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Who I think / What I want / And the surprise picks

Sy'56 : 4/26/2016 1:07 pm
Couple days away now...Ready for the mock drafts and "news" to go bye bye.

That said here is what I think will happen, what I want to happen, and a potential surprise at #10.

What I think:

Leonard Floyd - LB/Georgia

I've been saying it for months now and I am going to hold on to it. Reese likes the high upside athletes early in the draft and he will gamble on them. This is also a role that they've been trying (and failing) to fill for years. Sintim/Kiwanuka/Schofield...Floyd may be the most ideal guy for the 4-3 OLB/pass rusher role.

Backup plan:

Jack Conklin - OT/Michigan State

I think NYG wants more athleticism up front, especially on the right side. Conklin comes in and likely takes the week 1 starting gig at RT and gives the NYG OL four really young pieces to grow together in the trenches. Conklin will be there and I think he is one of the safest picks in the class.

What I want:

Myles Jack - LB/UCLA

Again, I have been saying Jack is THE linebacker in this draft for 5 months now. This guy stays on the field every play and he is someone the QB needs to look for every play. He can do it all. He changes the defense week 1 and NYG has had a hole there for too long. The knee reports are there, yes. But I take a chance on him. Have to be a gmabler at some points.

Backup plan

Vernon Hargreaves - CB/Florida

The NYG depth at CB has really hurt them in recent years and quality slot WRs have been torching them. Hargreaves solves that issue week 1 and gives you the potential for more down the road. I think there is a shot he takes a little fall Thursday night in to the Giants lap. He can be trusted on and off the field and gives the secondary a young, inexpensive star to work with.

The Surprise Picks:

Robert Nkemdiche - DT/Ole Miss

I don't have inside information and I won't pretend to like some of the writers. But I do know they brought this kid in and I do know they don't bring guys in for "smokescreens". And I do now Nkemdiche hasn't been bad in interviews around the league, he's simply a different personality. And I do know his pot "problem" is no worse than Bosa's, yet people don't talk about Bosa at all. Wonder why? And no its not because of the isolated hotel incident. Nkemdiche has special, rare talent and NYG could really use him inside. If Reese wants to take a chance knowing he is near the end if they have another bad year, might as well go big or go home.

Backup plan

Josh Doctson - WR/TCU

So I have been told Doctson is the #1 WR on "at least 5 boards" around the league. NYG has been tied to Treadwell mostly but I think Reese will have a thing for Doctson. Very smooth mover with elite ball skills. He gets open consistently and he loves that. And even the most glass half-full guy will tell you NYG needs another WR on this team. A good one. Doctson could be their guy.
I hate that..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/26/2016 1:10 pm : link
Floyd is being talked about so much as the Giants pick, because it really is looking like it will happen, but I 100% agree with you on Jack instead.

If Jack isn't the pick, I'm hoping either Floyd is gone by #10 or the Giants find a trading partner and drop down to #15 to #20.
Would be fine with any of the first 4 you mention  
jeff57 : 4/26/2016 1:11 pm : link
Nkemdiche is too risky.
I'd  
Jon in NYC : 4/26/2016 1:12 pm : link
love to trade down to 15 or 20 and grab an extra 2nd or 3rd but I just don't see it happening. For better or worse I'd be stunned if Floyd wasn't the guy.
Suprise picks  
Gmen108021 : 4/26/2016 1:12 pm : link
how could it be nkemdiche?!? i havent seen him mocked like anywhere near top 15 after all the chracter and hussle concerns...
him and stanley would severely piss me off.

Jack would be ideal

for me its between jack and elliot...after that the impact the player will have is less.
Giants go by Tiers right?

my guess
tier 1---ramsey, tunsil, jack, bosa, buckner, elliot
tier 2---Floyd, hargreaves, conklin, stanley, treadwell
Sy - can you give us the same thoughts for rounds 2-4?  
Tom in NY : 4/26/2016 1:13 pm : link
Your insights are appreciated!
If I'm swinging for the fences  
JonC : 4/26/2016 1:17 pm : link
I'd draft Jack or Nkemdiche.

