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MetsAreBack : 4/26/2016 3:22 pm
Sick of looking at that game 5 thread and envisioning a happy hudson and Steelgiant jumping up and down for joy with their Crosby and "Kristopher Allen" Letang blow-up dolls.

Lets discuss early offseason news and our golf and summer plans here, but lets also see the hatred flowing as we root against ....well... everybody. The only worse EC final 4 i can think of would be to swap in Flyers or Devils for Tampa, and that's impossible under the new playoff format. And Tampa sucks too.

So fuck 'em all - I want to see pain, inept officiating as we saw in NYI/FL games 5 & 6, coaches challenges and long delays, 3 OT games with the home team losing, *lulz* quotes from kwhite2250 that the 'sky is falling' on NYI threads, and of course, a Western Conference Champion.
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RE: Great fuckin article  
pjcas18 : 6/8/2016 11:35 am : link
In comment 12984765 Davisian said:
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From a dude I used to loathe.
Kerry Fraser - ( New Window )


Thanks for posting this. Very interesting read. The apology to Fleury was great. I always hated Andy Van Hellmond the most.
RE: Sure, it's not Hagelin's fault  
NYerInMA : 6/8/2016 11:55 am : link
In comment 12985934 Greg from LI said:
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But I'm never, ever rooting for a Penguins championship. Sorry.

Apparently the path to the Cup is getting dumped by the Rangers. Rangers dump Gaborik in 2013, he wins the Cup with the Kings in 2014. Richards gets bought out in 2014, wins with the Hawks in 2015. Hagelin is traded in 2015, wins in 2016.


Keith Yandle's going to win a Cup next year, then. :(
Predictions?  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2016 1:04 pm : link
I really think if the Sharks win this the series becomes almost 50/50.

game 6 at home, backs to the wall, Sharks should win and almost every game 7 is a toss up.

I do not think we'll see handshakes tonight.

the only NHL Stanley Cup winning celebration I've missed in my not little kid life, was the Bruins. Couldn't stomach that one, the rest of them I enjoy.
RE: Predictions?  
NYerInMA : 6/9/2016 1:19 pm : link
In comment 12987552 pjcas18 said:
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I really think if the Sharks win this the series becomes almost 50/50.

game 6 at home, backs to the wall, Sharks should win and almost every game 7 is a toss up.

I do not think we'll see handshakes tonight.

the only NHL Stanley Cup winning celebration I've missed in my not little kid life, was the Bruins. Couldn't stomach that one, the rest of them I enjoy.


Honestly, I think the Sharks' best chance to win the series ended with Game 4. They had a chance to tie the series, at home, and the laid an enormous egg. I think they win tonight and lose at home in Game 6.
predictions are too depressing  
Greg from LI : 6/9/2016 1:24 pm : link
I will just hope against all available evidence that the Sharks shock the world. And, given their postseason history, it would be nifty if for once they were the ones making the miracle comeback instead of the ones choking away the series.
I said before  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2016 1:27 pm : link
you don't get to the SCF and change your approach, but if i were the Sharks I would.

they need to find a way to slow down the Penguins and neutral zone trap or a left-wing lock approach is the most proven recent way to combat speed.

Plus the Sharks are a veteran team, they should be able to adjust.

If they do that and can put a barrage on Murray I think he'll cave.
Traveling to Maryland during the game  
Giants in 07 : 6/9/2016 1:28 pm : link
Hoping the Pens win it tonight so I don't have to see Hagelin lift the cup.

Rangers management should be embarrassed.
RE: Traveling to Maryland during the game  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2016 1:36 pm : link
In comment 12987584 Giants in 07 said:
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Hoping the Pens win it tonight so I don't have to see Hagelin lift the cup.

Rangers management should be embarrassed.


That never bothers me anymore, because I got used to it at an early age.

I watched Chelios and Roy hoist cups with other teams (they won in MTL too, but still) so no NHL player winning a cup for another team would phase me anymore.

