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pganut : 4/24/2016 10:41 am
So, kinda a big day in Brooklyn, right?

We all know how long it's been. Everyone knows what's at stake. While not technically must-win, it feels like it is and what better way to reward the faithful than by putting an end to the drought.

We'll let the team speak for today's goals:
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Cappy - "I think the guys know exactly how they have to play. It's a situation where we're not going to say too much as coaches. We're just going to let them play within the team concept, go out and have some fun and try to close them out if we can. It's all about our fans and the atmosphere that's going to be in that building. We have to feed off our crowd and that's the big thing."

Fransie - "We had a chance last year in Game 7 to finish it but this is the first time we're going back with three wins and have a chance to close it out at home. So hopefully we're going to come out and respond the right way."

Hammer - "The last one is always the hardest one to win. We have an opportunity to do it in our barn, so we have to prepare."

The Captain - “Our fans know the opportunity we have, and our goal as players is not to get too carried away but also feed off their energy. It’s the next game and we know how desperate Florida will be, so we have to be able to match that.”

Happy Birthday to the Great Dane, Frans Nielsen. Hoping for a memorable birthday celebration for him.

And if you believe in karmic balance, today marks the 14th anniversary of this, one of the biggest moments in Islanders home playoff history: Shawn Bates penalty shot against Toronto

Let's Go Islanders!

Look in...to the eye of the storm
Look out...for the force without form
Look around...at the sight and the sound
Look in look out look around...

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Not sure if posted, sort of a cherry-picked stat lol, but still cool..  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 11:25 am : link
John Tavares the 2nd player in NHL history to tie a postseason game with less than a minute and then win the series in the overtime.
Do you think they let Josh Bailey out of his locker yet?  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 11:31 am : link
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RE: Not sure if posted, sort of a cherry-picked stat lol, but still cool..  
theold5j : 4/25/2016 11:36 am : link
I was waiting for this one. I figured that had to be a rare feat.

In comment 12919746 Mike in Long Beach said:
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John Tavares the 2nd player in NHL history to tie a postseason game with less than a minute and then win the series in the overtime.
RE: Thanks, Hoya and Tony  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 11:41 am : link
In comment 12919234 pganut said:
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It's only one series, but long-forgotten territory for us. Feels good this morning.

On another note, the fact that there are some absolutely delusional comments on the other team's thread, smacking of petulant children stamping their feet in a desperate attempt to continue to deny that the Isles are in fact a good team and earned that victory - perhaps to mask some deep seeded insecurity - is pretty funny (and at the same time very sad) to see.


There's a couple good guys over there. Actually, despite that they're not a huge fan of me, I like most of them. I think there's a kinship amongst hockey fans across all fan bases. We're those who "get it." They are smart fans and they know their hockey on BBI.

But Rangers fans really are an entitled bunch. So soft. Literally all year long in 90% of their losses, their threads have been riddled with people bitching about various ways they were screwed. The refs sucked. The new review process sucks. Toronto hates them. Yada yada yada. It's so nauseating. Does it really make you feel better to pretend the refs stole things from you? That's one view I've shared with MarshallOnMontana across all sports. There's nothing more futile than blaming the refs unless the offense is so unbelievably egregious.

And in the same breathe, yes, they do acknowledge their teams flaws, but they just do that as a qualifier to justify the incessant complaining and entitlement regarding those other factors. "We weren't winning this series anyway, but the refs absolutely sucked." That type of bullshit.

I watched every minute of that Penguins series and a solid amount of Rangers games this year. It's nonsense. They were one of the least penalized teams in the league this year. The Letang slash and subsequent lack of suspension was garbage, yes. Other than that? Very evenly officiated series.

I'm sure I'll be accused of being obsessed with the Rangers for posting a grand total of 1 time about them since they were eliminated (this post). I admit I definitely follow them closely. Glad they are in the rear view mirror where they should be (we are the better hockey team) and am looking forward to a tough series with Tampa.

Hoping my string of predictions works out :)

Last year's prediction: Caps in 7
This year's prediction: Isles in 6 over the Panthers
I've got the Isles in 7 over the Lightning.

