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pganut : 4/27/2016 11:06 am
Hey, so...this is a new (yet old, deep in the memory banks) feeling. Rack 'em up, a new round and a new challenge. On to Tampa for a matchup against a very similar opponent.

Both sides come in with injuries, although many will run with the Stamkos/Stralman acknowledgement and look past the Halak, Lee and Grabovski gap (although Greiss has, at least for the time he's been in the starter role, rendered the Halak part moot). Meaning: both sides have issues, so deal with it.

While TB doesn't represent the size/speed/skill combo the Panthers had throughout their lineup, they do present a real challenge given their offensive skill overall, the redwood on the back line in Hedman and a world-class goalie in goliath Ben Bishop (who has shown streakiness; against the Isles this year, he's 1-2, with a 4.41 GAA and .842 SV%). But those regular season numbers mean nothing as the playoffs are its own season. We may see some more wide open hockey here as the Bolts don't play a trap system like FLA did.

Staple had a twitter Q& A with the fanbase this morning, and some of the things he discussed were:
- Pulock likely not back until after this weekend, expected to play next week
- Boychuk didn't play well in Rd 1, and he knows he needs to be better
- MDC likely called up after BPT series is over but doubts he'll play
- Feels Grabbo is probably done (his words, "a sad situation")
- Cappy's issue with Strome is 18's play away from the puck
- Outside of JT and Greiss, felt Hickey was Isles best player in Rd 1; one of the few that joined the rush regularly
- Feels there's currently a 30% chance Hammer is back with the Isles next year.
- Doesn't think KO returns, citing Free Agency doesn't come around often and he's gotta do what's best for his family. But the chances for a return are better with the first round win.
- Isles will try to move some contracts and get JT a top line LW
- Bernier's solid play has earned him a spot
- Hall for Hammer unlikely unless Isles sweeten that potential offer. Perhaps more like Draisaitl. And Hammer won't be moved for picks; Snow will demand an NHL-ready player.

But we're not talking housekeeping until the season ends. Too much hockey left to be played, more fun to be had. Drop the puck already.

Let's Go Islanders!

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Nice  
pganut : 4/27/2016 9:49 pm : link
Staple gets a shoutout on NHLN, Weekes saying that he talked earlier today about this being a chance for Strome to get back into things and contribute. 2 apples tonight, looks like he got the message.

Schneider talking about how hard it is to play the Isles because of the depth at forward, rolling 4 lines capable of beating you. Said that when they're on their forechecking game,they set the tone and are hard to beat. Wears on you when they spend time in the opposing team's zone.
Great win  
theold5j : 4/27/2016 9:55 pm : link
That backup goalie for tampa is tough. He played against us at the coliseum last December. Almost had a shutout. Isles scored 2 goals in like 15 seconds with only a few min to go in the game. Then tacked on an EN for a 3-1 win.
Exactly what the doctor ordered  
The 12th Man : 4/27/2016 10:16 pm : link
Thought we played way to much on our heals. We were hoping they would make a mistake and we could counter. We stopped being physical and it almost cost us. Learn from it, rest up and go get them in game 2. Overall if I was a gayer I would be saying 2 maybe 3 of the 5 were soft and 1 was an empty netter. That said makes no difference how you win them just win.
It should say hater where that came  
The 12th Man : 4/27/2016 10:19 pm : link
From I have no idea.
Overlook was a little weak.  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/27/2016 10:20 pm : link
No "official" Isles event, though they were there raffling off playoff tickets and signed picks again. Plus there was this huge party of like 15 chicks who happened to have a thing there and they didn't know a football from a hockey puck.

Still, a win is a win. Very upsetting to see they got so complacent at the end there. Greiss is a very good goalie. He proved it all year. It's not an aberration. Having said that, it's impossible for him to continue at this pace, it just is, and we can't just play like shit for a full period like that.

We have some gifted shooters and some very good goal tending and keeping us winning. The 4 line came alive today as well, which was my biggest positive take from the game. The first 2 periods validated we are good. The 3rd validated that we forget how to be good sometimes.

Another learning lesson hopefully, and it's nice to be "learning" while winning.

