Come on. Which route would he have problems with? The deep in? A post?
The wonderlic means nothing. Despite that limited route tree they asked him to make route adjustments based on coverage. His ability to get off the line and the routes he ran he showed he can get wide open and it will work in the NFL.
Coleman to Giants is a perfect match. Speed to pull safeties his way and excellent weapon on the short stuff with YAC ability.
He makes Manningham and Randle look like Rhodes Scholars Â
“It’s comical, people come up to the line of scrimmage and try to jam him, they don’t even get a finger on him,” Collinsworth said of Coleman. “And, then he’s so fast, now you miss him at the line of scrimmage, and he just goes. Somebody is going to be on the other side of Odell Beckham... somebody’s going one-on-one. So, if you said, ‘Who’s the one guy they could not cover one-on-one on the back side?’ That’s Corey Coleman.”
He's a guy who would get Beckham one on one looks. He's a no risk/HR potential pick. Not just speed. Strong and tough. Outstanding with the ball in his hands. Excellent runner who can also play out of the backfield.
certainly be a weapon in our offense and he is capable of putting up huge performances in the NFL... the guy is an absolute playmaker and I think he is a SURE thing.
The thing about him is he is so explosive there aren't many corners that are going to be able to stay with him. He's going to get cushion and when he doesn't get cushion, they are going to need to dedicate safety help.
However, as I've said elsewhere, the Giants need a red zone target. Coleman is another homerun threat, but I'd rather have a big, physical receiver to be a target in the red zone, because that's where the Giants really struggled last season.
I don't understand how there's "no risk" involved on a player who ran a limited tree, was not asked to block downfield, has questionable hands and who's route running needs work.
Coleman has a lot of check marks in places you want to see them. He's explosive, he's a big play machine with a nose for the endzone, he's excellent with the football in his hands. I like the players upside a great deal. Calvin Johnson was a no-risk WR. Corey Coleman is not. Not at #10 overall.
The things he does now? It's enough to make an impact in year one in the NFL.
He's excellent on slants, comebacks and catching the deep ball. Hes also excellent at getting off the line. Adding a few other routes is easy. But just running a few routes, the speed and deep ball threat, his ability after the catch (which is exceptional). Just these things will make him a year one impact player. You can just throw him screens, slants, comebacks, and send him deep and he'll impact the game.
Thats why I see a no risk player with Coleman (especially when he's playing with Beckham)
The routes? He'll learn more as he goes and Beckham sure could help him here. The hands are fine. Maybe an occasional drop but he makes tough catches.
The things he does now? It's enough to make an impact in year one in the NFL.
He's excellent on slants, comebacks and catching the deep ball. Hes also excellent at getting off the line. Adding a few other routes is easy. But just running a few routes, the speed and deep ball threat, his ability after the catch (which is exceptional). Just these things will make him a year one impact player. You can just throw him screens, slants, comebacks, and send him deep and he'll impact the game.
Thats why I see a no risk player with Coleman (especially when he's playing with Beckham)
The routes? He'll learn more as he goes and Beckham sure could help him here. The hands are fine. Maybe an occasional drop but he makes tough catches.
I agree with you on Coleman more than I disagree. I just don't think I see the 100% can't miss player you do because I'm not totally sold he will patch the holes in his game. Even if he doesn't, he'll make plays in this league and be a factor but where he's drafted matters. To take him at 10, you've got to be as close to dead positive as possible that he's going to hit his ceiling otherwise it's not a good pick there. Later on? Different story.
“It’s comical, people come up to the line of scrimmage and try to jam him, they don’t even get a finger on him,” Collinsworth said of Coleman. “And, then he’s so fast, now you miss him at the line of scrimmage, and he just goes. Somebody is going to be on the other side of Odell Beckham... somebody’s going one-on-one. So, if you said, ‘Who’s the one guy they could not cover one-on-one on the back side?’ That’s Corey Coleman.”
He's a guy who would get Beckham one on one looks. He's a no risk/HR potential pick. Not just speed. Strong and tough. Outstanding with the ball in his hands. Excellent runner who can also play out of the backfield.
Corey Fn Coleman is not getting Odell Beckham one on one looks. Let's get real here.
Route trees are not as much of an issues in a WCO Â
I'd expect NYG to look for, when you consider the Nicks/Randle/M2 types they seem to prefer. Tall, rangy, vertical threats who can stretch and stress the defense.
are worth the #10 I did a Tradedown and selected
Doctson at #20 Because he gives us some size .
