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2016 NFL Draft: Pre-Draft Discussion Thread (Day 1)

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/28/2016 7:44 am
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/28/2016 5:39 pm : link
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 2m2 minutes ago

Would've been curious to see teams scrambling if Carson Wentz was there at 2 prior to Eagles trade. Saints love him, Cowboys do, too. Alas.
About to talk  
Fish : 4/28/2016 5:43 pm : link
Giants and Cowboys on nfl network
Again  
B in ALB : 4/28/2016 5:53 pm : link
Trade down and get more value from a rather mediocre draft. The Giants need talent and there is no singular talent at 10 and given their position as a team that would remotely rule out that decision.
Kim jones  
Fish : 4/28/2016 5:53 pm : link
Said what we already know, that Reese going best available and could be Floyd or cocklin
For the love  
Jon in NYC : 4/28/2016 6:03 pm : link
of God we cannot take Zeke.

How fuckin hot is Melissa Stark  
Jim Burt64 : 4/28/2016 6:04 pm : link
Holy Christmas
Bosa is a damn Ant Eater  
Jim Burt64 : 4/28/2016 6:06 pm : link
holy fuck
Conklins mom is hot - this is very material toour selection  
PatersonPlank : 4/28/2016 6:10 pm : link
Another reason to get him
RE: Conklins mom is hot - this is very material toour selection  
Jim Burt64 : 4/28/2016 6:11 pm : link
In comment 12928518 PatersonPlank said:
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Another reason to get him


Def a MILF... Agreed
I think Treadwell  
JPinstripes : 4/28/2016 6:16 pm : link
would be a great compliment to OBJ.

Conklin would be a great add to a young and up and coming O-Line.

Floyd is intriguing in that he is projected to be a very good edge rusher in the NFL.

The Giants are going to get a good player folks, EE is the dark horse.

Floyd, Conklin, Treadwell or Elliott will be a Giant tonight.
Elliot looks like he could date Odell  
SimpleMan : 4/28/2016 6:19 pm : link
after he breaks up with Drake.
good god they have made this like the academy awards  
gtt350 : 4/28/2016 6:22 pm : link
red carpet shit for football players,
RE: I think Treadwell  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/28/2016 6:22 pm : link
In comment 12928528 JPinstripes said:
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would be a great compliment to OBJ.

Conklin would be a great add to a young and up and coming O-Line.

Floyd is intriguing in that he is projected to be a very good edge rusher in the NFL.

The Giants are going to get a good player folks, EE is the dark horse.

Floyd, Conklin, Treadwell or Elliott will be a Giant tonight.


Perhaps the most sane post of the day thus far.
RE: For the love  
AcidTest : 4/28/2016 6:23 pm : link
In comment 12928503 Jon in NYC said:
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of God we cannot take Zeke.



I wondered when somebody was going to post that.
"they're kids scare em"  
gtt350 : 4/28/2016 6:25 pm : link
.
Zeke looks um...  
Patrick77 : 4/28/2016 6:34 pm : link
Jesus Christ. Taking Metro Douche to a whole other level.

It's going to tough for him when the Giants draft him and he learns BBI has definitively confirmed Beckham's straightness. He will be devastated.
Shaq's mom  
Jim Burt64 : 4/28/2016 6:39 pm : link
Looks like a crackhead.. dayum
RE: I think Treadwell  
JohnVB : 4/28/2016 6:40 pm : link
In comment 12928528 JPinstripes said:
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would be a great compliment to OBJ.

Conklin would be a great add to a young and up and coming O-Line.

Floyd is intriguing in that he is projected to be a very good edge rusher in the NFL.

The Giants are going to get a good player folks, EE is the dark horse.

Floyd, Conklin, Treadwell or Elliott will be a Giant tonight.


