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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7:44 am
Here we go...
Myles Jack  
est1986 : 7:46 am : link
And Mackenzie Alexander in rounds one and 2 would be awesome.
I am psyched  
Rjanyg : 7:48 am : link
I think we get one of Floyd, Conklin, Treadwell and because I don't always believe everything I read, Jack.

All these players will be solid pros IMO and will look very nice in NYG Blue.
RE: I am psyched  
est1986 : 7:50 am : link
In comment 12926425 Rjanyg said:
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I think we get one of Floyd, Conklin, Treadwell and because I don't always believe everything I read, Jack.

All these players will be solid pros IMO and will look very nice in NYG Blue.


We could use all three so anyone is a welcomed addition. Treadwell probably has the most day one impact.
Raanan and Kratch...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7:54 am : link
make their final 1st round picks for Giants...
Welcome to NFL Draft 2016: The Giants will pick ... - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8:01 am : link
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Even though Jack says that he never made an official visit to East Rutherford, the prospect of lining up on defense in Giants blue on Sunday afternoons at MetLife Stadium is an exciting one.

"That would be really cool," Jack told NJ Advance Media Wednesday at the NFL Play 60 event. "I went to New York for the first time, and I just fell in love with just how fast New York was. Just the fact that people honk their horns at you as soon as the light turns green. I love their 'lets go, I have places to be,' attitude and the fact that there's always people moving to your left and your right.

"I love that intensity. I feel like that city, they just want to see authenticity. If they saw the way I would play for that organization, I feel like not only could I win my teammates and my coaches, but I feel like I could win that city over. I would love to go to New York. That would be really cool."

Myles Jack 'would love' to play for Giants, says knee fully healed - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8:03 am : link
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The 6-foot-2, 210 pound target visited the Giants headquarters and gave a glimpse into how much he enjoyed his time with first-year head coach Ben McAdoo and the coaching staff.

"It went well," Treadwell said. "I met with the coach. I met with the receivers coach. We talked a lot of football. They put me on the board, I did my thing. It was fun. We watched film. He showed me some do's and don'ts, but it was really good.

"I think we would do well with myself, Eli and Odell Beckham Jr. We'd have two different styles of receiver. It would create a diverse team. We have a big, physical receiver who's flash quick who will make you miss and take it to the house.

"I'm a different breed. Hop up, go for the ball, fight for the ball every play and be a competitor all over the field. It would be great. Eli Manning at quarterback is one of the best quarterbacks in the league right now. That's what it's all about, having a great quarterback and getting in a system that fits you. Whatever happens, you just have to work with it."

Laquon Treadwell calls possibility of playing in New York 'huge' - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8:09 am : link
Paul Schwartz...


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Leonard Floyd, LB, Georgia

The Giants view him as a three-down linebacker who can thrive in Steve Spagnuolos defensive system, especially with the upgraded defensive line cleaning up the congestion, allowing Floyd to use his speed to run to the ball. Hes also one of the best pass rushers in the draft, a lithe 6-foot-6 athlete. He will be 24 at the start of the season, but that does not worry the Giants.

Giants first-round prediction: Leonard Floyd, LB, Georgia - ( New Window )
I wouldn't mind Treadwell  
ZogZerg : 8:19 am : link
He has a passion for football. I guess it depends on whether Ben M. thinks he would be a great fit for the O.
I was fine with Jack until last night  
That was when articles appeared that talked about micro-fracture procedures in relation to him and the not so distant future.

Micro-fracture has a very high failure rate. Pass
I want  
Jack, or best available OT. Pass on Floyd.
I like Treadwell but not at 10. Too high. I don't like Floyd at 10  
Victor in CT : 8:29 am : link
hate it at 8.
hoping Floyd and Stanley are gone  
giants#1 : 8:31 am : link
and someone (Titans?) gives us 2nd to move up and grab Conklin. Then grab Hargreaves/Treadwell at 15.
Conklin  
AcidTest : 8:32 am : link
is the most likely pick. The Giants want Floyd, but hell be gone. I can only hope that Reese passes on Jack, but Im not sure he wont. I also have to hope that he doesnt trade up for anyone, including Floyd or Jack. We only have six picks, and a million holes. He should be moving back.

The problem of course is that Reese is psychologically opposed to trading down, as evidenced by the fact that he has never done so, in any round. Conklin is a RT in the NFL. The #20 pick and an extra second rounder is more valuable.

Reese could then take Kyler Fackrell with one of the second round picks. Fackrell has the same lanky, lean, body as Floyd. I dont want Fackrell. Hes 25, his frame is probably maxed out, and he tore an ACL in September 2014. The strength of this draft is in the second through fourth rounds.
Let's be frank - your minimum target career  
for the 10th pick in the draft is 5 years of starter equivalent. If you cannot project that reasonably from a health standpoint, you pass.
I understand that Floyd would be an unconventional pick  
and he has his potential flaws. However, the game is changing and I think he could be a really special player. He allows coaches to be really creative in what they do with him. If the game went back to a run heavy game, he would not be your ideal choice, but given the continuing evolution to a pass heavy (only) league, he has a skill set that can create incredible match up problems for the other side. He also has the capacity to matchup on TEs which has been a 10 year problem for the Giants.

I think he is an interesting choice.

Ramsey, Jack or Bosa in that order.  
If Floyd....If they are fine with it so am I....but he has not produced much
Can anyone make an educated  
mrvax : 8:53 am : link
guess at what time our Giants will be on the clock? 9:30? 10:00?
And if Myers mock comes true and the Giants take Floyd  
Victor in CT : 8:58 am : link
and leave Lawson to the Bears I would be pissed too
I could definitely see Treadwell at 10 just because Reese likes his  
GiantBlue : 9:04 am : link
toys.....but having said that....if Zeke is there at 10...that would be a better toy IMHO.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9:04 am : link
Jason Cole ‏@JasonColeBR 8m8 minutes ago

Have had 3 GMs say that Georgia LB/DE Leonard Floyd will end up in the top 10 tonight. Project him as best potential right end/pass rusher
Don't like either of the LB at 10  
BillT : 9:04 am : link
If you're drafting outside of your priority positions (OLT DB WR DL) this high in the round you only do so if you're getting a "clean" player. Neither Floyd or Jack seem to be that. At least from what we know Floyd seems undersized for his height with some questions about his game and Jack has health issues. Would much prefer Hargraeves at 10. He's a very good player with all the intangibles at a priority position. You need at least 3 good CBs. This would fit the bill short and long term. Hope he is still there. I think they'll take him if he is.
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In comment 12926604 Eric from BBI said:
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Jason Cole ‏@JasonColeBR 8m8 minutes ago

Have had 3 GMs say that Georgia LB/DE Leonard Floyd will end up in the top 10 tonight. Project him as best potential right end/pass rusher


How is he still projected as a DE? I don't get it at all.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9:24 am : link
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- I still think the most likely pick is Georgia linebacker Leonard Floyd. The Giants haven't taken a linebacker in the first round since Carl Banks in 1984, but all the things I wrote seven weeks ago about why Floyd could buck that trend hold up. He's a player the Giants' scouts and front office have loved for months, and there are people high up in the brain trust who believe he will and should be the pick.