God how nice would it be to head back to Brooklyn up a pair?
I don't think they got complacent . They know better  
theold5j : 4/27/2016 10:38 pm : link
I thinks it's just natural. A team down 4-1 in a playoff game, is going to play (or should play anyway) the most desperate 10 minutes of hockey you'll ever see. Tue islanders had to fight them off and not make things easy for them. It's tough to play with a lead when the other team is pressing like crazy.
RE: Overlook was a little weak.  
pganut : 4/27/2016 10:42 pm : link
In comment 12926092 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Still, a win is a win. Very upsetting to see they got so complacent at the end there.

I thought about that for a bit, having felt they were a bit complacent as you did, and then had to think there's some fatigue factor as well. They had just played parts of 10 periods in what would normally be a 6 period stretch. I think it caught up with them on a fairly quick turnaround, but as you said, a lesson learned while winning, The mental toughness to power through when the tank is on fumes is what winning teams need to have. They're going to have to figure that out to advance.

Hey all I didnt get to watch this.  
giantgiantfan : 4/28/2016 12:05 am : link
How did we look? From the highlights it looks like trading a 3rd for Prince is turning out to be a great deal, Tavares continues to lead, and Greiss made some great stops again.

Anything else I should be aware of? Ecstatic we put up 5 and stole another game 1!
RE: I don't think they got complacent . They know better  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 12:26 am : link
In comment 12926124 theold5j said:
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I thinks it's just natural. A team down 4-1 in a playoff game, is going to play (or should play anyway) the most desperate 10 minutes of hockey you'll ever see. Tue islanders had to fight them off and not make things easy for them. It's tough to play with a lead when the other team is pressing like crazy.


I disagree old5j... it's one thing to expect a push and fall on your heels a bit. It's another to be completely dependent on your goalie playing Vezina quality play just in order to not give up FOUR goals. A lesser effort from Greiss at the end there and we might not even make it to overtime.
RE: RE: Overlook was a little weak.  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 12:27 am : link
In comment 12926133 pganut said:
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Still, a win is a win. Very upsetting to see they got so complacent at the end there.


I thought about that for a bit, having felt they were a bit complacent as you did, and then had to think there's some fatigue factor as well. They had just played parts of 10 periods in what would normally be a 6 period stretch. I think it caught up with them on a fairly quick turnaround, but as you said, a lesson learned while winning, The mental toughness to power through when the tank is on fumes is what winning teams need to have. They're going to have to figure that out to advance.


That is very fair. If the poor play at the end is the result of fatigue, it's very reasonable for sure, and considering how well they played through 2 periods, I bet that's the case. Perhaps I'm being a little hard.
Jeremy roenick  
theold5j : 4/28/2016 8:01 am : link
Was very complimentary of the islanders conditioning after the game. Praising the strength coaches
it was important to have a 2 plus lead  
feelflows : 4/28/2016 8:37 am : link
going into the third.. away + tired legs + opponents rested = disaster

time to rest up!

I need to say, because I shit on him pretty badly last series, Brock Nelson played a complete game. He competed for pucks, got in the corners, back-checked...all the things I thought he coasted on last series.

Secondary scoring will win or lose this series..it's important for these guys to keep it up.
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BrettNYG10 : 4/28/2016 8:40 am : link
Congrats on the win guys.

Very sorry to hear about your loss, 12th Man. Hope your days get better.
RE: Hey all I didnt get to watch this.  
theold5j : 4/28/2016 8:43 am : link
there was so much open ice last night compared to the florida series. Prince was standing in front of Bishop alone forever on his goal.

we deserved to win the game. definately the better team last night

on the TB 3rd goal the puck got lost in one of their player's pants and I thought there should have been a whistle. it shook out after a few seconds and they scored right after.

they had more shots than us, but mostly as a result of their 17 3rd period shots during thier mad push. it was even heading into the 3rd.

we had less give aways, more take aways and won the faceoff battle 32-21

stupid of NBC to name Kucherov one of the 3 stars instead of Tavares.

In comment 12926218 giantgiantfan said:
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Anything else I should be aware of? Ecstatic we put up 5 and stole another game 1!
I was on a plane  
feelflows : 4/28/2016 8:52 am : link
it had directTV..this was before the game. A national guy, and it pisses me off that I don't remember WHO, said..

"John Tavares is now the best current NY PRO athlete!"

true or not, it was cool to hear the recognition.
No coincedence  
Fish : 4/28/2016 9:05 am : link
KW chimes in on thread and isles give up 2 goals ;-)
pganut and gang: Congrats on last night's win...  
tony stg : 4/28/2016 9:21 am : link
... well done by the Isles.
I'll echo  
Metnut : 4/28/2016 9:27 am : link
what the other posters said, the game felt like 2014-2015 Islanders. That's a very good thing, especially if Greiss holds up.

