher.

I'd have much more worried if they had retained Coughlin.

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In comment 12915182 section125 said:

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about a RT and not having a 2nd WR. McAdoo seemed to change the staff in areas we felt were a concern (oline and strength and conditioning especially).

This is what will boom or bust this team. Conditioning and Injuries.
Player must buy in to this. As far as team holes Oline and WR..
This draft both areas have to be filled with players that can start and contribute from day one. Since the team seems to be going defense
in round one, then we get a chance to see if the scouting dept and Reese have done their jobs. Second and Third round this year are important picks.
Could be what path the team takes for the end of the Eli era.

In comment 12914651 bceagle05 said:

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Can't say I give a shit about any other opinions coming out of that locker room.

Well played, Sir!

In comment 12915878 M.S. said:

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In comment 12914651 bceagle05 said: Quote: Can't say I give a shit about any other opinions coming out of that locker room. Well played, Sir!

Except, Eli would have said the same thing no matter who was hired, imv..

In Game management will be something to watch .
Can't really say he put his stamp on the team yet .
Parcells stared out with a tough 1st year .
Can't worry about what you can't change...

He is a rookie head coach. Going to make mistakes but from what has been said about him in the two years since becoming an offensive coordinator he has the potential to be a very good head coach in the NFL. Too late to be concerned about him now.

we'd likely be drooling for him to come to the Giants.