But Coleman with OBJ would be a Nightmare
for the opposition .
I'd be willing to trade up from 40 if he slips that far. My ideal Thursday night would be selecting Jack at 10 and Coleman at 30. Game changers on both sides of the ball. Probably cost a 4th and a 6th to move back into the late first round.
RE: The SI mock draft has him slipping to #30... Â
I'd be willing to trade up from 40 if he slips that far. My ideal Thursday night would be selecting Jack at 10 and Coleman at 30. Game changers on both sides of the ball. Probably cost a 4th and a 6th to move back into the late first round.
have hard time seeing him get past group of teams in 21-25 area
I've been a big fan of Collinsworth, the guy does his homework.
The wonderlic means nothing. Despite that limited route tree they asked him to make route adjustments based on coverage. His ability to get off the line and the routes he ran he showed he can get wide open and it will work in the NFL.
Coleman to Giants is a perfect match. Speed to pull safeties his way and excellent weapon on the short stuff with YAC ability.
He's a guy who would get Beckham one on one looks. He's a no risk/HR potential pick. Not just speed. Strong and tough. Outstanding with the ball in his hands. Excellent runner who can also play out of the backfield.
The thing about him is he is so explosive there aren't many corners that are going to be able to stay with him. He's going to get cushion and when he doesn't get cushion, they are going to need to dedicate safety help.
However, as I've said elsewhere, the Giants need a red zone target. Coleman is another homerun threat, but I'd rather have a big, physical receiver to be a target in the red zone, because that's where the Giants really struggled last season.
Coleman has a lot of check marks in places you want to see them. He's explosive, he's a big play machine with a nose for the endzone, he's excellent with the football in his hands. I like the players upside a great deal. Calvin Johnson was a no-risk WR. Corey Coleman is not. Not at #10 overall.
I've been a big fan of Collinsworth, the guy does his homework.
Make your pick, it depends on what is more important to you.
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I wouldn't go that far...I certainly wouldn't be disappointed if he were the pick at 10.
Phil Simms didn't seem to be as high on him as Collinsworth. Talked about limited routes, etc.
He's excellent on slants, comebacks and catching the deep ball. Hes also excellent at getting off the line. Adding a few other routes is easy. But just running a few routes, the speed and deep ball threat, his ability after the catch (which is exceptional). Just these things will make him a year one impact player. You can just throw him screens, slants, comebacks, and send him deep and he'll impact the game.
Thats why I see a no risk player with Coleman (especially when he's playing with Beckham)
The routes? He'll learn more as he goes and Beckham sure could help him here. The hands are fine. Maybe an occasional drop but he makes tough catches.
He's excellent on slants, comebacks and catching the deep ball. Hes also excellent at getting off the line. Adding a few other routes is easy. But just running a few routes, the speed and deep ball threat, his ability after the catch (which is exceptional). Just these things will make him a year one impact player. You can just throw him screens, slants, comebacks, and send him deep and he'll impact the game.
Thats why I see a no risk player with Coleman (especially when he's playing with Beckham)
The routes? He'll learn more as he goes and Beckham sure could help him here. The hands are fine. Maybe an occasional drop but he makes tough catches.
I agree with you on Coleman more than I disagree. I just don't think I see the 100% can't miss player you do because I'm not totally sold he will patch the holes in his game. Even if he doesn't, he'll make plays in this league and be a factor but where he's drafted matters. To take him at 10, you've got to be as close to dead positive as possible that he's going to hit his ceiling otherwise it's not a good pick there. Later on? Different story.
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“It’s comical, people come up to the line of scrimmage and try to jam him, they don’t even get a finger on him,” Collinsworth said of Coleman. “And, then he’s so fast, now you miss him at the line of scrimmage, and he just goes. Somebody is going to be on the other side of Odell Beckham... somebody’s going one-on-one. So, if you said, ‘Who’s the one guy they could not cover one-on-one on the back side?’ That’s Corey Coleman.”
He's a guy who would get Beckham one on one looks. He's a no risk/HR potential pick. Not just speed. Strong and tough. Outstanding with the ball in his hands. Excellent runner who can also play out of the backfield.
Corey Fn Coleman is not getting Odell Beckham one on one looks. Let's get real here.
That said, no way is he the pick at 10, but I'd be thrilled to get him at 40. I just don't see him still being there.
Coleman is more like OB.
Doctson at #20 Because he gives us some size .
But Coleman with OBJ would be a Nightmare
for the opposition .
have hard time seeing him get past group of teams in 21-25 area