- That said, Floyd is a hot name recently, and I've heard him connected with Tampa Bay at No. 9, Cleveland at No. 8, San Francisco at No. 7 and even Jacksonville at No. 5. So there's a chance the Giants might not be able to get him at No. 10.

- If Floyd is gone -- and possibly even if he's not -- the Giants could take an offensive player. Some in the brain trust have expressed the opinion that, after spending more than $100 million in guaranteed money on defensive free agents, it would be unwise for the Giants to also spend their top-10 pick on that side of the ball. Those people would prefer to take an offensive lineman in the top 10 for the second year in a row. The Giants' top-rated offensive lineman is Mississippi's Laremy Tunsil, but the odds are not good that he'll last until No. 10. I have been told their No. 2 offensive lineman is Michigan State's Jack Conklin, who could potentially start as a rookie at right tackle and allow the coaching staff to keep Flowers on the left side, where they believe he has elite upside.

- Multiple people have told me the Giants will not select UCLA linebacker Myles Jack at No. 10. Concerns about the condition of Jack's knee, combined with the Giants' generally lukewarm feelings about first-round linebackers (remember, they view Floyd as a pass-rusher who happens to play linebacker), have slid him far enough down their board that they think No. 10 is too high. The most-injured team in the league the past three years, the Giants aren't up for a first-round injury risk.

- I also don't expect them to take Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott, mainly because they think No. 10 is too high to take a running back when that's one of the few positions on their roster that has any depth and they have so many needs elsewhere. I can't get Elliott ruled out completely by people in the know, but I think a lot of weird things would have to happen in the top nine for him to be the pick at 10.

- They liked Florida cornerback Vernon Hargreaves at one point in this process, and could still take him. But I have not heard a lot of serious buzz about him and the Giants in the past week.

- If the Giants take an offensive player in the first round, a second-round name to keep an eye on could be Eastern Kentucky's Noah Spence -- the former five-star pass-rusher who got kicked out of Ohio State for multiple failed drug tests. Spence could get taken in the first round, but if he doesn't, he could be there for the Giants at No. 40 overall, and he brings the kind of high-end upside they crave in their young pass-rushers.

- I don't see them taking a receiver in the first round unless they trade down, which would be unprecedented in the Jerry Reese era. If you're looking for second- or third-round names to watch at wide receiver, think about Ohio State's Braxton Miller or Oklahoma's Sterling Shepard.

Leonard Floyd? Jack Conklin? The latest on the Giants' first-round draft plans - ( New Window )
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Big Blue '56 : 9:27 am : link
In comment 12926657 Eric from BBI said:
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- I still think the most likely pick is Georgia linebacker Leonard Floyd. The Giants haven't taken a linebacker in the first round since Carl Banks in 1984, but all the things I wrote seven weeks ago about why Floyd could buck that trend hold up. He's a player the Giants' scouts and front office have loved for months, and there are people high up in the brain trust who believe he will and should be the pick.

- That said, Floyd is a hot name recently, and I've heard him connected with Tampa Bay at No. 9, Cleveland at No. 8, San Francisco at No. 7 and even Jacksonville at No. 5. So there's a chance the Giants might not be able to get him at No. 10.

- If Floyd is gone -- and possibly even if he's not -- the Giants could take an offensive player. Some in the brain trust have expressed the opinion that, after spending more than $100 million in guaranteed money on defensive free agents, it would be unwise for the Giants to also spend their top-10 pick on that side of the ball. Those people would prefer to take an offensive lineman in the top 10 for the second year in a row. The Giants' top-rated offensive lineman is Mississippi's Laremy Tunsil, but the odds are not good that he'll last until No. 10. I have been told their No. 2 offensive lineman is Michigan State's Jack Conklin, who could potentially start as a rookie at right tackle and allow the coaching staff to keep Flowers on the left side, where they believe he has elite upside.

- Multiple people have told me the Giants will not select UCLA linebacker Myles Jack at No. 10. Concerns about the condition of Jack's knee, combined with the Giants' generally lukewarm feelings about first-round linebackers (remember, they view Floyd as a pass-rusher who happens to play linebacker), have slid him far enough down their board that they think No. 10 is too high. The most-injured team in the league the past three years, the Giants aren't up for a first-round injury risk.

- I also don't expect them to take Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott, mainly because they think No. 10 is too high to take a running back when that's one of the few positions on their roster that has any depth and they have so many needs elsewhere. I can't get Elliott ruled out completely by people in the know, but I think a lot of weird things would have to happen in the top nine for him to be the pick at 10.

- They liked Florida cornerback Vernon Hargreaves at one point in this process, and could still take him. But I have not heard a lot of serious buzz about him and the Giants in the past week.

- If the Giants take an offensive player in the first round, a second-round name to keep an eye on could be Eastern Kentucky's Noah Spence -- the former five-star pass-rusher who got kicked out of Ohio State for multiple failed drug tests. Spence could get taken in the first round, but if he doesn't, he could be there for the Giants at No. 40 overall, and he brings the kind of high-end upside they crave in their young pass-rushers.

- I don't see them taking a receiver in the first round unless they trade down, which would be unprecedented in the Jerry Reese era. If you're looking for second- or third-round names to watch at wide receiver, think about Ohio State's Braxton Miller or Oklahoma's Sterling Shepard.

