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Tony Pauline reporting Giants interest in RB Brandon Wilds

YANKEE28 : 4/25/2016 7:49 pm
of South Carolina. Suggesting Giants could be interested with their 6th pick.

He was at the Combine. Tall running back at 6'1"

He is very good when he plays, but he has had a lot of injuries
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Stuff like this makes no sense to me  
Bill L : 4/25/2016 7:54 pm : link
I get that they might want to improve at RB, but they already have 4. What is the likelihood a low round pick offers any benefit?
Agreed. A RB in any round this year is a wasted pick.  
Red Dog : 4/25/2016 7:59 pm : link
Sign somebody as a FA instead.
We have 4 RB's, but how long do you expect out of Jennings?  
David in LA : 4/25/2016 8:01 pm : link
Vereen has a niche role as a receiver out of the backfield. Darkwa's unknown, and Andre Williams really struggled. If there's a guy we like, none of the guys we currently have should prevent us from taking him.
we have 5 running backs  
gtt350 : 4/25/2016 8:04 pm : link
Rainy
Looks like he's running through mud when he stops and starts  
Saos1n : 4/25/2016 8:12 pm : link
Good vision... But don't let his feet stop...
Jennings is the only guy who can start  
GeorgeAdams33 : 4/25/2016 8:13 pm : link
We have a bunch of one trick ponies except for RJ. I wouldn't want any of them starting if they had to do it alone as the bell cow. None of them are worth having on the field for more than 10 plays a game. Jennings is the only one. Williams and Darkwa haven't proven they can catch the ball and pick up the blitz. Vereen and Rainey aren't what you want rushing too often especially not in short yardage.
A late round RB  
Reb8thVA : 4/25/2016 8:21 pm : link
Unless he has super speed like Keith Marshall or Kenyan Drake is a waste. They need a RB but they need someone who is going to be a playmaker not another JAG which they have enough of.
Never saw it with this guy  
Torrag : 4/25/2016 8:21 pm : link
Too high cut and susceptible to big hits which he proved unable to absorb and stay in the lineup. Pass.
Deandre Washington, Texas Tech  
gogiants : 4/25/2016 8:32 pm : link
if going for a 6th round running back. Averaged 6.4 yards/carry for 1492 yards. Averaged 6.9 when including receiving yards.
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RE: Stuff like this makes no sense to me  
AcidTest : 4/25/2016 8:35 pm : link
In comment 12921005 Bill L said:
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I get that they might want to improve at RB, but they already have 4. What is the likelihood a low round pick offers any benefit?


Agreed.
Darius Jackson, Eastern Michigan  
TC : 4/25/2016 8:41 pm : link
6', 220, 4.35 40, 41" vertical, 6.82 3-cone and plenty of production. Also, Keith Farrow from Houston. Good size, quick, very tough. Russell Hansbrough, small but highly successful Mizzou RB.

All or some should be available as UDFA. All talented, all healthy all successful RB in their program.

And then there's Jonathan Williams. Very much pro ready Razorback producer. He'll likely cost a 4th.
Rather take a shot at another position  
Jim Burt64 : 4/25/2016 8:49 pm : link
I think Darkwa was severely underutilized last yr.
RE: Stuff like this makes no sense to me  
bigbluehoya : 4/25/2016 8:50 pm : link
In comment 12921005 Bill L said:
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I get that they might want to improve at RB, but they already have 4. What is the likelihood a low round pick offers any benefit?


I don't agree with this.

As far as positions go, it seems like RB is where you have the highest probability of finding a player who can play and contribute in the NFL. Chances of finding a player better than Andre Williams are strong to quite strong...and I'm in favor of anything that pushes him off the roster.
Williams serves a purpose as a big back  
GeorgeAdams33 : 4/25/2016 9:03 pm : link
Darkwa is replaceable but he plays special. Jennings is getting up there in years. Vereen isn't going anywhere just yet.