Part of me wants to draft Decker or Conklin rather than gamble with a top 10 pick.
Wouldn't  
Jon in NYC : 4/26/2016 1:20 pm : link
surprise me at all if the Giants had Floyd rated higher than Jack, especially with the knee concerns.
I  
AcidTest : 4/26/2016 1:22 pm : link
absolutely hope that the Giants don’t take Jack. This team has lead the league in injuries that last two years, and has massive holes all over the roster. How can anybody be sure he can play? The doctor’s reports are just speculation. There’s no way to know, and it’s therefore far too risky at #10. I’d take Floyd or even Nkemdiche at #10 before Jack. My hope is that Reese trades down, but he’s 0 for 66 as a GM in that regard.
I would love  
Boatie Warrant : 4/26/2016 1:23 pm : link
The Nkemdiche pick if Jack is gone. With his push up the middle and strength, on top of Hankins or Snacks with Vernon and JPP chasing the QB......would make our secondary look like world beaters.
RE: Wouldn't  
GuzzaBlue : 4/26/2016 1:26 pm : link
In comment 12922167 Jon in NYC said:
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surprise me at all if the Giants had Floyd rated higher than Jack, especially with the knee concerns.


I think you are right. With the injury as well as Floyd's pass rush ability.
We can't live in fear..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/26/2016 1:27 pm : link
of past injuries. Jack and Smith are the top two LB's this year. Jack can play now. Smith can't. But you have a steep dropoff from there. Either take Jack at #10 or pass on a LB in round 1.

Floyd is going to be a bust. I never make that type of proclamation, so mark my words.
Tall skinny DE  
averagejoe : 4/26/2016 1:30 pm : link
is not the Giants OLB/DE profile. I will be very surprised if it is Floyd.

My guess is it will be Conklin. A whiteboy OL from the Big Ten is EXACTLY the Giants profile.

That said - I would prefer Giants trade down and add a two and select Doctson or Treadwell. It won't happen.
I line up with Sy  
Randy in CT : 4/26/2016 1:31 pm : link
pretty much.
Mike Silver  
Big Rick in FL : 4/26/2016 1:33 pm : link
Said many in the NFL believe the Giants will take Jack if he's there. I'd be sooooo happy.
Have to get to  
Glover : 4/26/2016 1:35 pm : link
plan D before I agree with you.
Jack's knee  
Mike B from JC : 4/26/2016 1:35 pm : link
Scares me. Want nothing to do with Conklin, has problems with edge rushers,tested by counters with slow feet. Floyd, is healthy with a high upside. Wr can wait until rd2 or 3.
Acid test  
Glover : 4/26/2016 1:36 pm : link
speaks wisdom.
RE: Tall skinny DE  
GuzzaBlue : 4/26/2016 1:37 pm : link
In comment 12922199 averagejoe said:
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is not the Giants OLB/DE profile. I will be very surprised if it is Floyd.

My guess is it will be Conklin. A whiteboy OL from the Big Ten is EXACTLY the Giants profile.

That said - I would prefer Giants trade down and add a two and select Doctson or Treadwell. It won't happen.


I've been hoping for a trade down all along. You can get to 15-20 range (if you find a team willing). Add a second hopefully. Conklin, Floyd, Lee, Doctson all have much more value in that range. There will be a ton of value in the second, where having multiple picks could pay back for filling needs with upside.
I don't know much about Doctson  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/26/2016 1:37 pm : link
but based on his write up I could live with each of those 6 picks
The Giants  
Glover : 4/26/2016 1:37 pm : link
will not pick Floyd.
regarding Floyd, are there any 4-3 linebackers in the NFL  
barens : 4/26/2016 1:37 pm : link
Who play that position that they supposedly envision? I don't know of any real impact players who are 4-3 linebackers on 1st and 2nd down, and a DE on 3rd down.
It would be a ton  
Jon in NYC : 4/26/2016 1:37 pm : link
of fun to see Jack every week. I don't think it will happen, but we shall soon see.
RE: Tall skinny DE  
Glover : 4/26/2016 1:39 pm : link
In comment 12922199 averagejoe said:
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is not the Giants OLB/DE profile. I will be very surprised if it is Floyd.

My guess is it will be Conklin. A whiteboy OL from the Big Ten is EXACTLY the Giants profile.

That said - I would prefer Giants trade down and add a two and select Doctson or Treadwell. It won't happen.

The 2 young African Americans they took from LSU and Miami must have been anomalies.
I'm good with the line  
Rocky369 : 4/26/2016 1:39 pm : link
Jack would be awesome, otherwise, complete the OL with Conklin, or pair the speedy Nkemdiche with Snacks. Compliment what you've already started to build.
PLEASE JACK FALL TO 10  
SicilianGMEN : 4/26/2016 1:40 pm : link
We would have to take him....incredible athlete and very smart player
I'm fine with..  
est1986 : 4/26/2016 1:40 pm : link
Jack
Floyd
Hargreaves III
Conklin
Not going to be happy with Doctson though if he's the pick I will trust these pick until proven otherwise.