Hertl out again  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2016 1:56 pm : link
he was probably their best player the first three games.
holy shit  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2016 8:02 pm : link
Murray  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2016 8:23 pm : link
is going to be the worst goalie to win a stanley cup?
1-0  
Route 9 : 6/9/2016 8:23 pm : link
Sharks
.  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2016 8:27 pm : link
2 - 0
2 - 1  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2016 8:31 pm : link
pp goal due to stupid automatic puck over the glass penalty
2 - 2  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2016 8:32 pm : link
looked like Hagelin
LOL  
Route 9 : 6/9/2016 8:33 pm : link
Who else?
Kessel  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2016 8:39 pm : link
fans on the go-ahead, Pens to the PP
3 -2 SJ  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2016 8:51 pm : link
actually turned into a good game. Jones is keeping SJ in it.

another softie by Murray
smack-a-dack  
Route 9 : 6/9/2016 8:51 pm : link
Baby
That was a pretty pass by Couture  
bigbluehoya : 6/9/2016 8:55 pm : link
.
Wow  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2016 9:28 pm : link
ref right there and let's the dangerous hit from behind go
Jones  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2016 9:53 pm : link
is on fire. this game could be a blowout
omg hockey playoffs are the  
Route 9 : 6/9/2016 10:27 pm : link
BEST...I hope San Jose wins
Score states the same and you're Pittsburgh. ..  
Route 9 : 6/9/2016 10:44 pm : link
When do you pull goalie?
stays  
Route 9 : 6/9/2016 10:46 pm : link
***
between 2 min and 90 seconds  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2016 10:47 pm : link
I pull him if the score is the same.

Sharks getting all the calls in this game.

if the pens win, can't pin it on the refs.
.....  
Route 9 : 6/9/2016 10:53 pm : link
Do you remember what happened last time? I forget the time and who was on the ice or whatever but it seemed like the Sharks waited too long to pull their goalie and they got scored on anyway, I guess hindsight is 20-20 or whatever they say. I guess that doesn't happen too often.
nice  
Route 9 : 6/9/2016 10:56 pm : link
See you in game 6!!!
Disaster averted  
NYerInMA : 6/9/2016 11:00 pm : link
for at least one more game.
these two days off in between  
pjcas18 : 6/10/2016 11:32 am : link
is killing me. Get this series over with.

And now it's going to be on against Game of Thrones.

I have to say one thing  
Greg from LI : 6/10/2016 11:35 am : link
I am so very, very sick and tired of hearing about Game of fucking Thorns
RE: I have to say one thing  
pjcas18 : 6/10/2016 11:39 am : link
In comment 12988809 Greg from LI said:
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I am so very, very sick and tired of hearing about Game of fucking Thorns


Yeah, if you don't watch it, it's probably annoying.
RE: I have to say one thing  
Davisian : 6/10/2016 11:47 am : link
In comment 12988809 Greg from LI said:
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I am so very, very sick and tired of hearing about Game of fucking Thorns



What the fuck is game of thorns?
Something Jesus played, I guess?  
Greg from LI : 6/10/2016 11:52 am : link
I'm sure it sucks as much as Game of Thrones anyway.

Autocorrect strikes again.
RE: Something Jesus played, I guess?  
Davisian : 6/10/2016 11:54 am : link
In comment 12988829 Greg from LI said:
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I'm sure it sucks as much as Game of Thrones anyway.

Autocorrect strikes again.



You should watch that. It's a good show.

not going back too deep here  
Deej : 6/10/2016 11:55 am : link
but Brooks says that per source we would not need to protect Girardi in the event of an expansion draft. His NMC would expire before the cut off.
Wish he was correct, Deej.  
bigbluehoya : 6/10/2016 5:38 pm : link
Just came across this, released today.

The way I read it is that both Nash and Girardi would need to be protected.

Not good.

So you can go ahead and scrap the whole novel I wrote last time around this week as far as a potential offseason plan.


Damn - ( New Window )
It's tough to overstate  
bigbluehoya : 6/10/2016 5:44 pm : link
How devastating it would be for the Rangers to have to use 2 of their 3 D-men protections on Staal and Girardi.
RE: It's tough to overstate  
Giants2012 : 6/10/2016 6:01 pm : link
In comment 12989425 bigbluehoya said:
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How devastating it would be for the Rangers to have to use 2 of their 3 D-men protections on Staal and Girardi.