Let's go!
Staple checking in with NHL Radio on SiriusXM  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 12:21 pm : link
About 9 minutes of audio
Link - ( New Window )
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Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 12:40 pm : link
Still giddy!!!  
BlueHurricane : 4/25/2016 12:50 pm : link
Can't believe that game. Anyone who was there is truly blessed. I could only imagine what it was like.
Fun series. I fell asleep for the first double OT on Friday  
Andy in Halifax : 4/25/2016 12:55 pm : link
but I was determined to stay awake last night and did.

Congrats and good luck Islanders fans!
the last picture is incredible  
theold5j : 4/25/2016 1:04 pm : link
who scores a goal from behind the net, from their knees, in double OT for a series clincher. I'd say all things considered that has to be one of the best playoff OT goals ever scored.
So let's talk some hockey.  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 1:06 pm : link
1) Ryan Strome: Does he get back in the lineup for game 1? If so, who sits? Quine? Bernier? Dare I say it... Bailey. Bernier has been physical and responsible with the puck. He doesn't bring a lot to the table offensively but you can count on him to play smart and win some battles along the boards. He's earned a lot filling in the last two games, IMO.

2) Ryan Pulock: This situation is unexpectedly intriguing to me. I would've thought him returning to the lineup would be a no brainer once he got healthy, but in my opinion, Zidlicky had his two best defensive games of the season the last 2 times out. He also had the primary assist on Quine's game-winner the other night. What do we do here?
RE: the last picture is incredible  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 1:07 pm : link
In comment 12920093 theold5j said:
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who scores a goal from behind the net, from their knees, in double OT for a series clincher. I'd say all things considered that has to be one of the best playoff OT goals ever scored.


My seats were a perfect angle the goal. The TV angle had a lot of traffic in front of the action. Lots of players and Luongo himself. But from my vantage point there was no obstructions. The entire section stood all at once because we saw all of that wide open real estate and Tavares sneaking around the corner.

Really as incredible a sports moment as I've ever witnessed live and it's not close.
RE: So let's talk some hockey.  
Mike in NY : 4/25/2016 1:13 pm : link
In comment 12920099 Mike in Long Beach said:
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1) Ryan Strome: Does he get back in the lineup for game 1? If so, who sits? Quine? Bernier? Dare I say it... Bailey. Bernier has been physical and responsible with the puck. He doesn't bring a lot to the table offensively but you can count on him to play smart and win some battles along the boards. He's earned a lot filling in the last two games, IMO.

2) Ryan Pulock: This situation is unexpectedly intriguing to me. I would've thought him returning to the lineup would be a no brainer once he got healthy, but in my opinion, Zidlicky had his two best defensive games of the season the last 2 times out. He also had the primary assist on Quine's game-winner the other night. What do we do here?


1) If Bailey is hurt that makes the decision easy. If not it is a tough call because I am also not thrilled with the play of Kulemin (although he stepped up in Games 5&6) and Nelson.

2) CdH has been our worst D-man in the playoffs. Do you pair Pulock with Boychuk?
As mentioned before  
marbles : 4/25/2016 2:00 pm : link
Zidlicky has played well. But because of his age, he can't be relied upon for an entire series.

Zidlicky will most likely get game one. But if Pulock is healthy, I think he will see ice time this series.
I think  
Fish : 4/25/2016 2:03 pm : link
Brock would get benched. Bailey, Kule has shown some signs of life. Brock was in over his head yesterday.

dehaan, hickey will never sit for anyone this year.

Also Zidlicky has looked great BUT he is well rested and if he keeps playing, he will tire out and lose the edge. Same with Bernier who also was great.

Quine while electric did disappear yesterday.
Just checked out the other thread  
Dave M : 4/25/2016 2:09 pm : link
The guys complaining are being really unreasonable. Most instances that trip would be called but they weren't calling anything that game. In the beginning of the series I thought Florida was getting the benefits of the calls like Martin's slash and Florida attacking after the whistle and the Isles getting penalized. I thought the Isles get the beneficial calls later on. It's more referee ineptitude or discretion and not a conspiracy. What a joke and so is anyone who thinks there is a conspiracy.
RE: Just checked out the other thread  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 2:45 pm : link
In comment 12920238 Dave M said:
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The guys complaining are being really unreasonable. Most instances that trip would be called but they weren't calling anything that game. In the beginning of the series I thought Florida was getting the benefits of the calls like Martin's slash and Florida attacking after the whistle and the Isles getting penalized. I thought the Isles get the beneficial calls later on. It's more referee ineptitude or discretion and not a conspiracy. What a joke and so is anyone who thinks there is a conspiracy.