Leonard Floyd? Jack Conklin? The latest on the Giants' first-round draft plans - ( New Window )


The irony in all these Floyd "meltdowns" the last few weeks or so? He may not even be there for us given how some teams above us ALLEGEDLY value him as a pick..
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arcarsenal : 9:31 am : link
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Jason Cole ‏@JasonColeBR 8m8 minutes ago

Have had 3 GMs say that Georgia LB/DE Leonard Floyd will end up in the top 10 tonight. Project him as best potential right end/pass rusher



How is he still projected as a DE? I don't get it at all.


I could see him lining up there as a LEO in certain alignments. You don't need to have great size to play there.. I know Bradley used to do it with Clemons in Seattle. He'll have space and line up wide as an edge rusher. This is a player I think you can do a lot of different things with.
After reading early comments,  
oldog : 9:41 am : link
glad I'm not Reese. BBI seems split and not only do there appear to be many contingencies in front of the Giants, but the injury issues and the differences in opinion concerning prospective candidates are legion as well. The team needs are still a bit too many for comfort, and the injury issues surrounding the players probably of interest to the Giants at 10 also raise serious concerns.
So it's floyd  
micky : 9:45 am : link
Waiting til Rd 2 and on to see who picks are
It's  
Jon in NYC : 9:51 am : link
going to be hilarious to see Floyd go no. 9, we pass on Jack and end up with Conklin.
RE: It's  
jeff57 : 9:54 am : link
In comment 12926765 Jon in NYC said:
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going to be hilarious to see Floyd go no. 9, we pass on Jack and end up with Conklin.

There's probably a good chance of that happening.
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Jon in NYC : 9:54 am : link
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going to be hilarious to see Floyd go no. 9, we pass on Jack and end up with Conklin.


There's probably a good chance of that happening.


Oh I know.
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jeff57 : 9:56 am : link
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going to be hilarious to see Floyd go no. 9, we pass on Jack and end up with Conklin.


There's probably a good chance of that happening.



Oh I know.

Which creates the possibility of Reese giving up a 4 to move up to 8 to take Floyd.
I don't think Floyd is going to be there at #10  
I either don't believe these rumors the Giants might swap with the Browns or think it's a horrible idea. If Elliott is there and Floyd isn't, I'd choose Elliott over Conklin. I think Jack is going to slip down below 10.
That  
Jon in NYC : 10:01 am : link
would surprise me. If they were so dead set on Floyd, we wouldn't have heard about Conklin among others this late in the process. I'm guessing Floyd is the top guy on a tier, not the only guy on that tier, if that makes sense.
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Big Blue '56 : 10:02 am : link
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going to be hilarious to see Floyd go no. 9, we pass on Jack and end up with Conklin.


There's probably a good chance of that happening.



Oh I know.


Which creates the possibility of Reese giving up a 4 to move up to 8 to take Floyd.


If that happens, I'll agoid this site until tomorrow..:)
RE: That  
giants#1 : 10:02 am : link
In comment 12926798 Jon in NYC said:
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would surprise me. If they were so dead set on Floyd, we wouldn't have heard about Conklin among others this late in the process. I'm guessing Floyd is the top guy on a tier, not the only guy on that tier, if that makes sense.


That's how I interpret hitdog's comments from yesterday.
RE: Conklin  
Chef : 10:11 am : link
In comment 12926509 AcidTest said:
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is the most likely pick. The Giants want Floyd, but hell be gone. I can only hope that Reese passes on Jack, but Im not sure he wont. I also have to hope that he doesnt trade up for anyone, including Floyd or Jack. We only have six picks, and a million holes. He should be moving back.

The problem of course is that Reese is psychologically opposed to trading down, as evidenced by the fact that he has never done so, in any round. Conklin is a RT in the NFL. The #20 pick and an extra second rounder is more valuable.

Reese could then take Kyler Fackrell with one of the second round picks. Fackrell has the same lanky, lean, body as Floyd. I dont want Fackrell. Hes 25, his frame is probably maxed out, and he tore an ACL in September 2014. The strength of this draft is in the second through fourth rounds.


This, with Jack falling Floyd is rising he wont be there...leaving us with Conklin.. which is just fine...
SPOOONNNN!!!!!  
JohnVB : 10:15 am : link
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Floyd is a scary pick  
wrecking crew : 10:15 am : link
A #10 pick who had shoulder surgery and is more of a 3/4 type linebacker. He will be 24 in sept. High risk player.
RE: It's  
micky : 10:41 am : link
In comment 12926765 Jon in NYC said:
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going to be hilarious to see Floyd go no. 9, we pass on Jack and end up with Conklin.


Nothing bad about Conklin. Actually a good pick imho
If Dloyd is gone I think the Giants would take  
BillT : 10:55 am : link
Hargraeves over Conklin. Don't see a RT over a CB given they are equally ranked. The higher priority position wins there.
I have a feeling...  
Strip-Sack : 11:05 am : link
that they very well could trade up for Floyd. If they really love the kid and he's supposedly the hot prospect right now it could happen. They're looking for impact and I think he provides that in their mind. They could stand pat and take Conklin but it's starting to feel like a trade up scenario to me.
I still say  
geemanfan : 11:06 am : link
Pass on the O line with pick 10 unless it's Tunsil. Can't draft a RT that high .
I want to either roll the dice on Jack, who is a top stud, or  
PatersonPlank : 11:13 am : link
take Conklin. Please someone else take Floyd. I see a situational, 3rd down, pass rushing guy. A good addition but certainly not a top pick. I hope I am wrong since it seems thats the way its going.
Latest  
Jon in NYC : 11:19 am : link
whispers are that the Chargers are set on Buckner.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11:19 am : link

Joel Klatt Verified account
‏@joelklatt

2- Myles Jack is widely considered the best player with the highest ceiling...teams nervous about knee...Jags could move back & get him
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11:20 am : link
Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 8m8 minutes ago

Mike Garafolo Retweeted Joel Klatt

JAX trade-back scenario for Jack does have legs. Listen to Klatt, people.
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mphbullet36 : 11:24 am : link
In comment 12927080 Eric from BBI said:
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Joel Klatt Verified account
‏@joelklatt

2- Myles Jack is widely considered the best player with the highest ceiling...teams nervous about knee...Jags could move back & get him


maybe this is why the giants are throwing smokescreens. Make the jags trade back behind Giants (giants making it seem they wont pick him). But pick him at 10 anyways???
. . . .  
jeff57 : 11:31 am : link
La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora

Interesting dynamic at bottom of top 10, with the Browns and Bucs very open to drop. Teams could move up for Elliott/Rankins/Floyd there