I hope we can sign OBJ's cousin.
specials  
GeorgeAdams33 : 4/25/2016 9:04 pm : link
Darkwa plays on special teams, which Ibelieve all of the backs do.
RE: RE: Stuff like this makes no sense to me  
Bill L : 4/25/2016 9:09 pm : link
In comment 12921083 bigbluehoya said:
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In comment 12921005 Bill L said:


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I get that they might want to improve at RB, but they already have 4. What is the likelihood a low round pick offers any benefit?



I don't agree with this.

As far as positions go, it seems like RB is where you have the highest probability of finding a player who can play and contribute in the NFL. Chances of finding a player better than Andre Williams are strong to quite strong...and I'm in favor of anything that pushes him off the roster.
iow the same team that evaluated Williams and determined that he was a 4th round guy should replace him with someone that they evaluated and determined he's a 6th round guy?
Just a guess, but maybe the Giants think he isn't going to get drafted  
Ira : 4/25/2016 9:11 pm : link
Perhaps they're showing interest in Wilds so that he'll choose our camp to come to as a free agent and can compete with the others during training camp.
Maybe they think he has special teams ability  
Jesse B : 4/25/2016 9:14 pm : link
6th round picks are usually special teams guys. And why are so many complaining about a 6th round pick who cares what position he plays in all honest 80%+ of these guys amount to nothing in that round
Considering they rank him the 35th-best RB and 495th player overall...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/25/2016 9:29 pm : link
...the nfldraftscout report on Wilds is surprisingly positive, e.g.:
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COMPARES TO: Matt Forte, Chicago Bears -- Wilds has a very similar build to Forte with above average height and a toned athletic build. Though Forte might have a little more athletic ability, Wilds has a little more strength to his game while both excel in the passing game. Wilds likely will not be taken as high or be deemed the starter his rookie season, but he does have a likeness to Forte with his pass catching ability, vision and patience. He likely will not ever reach Forte's level, but could come close if drafted by a team who runs an inside zone running scheme and utilizes his receiving skills out of the backfield.

Obviously, the injuries kill his draft stock.
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RE: RE: RE: Stuff like this makes no sense to me  
bigbluehoya : 4/25/2016 9:30 pm : link
In comment 12921107 Bill L said:
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In comment 12921083 bigbluehoya said:


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In comment 12921005 Bill L said:


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I get that they might want to improve at RB, but they already have 4. What is the likelihood a low round pick offers any benefit?



I don't agree with this.

As far as positions go, it seems like RB is where you have the highest probability of finding a player who can play and contribute in the NFL. Chances of finding a player better than Andre Williams are strong to quite strong...and I'm in favor of anything that pushes him off the roster.

iow the same team that evaluated Williams and determined that he was a 4th round guy should replace him with someone that they evaluated and determined he's a 6th round guy?


You say that as if they just drafted Andre Williams yesterday and their evaluation of him is unchanged. They have tons more information now. He's no longer their 4th round draft pick, he's a RB on their roster who hasn't been impressive and whose skill set doesn't seem well-suited to the offense they're running.
Wilds  
allstarjim : 4/25/2016 9:34 pm : link
Is the 35th ranked RB prospect, 495th overall, ranked by CBSSports, projected as UDFA.

He is the 22nd ranked RB prospect by Drafttek, 324th overall (also a UDFA ranking).

He is the 24th ranked RB prospect by Ourlads (no overall ranking).

So of course Reese will burn a 6th on a guy that would probably be available as a UDFA. And I know what you're going to say... if he's a UDFA there's no guarantee that we get him, and no guarantee that he doesn't get drafted after we pick in the 6th round. But I highly doubt we are going to really regret it if he gets away.
He couldn't stay healthy for 1 full season in  
barens : 4/25/2016 9:38 pm : link
College football. Maybe it's just me, but I'd hope he's off our draft board, and more of a rookie FA type of signing.