They are petulant children who think it was Hank's birthright to hoist the Cup. Not so much. Their panties will untwist sooner or later (I hope). That is unless the refs allow it.
Staple says  
Metnut : 4/25/2016 2:49 pm : link
Bailey and Pulock might be back for Game 3 of the next round. Looks like Strome will get another shot, and we can revvaluate Zid once Pulock is ready.

Are Stamkos and Stralman still doubtful for round 2?
By the way, if you're keeping score...  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 2:52 pm : link
The refs:

- Love the Penguins and will do anything for them
- Are starting a love affair with the Islanders
- Hate the Rangers.

Isles and Pens could potentially meet in the ECF. What on Earth will Bettman do!?

Did staple  
Fish : 4/25/2016 2:53 pm : link
Mention anything about rangers fans and their panties in a bunch?
RE: Staple says  
pganut : 4/25/2016 2:53 pm : link
In comment 12920338 Metnut said:
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Bailey and Pulock might be back for Game 3 of the next round. Looks like Strome will get another shot, and we can revvaluate Zid once Pulock is ready.

Are Stamkos and Stralman still doubtful for round 2?
Cooper hopes Stralman will start skating soon, but doubtful on Stamkos and still a longshot for Stralman.
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Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 2:55 pm : link
In comment 12920351 pganut said:
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In comment 12920338 Metnut said:


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Bailey and Pulock might be back for Game 3 of the next round. Looks like Strome will get another shot, and we can revvaluate Zid once Pulock is ready.

Are Stamkos and Stralman still doubtful for round 2?

Cooper hopes Stralman will start skating soon, but doubtful on Stamkos and still a longshot for Stralman.


Wow, I'm surprised either Stamkos or Strallman are even a possibility, even if remote.
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marbles : 4/25/2016 2:58 pm : link
In comment 12920353 Mike in Long Beach said:
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In comment 12920351 pganut said:


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In comment 12920338 Metnut said:


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Bailey and Pulock might be back for Game 3 of the next round. Looks like Strome will get another shot, and we can revvaluate Zid once Pulock is ready.

Are Stamkos and Stralman still doubtful for round 2?

Cooper hopes Stralman will start skating soon, but doubtful on Stamkos and still a longshot for Stralman.



Wow, I'm surprised either Stamkos or Strallman are even a possibility, even if remote.


Why are you surprised about Stamkos and Strallman. The NHL made certain their injuries would last through the Islanders series (which the NHL had already set up).
RE: By the way, if you're keeping score...  
Dave M : 4/25/2016 3:02 pm : link
In comment 12920346 Mike in Long Beach said:
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The refs:

- Love the Penguins and will do anything for them
- Are starting a love affair with the Islanders
- Hate the Rangers.

Isles and Pens could potentially meet in the ECF. What on Earth will Bettman do!?



If only James Dolan didn't sue them so he could run his own website.
Ah, forgot about the marbles.  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 3:03 pm : link
Good thing we lost Game 82 on purpose. Bolts might've had to play the Rangers and Stamkos would have to be ready to go. Rules are rules.
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arcarsenal : 4/25/2016 3:04 pm : link
A really exciting win last night, advancing to the 2nd round for the first time in 23 years and getting a giant monkey off your backs and y'all are talking about Rangers fans.

Good stuff.
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Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 3:09 pm : link
In comment 12920380 arcarsenal said:
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A really exciting win last night, advancing to the 2nd round for the first time in 23 years and getting a giant monkey off your backs and y'all are talking about Rangers fans.

Good stuff.


Thanks for chiming in, buddy!

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arcarsenal : 4/25/2016 3:13 pm : link
Any time. Just dropped by earlier to congratulate you guys and say good luck. Should be a good series.
RE: Just checked out the other thread  
The 12th Man : 4/25/2016 3:15 pm : link
In comment 12920238 Dave M said:
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The guys complaining are being really unreasonable. Most instances that trip would be called but they weren't calling anything that game. In the beginning of the series I thought Florida was getting the benefits of the calls like Martin's slash and Florida attacking after the whistle and the Isles getting penalized. I thought the Isles get the beneficial calls later on. It's more referee ineptitude or discretion and not a conspiracy. What a joke and so is anyone who thinks there is a conspiracy.


