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pganut : 4/27/2016 11:06 am
Hey, so...this is a new (yet old, deep in the memory banks) feeling. Rack 'em up, a new round and a new challenge. On to Tampa for a matchup against a very similar opponent.

Both sides come in with injuries, although many will run with the Stamkos/Stralman acknowledgement and look past the Halak, Lee and Grabovski gap (although Greiss has, at least for the time he's been in the starter role, rendered the Halak part moot). Meaning: both sides have issues, so deal with it.

While TB doesn't represent the size/speed/skill combo the Panthers had throughout their lineup, they do present a real challenge given their offensive skill overall, the redwood on the back line in Hedman and a world-class goalie in goliath Ben Bishop (who has shown streakiness; against the Isles this year, he's 1-2, with a 4.41 GAA and .842 SV%). But those regular season numbers mean nothing as the playoffs are its own season. We may see some more wide open hockey here as the Bolts don't play a trap system like FLA did.

Staple had a twitter Q& A with the fanbase this morning, and some of the things he discussed were:
- Pulock likely not back until after this weekend, expected to play next week
- Boychuk didn't play well in Rd 1, and he knows he needs to be better
- MDC likely called up after BPT series is over but doubts he'll play
- Feels Grabbo is probably done (his words, "a sad situation")
- Cappy's issue with Strome is 18's play away from the puck
- Outside of JT and Greiss, felt Hickey was Isles best player in Rd 1; one of the few that joined the rush regularly
- Feels there's currently a 30% chance Hammer is back with the Isles next year.
- Doesn't think KO returns, citing Free Agency doesn't come around often and he's gotta do what's best for his family. But the chances for a return are better with the first round win.
- Isles will try to move some contracts and get JT a top line LW
- Bernier's solid play has earned him a spot
- Hall for Hammer unlikely unless Isles sweeten that potential offer. Perhaps more like Draisaitl. And Hammer won't be moved for picks; Snow will demand an NHL-ready player.

But we're not talking housekeeping until the season ends. Too much hockey left to be played, more fun to be had. Drop the puck already.

Let's Go Islanders!

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This is huge  
The 12th Man : 4/27/2016 9:34 pm : link
Have to kill this
pg  
JayBinQueens : 4/27/2016 9:35 pm : link
how's your man-crush on greiss right now compared to JT?
Huge save by  
The 12th Man : 4/27/2016 9:35 pm : link
Griess!!!!
This just got interesting  
JayBinQueens : 4/27/2016 9:36 pm : link
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Well here we go.  
BlueHurricane : 4/27/2016 9:36 pm : link
Hold on to your shit. It's about to get bumpie.
Kulie  
pganut : 4/27/2016 9:37 pm : link
Blew the clear attempt after the puck was up Callahan's sleeve for a bit.
RE: pg  
pganut : 4/27/2016 9:38 pm : link
In comment 12925955 JayBinQueens said:
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how's your man-crush on greiss right now compared to JT?
JT is the alpha and omega, Jay. But Greiss is still nice.
Bad feeling  
Dave M : 4/27/2016 9:39 pm : link
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Yes!!!!!  
timintey : 4/27/2016 9:40 pm : link
Fuck yeah!!!!
Ok  
Gutless Puke : 4/27/2016 9:40 pm : link
!
Game  
BlueHurricane : 4/27/2016 9:40 pm : link
Blouses!!!!

Nice job men!
Let me say it again  
KWhite2250 : 4/27/2016 9:41 pm : link
That was isles of 2014. Dominant and hold on for dear life! Woosh
YES!YES!YES!!!!!  
The 12th Man : 4/27/2016 9:41 pm : link
Yeah baby 1-0
Alright  
pganut : 4/27/2016 9:42 pm : link
Good game 1 win. Happy for Clutter to get one; he's deserved it.

TB serving notice that this won't come easy.

Want something fun to think about? 11 more wins...
Lightning had fresh legs  
Mike in NY : 4/27/2016 9:42 pm : link
Greiss was huge all game
I was nervous  
Fish : 4/27/2016 9:43 pm : link
Huuuuuge game 1 win.
Huge taking home ice.  
JayBinQueens : 4/27/2016 9:45 pm : link
This is going to be a fun, fast paced, high scoring series
Nice  
pganut : 4/27/2016 9:49 pm : link
Staple gets a shoutout on NHLN, Weekes saying that he talked earlier today about this being a chance for Strome to get back into things and contribute. 2 apples tonight, looks like he got the message.