Would be thrilled if we draft Nkdemiche and if he's the pick I fully trust that we just picked the next star DT.

RE: I  
GuzzaBlue : 4/26/2016 1:41 pm : link
In comment 12922170 AcidTest said:
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absolutely hope that the Giants don’t take Jack. This team has lead the league in injuries that last two years, and has massive holes all over the roster. How can anybody be sure he can play? The doctor’s reports are just speculation. There’s no way to know, and it’s therefore far too risky at #10. I’d take Floyd or even Nkemdiche at #10 before Jack. My hope is that Reese trades down, but he’s 0 for 66 as a GM in that regard.


I have a feeling Jack is going to be there and they are going to take Floyd. I can't remember a draft where so many players with upside have red flags (Jack, Smith, Nkemdiche, Spence, even Bosa-drugs and Tunsil-never played a full season). These are all potential top ten players without the flags- just amazing.
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AcidTest : 4/26/2016 1:46 pm : link
In comment 12922236 GuzzaBlue said:
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absolutely hope that the Giants don’t take Jack. This team has lead the league in injuries that last two years, and has massive holes all over the roster. How can anybody be sure he can play? The doctor’s reports are just speculation. There’s no way to know, and it’s therefore far too risky at #10. I’d take Floyd or even Nkemdiche at #10 before Jack. My hope is that Reese trades down, but he’s 0 for 66 as a GM in that regard.



I have a feeling Jack is going to be there and they are going to take Floyd. I can't remember a draft where so many players with upside have red flags (Jack, Smith, Nkemdiche, Spence, even Bosa-drugs and Tunsil-never played a full season). These are all potential top ten players without the flags- just amazing.


I hope you’re right. But I could absolutely see the Giants taking Jack. Reese doesn’t seem like he will change his draft strategy simply because his job is in jeopardy. I’m not even completely sold on Treadwell. He had a bad break and a dislocated ankle. But he did play last year, and put up excellent numbers.
RE:We can't live in fear of past injuries.  
Trainmaster : 4/26/2016 1:47 pm : link
Given the last 3 years, I don't know how you can say that.

It appears that a track record of injuries / missed games in college are strong indicators of injuries and missed games in college (see Kennard etc.)

I want for round 1:

1) BPA
2) With an outstanding track record relative to few/no injuries/missed games
3) In a position of need


Don't know how you don't pick Jack if Medical Staff signs off.  
Watson : 4/26/2016 1:48 pm : link
There are very few elite type players in this draft. Jack, if healthy, is one. Nkemdiche surprised not more discussion. There's been players taken higher than 10 with far worse pasts.

Sy, thanks again for all of your contributions.
Nkemdiche  
David B. : 4/26/2016 1:54 pm : link
I wonder if his personality quirks might be easier for a McAdoo to swallow than a Coughlin? (I don't know the answer.)

I do know the Giants like to lead the league in guys with hard to pronounce names. Which has worked out better than leading the league in Coreys -- as they did in the 90s.

But I doubt it will be Nkemdiche. Guy like Ogbah has a name that sounds like a Giants DL.

I'm hoping a 1st row guy who's rated higher than Floyd falls to them, and they take it. Jack would be ideal, Elliot would be an impact player at a position of less need. Stanley or Conklin? I'd be FINE with an OT. I just don't think the Giants will do it.

I'd be fine with Treadwell or a WR they might like more. Anyone thinking Shaq Lawson is still in the picture?

If it's Floyd, I hope Sy's right, and he can be more than a niche player. I'll probably remain unconvinced until I see it on the field.




RE: We can't live in fear..  
Capt. Don : 4/26/2016 1:56 pm : link
In comment 12922191 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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of past injuries. Jack and Smith are the top two LB's this year. Jack can play now. Smith can't. But you have a steep dropoff from there. Either take Jack at #10 or pass on a LB in round 1.

Floyd is going to be a bust. I never make that type of proclamation, so mark my words.


Im with you.I am not a professional scout and dont pretend to be but Floyd's draft profile just reads like a 2nd round pick to me.

I don't think Jack will there but I think other things will break the Giants way.

For example:

I think Lynch goes top 10. He just feels like that Christian Ponder/EJ Manuel type of prospect where teams who need QBs start to panic and gamble on a guy with "all the tools."