I agree except for Floyd. He's boom or bust in our system.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/28/2016 6:42 pm : link
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 7m7 minutes ago

Sounds like there could be a slew of potential trades tonight with teams on the clock. Could be a fun night in Chicago.
Email from Boylhart re: Floyd  
JohnVB : 4/28/2016 6:42 pm : link
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John,
Thanks for your kind words, I think you seeing what your seeing. Nothing wrong with that but I have looked at film of Floyd before they move him to the MLB position. You are correct when he played the MLB position all of what you said is correct. If you catch him playing on the line of scrimage as a OLB or OLB/DE in a 3/4 that's when you see his potential. Getting off the line of scrimage, bending and making sacks and stringing running plays out shedding and making tackles. I do agree with you, I don't think he's a fit for the Giants defense. In fact when the Giants drafted Mathias Kiwanuka I felt the same way. He was never a fit for the Giants defense and he never became the impact player I thought he would become because he played off the line.

I think Reese looks at Floyd and thinks he will be very much like Kiwanuka and I think he is right and Floyd playing the same position o(Off The line of Scrimage) will have less impact like Mathias had.

I think you are right, not in your evaluation of Floyd's play and potential but in the fact that Floyd is not a fit for your defense. He has to play on the line as a OLB/DE in a 3/4 defense and not off the line as a OLB in a 4/3 defense.



Drew Boylhart
The Huddle Report. com
Author of the Book
"The Draftnik"
RE: RE: I think Treadwell  
GMen23 : 4/28/2016 6:47 pm : link
and if we want to get greedy at pick up a 3rd for a 4th to move back
In comment 12928540 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 12928528 JPinstripes said:


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would be a great compliment to OBJ.

Conklin would be a great add to a young and up and coming O-Line.

Floyd is intriguing in that he is projected to be a very good edge rusher in the NFL.

The Giants are going to get a good player folks, EE is the dark horse.

Floyd, Conklin, Treadwell or Elliott will be a Giant tonight.



Perhaps the most sane post of the day thus far.


According to Draftek.coms 2016 Trade Chart

#10 1300 pts. Giants 4th #109 76pts
#13 1150 pts. Dolphins 3rd #73 225pts
One point difference

#15 1050 pts.
Titans 3rd #64 270 pts (1st of 3rd rd.)
1300 from Giants & 1320 from Titans. Pretty close.
If we have to give them our 6th, thats 17.6 points.

The Treadwell guys will like this. Im one of them, or an offensive one for #1, at least.
I want Jack.  
BlueHurricane : 4/28/2016 7:00 pm : link
Hope our Dr did the work and cleared him. He's the best talent in the draft.
What  
Mr. Nickels : 4/28/2016 7:01 pm : link
the fck is this red carpet bullshit?
Agreed - the Red Carpet stuff is way too much  
PatersonPlank : 4/28/2016 7:03 pm : link
I was tired of it 1 hour ago.
RE: The OT 6-7-8 scenario  
Cruzin : 4/28/2016 7:03 pm : link
In comment 12927979 shyster said:
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3. Buckner
4. Ramsey
5. Bosa
6. Tunsil
7. Stanley
8. Conklin (Titans' trade-up)
9. Hargreaves
10. Who else?


Shyster, that makes Floyd the easy pick. Do you think they'd go Elliot instead? Or maybe Jack, like Limerickguy says?
RE: What  
rocco8112 : 4/28/2016 7:08 pm : link
In comment 12928617 Mr. Nickels said:
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the fck is this red carpet bullshit?


Nauseating the NFL sucks, love football but this league sucks.

We all keep gobbling it up though. I wanted Elliot, but after that outfit what the heck. This is supposed tbe a football.
Praying  
Craigg619 : 4/28/2016 7:09 pm : link
For Miles Jack. Risk aside, the guy is the biggest beast in this draft. Man they really really need to draft him.
I want Jack or Conklin  
PatersonPlank : 4/28/2016 7:12 pm : link
,
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/28/2016 7:12 pm : link
Has football turned gay? (not that there is anything wrong with that)
some reason I think if Tunsil falls within reasonable reach  
micky : 4/28/2016 7:13 pm : link
?
The more that I have thought about it  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 4/28/2016 7:15 pm : link
I really want Treadwell and Simmons in this draft. Not sure how we get there, but I think those are guys that would really help this team.
Can Mike Irvin speak English please  
Jim Burt64 : 4/28/2016 7:18 pm : link
God damn... BTW, these boys have BEEN getting paid, with the bling & outfits... I know - No shit Sherlock..
RE: RE: The OT 6-7-8 scenario  
shyster : 4/28/2016 7:18 pm : link
In comment 12928622 Cruzin said:
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Shyster, that makes Floyd the easy pick. Do you think they'd go Elliot instead? Or maybe Jack, like Limerickguy says?