Look there is a lot of good guys over there. The 2 who are more haters than fans are still at it. Look Clutterbuck took an elbow to the nose that drew blood and a high stick. Franzie got elbowed high also in game 5. The refs are going to let them play it is the playoffs. At some point in this next series we will all be screaming at the tv over the call that should have been made or the lack of one that screwed us and led to a goal. It is called playoff hockey. I am giddy we won the series. The monkey is gone bring on the Lightning. Just remember what happened to this board after game 4. As I have said, this is a resilient team. They have heart and thanks to that heart the monkey is gone and we feel the way we do today. I am hoping for no Thursday night games as that is my council meeting night. Praying for Friday.
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Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 3:16 pm : link
In comment 12920407 arcarsenal said:
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Any time. Just dropped by earlier to congratulate you guys and say good luck. Should be a good series.


Thank you. For the record we're kind've just reacting to your thread.

I was just saying how I think the Rangers fans on BBI are as bright a fan community I've seen. When you guys were 16-3 or whatever, most of you were treating it as a bit of fools gold (except Seth who thinks you're the Oilers of the 80s), when most fans--myself included for sure--wouldn't be able to see it that way. You're in tune with the team and know your stuff. The ref stuff is the only issue I take.

And yeah, we're having a little fun with this right now. You're our arch rival and we're rarely on top these days. I think there's been plenty of Islander talk on this thread.
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arcarsenal : 4/25/2016 3:24 pm : link
There was some egregious stuff that went uncalled in our series but it wasn't why we lost and officiating isn't the reason the Islanders won, either. It is what it is.. I don't like to blame referees unless it's really over the top bad. Barkov got a penalty shot that could have won Game 5 and he blew it. He's their best player.. the Panthers couldn't have asked for a better chance. Greiss stopped him and made some big saves in general. Tavares rose up in the big moment like superstar players do.

Anyway, that's just my take. I have no love for the Bolts after last year so good luck against them.
I'm happy FLA is in the rear view mirror.  
JayBinQueens : 4/25/2016 3:29 pm : link
They may be the biggest team and pushed their weight around, especially against our smaller D.

Tampa has a lot of skill but the Isles will be able to play more to their tempo.
Does anyone have a link to Howie's call  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 4:00 pm : link
on the game-tying goal? Can't seem to find it anywhere.
RE: Does anyone have a link to Howie's call  
pganut : 4/25/2016 4:06 pm : link
In comment 12920545 Mike in Long Beach said:
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on the game-tying goal? Can't seem to find it anywhere.
Here you go, chum. FWIW, the crowd noise is louder (IMO) on the NBCSN feed than it is on MSG. MSG link
Idk  
JayBinQueens : 4/25/2016 4:13 pm : link
if people take stan fischler serious anymore, but his post game interviews are ridiculous
RE: RE: Does anyone have a link to Howie's call  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 4:13 pm : link
In comment 12920562 pganut said:
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In comment 12920545 Mike in Long Beach said:


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on the game-tying goal? Can't seem to find it anywhere.

Here you go, chum. FWIW, the crowd noise is louder (IMO) on the NBCSN feed than it is on MSG. MSG link


Ha, yeah I've seen the NBC one.. Pretty awesome.

I was actually on that MSG link before, but can't spot it. Mind you, looking for the equalizer here, not the game-winner.
RE: Idk  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 4:13 pm : link
In comment 12920581 JayBinQueens said:
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if people take stan fischler serious anymore, but his post game interviews are ridiculous


Haha yeah they're bad. He kept making that same stupid "two vacations in Florida joke" and the players never laughed at it.
RE: RE: Idk  
JayBinQueens : 4/25/2016 4:15 pm : link
In comment 12920587 Mike in Long Beach said:
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if people take stan fischler serious anymore, but his post game interviews are ridiculous



Haha yeah they're bad. He kept making that same stupid "two vacations in Florida joke" and the players never laughed at it.