Schneider talking about how hard it is to play the Isles because of the depth at forward, rolling 4 lines capable of beating you. Said that when they're on their forechecking game,they set the tone and are hard to beat. Wears on you when they spend time in the opposing team's zone.
Great win  
theold5j : 4/27/2016 9:55 pm : link
That backup goalie for tampa is tough. He played against us at the coliseum last December. Almost had a shutout. Isles scored 2 goals in like 15 seconds with only a few min to go in the game. Then tacked on an EN for a 3-1 win.
Exactly what the doctor ordered  
The 12th Man : 4/27/2016 10:16 pm : link
Thought we played way to much on our heals. We were hoping they would make a mistake and we could counter. We stopped being physical and it almost cost us. Learn from it, rest up and go get them in game 2. Overall if I was a gayer I would be saying 2 maybe 3 of the 5 were soft and 1 was an empty netter. That said makes no difference how you win them just win.
It should say hater where that came  
The 12th Man : 4/27/2016 10:19 pm : link
From I have no idea.
Overlook was a little weak.  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/27/2016 10:20 pm : link
No "official" Isles event, though they were there raffling off playoff tickets and signed picks again. Plus there was this huge party of like 15 chicks who happened to have a thing there and they didn't know a football from a hockey puck.

Still, a win is a win. Very upsetting to see they got so complacent at the end there. Greiss is a very good goalie. He proved it all year. It's not an aberration. Having said that, it's impossible for him to continue at this pace, it just is, and we can't just play like shit for a full period like that.

We have some gifted shooters and some very good goal tending and keeping us winning. The 4 line came alive today as well, which was my biggest positive take from the game. The first 2 periods validated we are good. The 3rd validated that we forget how to be good sometimes.

Another learning lesson hopefully, and it's nice to be "learning" while winning.

God how nice would it be to head back to Brooklyn up a pair?
I don't think they got complacent . They know better  
theold5j : 4/27/2016 10:38 pm : link
I thinks it's just natural. A team down 4-1 in a playoff game, is going to play (or should play anyway) the most desperate 10 minutes of hockey you'll ever see. Tue islanders had to fight them off and not make things easy for them. It's tough to play with a lead when the other team is pressing like crazy.
RE: Overlook was a little weak.  
pganut : 4/27/2016 10:42 pm : link
In comment 12926092 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Still, a win is a win. Very upsetting to see they got so complacent at the end there.

I thought about that for a bit, having felt they were a bit complacent as you did, and then had to think there's some fatigue factor as well. They had just played parts of 10 periods in what would normally be a 6 period stretch. I think it caught up with them on a fairly quick turnaround, but as you said, a lesson learned while winning, The mental toughness to power through when the tank is on fumes is what winning teams need to have. They're going to have to figure that out to advance.

Hey all I didnt get to watch this.  
giantgiantfan : 4/28/2016 12:05 am : link
How did we look? From the highlights it looks like trading a 3rd for Prince is turning out to be a great deal, Tavares continues to lead, and Greiss made some great stops again.

Anything else I should be aware of? Ecstatic we put up 5 and stole another game 1!
RE: I don't think they got complacent . They know better  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 12:26 am : link
In comment 12926124 theold5j said:
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I thinks it's just natural. A team down 4-1 in a playoff game, is going to play (or should play anyway) the most desperate 10 minutes of hockey you'll ever see. Tue islanders had to fight them off and not make things easy for them. It's tough to play with a lead when the other team is pressing like crazy.


I disagree old5j... it's one thing to expect a push and fall on your heels a bit. It's another to be completely dependent on your goalie playing Vezina quality play just in order to not give up FOUR goals. A lesser effort from Greiss at the end there and we might not even make it to overtime.
RE: RE: Overlook was a little weak.  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 12:27 am : link
In comment 12926133 pganut said:
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In comment 12926092 Mike in Long Beach said:


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Still, a win is a win. Very upsetting to see they got so complacent at the end there.


I thought about that for a bit, having felt they were a bit complacent as you did, and then had to think there's some fatigue factor as well. They had just played parts of 10 periods in what would normally be a 6 period stretch. I think it caught up with them on a fairly quick turnaround, but as you said, a lesson learned while winning, The mental toughness to power through when the tank is on fumes is what winning teams need to have. They're going to have to figure that out to advance.


That is very fair. If the poor play at the end is the result of fatigue, it's very reasonable for sure, and considering how well they played through 2 periods, I bet that's the case. Perhaps I'm being a little hard.
Jeremy roenick  
theold5j : 4/28/2016 8:01 am : link
Was very complimentary of the islanders conditioning after the game. Praising the strength coaches
it was important to have a 2 plus lead  
feelflows : 4/28/2016 8:37 am : link
going into the third.. away + tired legs + opponents rested = disaster

time to rest up!