Not worried  
Bluesbreaker : 11:31 am : link
Reece has to get this #10 Pick Right
if there are any doubt's about the remaining
quality at 10 Then I hope we have a Tradedown
in place and we can get 4-5 picks in the top
120 . Fill the Needs as best as possible .
I like Hargreaves and I'm warming to Treadwell .
Have no problem filling the RT spot either .
Give me Hargreaves, Conklin or Shaq Lawson at 10  
GiantJake : 11:54 am : link
Hargreaves steps in immediately as the 3rd corner and is great insurance should DRC of Jenkins miss some time. Conklin becomes the RT and would immediately upgrade the run game and give the Giants young bookends to protect Eli. Shaq Lawson has legit Giants DE size and skills. The Giants have lacked pass rushing depth and Lawson and Odighizuwa would give the Giants options...especially with JPP playing on a one year deal.
It's a 7 player draft  
NNJ Tom : 11:57 am : link
If you add in the 2 QBs that's 9, Giants pick 10th.

If some team screws up, Giants get a stud. If not, they pick from a long list of flawed players, hopefully BPA.

We need another team desperate for a QB to trade up.



Team needs.  
vthaven : 12:07 pm : link
I think they need a WR badly. I hope that they get Sterling Shepherd(sp)by tomorrow.
RE: SPOOONNNN!!!!!  
GiantsLaw : 12:20 pm : link
In comment 12926850 JohnVB said:
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I was a SPOON-er! good times.
Myers NYDN  
Defenderdawg : 12:26 pm : link
Gary Myers (@garymyersNYDN)
4/28/16, 12:17 PM
Now I'm hearing NYG will for sure go for best OT on board at No. 10 and that looks like Jack Conklin. Want OT over LB Leonard Floyd
RE: Myers NYDN  
Jon in NYC : 12:27 pm : link
In comment 12927363 Defenderdawg said:
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Gary Myers (@garymyersNYDN)
4/28/16, 12:17 PM
Now I'm hearing NYG will for sure go for best OT on board at No. 10 and that looks like Jack Conklin. Want OT over LB Leonard Floyd


FFS.
one of  
BIGbluegermany : 12:33 pm : link
the three top OT,please!let's finnish the rebuild of the o-line
I'd still go with Jack  
Sec 103 : 12:33 pm : link
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The "now I am hearing"  
Sy'56 : 12:37 pm : link
line is comical. Just stop.
Why would anyone listen to gary myers for giants news?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12:39 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 12:40 pm : link
LOLGaryMyers....
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JohnVB : 12:44 pm : link
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I was a SPOON-er! good times.


Lol.

What about Kenny Britt vs Hakeem Nicks?
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GiantsLaw : 1:05 pm : link
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What about Kenny Britt vs Hakeem Nicks?

I wanted Maualuga (yeah, I ask for LB every year!)
WalterFootball  
sphinx : 1:06 pm : link
Charlie Campbell 1 minute ago
Per sources, #Redkins targeting an Alabama player in the first round. #Jaguars target Bosa. Jack plan B.

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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1:19 pm : link
Peter Schrager ‏@PSchrags 24m24 minutes ago

3. Leonard Floyd could be a real possibility to Jacksonville at 5. If not, don't expect him to slip past 11. @NFLonFOX
RE: WalterFootball  
kash94 : 1:19 pm : link
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Charlie Campbell 1 minute ago
Per sources, #Redkins targeting an Alabama player in the first round. #Jaguars target Bosa. Jack plan B.


1-LA: Goff
2-PHI: Wentz
3-SD: Ramsey
4-DAL: Elliott
5-JAC: Bosa
6-BAL: Brukner
7-SF: Tunsil
8-CLE: Stanley
9-TB: Floyd
10-NYG: Conklin w/ Hargraeves and Jack still on the board?
Trade down  
B in ALB : 1:27 pm : link
One or two of their targets will still be there at 15-20. Grab another pick. Outside of maybe three or four guys this draft is somewhat devoid of no-brainer picks.
At this point, there is too much conflicting crap  
DonnieD89 : 1:27 pm : link
between selecting Floyd and Conklin. I wonder if these are smokescreens for another targeted player.
SY 56  
Please give us a Giants mock
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1:38 pm : link
Peter Schrager ‏@PSchrags 6m6 minutes ago

Do Jags take Leonard Floyd at 5? I know one team in top 10 who has him as top rated pass rusher in Draft. 6 hours to go! @NFLonFOX
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1:52 pm : link
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 18m18 minutes ago

Sources: #Bama LB Reggie Ragland was flagged for an enlarged aorta, which requires yearly monitoring. Some teams have pushed him down a bit
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1:55 pm : link
Cory Curtis ‏@CoryCurtis2 4m4 minutes ago

If the Titans want Jack Conklin it sounds like they have to beat the Giants to it. Trading into back half of top 10 is a REAL possibility
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BigBlue1092 : 1:58 pm : link
1-Goff
2-Wentz
3-Stanley
4-Ramsey
5-Floyd
6-Buckner
7-Tunsil
8-Conklin
9-Hargreaves
10-Elliot? Jack? Treadwell?
If Bosa drops to 10,  
Simms11 : 2:00 pm : link
which is now a possibility, do the Giants grab him or do they feel he's overrated?
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which is now a possibility, do the Giants grab him or do they feel he's overrated?

read somewhere Giants have no interest in Bosa, not close to their type of player with what they seek at DE athletic ability/bend wise and obviously his offield flags are a big no no for Giants FO
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Carson53 : 2:09 pm : link
In comment 12926657 Eric from BBI said:
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- I still think the most likely pick is Georgia linebacker Leonard Floyd. The Giants haven't taken a linebacker in the first round since Carl Banks in 1984, but all the things I wrote seven weeks ago about why Floyd could buck that trend hold up. He's a player the Giants' scouts and front office have loved for months, and there are people high up in the brain trust who believe he will and should be the pick.

- That said, Floyd is a hot name recently, and I've heard him connected with Tampa Bay at No. 9, Cleveland at No. 8, San Francisco at No. 7 and even Jacksonville at No. 5. So there's a chance the Giants might not be able to get him at No. 10.