The second time he did it, after using the joke (where it failed) on Boychuck, Johnny yelled over "stan, it's not a damn florida vacation!!"
lolol, he did!?  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 4:16 pm : link
I didn't catch that. But yeah, Boychuck seemed the most annoyed by it in his interview so that makes sense.
Ah, and let's enjoy this.  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 4:19 pm : link
RE: lolol, he did!?  
JayBinQueens : 4/25/2016 4:20 pm : link
In comment 12920596 Mike in Long Beach said:
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I didn't catch that. But yeah, Boychuck seemed the most annoyed by it in his interview so that makes sense.

he also had a back and forth with Greiss that went something like
Stan: "so, is this the most exciting game you've ever played in"

Greiss: "It's definitely up there"
Stan: "Just up there??"
Greiss: No idea what to say
RE: RE: lolol, he did!?  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 4:21 pm : link
In comment 12920613 JayBinQueens said:
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I didn't catch that. But yeah, Boychuck seemed the most annoyed by it in his interview so that makes sense.


he also had a back and forth with Greiss that went something like
Stan: "so, is this the most exciting game you've ever played in"

Greiss: "It's definitely up there"
Stan: "Just up there??"
Greiss: No idea what to say


Haha yeah I saw that. Also in his Boychuk interview he said something like "How many goals did you score in the lockerroom." Boychuck literally had no idea what to say and just goes "uhh, none?"
Yeah, the Maven schtick wore thin after a while last night  
pganut : 4/25/2016 4:27 pm : link
Stan, it's a fucking business trip. I loved him and Nabby, but outside of that, some of the humor attempts should be saved for other times.

Mike, try this one: Tying goal
RE: Yeah, the Maven schtick wore thin after a while last night  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 4:38 pm : link
In comment 12920635 pganut said:
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Stan, it's a fucking business trip. I loved him and Nabby, but outside of that, some of the humor attempts should be saved for other times.

Mike, try this one: Tying goal


Saw that one too haha, thanks man. Was hoping for a standard HQ vid. Appreciate you looking.
Watching fischler  
Fish : 4/25/2016 4:40 pm : link
And the team is in the thick of it all and old man acting like a loser.
All Hail  
Fish : 4/25/2016 5:20 pm : link
John Tavares the new king of hockey in New York. (Sorry Hank).



RE: All Hail  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 5:25 pm : link
In comment 12920770 Fish said:
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John Tavares the new king of hockey in New York. (Sorry Hank).




I'll give the Mets a small edge in the race for best team in New York.

But forget being the king of hockey in New York... I think Tavares is the best player in all New York sports right now. Beckham and Eli are the only other athletes in the conversation. Syndergaard is on his way, but not yet in the league of the other 3.
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pganut : 4/25/2016 5:31 pm : link
In comment 12920778 Mike in Long Beach said:
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John Tavares the new king of hockey in New York. (Sorry Hank).


I'll give the Mets a small edge in the race for best team in New York.

But forget being the king of hockey in New York... I think Tavares is the best player in all New York sports right now. Beckham and Eli are the only other athletes in the conversation. Syndergaard is on his way, but not yet in the league of the other 3.
As a Giants, Islanders and Mets fan, there's so much of your post to love. Also, some guy named Harvey is probably also in that conversation (and to be fair, Lundqvist is still on the NY Mount Rushmore).
Pekka  
Fish : 4/25/2016 5:35 pm : link
Rinne > Hank
Ah crap  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/25/2016 5:36 pm : link
I had Hank mentally in that group because of Fish's post, but forgot to write it, lol. But yeah, my bad. Hank is obviously in the mix.

And you're also right about Harvey. He's been getting knocked around a lot this year so far, but I definitely put too much weight in that. I do like Syndergaard better, though. I think that kid is only just getting started. Hoping he stays healthy.
RE: Ah crap  
pganut : 4/25/2016 5:52 pm : link
In comment 12920796 Mike in Long Beach said:
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I had Hank mentally in that group because of Fish's post, but forgot to write it, lol. But yeah, my bad. Hank is obviously in the mix.

And you're also right about Harvey. He's been getting knocked around a lot this year so far, but I definitely put too much weight in that. I do like Syndergaard better, though. I think that kid is only just getting started. Hoping he stays healthy.
Agree. I'm a Thor guy, 100%. And Fish, LOL. A joke I get!
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