Sick of looking at that game 5 thread and envisioning a happy hudson and Steelgiant jumping up and down for joy with their Crosby and "Kristopher Allen" Letang blow-up dolls.
Lets discuss early offseason news and our golf and summer plans here, but lets also see the hatred flowing as we root against ....well... everybody. The only worse EC final 4 i can think of would be to swap in Flyers or Devils for Tampa, and that's impossible under the new playoff format. And Tampa sucks too.
So fuck 'em all - I want to see pain, inept officiating as we saw in NYI/FL games 5 & 6, coaches challenges and long delays, 3 OT games with the home team losing, *lulz* quotes from kwhite2250 that the 'sky is falling' on NYI threads, and of course, a Western Conference Champion.
Asking for a friend.
LOL, yep. That last sentence gave it away. GoldenTee lives on.
I'm still his #1 fan.
Where I might be wrong is that with Stamkos out, the Isles do have the best player in the series. And while Bishop is an advantage over Halak, Halak seems pretty hot right now.
So yeah, it's hockey and crazy things happen, but I say TB in 5.
Caps Pens, same cunty level of fuckheads on both sides, but taking off my cunt colored glasses, I see a pretty tight series. The Caps have been great all year and have a lot of talent all over, along with the goaltending, but this Pens team has some super fast and scrappy secondary players beyond their elite talent.
I say it's going 7, probably Caps..
Fuck every fucking one of them anyway..
JFC with that weed, Davidson. Halak hasn't played in 6 weeks.
Asking for a friend.
38.7% roughly.
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And while Bishop is an advantage over Halak, Halak seems pretty hot right now.
JFC with that weed, Davidson. Halak hasn't played in 6 weeks.
guilty. I did mean Griess, but then I got high..
I think this series is a better matchup for the Islanders than the last one was. All of Florida's forwards are like 6'6" and 250 lbs.. there wasn't a lot of room to operate. There will be more open ice against TB. Then again, I also thought that would be advantageous for us when we went into that series last year and it didn't play out that way at all.
Stamkos is clearly their best player but I think they can get by offensively without him.. it's Stralman they really need back because their blue line isn't all that great beyond Hedman who is a stud.
I think the Islanders squeak past TB and get bounced by Washington in the ECF.
I think this series is a better matchup for the Islanders than the last one was. All of Florida's forwards are like 6'6" and 250 lbs.. there wasn't a lot of room to operate. There will be more open ice against TB. Then again, I also thought that would be advantageous for us when we went into that series last year and it didn't play out that way at all.
Stamkos is clearly their best player but I think they can get by offensively without him.. it's Stralman they really need back because their blue line isn't all that great beyond Hedman who is a stud.
I think the Islanders squeak past TB and get bounced by Washington in the ECF.
On the power play I'll say they don't even really miss Stamkos, Drouin is lethal with his passing. But he's struggled defensively. Probably why he was in the doghouse in the first place.
I agree with you Capitals represent the East, just not sure NYI can beat TB.
Bishop could be the difference.
in the West it should be the Blues. so much talent on that team and Elliott is playing well.
If the Stars get Seguin back (doubtful) they have a better chance, but don't like either goalie.
Filip Forsberg isflat out nasty for a 21 year old, but I don't know if Nash has enough offense besides him. James Neal?
No matter who wins that series I don't see advancing beyond it even though ANA was the #1 seed.
Definitely pulling for the Sharks. A Sharks/Blues WCF would be fun just because those two fan bases have been tortured for a while now watching their teams have really good regular seasons and then blow it early in the playoffs.
+1 shocked he didn't wear the Rangers sweater and fail on broadway.
"It just hasn't been a Joe Thornton type year".
(Hope they lose Game 7)
Nashville for Nash. They're close, can't get over the hump, have some cap space and no State income tax. They have a few nice prospects too.
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Would put the Isles ahead of the Pens-or even the Caps-if you have had ANY interaction with the Caps fanbase.
Like Skin fans only far more fickle and ignorant. Hell fucking no, I'd rather the NHL disband then ever see that dirtbag Ovie win. Go Pens!
PJ-you were at that game in 1996? Man were there a ton of Pens fans there, check out the YouTube when they scored.
Back then there were always tons of opposing team fans at the Cap Center for "local" team games. My wife, then girlfriend, is a Bruins fans, so we went to the Bruins games and they practically outnumbered Caps fans.
Penguins, Flyers, Rangers all usually outnumbered Caps fans.
Now it's probably different, but this was really just when they started getting sort of popular from what I remember.
DC is a very transient area for a lot of reasons. Practically everyone is from somewhere else. In 5 years living there of the hundreds of people I met I'd say maybe 5 - 10 were from Northern Virginia and one was from DC.
Ahhh I loved those days. Never saw a Caps t shirt in the NOVA suburbs until 2008.....god I hate that fanbase.
Now the fact that 5 plays 6 and 1 plays 2 in the East Conference... and in the West, 1 plays 2 and 3v7W plays 6... is the far bigger issue
Now the fact that 5 plays 6 and 1 plays 2 in the East Conference... and in the West, 1 plays 2 and 3v7W plays 6... is the far bigger issue
Well yeah, the seeding is a mess. 1v8, 2v7, etc. was a much better system.
And unfortunately, the Ranger fan in me knows Deej is right. We'd get Stamkos and he'd be a 60 pt player the rest of his career.
Only if he's injured. Stamkos would be the most skilled Rangers player in his prime since maybe Leetch. You guys know the history better than me, that's off the top of my head.