Really glad to see Strome get involved as he's a big part of the future. Frustrating to let them back in the game in the 3rd, but it's sort of inevitable for the other team to make a push at home, glad they were able to hold on.

Zid didn't play as good as he did in games 5, 6. I think Cappy rides him again game 2, but we might see Pulock in Brooklyn is Zid doesn't improve.
Tampa  
KWhite2250 : 4/28/2016 10:02 am : link
Is 1-6-1 vs the isles in NY since 2010. So Tampa really has to put everything into game 2 on saturday
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Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 10:25 am : link
In comment 12926805 KWhite2250 said:
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Is 1-6-1 vs the isles in NY since 2010. So Tampa really has to put everything into game 2 on saturday


Are you sure you don't mean since the start of last year? 2010 seems too long ago for just 8 games.
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Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 10:26 am : link
In comment 12926874 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Is 1-6-1 vs the isles in NY since 2010. So Tampa really has to put everything into game 2 on saturday



Are you sure you don't mean since the start of last year? 2010 seems too long ago for just 8 games.


Ah crap, IN New York. My bad.
I forget who it was  
Dave M : 4/28/2016 11:02 am : link
But one of you guys was clamoring to see Strome and Nelsen play together and it finally happened. Both of them seem to have benefitted but not as much as a Prince.

One thing about Tampa is that they aren't that good in their own zone at all. When they are attacking they are lethal but the Isles were able to keep the puck moving in their zone and it really exposed them. Bishop was horrible too. You'd have to expect him to bring his A game on Saturday.
It keeps getting better for  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 11:23 am : link
"Tony the Blues Fan."

Tickets to Game 3, and was on Good Morning America with our very own Michael Strahan this morning.


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RE: pganut and gang: Congrats on last night's win...  
pganut : 4/28/2016 11:29 am : link
In comment 12926648 tony stg said:
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... well done by the Isles.
Thanks, Tony. Good luck in your series. Should be an old time barn burner!
Great win last night :)  
Bogey : 4/28/2016 11:33 am : link
Also, Barzal and Seattle swept Kelowna to advance to the finals. Kid is gonna be a stud, 5-14-19 in 13 games. Seattle lost one game in the playoffs.
Did anyone catch Francesa  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 11:41 am : link
throw a hissy fit and attack the Islanders because Cappy wouldn't take an interview?

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You know what, heres whats wrong with them right now: Theyre not Im going to be honest with you theyre not very good at promoting themselves. I gotta be honest with you: Theyre third rate at promoting themselves.

They gotta realize that this is New York and this is the big time because theyre a third-rate organization. Im sorry, they are. Theyre a third-rate organization and they dont know what theyre doing. Theyre in the playoffs in the second round now. They dont even know how to be there.

They dont know how to promote themselves. They couldnt even find the time to get the coach to show up here. We were willing to take him. They couldnt even get him to the show on time.

So I mean, they dont know what theyre doing. Theyre a little lost right now. Theyre in a little deep.

Now theyre players arent, but the organization is. Their organization right now as far as what its doing, especially from a PR standpoint, is lost. I mean, third rate at best.

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The audio is on the link  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 11:42 am : link
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The 12th Man : 4/28/2016 11:47 am : link
In comment 12926528 BrettNYG10 said:
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Congrats on the win guys.

Very sorry to hear about your loss, 12th Man. Hope your days get better.


Thanks Brett, not gonna lie, the night was a hell of a lot better after an Islander win.
RE: Did anyone catch Francesa  
Dave M : 4/28/2016 12:02 pm : link
In comment 12927170 Mike in Long Beach said:
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throw a hissy fit and attack the Islanders because Cappy wouldn't take an interview?



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You know what, heres whats wrong with them right now: Theyre not Im going to be honest with you theyre not very good at promoting themselves. I gotta be honest with you: Theyre third rate at promoting themselves.

They gotta realize that this is New York and this is the big time because theyre a third-rate organization. Im sorry, they are. Theyre a third-rate organization and they dont know what theyre doing. Theyre in the playoffs in the second round now. They dont even know how to be there.

They dont know how to promote themselves. They couldnt even find the time to get the coach to show up here. We were willing to take him. They couldnt even get him to the show on time.