Doubt an organization which just saw their revenues triple yet lost out on significant dollars with so few playoff games will handcuff themselves. At least one will be traded or bought out if not both.
I hope it's as easy as you make it sound  
bigbluehoya : 6/10/2016 6:04 pm : link
But I strongly suspect it isn't.

Have you looked at the cap implications of those buyouts? Not good at all, let alone for both of them.

It isn't just about the economics, it has severe cap implications.
. . .  
Giants2012 : 6/10/2016 6:09 pm : link
IMO, no move will be easy yet I don't see the organization just riding this ship into the ground by allowing, perhaps, a player like Graves get snatched up b/c they hold onto a Girardi and Staal.
RE: I hope it's as easy as you make it sound  
Deej : 6/10/2016 6:13 pm : link
In comment 12989440 bigbluehoya said:
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But I strongly suspect it isn't.

Have you looked at the cap implications of those buyouts? Not good at all, let alone for both of them.

It isn't just about the economics, it has severe cap implications.


They key part of that article is confusingly written. Not sure it contradicts Brooks.
RE: . . .  
Deej : 6/10/2016 6:15 pm : link
In comment 12989444 Giants2012 said:
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IMO, no move will be easy yet I don't see the organization just riding this ship into the ground by allowing, perhaps, a player like Graves get snatched up b/c they hold onto a Girardi and Staal.


Generally dont have to protect guys on ELCs. And Graves isnt really the worry. If you have to protect DG and Staal, kiss McDonagh or Skjei goodbye (more realistically you trade someone).
+1 for being Tired of Game of Thrones  
Route 9 : 6/10/2016 6:20 pm : link
Fucking enough already.
. . .  
Giants2012 : 6/10/2016 6:22 pm : link
you're right, it wouldn't be a player like Graves. I would anticipate more movement about the roster to protect those needing protection. If they have to throw it a player to move a Staal or use the buyout which allows the remaining dollars to be spread out they will. Buyouts aren't catostrophic unless they want to play the credit pig game and ride right along the edge of the cap on a yearly basis.
RE: RE: . . .  
bigbluehoya : 6/10/2016 6:23 pm : link
In comment 12989449 Deej said:
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In comment 12989444 Giants2012 said:


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IMO, no move will be easy yet I don't see the organization just riding this ship into the ground by allowing, perhaps, a player like Graves get snatched up b/c they hold onto a Girardi and Staal.



Generally dont have to protect guys on ELCs. And Graves isnt really the worry. If you have to protect DG and Staal, kiss McDonagh or Skjei goodbye (more realistically you trade someone).


Shouldn't need to protect Skjei as I believe he would meet the definition of 2 seasons or fewer.

Even so, it basically means there would be no sense in re-signing Yandle or making a move to acquire a D.
RE: RE: I hope it's as easy as you make it sound  
bigbluehoya : 6/10/2016 6:24 pm : link
In comment 12989447 Deej said:
Quote:
In comment 12989440 bigbluehoya said:


Quote:


But I strongly suspect it isn't.

Have you looked at the cap implications of those buyouts? Not good at all, let alone for both of them.

It isn't just about the economics, it has severe cap implications.



They key part of that article is confusingly written. Not sure it contradicts Brooks.


From your lips to God's ears, or whatever the Internet equivalent of that is.
Well, that sucked  
CaptSehorn : 6/12/2016 10:58 pm : link
Ratfuck winning conn smythe is icing on this the darkest timeline.
RE: Well, that sucked  
Rover : 6/12/2016 11:29 pm : link
In comment 12991410 CaptSehorn said:
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Ratfuck winning conn smythe is icing on this the darkest timeline.

Happy as a clam.
Well that fucking sucked  
MetsAreBack : 6/13/2016 9:23 am : link
and rover is just the worst.

Someone start a new Rangers offseason thread please - this one's run its course... now tainted by Penguins stench... and the season is over.

Its time to look forward to the draft... well not for us... but to (losing) free agents on july 1.
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