I also think the idea of Chicago taking Elliot could scare the Dolphins into a pretty fortuitous trade for us. Trade down to 13 and still have lots of options that were being considered at 10.
Each player is different...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/26/2016 1:56 pm : link
if you pass on Jack because Hakeem Nicks and Victor Cruz suffered career-altering injuries than you aren't exhibiting good judgment, only a bias.

Check out Jack. If he's cleared by doctors (of which one of his is a Giants doctor), then consider him healthy and draft him.

It isn't like we have a slew of injuries because we draft injured guys. JPP didn't have a proclivity to blow off digits in college. David Wilson wasn't drafted thinking his neck was precarious. Chad Jones wasn't drafted after doing a liklihood of crashing a car test.
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GuzzaBlue : 4/26/2016 2:04 pm : link
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absolutely hope that the Giants don’t take Jack. This team has lead the league in injuries that last two years, and has massive holes all over the roster. How can anybody be sure he can play? The doctor’s reports are just speculation. There’s no way to know, and it’s therefore far too risky at #10. I’d take Floyd or even Nkemdiche at #10 before Jack. My hope is that Reese trades down, but he’s 0 for 66 as a GM in that regard.



I have a feeling Jack is going to be there and they are going to take Floyd. I can't remember a draft where so many players with upside have red flags (Jack, Smith, Nkemdiche, Spence, even Bosa-drugs and Tunsil-never played a full season). These are all potential top ten players without the flags- just amazing.



I hope you’re right. But I could absolutely see the Giants taking Jack. Reese doesn’t seem like he will change his draft strategy simply because his job is in jeopardy. I’m not even completely sold on Treadwell. He had a bad break and a dislocated ankle. But he did play last year, and put up excellent numbers.


Yea I could see the Bucs taking Floyd actually. And Jack still being there. Hey, maybe that will be a good thing down the road (no one knows as of now). I agree Reese isn't going to change his strategy. Treadwell to me is just plain slow. I'm not sure the ceiling with him is that high. No way will he be a Dez. I loved him at first and though perfect compliment as our #2, but he appears slow to me.
We have nothing to fear . . .  
jeff57 : 4/26/2016 2:08 pm : link
but fear of Jack's knee itself.
Your 'what I want' is the same as mine  
Torrag : 4/26/2016 2:14 pm : link
Jack if he's there, he won't be unfortunately. Hargreaves if he isn't, strong chance he also is not there.

If that scenario materializes it's time for Reese's first trade down as Giants GM because the value for cost starts at #15.
....  
allstarjim : 4/26/2016 2:20 pm : link
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Sy'56 : 1:07 pm
Couple days away now...Ready for the mock drafts and "news" to go bye bye.

That said here is what I think will happen, what I want to happen, and a potential surprise at #10.

What I think:

Leonard Floyd - LB/Georgia

I've been saying it for months now and I am going to hold on to it. Reese likes the high upside athletes early in the draft and he will gamble on them. This is also a role that they've been trying (and failing) to fill for years. Sintim/Kiwanuka/Schofield...Floyd may be the most ideal guy for the 4-3 OLB/pass rusher role.

Backup plan:

Jack Conklin - OT/Michigan State

I think NYG wants more athleticism up front, especially on the right side. Conklin comes in and likely takes the week 1 starting gig at RT and gives the NYG OL four really young pieces to grow together in the trenches. Conklin will be there and I think he is one of the safest picks in the class.

What I want:

Myles Jack - LB/UCLA

Again, I have been saying Jack is THE linebacker in this draft for 5 months now. This guy stays on the field every play and he is someone the QB needs to look for every play. He can do it all. He changes the defense week 1 and NYG has had a hole there for too long. The knee reports are there, yes. But I take a chance on him. Have to be a gmabler at some points.

Backup plan

Vernon Hargreaves - CB/Florida

The NYG depth at CB has really hurt them in recent years and quality slot WRs have been torching them. Hargreaves solves that issue week 1 and gives you the potential for more down the road. I think there is a shot he takes a little fall Thursday night in to the Giants lap. He can be trusted on and off the field and gives the secondary a young, inexpensive star to work with.


I agree with all of this. I do want Jack, and if he's not there, even though I'm a bit torn about it, I think the smart pick is Conklin... like you said, he's one of the safest picks in this class, he checks every box in terms of character, work ethic, and is a perfect fit at right tackle. The other part of me says you don't take a right tackle at 10. But in this draft, where there are question marks about a lot of guys, I think maybe you do. Ideally I'd like them to trade down to 15 and hopefully still get Conklin, or Decker if Conklin is off the board.