So I mean, they dont know what theyre doing. Theyre a little lost right now. Theyre in a little deep.

Now theyre players arent, but the organization is. Their organization right now as far as what its doing, especially from a PR standpoint, is lost. I mean, third rate at best.

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Hey Mike, why don't you try actually showing them or hockey for that matter any respect throughout the season and maybe they'd make time to be on your show. Drop everything everyone. Fatso wants Cappy on.
RE: RE: Did anyone catch Francesa  
Dave M : 4/28/2016 12:03 pm : link
In comment 12927266 Dave M said:
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throw a hissy fit and attack the Islanders because Cappy wouldn't take an interview?



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You know what, heres whats wrong with them right now: Theyre not Im going to be honest with you theyre not very good at promoting themselves. I gotta be honest with you: Theyre third rate at promoting themselves.

They gotta realize that this is New York and this is the big time because theyre a third-rate organization. Im sorry, they are. Theyre a third-rate organization and they dont know what theyre doing. Theyre in the playoffs in the second round now. They dont even know how to be there.

They dont know how to promote themselves. They couldnt even find the time to get the coach to show up here. We were willing to take him. They couldnt even get him to the show on time.

So I mean, they dont know what theyre doing. Theyre a little lost right now. Theyre in a little deep.

Now theyre players arent, but the organization is. Their organization right now as far as what its doing, especially from a PR standpoint, is lost. I mean, third rate at best.

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Hey Mike, why don't you try actually showing them or hockey for that matter any respect throughout the season and maybe they'd make time to be on your show. Drop everything everyone. Fatso wants Cappy on.


Mike Francessa that is not MILB.
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pganut : 4/28/2016 12:26 pm : link
In comment 12926528 BrettNYG10 said:
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Congrats on the win guys.

Very sorry to hear about your loss, 12th Man. Hope your days get better.
Missed this earlier. Thanks, Brett. Isles are learning to become winners in front of our eyes. It's been nerve-wracking but more fun than anything.
Hahhahaa yeah, I was like wtf Dave?  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 12:54 pm : link
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Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 1:08 pm : link
In comment 12927366 pganut said:
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Congrats on the win guys.

Very sorry to hear about your loss, 12th Man. Hope your days get better.

Missed this earlier. Thanks, Brett. Isles are learning to become winners in front of our eyes. It's been nerve-wracking but more fun than anything.


You know what I learned relatively recently... In the five years prior to the Cup run, the Islanders went to the Eastern Conference Finals in 4 of those years, and lost in the 2nd round the other year.

Holy shit.. if you were a die hard fan and didn't know the glory that was coming, my God that must've been torture.
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timintey : 4/28/2016 2:17 pm : link
In comment 12927513 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Congrats on the win guys.

Very sorry to hear about your loss, 12th Man. Hope your days get better.

Missed this earlier. Thanks, Brett. Isles are learning to become winners in front of our eyes. It's been nerve-wracking but more fun than anything.



You know what I learned relatively recently... In the five years prior to the Cup run, the Islanders went to the Eastern Conference Finals in 4 of those years, and lost in the 2nd round the other year.

Holy shit.. if you were a die hard fan and didn't know the glory that was coming, my God that must've been torture.
Don't think they did conference finals back then - only 4 rounds total and they had byes prior to 1980 as well. 1980 was the first year that 16 teams made the playoffs and they seeded them 1-16. Isles won the cup that year as the 5th seed. Still, they did have some good runs prior to winning it all - particularly in 75.
Isn't it 4 rounds total now?  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 3:33 pm : link
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yeah, that's right - my bad  
timintey : 4/28/2016 3:36 pm : link
however, the byes back then had some teams only play 3 rounds.
For example  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 3:38 pm : link
Here is the bracket in 1979.

In 4 of those 5 years we were in the NHL's final 4, and in the final 8 in the 5th year.
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RE: yeah, that's right - my bad  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 3:39 pm : link
In comment 12927994 timintey said:
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however, the byes back then had some teams only play 3 rounds.


Well okay, but still, the idea that you were in the "Final 4" four out of five seasons, not winning in any of them... still had to have been torture, lol
Use the Giants as an example  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 3:40 pm : link
Some teams have a bye and only have to play 3 "rounds" now in the NFL.