- If Floyd is gone -- and possibly even if he's not -- the Giants could take an offensive player. Some in the brain trust have expressed the opinion that, after spending more than $100 million in guaranteed money on defensive free agents, it would be unwise for the Giants to also spend their top-10 pick on that side of the ball. Those people would prefer to take an offensive lineman in the top 10 for the second year in a row. The Giants' top-rated offensive lineman is Mississippi's Laremy Tunsil, but the odds are not good that he'll last until No. 10. I have been told their No. 2 offensive lineman is Michigan State's Jack Conklin, who could potentially start as a rookie at right tackle and allow the coaching staff to keep Flowers on the left side, where they believe he has elite upside.

- Multiple people have told me the Giants will not select UCLA linebacker Myles Jack at No. 10. Concerns about the condition of Jack's knee, combined with the Giants' generally lukewarm feelings about first-round linebackers (remember, they view Floyd as a pass-rusher who happens to play linebacker), have slid him far enough down their board that they think No. 10 is too high. The most-injured team in the league the past three years, the Giants aren't up for a first-round injury risk.

- I also don't expect them to take Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott, mainly because they think No. 10 is too high to take a running back when that's one of the few positions on their roster that has any depth and they have so many needs elsewhere. I can't get Elliott ruled out completely by people in the know, but I think a lot of weird things would have to happen in the top nine for him to be the pick at 10.

- They liked Florida cornerback Vernon Hargreaves at one point in this process, and could still take him. But I have not heard a lot of serious buzz about him and the Giants in the past week.

- If the Giants take an offensive player in the first round, a second-round name to keep an eye on could be Eastern Kentucky's Noah Spence -- the former five-star pass-rusher who got kicked out of Ohio State for multiple failed drug tests. Spence could get taken in the first round, but if he doesn't, he could be there for the Giants at No. 40 overall, and he brings the kind of high-end upside they crave in their young pass-rushers.

- I don't see them taking a receiver in the first round unless they trade down, which would be unprecedented in the Jerry Reese era. If you're looking for second- or third-round names to watch at wide receiver, think about Ohio State's Braxton Miller or Oklahoma's Sterling Shepard.

Leonard Floyd? Jack Conklin? The latest on the Giants' first-round draft plans - ( New Window )



I would be surprised if Floyd goes before #10, but you never really know. Outside of the first 2 picks, not
quite sure in this draft. I probably agree on Jack, at least
as far as the Giants are concerned with his medicals.
It wouldn't bother me at least if they take a Conklin.
I don't know what the love affair is with a project like
Braxton Miller. If they are going to draft a receiver
by Round 3, draft a frigging receiver. I know the kid is
a good athlete. JR has drafted enough projects in the 3rd,
simply as a team, NOT in a position to do that NOW!
Curious...  
any reason why Conklin was just a walk on at Mich St.? Did he not play football or not possess the traits of 4* or 5* recruits?
Not  
Jon in NYC : 2:11 pm : link
that it matters, but I'm officially in the Conklin over Floyd camp. I like Floyd, and he brings some skills that the Giants just don't have, but there are definitely some red flags.

I'm also a believer that you need to be able to run the ball in order to have success, and Conklin would be a big help in the run game for 10+ years.
Jacksonville is the team  
BSIMatt : 2:14 pm : link
that scheduled a last minute meeting with Floyd on Tuesday, had their defensive coordinator meet with him.
RE: Jacksonville is the team  
Jon in NYC : 2:15 pm : link
In comment 12927703 BSIMatt said:
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that scheduled a last minute meeting with Floyd on Tuesday, had their defensive coordinator meet with him.


Big news if true.

Source?
Well found the background info on Conklin...  
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Allen Trieu: This one is a little bit of a different story from the rest. Jack wasn't a five-star recruit. Heck, he wasn't even a two-star recruit.
His father, Darren Conklin, was also his high school coach, and Coach Conklin contacted me in April of 2011 to get me some information on Jack. He said at the time, that despite no offers, and despite maybe some bias as being his father, he felt his son could play for and contribute at a major college.
He had already started two years on varsity and was 6-foot-5, 280 pounds. He ran a 5.14 forty (he ran 5.00 at the NFL Combine this year) and carried a 3.5 GPA in the classroom. Everything seemed to check off.
The film, however, was hard to evaluate. It was shot from far away, was a little grainy and it was hard to tell just how good the prospect was. His dad explained that some of their opponents didn't offer great spots to shoot from facilities-wise.
The family visited Colorado and Northwestern, but with no offers. Ball State, Eastern Michigan and others came to the school, but no offers. I saw him at Michigan's camp. He performed well. No offer. Not even from the MAC programs who were there. He skipped the high-exposure camp, Sound Mind Sound Body, to go to Wisconsin, but no offer came from the Badgers.
Early in his senior season, his dad sent me an updated three-game highlight. Not only was the film quality better, but Jack looked better. He was now 6-foot-6 and crushing opponents. Still, no offers came.
In February, Coach Conklin informed me that Jack would be going to Fork Union Military Academy despite preferred walk-on offers from Western Michigan, Michigan and Illinois. Part of that was because Jack was a young senior and wouldn't turn 18 until August. He would have an opportunity to be recruited again by D-1 schools at FUMA and earn a scholarship.
In April, nearly a year after he had first made contact, Coach Conklin told us that Michigan State had offered Jack and he committed to the Spartans, no longer attending Fork Union. They were still figuring out when his scholarship would start, but it was essentially a greyshirt offer.
After seeing his full senior tape, the Spartans knew he was a kid they wanted. It was obvious then that they had a gem, but it still was not obvious we were looking at a future NFL 1st Round draft choice.
Every year it feels the same  
SwirlingEddie : 2:34 pm : link
The break in real talent is expected to happen just before our pick and we will be left to settle for a decent player with obvious warts to his game.

Of course every team, unless they have the first overall pick, probably feels the same way! And our overanalysis and tireless debate of draft prospects makes their flaws seem all the larger. By this point we almost forget how good these players are. We'll get a good one.

Enjoy tonight guys!
Trade  
HoustonGiant : 2:41 pm : link
Down
If i'm the giants  
RAIN : 2:42 pm : link
I don't trade up. This is all smoke. Jax wants Jack, wants to trade down to get him.

Browns want more picks and are raffling off the pick at #8. Elliot is the play there.

If I'm the Giants, i'm working with Titans to try and trade back. Three players in the top 45 is something that should be a goal.

We could get a Corner (apple or hargreaves) or WR in rd 1, then a Guard (Whitehair or Garnett) with the first of our 2's, Then a slot CB or WR in the second of our 2's.