But in terms of who is at the top of my wish list, it's Myles Jack. I'm a little concerned about the knee, also, but I have confidence that he's going to be just fine, and I think he's worth the risk.

If it's Floyd, though, and I do agree with you that I think that's the guy they will pick, even though there is some bust potential there, if he does what he is capable of, nobody will complain... he can have a huge impact on the game but he is going to take some time to get coached up and hopefully play with more aggression.

As far as Hargreaves, I think he can be a great nickel early. I wonder though if the better corner for the long haul is Eli Apple, Mackensie Alexander, or William Jackson III. All have really strong attributes.

I will say that I watched Hargreaves against Amari Cooper in 2014 and Apple against him, and I think Apple gave him more trouble. Nobody shuts down Cooper completely, but Apple looked a little better to me in that matchup.
RE: Tall skinny DE  
allstarjim : 4/26/2016 2:24 pm : link
In comment 12922199 averagejoe said:
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is not the Giants OLB/DE profile. I will be very surprised if it is Floyd.

My guess is it will be Conklin. A whiteboy OL from the Big Ten is EXACTLY the Giants profile.

That said - I would prefer Giants trade down and add a two and select Doctson or Treadwell. It won't happen.




Race has nothing to do with anything.
RE: I don't know much about Doctson  
allstarjim : 4/26/2016 2:27 pm : link
In comment 12922220 gidiefor said:
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but based on his write up I could live with each of those 6 picks


Doctson is similar to A.J. Green, imo. Smooth runner, deep threat, long frame, and killer ball skills.

If we trade down and the OL targets are gone, I'd be thrilled with Doctson. Really I'd be thrilled with Doctson either way, I think he's the perfect compliment to OBJ and our WR corps would be the envy of the NFL. He's a really safe prospect, too... the guy can play, high floor.
Trade down + Doctson would be my ideal  
CaptSehorn : 4/26/2016 2:46 pm : link
He and Coleman are going to be studs.

At 10: Jack or Hargreaves
Coleman is the WR  
DonQuixote : 4/26/2016 2:53 pm : link
that I would like to get, somehow.
RE: RE: Tall skinny DE  
averagejoe : 4/26/2016 2:58 pm : link
In comment 12922384 allstarjim said:
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is not the Giants OLB/DE profile. I will be very surprised if it is Floyd.

My guess is it will be Conklin. A whiteboy OL from the Big Ten is EXACTLY the Giants profile.

That said - I would prefer Giants trade down and add a two and select Doctson or Treadwell. It won't happen.





Race has nothing to do with anything.


The Giants traditionally seem to favor white guys on the OL. It's an observation. Do you have something against white guys?
RE: RE: RE: Tall skinny DE  
allstarjim : 4/26/2016 3:15 pm : link
In comment 12922485 averagejoe said:
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is not the Giants OLB/DE profile. I will be very surprised if it is Floyd.

My guess is it will be Conklin. A whiteboy OL from the Big Ten is EXACTLY the Giants profile.

That said - I would prefer Giants trade down and add a two and select Doctson or Treadwell. It won't happen.





Race has nothing to do with anything.



The Giants traditionally seem to favor white guys on the OL. It's an observation. Do you have something against white guys?


No they don't, and no I don't. They favor guys who they think have ability. Stupid comment.

Please spare me a list of white guys they have drafted signed, I know they have... and I'll spare you the list of black guys they have drafted and signed. Again, race doesn't have anything to do with it.
Surprise pick...  
Torrag : 4/26/2016 3:21 pm : link
...DE Shaq Lawson.
I'm afraid if the pick is Floyed  
micky : 4/26/2016 3:27 pm : link
Then it may be one of the final pieces that eventually get Reese fired (though the pick is one from collaboration the organization as a whole).
it will be elliott...  
BCD : 4/26/2016 3:29 pm : link
.....no smoke
Give me  
phil in arizona : 4/26/2016 3:51 pm : link
Conklin/Bell/Scooby Wright
I'd take Conklin  
bc4life : 4/26/2016 3:56 pm : link
Would seriously upgrade O-Line and enable them to be a very good running team. Based on experts, value is there and it is a very big need.

Nkemdiche - with all the talent, where was the production?

If they take an LB - like Jack's play better, but there is the knee. I cringe when I hear people talking about gambling re: injuries with the 1st round pick. People rave about his pass rush ability first, but that's not a LB's primary job, not in a 4-3. Run support and dropping in coverage. Not sure the record is compelling re: the run game. But, this is just a fan's opinion.

