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Who you don't want

averagejoe : 4/22/2016 10:22 am
With the two big trades players are falling and options at ten are growing. We all know the players that will probably be there. The Giants don't miss in the first so I am confident we will get a good player. But with so many options who is the guy you DON'T want?

Mine is Hargreaves. Don't want a slot corner with tenth pick.

Who is yours?
Treadwell  
NYRiese : 4/22/2016 10:25 am : link
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Zeke  
Giants2012 : 4/22/2016 10:25 am : link
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I can't help  
djm : 4/22/2016 10:27 am : link
but be a little bored with a CB or even LT selection. Sorry but I want the shiny. Shiny being RB, WR, DE or passrusher. And yes I am fully aware some of those positions might be a reach at ten.

I'd take the LT (RT) over the CB though. CB bores me even though it's a critical position.
RE: Treadwell  
BLUATHRT : 4/22/2016 10:29 am : link
In comment 12915413 NYRiese said:
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I agree if the pick stays at 10. I wouldn't mind him later in the first with a trade back or at 40.
Treadwell  
njm : 4/22/2016 10:32 am : link
Even if he turns out to be a true #1 receiver, the Giants don't need a #1 receiver. They do have needs for a #1 at other positions.
Anyone they  
Big Blue '56 : 4/22/2016 10:33 am : link
draft would be fine with me..Reese's first round track record is trustworthy
I don't want  
Jay on the Island : 4/22/2016 10:33 am : link
Treadwell and Floyd. I know many people here love Floyd I just have a bad feeling about him.
I don't want ANYONE who isn't an OT.  
x meadowlander : 4/22/2016 10:34 am : link
I would LOVE to see a trade down scenario where they still nab' Conklin.
RE: I don't want ANYONE who isn't an OT.  
Jay on the Island : 4/22/2016 10:39 am : link
In comment 12915445 x meadowlander said:
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I would LOVE to see a trade down scenario where they still nab' Conklin.

I am starting to hope for a trade down IF Jack is gone. If he is there at 10 the Giants shouldn't hesitate. If Jack is gone I would be happy with another 2nd and an OL like Conklin or Decker.
Jack, Floyd or Hargreaves  
Dragon : 4/22/2016 10:40 am : link
None of these guys are worthy of the top ten pick one due to injury concerns the other two just not special talents.
...  
26.2 : 4/22/2016 10:40 am : link
I kind of still want shaq Lawson.
Floyd  
fivehead : 4/22/2016 10:41 am : link
I'll drop kick my tv off the wall, and it would be more violent than any tackle he has ever made.
Zeke  
old man : 4/22/2016 10:48 am : link
Unless we get a young veteran roadgrader for RT, or even RG.
Even then: maybe.
Hard  
Jon in NYC : 4/22/2016 10:49 am : link
pass on Zeke.
Floyd  
superspynyg : 4/22/2016 11:00 am : link
I just think that he will be a bust if not in the perfect system.
Offense  
Spider56 : 4/22/2016 11:02 am : link
If you score, you may win ... if they don't score, you will never lose ... I want a draft like 1986 ... DEFENSE, DEFENSE and more DEFENSE. ... (but maybe a real stud OL would be ok too)
Floyd, Elliot, Treadwell, Hargreaves  
Patrick77 : 4/22/2016 11:05 am : link
Floyd could be the best of the four IMO.
Elliot will be a good pro but isn't worth the pick. Not unless the blocking improves.
Treadwell would be a second rounder IMO in normal years.
Hargreaves is good but I like Apple better.

Even Bosa (airhead raver?) and Buckner (is he chris Canty or is he Calais Campbell?) aren't slam dunks.

I think Conklin is the safest pick likely but also the one with by far the least upside.
The more I think about it,  
Doomster : 4/22/2016 11:07 am : link
it's hard to pass on a talent that can change a game with one play......so if Elliot is there, I think you take a shot....

Behind this line, as it stands, it's not going to be easy for him....but I saw Jennings run through some holes for 20-30 yards, that Wilson would have taken to the house....and Elliot brings that to the table.....this offense needs more than two playmakers(Eli and OBj)......and with him back there, the defense has to respect the possibility of him getting the ball, thus opening the pass game a little more on 3rd down, or him busting a long one with 8 in the box.....