Yes, that's the significance of the "who else?", as in: no need to even print the name. Wouldn't be my pick, even in that scenario, but I have to presume the Giants would get his name up there promptly.
Lee is a GIANTS fan  
Jim Burt64 : 4/28/2016 7:21 pm : link
love it!
Daron Lee just said  
mofti : 4/28/2016 7:21 pm : link
The Giants are his favorite team!
I wonder how a kid born in Tennessee  
sjnyfan : 4/28/2016 7:22 pm : link
and grew up in Ohio became a Giants fan
Darron Lee  
Craigg619 : 4/28/2016 7:23 pm : link
Just said his favorite team is Giants. Now I'll like him forever haha.
RE: Praying  
shabu : 4/28/2016 7:23 pm : link
In comment 12928627 Craigg619 said:
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For Miles Jack. Risk aside, the guy is the biggest beast in this draft. Man they really really need to draft him.



you pray for pain... you will continue crying as the dood misses more time than beason..
Goffs mom  
Jim Burt64 : 4/28/2016 7:24 pm : link
Haaawtie!
MSG radio  
Torn Tendon : 4/28/2016 7:25 pm : link
saying Floyd is down to 220lbs. He becoming a safety?
RE: MSG radio  
Jon in NYC : 4/28/2016 7:26 pm : link
In comment 12928672 Torn Tendon said:
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saying Floyd is down to 220lbs. He becoming a safety?


Jesus...that can't be true, can it? He lost 24 lbs in 2 months?
How would MSG have that info and not the national media  
robbieballs2003 : 4/28/2016 7:28 pm : link
?
RE: How would MSG have that info and not the national media  
huygens20 : 4/28/2016 7:29 pm : link
In comment 12928681 robbieballs2003 said:
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?


We're targeting him.
RE: I wonder how a kid born in Tennessee  
Klaatu : 4/28/2016 7:30 pm : link
In comment 12928658 sjnyfan said:
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and grew up in Ohio became a Giants fan


I have a nephew who was born in Massachusetts, grew up in Michigan and New Jersey, and is a Seattle Seahawks fan.

Why? My brother-in-law is a Notre Dame alum, so, as a kid my nephew would watch the ND games with him. ND's QB at the time was Rick Mirer, and he became my nephew's favorite player. When Mirer got drafted by Seattle, my nephew "followed" him there. Even though Mirer was a disappointment, my nephew's allegiance to the Seahawks never wavered. Happy to say he was at MetLife when they won their first Super Bowl.
RE: How would MSG have that info and not the national media  
Torn Tendon : 4/28/2016 7:31 pm : link
In comment 12928681 robbieballs2003 said:
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?


It was Dan Graziano that said it.
RE: MSG radio  
Jim Burt64 : 4/28/2016 7:31 pm : link
In comment 12928672 Torn Tendon said:
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saying Floyd is down to 220lbs. He becoming a safety?


Latest pro-day pics of Floyd released

Floyd was 235 on Saturday  
shyster : 4/28/2016 7:31 pm : link
at his Falcons' workout, per the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

Hasn't lost 15 pounds in 5 days.
RE: RE: MSG radio  
huygens20 : 4/28/2016 7:32 pm : link
In comment 12928674 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 12928672 Torn Tendon said:


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saying Floyd is down to 220lbs. He becoming a safety?



Jesus...that can't be true, can it? He lost 24 lbs in 2 months?


He ate a shitload of food on his proday so he can weigh higher

He's 24 and can't fill out his 66 frame
RE: RE: Praying  
Craigg619 : 4/28/2016 8:11 pm : link
In comment 12928661 shabu said:
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In comment 12928627 Craigg619 said:


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For Miles Jack. Risk aside, the guy is the biggest beast in this draft. Man they really really need to draft him.




you pray for pain... you will continue crying as the dood misses more time than beason..



That's fine man. We both have our opinion. I would personally take t chance but that's me.
Can't believe GB  
Rflairr : 4/28/2016 11:16 pm : link
wouldn't take Ashawn
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