Or, If we are sitting at #15, we could trade down again to get a third second rounder + and really infuse the roster with some talent on both sides of the ball.



...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2:48 pm : link
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 2m2 minutes ago

The #Cowboys are working scenarios, but they sound like they are debating: #OSU RB Zeke Elliott vs. #FSU CB Jalen Ramsey.
Did Francesa just say his "sources" said  
Mason : 2:52 pm : link
1. Floyd
2. Conklin
3. Lawson

in that order?
RE: ...  
est1986 : 2:53 pm : link
In comment 12927813 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 2m2 minutes ago

The #Cowboys are working scenarios, but they sound like they are debating: #OSU RB Zeke Elliott vs. #FSU CB Jalen Ramsey.


How can they take Zeke over Jalen.. Does Jax take Bosa?
RE: Did Francesa just say his  
mphbullet36 : 2:54 pm : link
In comment 12927836 Mason said:
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1. Floyd
2. Conklin
3. Lawson

in that order?


shaq lawson should be no where near the conversation.
I like Lawson  
Victor in CT : 2:57 pm : link
.....
Bet the Giants  
Rflairr : 2:59 pm : link
Surprise everyone and pick Rankins. Get a pass rushing DT to rotate with Hankins and Snacks
RE: I like Lawson  
mphbullet36 : 3:00 pm : link
In comment 12927860 Victor in CT said:
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.....


in a trade down scenario fine. But he is not a top 10 talent.
RE: Bet the Giants  
jeff57 : 3:04 pm : link
In comment 12927863 Rflairr said:
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Surprise everyone and pick Rankins. Get a pass rushing DT to rotate with Hankins and Snacks

Wouldn't mind that at all. Like Rankins a lot.
. . . .  
jeff57 : 3:10 pm : link
"I'm not sure who Chargers are taking at No. 3 but I'm told by source it isn't gonna be Ron Stanley. We'll know for sure soon." - Alex Marvez, FOX Sports

Draft Elliott  
Giants in 07 : 3:20 pm : link
Sign Jerraud Powers
Trade for Anthony Davis
WR/DE (Shepard, Spence) in the 2nd
LB in the 3rd

I can't get over the prospect of Beckham and Elliott in blue for years to come.
RE: RE: ...  
RAIN : 3:21 pm : link
In comment 12927839 est1986 said:
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In comment 12927813 Eric from BBI said:


Quote:


Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 2m2 minutes ago

The #Cowboys are working scenarios, but they sound like they are debating: #OSU RB Zeke Elliott vs. #FSU CB Jalen Ramsey.



How can they take Zeke over Jalen.. Does Jax take Bosa?


Because Elliot is a very, very good prospect. Speed, Power, Catching, Blocking, healthy, etc. He's plug and play.
I think Bosa is the guy thats going to drop  
Rflairr : 3:23 pm : link
Booger McFarland said he knows Rod Marineli well. And Bosa isn't the type of DE he likes. The Cowboys aren't going to take him
I want rankins  
rdt288 : 3:28 pm : link
Could you imagine
Rankins, snacks, Hankins, Olivier, JPP?!?!?
I want one of Elliott/Treadwell/Stanley  
Giants31 : 3:29 pm : link
If we get Stanley, it would be great to get a Spence or Sterling Shepard with our second rounder. For me to get my wish, everyone on the planet would have to be wrong about either Floyd or Conklin to the Giants.
Booger McFarland  
cedwards : 3:31 pm : link
Is Booger McFarland the guy from Revenge of the Nerds?
The OT 6-7-8 scenario  
shyster : 3:32 pm : link
3. Buckner
4. Ramsey
5. Bosa
6. Tunsil
7. Stanley
8. Conklin (Titans' trade-up)
9. Hargreaves
10. Who else?
RE: Booger McFarland  
Victor in CT : 3:35 pm : link
In comment 12927970 cedwards said:
Quote:
Is Booger McFarland the guy from Revenge of the Nerds?


no, "He Got Game"

Booger in Revenge of the Nerds is Dudley Dawson
If the Giants are serious with this Bosa shit  
ghost718 : 3:55 pm : link
A TMZ video starring this guy better surface in the near future.

Something that will send Goodell running through the office hallways.
RE: I wouldn't mind Treadwell  
DelZotto : 3:59 pm : link
In comment 12926481 ZogZerg said:
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He has a passion for football. I guess it depends on whether Ben M. thinks he would be a great fit for the O.


Wouldn't surprise me at all, took a tackle that was rated in the 20's and moved him into the top ten. So the team that drafts for needs more than any other. The Pick is Karl Joseph.

Ian Rapaport just said on NFL Network  
Saos1n : 4:18 pm : link
That if Dallas doesn't select EE, watch for the Giants, Bears and Dolphins to move up to 8 for him...
RE: Ian Rapaport just said on NFL Network  
est1986 : 4:32 pm : link
In comment 12928181 Saos1n said:
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That if Dallas doesn't select EE, watch for the Giants, Bears and Dolphins to move up to 8 for him...


Can they really all move up to 8 and draft him for each team?
The Giants who run the GB form of WCO  
Rflairr : 4:33 pm : link
and already have Jennings and Vereen are going to move up for a RB? Bullshit
RE: Trade down  
OC2.0 : 4:44 pm : link
In comment 12927574 B in ALB said:
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One or two of their targets will still be there at 15-20. Grab another pick. Outside of maybe three or four guys this draft is somewhat devoid of no-brainer picks.


Speaking of which, if EE is sitting at 10 do we take him or, say Mia., is willing to deal what's the choice?
RE: RE: Trade down  
Jon in NYC : 4:47 pm : link
In comment 12928277 OC2.0 said:
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In comment 12927574 B in ALB said:


Quote:


One or two of their targets will still be there at 15-20. Grab another pick. Outside of maybe three or four guys this draft is somewhat devoid of no-brainer picks.



Speaking of which, if EE is sitting at 10 do we take him or, say Mia., is willing to deal what's the choice?


Trade down, grab an extra 3rd, and take Hargreaves.
RE: Why would anyone listen to gary myers for giants news?  
Jersey55 : 4:51 pm : link
In comment 12927412 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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the Giants use Gary Meyers to put out all of the misinformation they want to spread around to confuse people...
RE: RE: Ian Rapaport just said on NFL Network  
Saos1n : 5:00 pm : link
In comment 12928222 est1986 said:
Quote:
In comment 12928181 Saos1n said:


Quote:


That if Dallas doesn't select EE, watch for the Giants, Bears and Dolphins to move up to 8 for him...