To add an element like him, to this offense, spreads the field a little more.....and if we can somehow get someone for the right side of the line, it makes him more dangerous.....

Problem is, we can't fix everything......It all depends on who is there at 10, and what the backup plan is, if the guy we want isn't there.....the fix becomes another option....

Let's face it, even if everything falls into place with all the new players, this team is still, at least, another year away, from Eli getting his 3rd ring....I hope we are headed in that direction....
Doomster  
Patrick77 : 4/22/2016 11:11 am : link
I think Elliot will be a good pro and is worth a top 20 pick any year. My thought is on passing downs you still use vereen, Jennings would still spell him, Williams and darkwa would never see the field. The improvement would be substantial but not as substantial as having a #2 WR an actual linebacker, another coverage safety or corner, a right side to th offensive line, etc...

The long term improvement of adding him is huge. The Giants at some point have to think short term unless they figure they can replace Eli manning.
Floyd - He scares me  
PatersonPlank : 4/22/2016 11:26 am : link
I can just envision that our 1st Rd pick turns out to be just a situational, 3rd down pass rusher (sort of a Sintim that wasn't hurt). We need an impact player that is on the field all the time.
Floyd...after the failed Clint Sintim experiment  
FranknWeezer : 4/22/2016 11:31 am : link
with an early pick on a wiry-build 3-4 OLB, I don't want anything to do with Floyd.
A Healthy  
mavric : 4/22/2016 11:31 am : link
stud game changing player with no injury history or character issues!

Elliott, Conklin, Lawson, Apple, Stanley, Rankins, all fit that qualification. Would love Bosa, but that's a pipe dream that he'll be there at 10.
I have three I don't want  
jvm52106 : 4/22/2016 11:37 am : link
1) Hargreaves
2) Jack- yup, jack. He is overrated and is a tweener. Not really a LB'er and not really a safety. Great athlete but just don't see him being an instinctive pro.
3) Elliott
Leonard Floyd  
Old Dirty : 4/22/2016 11:43 am : link
is the one player I really don't want the Giants to draft at #10. No way he is 10th best player on their board.

I won't be thrilled if the pick is Treadwell or Elliot either. We have bigger needs than RB, and Treadwell shouldn't be the 1st WR selected. I like Josh Doctson over him and not sure they should even go WR at #10.
Not Conklin at 10  
DonnieD89 : 4/22/2016 11:53 am : link
There are better prospects out there.
Any WR at 10...  
Reb8thVA : 4/22/2016 11:57 am : link
I think WR is a major need but I think there will be value at that position in the 2nd or 3rd rounds
For me it's not 'who I don't want'...  
Torrag : 4/22/2016 12:11 pm : link
...rather it's who I prefer to others or where I value them in comparison to the #10 pick.

For example I don't have Top 10 'grades' on Treadwell, Elliot or Floyd. They don't possess that type of resume historically as college prospects imo. Yet the Giants could be forced into choosing among them if they stay at the #10 pick.

The OT debate has gotten very interesting with Conklin apparently closing in on Stanley based primarily on superior intangibles.
Floyd  
10to13td : 4/22/2016 12:13 pm : link
The BUST factor.
I assume you mean if we stay at #10  
Jay in Toronto : 4/22/2016 12:18 pm : link
I go with Zeke - just don't know how much is a function of the lanes the OSU OL opened up.

Not a huge fan of Treadwell but he reminds me a bit of Amani and Hicks. Would we have picked either at 10?
At #10  
Anakim : 4/22/2016 12:21 pm : link
I don't want Floyd, Conklin or Treadwell
RE: I have three I don't want  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/22/2016 12:24 pm : link
In comment 12915641 jvm52106 said:
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1) Hargreaves
2) Jack- yup, jack. He is overrated and is a tweener. Not really a LB'er and not really a safety. Great athlete but just don't see him being an instinctive pro.
3) Elliott


Jack is a 'tweeter? at 245 lbs, running a 4.6? Are you looking for 265 lb LBs who run a 4.5?
that should be  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/22/2016 12:25 pm : link
'tweener.
Floyd, Lawson, any DT not named Nkemdiche  
JonC : 4/22/2016 12:26 pm : link
Don't love Conklin or Treadwell, would look at them a little later after a trade down. Prefer Decker at OT.
Don't Floyd and Elliott  
JohnVB : 4/22/2016 12:34 pm : link
Would prefer Stanley or Conklin.