Hargreaves - would be okay with this, but, the anemic pass rush was major factor re: DBs getting torched.
re: second comments about LB and run support  
bc4life : 4/26/2016 3:57 pm : link
about LB, meant those comments for Floyd.
Elliott will be gone by  
bc4life : 4/26/2016 3:58 pm : link
the 10th pick, but if not - that'd be okay.
I think something being overlooked  
grizz299 : 4/26/2016 4:57 pm : link
If Jack falls to us it's because 9 (or 7) teams have passed on him and the only reason they'd pass is fear of the knee.
I know it sounds simplistic, but can you gamble on a guy where seven medical staffs said the knee was a concern?..And that's what passing on him means.

I think this team is close, I don't want to gamble we don't need to, just get a solid productive player and let's take our chances
RE: RE: RE: RE: Tall skinny DE  
YahBoo33 : 4/26/2016 5:30 pm : link
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is not the Giants OLB/DE profile. I will be very surprised if it is Floyd.

My guess is it will be Conklin. A whiteboy OL from the Big Ten is EXACTLY the Giants profile.

That said - I would prefer Giants trade down and add a two and select Doctson or Treadwell. It won't happen.





Race has nothing to do with anything.



The Giants traditionally seem to favor white guys on the OL. It's an observation. Do you have something against white guys?



No they don't, and no I don't. They favor guys who they think have ability. Stupid comment.

Please spare me a list of white guys they have drafted signed, I know they have... and I'll spare you the list of black guys they have drafted and signed. Again, race doesn't have anything to do with it.


Agree; race nothing to do with the OL.
However, "... I do now Nkemdiche hasn't been bad in interviews around the league, he's simply a different personality. And I do know his pot "problem" is no worse than Bosa's, yet people don't talk about Bosa at all..."
I can't say the same about this.
If Jack is gone, I'll take Conklin  
wigs in nyc : 4/26/2016 6:55 pm : link
i'm having a hard time getting excited about Hargreaves, but that's probably my biases.
RE: Tall skinny DE  
Klaatu : 4/26/2016 7:04 pm : link
In comment 12922199 averagejoe said:
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is not the Giants OLB/DE profile. I will be very surprised if it is Floyd.

My guess is it will be Conklin. A whiteboy OL from the Big Ten is EXACTLY the Giants profile.

That said - I would prefer Giants trade down and add a two and select Doctson or Treadwell. It won't happen.


How many whiteboy OLs from the Big Ten are on the Giants' roster now?

How many have they drafted in the last (big) ten years?
great post and thread Sy thx  
hitdog42 : 4/26/2016 7:25 pm : link
the ties to Treadwell would not play out at 10 based on grade. Not in the mix at that 10 spot- 2nd round 100%---- in between, maybe.
What ties do Giants have with Floyd that are even remotely  
Jimmy Googs : 4/26/2016 7:32 pm : link
credible other than Reese going to the Georgia Pro Day?

Please don't say silly articles from Graziano and Ranaan...
I really don't want Floyd but I am resigned to the fact  
Victor in CT : 4/27/2016 7:38 am : link
that Reese has a woodrow for him and will take him if he's there.

I'd like Conklin, Hargeaves, and agree that Nkedmiche is worth the gamble. Jack's knee worries me, but the agent seems pretty believable that it isn't so bad.
I really don't want Floyd but I am resigned to the fact  
Victor in CT : 4/27/2016 7:40 am : link
that Reese has a woodrow for him and will take him if he's there.

I'd like Conklin, Hargeaves, and agree that Nkedmiche is worth the gamble. Jack's knee worries me, but the agent seems pretty believable that it isn't so bad.
Elliot only has to get past 2 Teams  
GMen23 : 4/27/2016 7:51 am : link
I agree with the consensus glaring needs in play at 10.

LB/Pass Rusher, WR, OL, CB

However looking at picks 3-9, the only prime candidates to have Elliot on their radar IMO are:

4. Dallas - would be hard pressed to not take a Pass Rusher or Ramsey.
8. Cleveland - need everything, and probably like Duke Johnson, but need a splash.

Zeke is becoming more possible than I ever wanted or thought 2 months ago. Biggest impact to me, besides a healthy Jack. Tops my wish list.
Again, can anyone point to some connection with the Giants and Floyd  
Jimmy Googs : 4/27/2016 8:02 am : link
other than Reese attending the Georgia Pro Day?

Not trying to be challenging. But would like to temper down the number of "I am convinced that Reese loves Floyd" posts over the next 24 hours or so if there is nothing else.

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