Can they really all move up to 8 and draft him for each team?


Lol idiot
49ers  
sphinx : 5:09 pm : link
Ian Rapoport 2 minutes ago
Things that make you go hmmm: #49ers had no contact with QB Paxton Lynch predraft. But Chip Kelly confidante Dana Bible was at his Pro Day

Dave Te  
RAIN : 5:18 pm : link
on the other thread, has communicated that the impression with Lynch .. is he is Flaky, Spacey, etc.. not a great quality for a QB, despite the physical gifts. I would think that bodes well for a top 8 pick.

* that does not bode well  
RAIN : 5:22 pm : link
.
Browns  
sphinx : 5:25 pm : link
Ian Rapoport 7 minutes ago
The #Browns have spoken with teams about moving back in the 1st round and moving up into the 1st round from the 2nd. For a QB?

Vacchiano says Floyd or Conklin as well  
jeff57 : 5:30 pm : link
.
Link - ( New Window )
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5:39 pm : link
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 2m2 minutes ago

Would've been curious to see teams scrambling if Carson Wentz was there at 2 prior to Eagles trade. Saints love him, Cowboys do, too. Alas.
About to talk  
Fish : 5:43 pm : link
Giants and Cowboys on nfl network
Again  
B in ALB : 5:53 pm : link
Trade down and get more value from a rather mediocre draft. The Giants need talent and there is no singular talent at 10 and given their position as a team that would remotely rule out that decision.
Kim jones  
Fish : 5:53 pm : link
Said what we already know, that Reese going best available and could be Floyd or cocklin
For the love  
Jon in NYC : 6:03 pm : link
of God we cannot take Zeke.

How fuckin hot is Melissa Stark  
Jim Burt64 : 6:04 pm : link
Holy Christmas
Bosa is a damn Ant Eater  
Jim Burt64 : 6:06 pm : link
holy fuck
Conklins mom is hot - this is very material toour selection  
PatersonPlank : 6:10 pm : link
Another reason to get him
RE: Conklins mom is hot - this is very material toour selection  
Jim Burt64 : 6:11 pm : link
In comment 12928518 PatersonPlank said:
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Another reason to get him


Def a MILF... Agreed
I think Treadwell  
JPinstripes : 6:16 pm : link
would be a great compliment to OBJ.

Conklin would be a great add to a young and up and coming O-Line.

Floyd is intriguing in that he is projected to be a very good edge rusher in the NFL.

The Giants are going to get a good player folks, EE is the dark horse.

Floyd, Conklin, Treadwell or Elliott will be a Giant tonight.
Elliot looks like he could date Odell  
SimpleMan : 6:19 pm : link
after he breaks up with Drake.
good god they have made this like the academy awards  
gtt350 : 6:22 pm : link
red carpet shit for football players,
RE: I think Treadwell  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6:22 pm : link
In comment 12928528 JPinstripes said:
Quote:
would be a great compliment to OBJ.

Conklin would be a great add to a young and up and coming O-Line.

Floyd is intriguing in that he is projected to be a very good edge rusher in the NFL.

The Giants are going to get a good player folks, EE is the dark horse.

Floyd, Conklin, Treadwell or Elliott will be a Giant tonight.


Perhaps the most sane post of the day thus far.
RE: For the love  
AcidTest : 6:23 pm : link
In comment 12928503 Jon in NYC said:
Quote:
of God we cannot take Zeke.



I wondered when somebody was going to post that.
"they're kids scare em"  
gtt350 : 6:25 pm : link
.
Zeke looks um...  
Patrick77 : 6:34 pm : link
Jesus Christ. Taking Metro Douche to a whole other level.

It's going to tough for him when the Giants draft him and he learns BBI has definitively confirmed Beckham's straightness. He will be devastated.
Shaq's mom  
Jim Burt64 : 6:39 pm : link
Looks like a crackhead.. dayum
RE: I think Treadwell  
JohnVB : 6:40 pm : link
In comment 12928528 JPinstripes said:
Quote:
would be a great compliment to OBJ.

Conklin would be a great add to a young and up and coming O-Line.

Floyd is intriguing in that he is projected to be a very good edge rusher in the NFL.

The Giants are going to get a good player folks, EE is the dark horse.

Floyd, Conklin, Treadwell or Elliott will be a Giant tonight.


I agree except for Floyd. He's boom or bust in our system.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6:42 pm : link
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 7m7 minutes ago

Sounds like there could be a slew of potential trades tonight with teams on the clock. Could be a fun night in Chicago.
Email from Boylhart re: Floyd  
JohnVB : 6:42 pm : link
Quote:
John,
Thanks for your kind words, I think you seeing what your seeing. Nothing wrong with that but I have looked at film of Floyd before they move him to the MLB position. You are correct when he played the MLB position all of what you said is correct. If you catch him playing on the line of scrimage as a OLB or OLB/DE in a 3/4 that's when you see his potential. Getting off the line of scrimage, bending and making sacks and stringing running plays out shedding and making tackles. I do agree with you, I don't think he's a fit for the Giants defense. In fact when the Giants drafted Mathias Kiwanuka I felt the same way. He was never a fit for the Giants defense and he never became the impact player I thought he would become because he played off the line.

I think Reese looks at Floyd and thinks he will be very much like Kiwanuka and I think he is right and Floyd playing the same position o(Off The line of Scrimage) will have less impact like Mathias had.

I think you are right, not in your evaluation of Floyd's play and potential but in the fact that Floyd is not a fit for your defense. He has to play on the line as a OLB/DE in a 3/4 defense and not off the line as a OLB in a 4/3 defense.



Drew Boylhart
The Huddle Report. com
Author of the Book
"The Draftnik"
RE: RE: I think Treadwell  
GMen23 : 6:47 pm : link
and if we want to get greedy at pick up a 3rd for a 4th to move back
In comment 12928540 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 12928528 JPinstripes said:


Quote:


would be a great compliment to OBJ.

Conklin would be a great add to a young and up and coming O-Line.

Floyd is intriguing in that he is projected to be a very good edge rusher in the NFL.

The Giants are going to get a good player folks, EE is the dark horse.