Would be ok with Lawson and Buckner.

Would be ok with a WR bc Reese knows WRs.

Would be slightly disappointed with Jack bc of the knee and Hargreaves bc of our roster composition.

Elliott,  
pa_giant_fan : 4/22/2016 12:41 pm : link
Or any OL not named Tunsil
..  
Peppers : 4/22/2016 12:46 pm : link
Elliot, Stanley, and Rankins.
A guy who's a bust  
AP in Halfmoon : 4/22/2016 12:48 pm : link
no clue who that is
Conklin, stanley  
Mike B from JC : 4/22/2016 12:51 pm : link
Or Elliott. Give me Floyd or a fully medically cleared jack
Floyd  
Thegratefulhead : 4/22/2016 12:54 pm : link
Bust potential
no Stanley  
TommyWiseau : 4/22/2016 1:00 pm : link
Or Lawson at 10
Floyd  
Thegratefulhead : 4/22/2016 1:12 pm : link
Bust potential
Floyd and Stanley  
Emlen'sGremlins : 4/22/2016 1:35 pm : link
No Sintim like, square peg/round hole and no Derek Brown of OTs please.
My bad  
mavric : 4/22/2016 1:42 pm : link
in my previous post I thought it was who "I want".

there's plenty of "don't wants" - like any player with an injury history, character issues, high risk, undersized, avg speed, etc..

Don't want with our no. 10 pick:

Jack (inj),
Floyd (hi rsk),
Stanley (undisciplined/hard to motivate),
Nkemdiche, Ogbah, and Spence (character issues)
any QB (no need)
There's no wideout worthy of 10.  
Ira : 4/22/2016 1:53 pm : link
Also Zeke - not a big need right now and not sure how much his ol making huge holes for him to run through had to do with his success.
Anyone who pushes Flowers out of LT  
JohnB : 4/22/2016 1:54 pm : link
The kid was 20 years old last year, a rookie and did pretty well. Not perfect but well. Leave him be and let him grow into the position. Use the pick elsewhere.
Haha.  
totowa_gman : 4/22/2016 2:21 pm : link
funny thread...
100% don't want Hargreaves  
RobCarpenter : 4/22/2016 3:35 pm : link
at all -- better value picks will be there. Plus he was awful against Michigan, I know it's only one game, blah blah blah, but taking a CB with the #10 pick who completely bombed in a big game is a bad idea.
Ramsey  
rasbutant : 4/22/2016 4:01 pm : link
Bosa
Buckner
Tunsil
Lawson
Jack
In that order
Dont want  
Glover : 4/22/2016 4:05 pm : link
a RT. Don't want Floyd.
Not saying I can't be wrong, but I would want Elliott, Hargreaves, and Buckner should he fall (not likely).
Don't want Treadwell, but he could be awesome too.
I want the Defense addressed: DE, S, and CB.
Want a good WR too. Gonna have to take what they can get, can't get all those guys in the first round, especially if they take Elliott, not a need, but the best player IMO if he is there at 10.
RE: Anyone who pushes Flowers out of LT  
shyster : 4/22/2016 4:34 pm : link
In comment 12915970 JohnB said:
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The kid was 20 years old last year


He turned 21 before he was drafted, let alone played.

He's 22 on Monday.
Elliott  
jeff57 : 4/22/2016 4:35 pm : link
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Assuming we stay at 10  
UConn4523 : 4/22/2016 4:37 pm : link
then it's Treadwell if I had to pick someone. I like him, but I don't see a superstar which is what we need with that pick. But if we did go with him, I'll hope I'm wrong and root like hell for him.
Floyd  
Hampton27 : 4/22/2016 4:40 pm : link
terrifies me, and not in a good way.
Elliott  
Greg from LI : 4/22/2016 4:43 pm : link
.
Besides not liking Floyd...  
Klaatu : 4/22/2016 4:50 pm : link
I don't want a WR drafted before the 3rd round.
Don't want the CB  
KWALL2 : 4/22/2016 5:19 pm : link
Don't want Buckner.