I need to say, because I shit on him pretty badly last series, Brock Nelson played a complete game. He competed for pucks, got in the corners, back-checked...all the things I thought he coasted on last series.

Secondary scoring will win or lose this series..it's important for these guys to keep it up.
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BrettNYG10 : 4/28/2016 8:40 am : link
Congrats on the win guys.

Very sorry to hear about your loss, 12th Man. Hope your days get better.
RE: Hey all I didnt get to watch this.  
theold5j : 4/28/2016 8:43 am : link
there was so much open ice last night compared to the florida series. Prince was standing in front of Bishop alone forever on his goal.

we deserved to win the game. definately the better team last night

on the TB 3rd goal the puck got lost in one of their player's pants and I thought there should have been a whistle. it shook out after a few seconds and they scored right after.

they had more shots than us, but mostly as a result of their 17 3rd period shots during thier mad push. it was even heading into the 3rd.

we had less give aways, more take aways and won the faceoff battle 32-21

stupid of NBC to name Kucherov one of the 3 stars instead of Tavares.

In comment 12926218 giantgiantfan said:
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Anything else I should be aware of? Ecstatic we put up 5 and stole another game 1!
I was on a plane  
feelflows : 4/28/2016 8:52 am : link
it had directTV..this was before the game. A national guy, and it pisses me off that I don't remember WHO, said..

"John Tavares is now the best current NY PRO athlete!"

true or not, it was cool to hear the recognition.
No coincedence  
Fish : 4/28/2016 9:05 am : link
KW chimes in on thread and isles give up 2 goals ;-)
pganut and gang: Congrats on last night's win...  
tony stg : 4/28/2016 9:21 am : link
... well done by the Isles.
I'll echo  
Metnut : 4/28/2016 9:27 am : link
what the other posters said, the game felt like 2014-2015 Islanders. That's a very good thing, especially if Greiss holds up.

Really glad to see Strome get involved as he's a big part of the future. Frustrating to let them back in the game in the 3rd, but it's sort of inevitable for the other team to make a push at home, glad they were able to hold on.

Zid didn't play as good as he did in games 5, 6. I think Cappy rides him again game 2, but we might see Pulock in Brooklyn is Zid doesn't improve.
Tampa  
KWhite2250 : 4/28/2016 10:02 am : link
Is 1-6-1 vs the isles in NY since 2010. So Tampa really has to put everything into game 2 on saturday
RE: Tampa  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 10:25 am : link
In comment 12926805 KWhite2250 said:
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Is 1-6-1 vs the isles in NY since 2010. So Tampa really has to put everything into game 2 on saturday


Are you sure you don't mean since the start of last year? 2010 seems too long ago for just 8 games.
RE: RE: Tampa  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 10:26 am : link
In comment 12926874 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Is 1-6-1 vs the isles in NY since 2010. So Tampa really has to put everything into game 2 on saturday



Are you sure you don't mean since the start of last year? 2010 seems too long ago for just 8 games.


Ah crap, IN New York. My bad.
I forget who it was  
Dave M : 4/28/2016 11:02 am : link
But one of you guys was clamoring to see Strome and Nelsen play together and it finally happened. Both of them seem to have benefitted but not as much as a Prince.

One thing about Tampa is that they aren't that good in their own zone at all. When they are attacking they are lethal but the Isles were able to keep the puck moving in their zone and it really exposed them. Bishop was horrible too. You'd have to expect him to bring his A game on Saturday.
It keeps getting better for  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 11:23 am : link
"Tony the Blues Fan."

Tickets to Game 3, and was on Good Morning America with our very own Michael Strahan this morning.


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RE: pganut and gang: Congrats on last night's win...  
pganut : 4/28/2016 11:29 am : link
In comment 12926648 tony stg said:
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... well done by the Isles.
Thanks, Tony. Good luck in your series. Should be an old time barn burner!
Great win last night :)  
Bogey : 4/28/2016 11:33 am : link
Also, Barzal and Seattle swept Kelowna to advance to the finals. Kid is gonna be a stud, 5-14-19 in 13 games. Seattle lost one game in the playoffs.
Did anyone catch Francesa  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 11:41 am : link
throw a hissy fit and attack the Islanders because Cappy wouldn't take an interview?

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You know what, here’s what’s wrong with them right now: They’re not – I’m going to be honest with you – they’re not very good at promoting themselves. I gotta be honest with you: They’re third rate at promoting themselves.