Not sure how his numbers would look in an AV system, but the Sedins thrived under AV, so I see no reason why Stamkos wouldn't too.
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Stamkos would be the most skilled Rangers player in his prime since maybe Leetch.
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Stamkos would be the most skilled Rangers player in his prime since maybe Leetch.
Of course besides Tanner Glass, I thought that was a assumption we all knew existed.
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just has the feel of a guy who comes to the Rangers and has one season where he gets 80% of his peak production surrounded by a bunch of seasons where he is at 60-70%. Basically he'd be 5-10 points better than Brassard. I just feel it in my bones.
Only if he's injured. Stamkos would be the most skilled Rangers player in his prime since maybe Leetch. You guys know the history better than me, that's off the top of my head.
Not sure how his numbers would look in an AV system, but the Sedins thrived under AV, so I see no reason why Stamkos wouldn't too.
The blood clot issue gives major pause. Blood thinners don't go well with hockey.
And the way these things go for the Rangers, he'll never be Stamkos in his prime again if he signs here.
You try not to shit on him, but then analogize him to the flu.
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just has the feel of a guy who comes to the Rangers and has one season where he gets 80% of his peak production surrounded by a bunch of seasons where he is at 60-70%. Basically he'd be 5-10 points better than Brassard. I just feel it in my bones.
Only if he's injured. Stamkos would be the most skilled Rangers player in his prime since maybe Leetch. You guys know the history better than me, that's off the top of my head.
Not sure how his numbers would look in an AV system, but the Sedins thrived under AV, so I see no reason why Stamkos wouldn't too.
The blood clot issue gives major pause. Blood thinners don't go well with hockey.
And the way these things go for the Rangers, he'll never be Stamkos in his prime again if he signs here.
I think you sign him expecting 70 points from him the next 3-4 years.
I'd love to see him and Nash together. I think Nash would benefit immensely.
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just has the feel of a guy who comes to the Rangers and has one season where he gets 80% of his peak production surrounded by a bunch of seasons where he is at 60-70%. Basically he'd be 5-10 points better than Brassard. I just feel it in my bones.
Only if he's injured. Stamkos would be the most skilled Rangers player in his prime since maybe Leetch. You guys know the history better than me, that's off the top of my head.
Not sure how his numbers would look in an AV system, but the Sedins thrived under AV, so I see no reason why Stamkos wouldn't too.
The blood clot issue gives major pause. Blood thinners don't go well with hockey.
And the way these things go for the Rangers, he'll never be Stamkos in his prime again if he signs here.
I think you sign him expecting 70 points from him the next 3-4 years.
I'd love to see him and Nash together. I think Nash would benefit immensely.
But.. I want the 90pt seasons. :(
But you do know if we signed him the blood clots would turn into a Chris Bosh situation and his career would be derailed. That's Ranger luck.
There's also the part where what's in this for Stamkos? Come play for the 29th oldest team in the league, a franchise goalie in his mid 30s, and right up against the Cap? And dont give me NY exposure and media opportunities - its a lazy argument. Crosby generates the most off-ice revenue in the league, Toews and Ovechkin after him -- no current Ranger including Hank is in the top 10, and no NHL player is in the top 100 athletes in endorsement deals. It's just not a mainstream sport.
OK maybe he could pull a Lebron and have enough trust in himself to sign a 3-4 year deal and then sign somewhere else for huge money in 2020... but most players opt for the safer 7-8 year deals. Only way he leaves Tampa is to set the bar higher for elite players and contracts - so you are looking at a $14 million per year pricetag, most likely, at least equal to Shea Weber.
I'd still sign him for $14 mil/year by the way - just saying, i dont see it happening.
they've been clearing space to "bring him home".
they've been clearing space to "bring him home".
Agree, with Montreal a dark horse. Boston has a lot of cap space too, though I think they'll focus on signing Yandle and another 2nd line C/wing (maybe bring Lucic back)
Brassard? Hayes?
Oh and Chicago certainly doesn't want Hayes back. That did not end well.
We all talk about Buch assuming he's coming... Is it a done deal?
Subban has full NMC that kicks in on July 1 and then he's on the hook for 9M per for the next 6 years. Which isn't the worst thing in the world, he's a 26 year old almost 26+ min per game perennial Norris candidate.
The word in Habs nation is that Bergevin did not want to sign Subban to the LT contract but Molson stepped in and went over Bergevin's head.
So it's not a given that he'd even allow Bergevin to trade Subban, but it's almost a given that Bergevin will try.
Well, this is really their only chance if they want to until 2022 (without him waving his NMC which he'd have no reason to do).
I think it will be explored, but a trade would be unlikely.
I'd trade him, while I think he has the deadliest one-timer on the power play of anyone not named Ovechkin and he's such a good ambassador off the ice, he has flaws.
for $9M I think you can spend it better and the net would be a better team.
but like I said, it would be unlikely.
If the team trades Nash, the pressure on him will be enormous to be excellent quickly.
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A helluva lot is riding on him as their only prospect with plus scoring potential.
If the team trades Nash, the pressure on him will be enormous to be excellent quickly.
If this offseason goes the way we think it will - Yandle signs elsewhere, we dump Nash and/or hopefully Girardi, use all our cap space to re-sign the RFAs.... expectations will be fairly low.
I'd put us in the Boston / NJ / Buffalo / Carolina camp... battling for final wild card position.
IT's just hard to see us contending next season under any scenario short of signing Stamkos which i just really doubt happens.