Really don't want Treadwell. Even at 40.
Jack  
geemanfan : 4/22/2016 5:55 pm : link
But I doubt he gets near our pick.
'I don't want a WR drafted before the 3rd round.'...  
Torrag : 4/22/2016 5:59 pm : link
...I agree. Carroo in Round 3 makes the most sense given the shoddy talent pool at WR and our other needs.
I'd be pissed off  
mrvax : 4/22/2016 6:05 pm : link
if the Giants go and take another Oline guy with pick #10. I want a guy that can make a big difference on D, like a coverage LB, a pass rushing LB or Dline. If offense, I want a guy that touches the ball often. Since no WRs are worth pick #10, that leaves Elliott as a guy I'd like.

Jack, Floyd, Elliott any of these guys, please.
Did not have my glasses on  
geemanfan : 4/22/2016 6:31 pm : link
I want Jack don't want Floyd so that pretty much locks him in as our pick.
anyone but floyd.  
BigBlueCane : 4/22/2016 6:34 pm : link
.
Floyd  
illmatic : 4/22/2016 6:45 pm : link
That's about it.
You bastids  
mrvax : 4/22/2016 7:04 pm : link
will be eating those words by the end of 2016.
Conklin@10  
YahBoo33 : 4/22/2016 7:08 pm : link
Personally don't think value/worth it.
Dare I say...overrated
RE: Anyone they  
micky : 4/22/2016 7:43 pm : link
In comment 12915437 Big Blue '56 said:
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draft would be fine with me..Reese's first round track record is trustworthy


So you'd be alright with Bootsie Ball, PK, from DeVry?
Not about what I dont want  
giantstock : 4/22/2016 8:20 pm : link
It's about what I want. I want either an OT or defense at line of scrimmage (DE/DT/LB) that can rush the passer.

I see a lot of Hargreaves around our 10 pick. I don't want that. Would be disappointed is we went with a CB in round 1 unless it is Ramsey who is a Safety anyways. And he won't be at 10.
I can live with just about any and every  
The_Boss : 4/22/2016 9:34 pm : link
Player mocked to the NYG......except Floyd. He's about as soft as the Charmin toilet paper I'm about to wipe my ass with...
Elliot, Jack or Stanley  
GMen23 : 4/22/2016 11:05 pm : link
and a WR in Rd 2
No OTs Except Tunsil (Who won't be there at 10)  
Jim in Tampa : 4/22/2016 11:09 pm : link
No to Hargreaves and Treadwell.

Yes to Mack, Elliott or Floyd as I believe all three have the potential to be great.
I can deal with just about anyone  
Modus Operandi : 4/22/2016 11:18 pm : link
But I would be disappointed if we picked Ogbah at 10 and downright apoplectic if we selected Nkemdiche.
I'd be scared of Jack's health issues.  
yatqb : 4/22/2016 11:34 pm : link
I don't want Stanley unless we're moving Flowers to RT.

I'm OK with anyone else, although I'd prefer we trade down if we're going to select Conklin.

I'm not scared about Floyd...comparing him to Sintim is ridiculous, as he is SO much more athletic and can actually go backwards. It would be nice if his extra weight led to better tackling, but I think that if we took him Spags would find mismatch after mismatch for him. If Spags could do that for Pierce and Mitchell, I can just imagine what he'd do for Floyd.
yat:  
mrvax : 4/23/2016 12:21 am : link
Not sure I'd want Stanley. He's not known for run blocking. Just a younger Beatty from what I can tell. Conklin in a trade down to play RT would be nice but not this year, please. No Oline again in the 1st.
With my luck if I pick a player I don't want, he is sure to be the  
wgenesis123 : 4/23/2016 4:35 am : link
pick. I can't let myself think like that because no matter who the pick is, I have to get on board and root for thje guy as a Giants fan.
I think Bosa and Buckner are both overrated  
David in LA : 4/23/2016 4:41 am : link
and are guys I feel will disappoint in the pros.
perfect year for a trade down  
chris r : 4/23/2016 4:49 am : link
not in love with anyone likely to be available at 10. Of course Beckham wasn't on my radar (ha?) a few years ago either.
Anyone not named Elliot  
ReneNYG1 : 4/23/2016 11:33 am : link
Really the guys I don't want are Floyd,Jack,Stanley,Lee.
Guys I love at 10th
Elliot,Buckner,Decker,Treadwell,Ragland,Hargreaves,Treadwell,all these guys I like alot so I would be very happy.
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