They gotta realize that this is New York and this is the big time because they’re a third-rate organization. I’m sorry, they are. They’re a third-rate organization and they don’t know what they’re doing. They’re in the playoffs in the second round now. They don’t even know how to be there.

They don’t know how to promote themselves. They couldn’t even find the time to get the coach to show up here. We were willing to take him. They couldn’t even get him to the show on time.

So I mean, they don’t know what they’re doing. They’re a little lost right now. They’re in a little deep.

Now they’re players aren’t, but the organization is. Their organization right now as far as what it’s doing, especially from a PR standpoint, is lost. I mean, third rate at best.

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The audio is on the link  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 11:42 am : link
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RE: ....  
The 12th Man : 4/28/2016 11:47 am : link
In comment 12926528 BrettNYG10 said:
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Congrats on the win guys.

Very sorry to hear about your loss, 12th Man. Hope your days get better.


Thanks Brett, not gonna lie, the night was a hell of a lot better after an Islander win.
RE: Did anyone catch Francesa  
Dave M : 4/28/2016 12:02 pm : link
In comment 12927170 Mike in Long Beach said:
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throw a hissy fit and attack the Islanders because Cappy wouldn't take an interview?



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You know what, here’s what’s wrong with them right now: They’re not – I’m going to be honest with you – they’re not very good at promoting themselves. I gotta be honest with you: They’re third rate at promoting themselves.

They gotta realize that this is New York and this is the big time because they’re a third-rate organization. I’m sorry, they are. They’re a third-rate organization and they don’t know what they’re doing. They’re in the playoffs in the second round now. They don’t even know how to be there.

They don’t know how to promote themselves. They couldn’t even find the time to get the coach to show up here. We were willing to take him. They couldn’t even get him to the show on time.

So I mean, they don’t know what they’re doing. They’re a little lost right now. They’re in a little deep.

Now they’re players aren’t, but the organization is. Their organization right now as far as what it’s doing, especially from a PR standpoint, is lost. I mean, third rate at best.

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Hey Mike, why don't you try actually showing them or hockey for that matter any respect throughout the season and maybe they'd make time to be on your show. Drop everything everyone. Fatso wants Cappy on.
RE: RE: Did anyone catch Francesa  
Dave M : 4/28/2016 12:03 pm : link
In comment 12927266 Dave M said:
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In comment 12927170 Mike in Long Beach said:


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throw a hissy fit and attack the Islanders because Cappy wouldn't take an interview?



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You know what, here’s what’s wrong with them right now: They’re not – I’m going to be honest with you – they’re not very good at promoting themselves. I gotta be honest with you: They’re third rate at promoting themselves.

They gotta realize that this is New York and this is the big time because they’re a third-rate organization. I’m sorry, they are. They’re a third-rate organization and they don’t know what they’re doing. They’re in the playoffs in the second round now. They don’t even know how to be there.

They don’t know how to promote themselves. They couldn’t even find the time to get the coach to show up here. We were willing to take him. They couldn’t even get him to the show on time.

So I mean, they don’t know what they’re doing. They’re a little lost right now. They’re in a little deep.

Now they’re players aren’t, but the organization is. Their organization right now as far as what it’s doing, especially from a PR standpoint, is lost. I mean, third rate at best.

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Hey Mike, why don't you try actually showing them or hockey for that matter any respect throughout the season and maybe they'd make time to be on your show. Drop everything everyone. Fatso wants Cappy on.


Mike Francessa that is not MILB.
RE: ....  
pganut : 4/28/2016 12:26 pm : link
In comment 12926528 BrettNYG10 said:
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Congrats on the win guys.

Very sorry to hear about your loss, 12th Man. Hope your days get better.
Missed this earlier. Thanks, Brett. Isles are learning to become winners in front of our eyes. It's been nerve-wracking but more fun than anything.
Hahhahaa yeah, I was like wtf Dave?  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 12:54 pm : link
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RE: RE: ....  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 1:08 pm : link
In comment 12927366 pganut said:
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In comment 12926528 BrettNYG10 said:


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Congrats on the win guys.

Very sorry to hear about your loss, 12th Man. Hope your days get better.

Missed this earlier. Thanks, Brett. Isles are learning to become winners in front of our eyes. It's been nerve-wracking but more fun than anything.


You know what I learned relatively recently... In the five years prior to the Cup run, the Islanders went to the Eastern Conference Finals in 4 of those years, and lost in the 2nd round the other year.

Holy shit.. if you were a die hard fan and didn't know the glory that was coming, my God that must've been torture.
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