If the Giants got to the NFC Championship game 4 out of 5 years, sometimes yes having a bye along the way, wouldn't that be such a tease if they didn't get a Super Bowl out of a stretch like that?
Has anyone sat in section 231 at Barclays?  
JayBinQueens : 4/28/2016 3:47 pm : link
Got seats in row 2 - hoping the obstruction isn't too bad...
RE: Has anyone sat in section 231 at Barclays?  
KWhite2250 : 4/28/2016 3:52 pm : link
In comment 12928069 JayBinQueens said:
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Got seats in row 2 - hoping the obstruction isn't too bad...


You are to going to see below the faceoff dots in that end
Arent  
KWhite2250 : 4/28/2016 3:55 pm : link
You arent going to see below faceoff dots. You might be able to see by leaning forward but im not too sure
RE: Has anyone sat in section 231 at Barclays?  
theold5j : 4/28/2016 3:55 pm : link
you won't see the goalie on your end. I was in 229, row 2 and i was just barely able to see the goal line. 231 should be fully obstructed. but your in the building, which is the important part.

If you want to see the game in its entirety it appears as though you could go and stand at the top of section 217. but you would have to get there pretty early on and you probably wont be able to leave or you'll lose your spot.

you could see the scoreboard to watch the game when the players disappear.




In comment 12928069 JayBinQueens said:
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Got seats in row 2 - hoping the obstruction isn't too bad...
RE: Use the Giants as an example  
timintey : 4/28/2016 4:33 pm : link
In comment 12928024 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Some teams have a bye and only have to play 3 "rounds" now in the NFL.

If the Giants got to the NFC Championship game 4 out of 5 years, sometimes yes having a bye along the way, wouldn't that be such a tease if they didn't get a Super Bowl out of a stretch like that?

I agree. I was too young to remember 75 but that was the biggest surprise run. Upset the Rangers, fell behind Pitt 3 games to 0 then won 4 straight. Fell behind Philly 3-0 then won 3 straight before losing in 7. For a team in its 3rd year that's a great run.

79 I remember. Won the President's cup only to lose to the Rangers in the semis. That hurt...
JayBinQueens  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 4:56 pm : link
Since it appears these seats have a fairly substantial obstruction according to the comments, would you mind sharing your experience here after the game? I'm sure at some point I'm going to want to go to a premium regular season game and get in the building for cheap. Would love to know if these are worth it.
Ya, for sure.  
JayBinQueens : 4/28/2016 5:38 pm : link
I'll take a pic from my seat and try to figure out how to get it on here lol
OBSTRUCTED VIEW SEAT REVIEW - section 229  
theold5j : 4/28/2016 7:51 pm : link
for those looking at or asking about obstructed seats. Here is a review of my seat

Section 229, row 2, seat 16,17

I sat here for the series clincher. From this seat I had a view of everything except the nearest corner and behind the net. My view was basically cut off at the goal line. I never lost sight if the goalie and could just about see the top of the goal iF i leand forward. I could just barely see the net. For instance. On the 1st and only florida goal I knew the puck beat Griess but I didn't see it go in. I saw the player reactions.

In this row I would say seats 1-12 have a clear view of the entire goal. And I would say the same for the first row, as well.

The seat view on ticketmaster showed that I would have a clean view of the entire goal but that wasn't the case.

All said and done I'd sit there again. Face value on ticketmaster was like 75 bucks.

And guess what I got a full view if. The tavares tying and winning goal. Because they were down the other end.
Per Staple:  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/29/2016 2:51 pm : link
Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 12m12 minutes ago
#Isles are bringing seven players up from BPT: Cliche, Florek, Dal Colle, Kearns, Mayfield, Wotherspoon, Gibson. Will meet team on LI.
Ducks  
The 12th Man : 4/29/2016 2:57 pm : link
have fired their coach.
RE: Per Staple:  
pganut : 4/29/2016 3:27 pm : link
In comment 12933382 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 12m12 minutes ago
#Isles are bringing seven players up from BPT: Cliche, Florek, Dal Colle, Kearns, Mayfield, Wotherspoon, Gibson. Will meet team on LI.
Obviously happy to see MDC and Mayfield up, although I doubt MDC will see any action. Nice reward for Wotherspoon. I'm excited about his future. Smooth skater, plays responsible 2-way hockey. 11-45-56 as an 18 year old on a team that went 35-34-2, was an assistant captain and was named the Tri-City Americans DPOY. AHL eligible for next season. Will be another bright spot for this team's future.
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