Regarding the log jam we have at the position, drafting Elliott or Henry within the first to rounds is an upgrade to the depth we currently have, I'd be all for it.
My 5th Round Pick..  
Bluesbreaker : 4/25/2016 10:16 pm : link
Was Kieth Marshal RB Georgia what he would be
IF the Giants Selected him is the Fastest RB
on the team . Can''t teach 4.31
Drafting a RB this year is NOT a bad idea  
SGMen : 4/25/2016 10:27 pm : link
Best case scenario is that Dwarka, Williams and Vereen all look GREAT in camp and a rookie does too. Odd man out is old man Jennings.

Jennings is "cut" on the final round of cuts and told to stay in shape just in case.

You have to hope the young guys develop. 31 year old running backs who have done really well in the NFL are far and few between. Most fall off at age 31, and by age 32 you are certainly done.
There is no RB  
Doomster : 4/25/2016 11:14 pm : link
on this team, that stands out.....the right guy could beat out any that we have right now...
Darkwa has to prove  
RAIN : 4/25/2016 11:16 pm : link
he can take a hard hit and return to the game. He's looked good in limited action, but he couldn't make it through the shots he took.

Jennings has had limited carries and should be able to make it through the season.

This year I really like Jonathan Williams of Arkansas, CJ Prosise, and Kenyan Drake. Any of these guys late in Rd. 3 will present value in a deep draft.

Oh.. and really like Darius Jackson  
RAIN : 4/25/2016 11:21 pm : link
Eastern Michigan, later in the draft. Looks to have real deal size, speed, wiggle, and vision.. albeit at a lower level of competition.
RE: Oh.. and really like Darius Jackson  
TC : 4/25/2016 11:46 pm : link
In comment 12921328 RAIN said:
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Eastern Michigan, later in the draft. Looks to have real deal size, speed, wiggle, and vision.. albeit at a lower level of competition.

You informed me of Darius Jackson, and he looks really good. Big, fast, strong and shifty. A nice set of tools. This video is him against LSU, and he still looks good against higher competition.

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RE: Rather take a shot at another position  
santacruzom : 4/26/2016 2:21 am : link
In comment 12921080 Jim Burt64 said:
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I think Darkwa was severely underutilized last yr.


And I imagine it will be the same this year.
RE: Darkwa has to prove  
Bill L : 4/26/2016 7:17 am : link
In comment 12921322 RAIN said:
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he can take a hard hit and return to the game. He's looked good in limited action, but he couldn't make it through the shots he took.

Jennings has had limited carries and should be able to make it through the season.

This year I really like Jonathan Williams of Arkansas, CJ Prosise, and Kenyan Drake. Any of these guys late in Rd. 3 will present value in a deep draft.
Relative to the guys we have on the roster, Round 3 is not the same as round 6. I can see round 3.
Not that I would do it  
Bill L : 4/26/2016 7:17 am : link
but at least there's a rationale to it.
RE: Stuff like this makes no sense to me  
Pat from Inside Football : 4/26/2016 9:04 am : link
In comment 12921005 Bill L said:
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I get that they might want to improve at RB, but they already have 4. What is the likelihood a low round pick offers any benefit?


You build toward the future. Chances are they might move on from Jennings after this year if his production doesn't match his cap figure. Next year is Williams' fourth and final year of his rookie deal; if he doesn't pan out, then you have guys in your pipeline that you've developed.
I have faith in  
Giantophile : 4/26/2016 10:00 am : link
a Darkwa, Jennings, Vereen attack for this season. I think Darkwa really flashed. A late round pick on a RB is absurd to me.
Rashad Jennings is kind of a unique case with regard to age.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/26/2016 10:17 am : link
Yes, he turned 31 last month, and he has been hurt a lot. On the other hand, he has a total of about 900 NFL touches, and none of his many injuries have been of the career-altering variety.

For perspective: Adrian Peterson, who was born the same week, had more touches by 2009 than Jennings has in his entire career. Peterson also had to come back from a torn ACL. Although they are the same age, I think Jennings is younger in football terms. The calendar will catch up to him eventually, but at this point the problem isn't age, it's his longstanding lack of durability.
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