Floyd, Conklin, Treadwell or Elliott will be a Giant tonight.



Perhaps the most sane post of the day thus far.


According to Draftek.coms 2016 Trade Chart

#10 1300 pts. Giants 4th #109 76pts
#13 1150 pts. Dolphins 3rd #73 225pts
One point difference

#15 1050 pts.
Titans 3rd #64 270 pts (1st of 3rd rd.)
1300 from Giants & 1320 from Titans. Pretty close.
If we have to give them our 6th, thats 17.6 points.

The Treadwell guys will like this. Im one of them, or an offensive one for #1, at least.
I want Jack.  
BlueHurricane : 7:00 pm : link
Hope our Dr did the work and cleared him. He's the best talent in the draft.
What  
Mr. Nickels : 7:01 pm : link
the fck is this red carpet bullshit?
Agreed - the Red Carpet stuff is way too much  
PatersonPlank : 7:03 pm : link
I was tired of it 1 hour ago.
RE: The OT 6-7-8 scenario  
Cruzin : 7:03 pm : link
In comment 12927979 shyster said:
Quote:
3. Buckner
4. Ramsey
5. Bosa
6. Tunsil
7. Stanley
8. Conklin (Titans' trade-up)
9. Hargreaves
10. Who else?


Shyster, that makes Floyd the easy pick. Do you think they'd go Elliot instead? Or maybe Jack, like Limerickguy says?
RE: What  
rocco8112 : 7:08 pm : link
In comment 12928617 Mr. Nickels said:
Quote:
the fck is this red carpet bullshit?


Nauseating the NFL sucks, love football but this league sucks.

We all keep gobbling it up though. I wanted Elliot, but after that outfit what the heck. This is supposed tbe a football.
Praying  
Craigg619 : 7:09 pm : link
For Miles Jack. Risk aside, the guy is the biggest beast in this draft. Man they really really need to draft him.
I want Jack or Conklin  
PatersonPlank : 7:12 pm : link
,
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7:12 pm : link
Has football turned gay? (not that there is anything wrong with that)
some reason I think if Tunsil falls within reasonable reach  
micky : 7:13 pm : link
?
The more that I have thought about it  
I really want Treadwell and Simmons in this draft. Not sure how we get there, but I think those are guys that would really help this team.
Can Mike Irvin speak English please  
Jim Burt64 : 7:18 pm : link
God damn... BTW, these boys have BEEN getting paid, with the bling & outfits... I know - No shit Sherlock..
RE: RE: The OT 6-7-8 scenario  
shyster : 7:18 pm : link
In comment 12928622 Cruzin said:
Quote:


Shyster, that makes Floyd the easy pick. Do you think they'd go Elliot instead? Or maybe Jack, like Limerickguy says?


Yes, that's the significance of the "who else?", as in: no need to even print the name. Wouldn't be my pick, even in that scenario, but I have to presume the Giants would get his name up there promptly.
Lee is a GIANTS fan  
Jim Burt64 : 7:21 pm : link
love it!
Daron Lee just said  
mofti : 7:21 pm : link
The Giants are his favorite team!
I wonder how a kid born in Tennessee  
sjnyfan : 7:22 pm : link
and grew up in Ohio became a Giants fan
Darron Lee  
Craigg619 : 7:23 pm : link
Just said his favorite team is Giants. Now I'll like him forever haha.
RE: Praying  
shabu : 7:23 pm : link
In comment 12928627 Craigg619 said:
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For Miles Jack. Risk aside, the guy is the biggest beast in this draft. Man they really really need to draft him.



you pray for pain... you will continue crying as the dood misses more time than beason..
Goffs mom  
Jim Burt64 : 7:24 pm : link
Haaawtie!
MSG radio  
Torn Tendon : 7:25 pm : link
saying Floyd is down to 220lbs. He becoming a safety?
RE: MSG radio  
Jon in NYC : 7:26 pm : link
In comment 12928672 Torn Tendon said:
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saying Floyd is down to 220lbs. He becoming a safety?


Jesus...that can't be true, can it? He lost 24 lbs in 2 months?
How would MSG have that info and not the national media  
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RE: How would MSG have that info and not the national media  
huygens20 : 7:29 pm : link
In comment 12928681 robbieballs2003 said:
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We're targeting him.
RE: I wonder how a kid born in Tennessee  
Klaatu : 7:30 pm : link
In comment 12928658 sjnyfan said:
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and grew up in Ohio became a Giants fan


I have a nephew who was born in Massachusetts, grew up in Michigan and New Jersey, and is a Seattle Seahawks fan.

Why? My brother-in-law is a Notre Dame alum, so, as a kid my nephew would watch the ND games with him. ND's QB at the time was Rick Mirer, and he became my nephew's favorite player. When Mirer got drafted by Seattle, my nephew "followed" him there. Even though Mirer was a disappointment, my nephew's allegiance to the Seahawks never wavered. Happy to say he was at MetLife when they won their first Super Bowl.
RE: How would MSG have that info and not the national media  
Torn Tendon : 7:31 pm : link
In comment 12928681 robbieballs2003 said:
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It was Dan Graziano that said it.
RE: MSG radio  
Jim Burt64 : 7:31 pm : link
In comment 12928672 Torn Tendon said:
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saying Floyd is down to 220lbs. He becoming a safety?


Latest pro-day pics of Floyd released

Floyd was 235 on Saturday  
shyster : 7:31 pm : link
at his Falcons' workout, per the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

Hasn't lost 15 pounds in 5 days.
RE: RE: MSG radio  
huygens20 : 7:32 pm : link
In comment 12928674 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 12928672 Torn Tendon said:


Quote:


saying Floyd is down to 220lbs. He becoming a safety?



Jesus...that can't be true, can it? He lost 24 lbs in 2 months?


He ate a shitload of food on his proday so he can weigh higher

He's 24 and can't fill out his 66 frame
RE: RE: Praying  
Craigg619 : 8:11 pm : link
In comment 12928661 shabu said:
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In comment 12928627 Craigg619 said:


Quote:


For Miles Jack. Risk aside, the guy is the biggest beast in this draft. Man they really really need to draft him.




you pray for pain... you will continue crying as the dood misses more time than beason..



That's fine man. We both have our opinion. I would personally take t chance but that's me.
Can't believe GB  
Rflairr : 11:16 pm : link
wouldn't take Ashawn
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