Even though Jack says that he never made an official visit to East Rutherford, the prospect of lining up on defense in Giants blue on Sunday afternoons at MetLife Stadium is an exciting one.
"That would be really cool," Jack told NJ Advance Media Wednesday at the NFL Play 60 event. "I went to New York for the first time, and I just fell in love with just how fast New York was. Just the fact that people honk their horns at you as soon as the light turns green. I love their 'lets go, I have places to be,' attitude and the fact that there's always people moving to your left and your right.
"I love that intensity. I feel like that city, they just want to see authenticity. If they saw the way I would play for that organization, I feel like not only could I win my teammates and my coaches, but I feel like I could win that city over. I would love to go to New York. That would be really cool."
The 6-foot-2, 210 pound target visited the Giants headquarters and gave a glimpse into how much he enjoyed his time with first-year head coach Ben McAdoo and the coaching staff.
"It went well," Treadwell said. "I met with the coach. I met with the receivers coach. We talked a lot of football. They put me on the board, I did my thing. It was fun. We watched film. He showed me some do's and don'ts, but it was really good.
"I think we would do well with myself, Eli and Odell Beckham Jr. We'd have two different styles of receiver. It would create a diverse team. We have a big, physical receiver who's flash quick who will make you miss and take it to the house.
"I'm a different breed. Hop up, go for the ball, fight for the ball every play and be a competitor all over the field. It would be great. Eli Manning at quarterback is one of the best quarterbacks in the league right now. That's what it's all about, having a great quarterback and getting in a system that fits you. Whatever happens, you just have to work with it."
The Giants view him as a three-down linebacker who can thrive in Steve Spagnuolos defensive system, especially with the upgraded defensive line cleaning up the congestion, allowing Floyd to use his speed to run to the ball. Hes also one of the best pass rushers in the draft, a lithe 6-foot-6 athlete. He will be 24 at the start of the season, but that does not worry the Giants.
is the most likely pick. The Giants want Floyd, but hell be gone. I can only hope that Reese passes on Jack, but Im not sure he wont. I also have to hope that he doesnt trade up for anyone, including Floyd or Jack. We only have six picks, and a million holes. He should be moving back.
The problem of course is that Reese is psychologically opposed to trading down, as evidenced by the fact that he has never done so, in any round. Conklin is a RT in the NFL. The #20 pick and an extra second rounder is more valuable.
Reese could then take Kyler Fackrell with one of the second round picks. Fackrell has the same lanky, lean, body as Floyd. I dont want Fackrell. Hes 25, his frame is probably maxed out, and he tore an ACL in September 2014. The strength of this draft is in the second through fourth rounds.
and he has his potential flaws. However, the game is changing and I think he could be a really special player. He allows coaches to be really creative in what they do with him. If the game went back to a run heavy game, he would not be your ideal choice, but given the continuing evolution to a pass heavy (only) league, he has a skill set that can create incredible match up problems for the other side. He also has the capacity to matchup on TEs which has been a 10 year problem for the Giants.
If you're drafting outside of your priority positions (OLT DB WR DL) this high in the round you only do so if you're getting a "clean" player. Neither Floyd or Jack seem to be that. At least from what we know Floyd seems undersized for his height with some questions about his game and Jack has health issues. Would much prefer Hargraeves at 10. He's a very good player with all the intangibles at a priority position. You need at least 3 good CBs. This would fit the bill short and long term. Hope he is still there. I think they'll take him if he is.
- I still think the most likely pick is Georgia linebacker Leonard Floyd. The Giants haven't taken a linebacker in the first round since Carl Banks in 1984, but all the things I wrote seven weeks ago about why Floyd could buck that trend hold up. He's a player the Giants' scouts and front office have loved for months, and there are people high up in the brain trust who believe he will and should be the pick.
- That said, Floyd is a hot name recently, and I've heard him connected with Tampa Bay at No. 9, Cleveland at No. 8, San Francisco at No. 7 and even Jacksonville at No. 5. So there's a chance the Giants might not be able to get him at No. 10.
- If Floyd is gone -- and possibly even if he's not -- the Giants could take an offensive player. Some in the brain trust have expressed the opinion that, after spending more than $100 million in guaranteed money on defensive free agents, it would be unwise for the Giants to also spend their top-10 pick on that side of the ball. Those people would prefer to take an offensive lineman in the top 10 for the second year in a row. The Giants' top-rated offensive lineman is Mississippi's Laremy Tunsil, but the odds are not good that he'll last until No. 10. I have been told their No. 2 offensive lineman is Michigan State's Jack Conklin, who could potentially start as a rookie at right tackle and allow the coaching staff to keep Flowers on the left side, where they believe he has elite upside.
- Multiple people have told me the Giants will not select UCLA linebacker Myles Jack at No. 10. Concerns about the condition of Jack's knee, combined with the Giants' generally lukewarm feelings about first-round linebackers (remember, they view Floyd as a pass-rusher who happens to play linebacker), have slid him far enough down their board that they think No. 10 is too high. The most-injured team in the league the past three years, the Giants aren't up for a first-round injury risk.
- I also don't expect them to take Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott, mainly because they think No. 10 is too high to take a running back when that's one of the few positions on their roster that has any depth and they have so many needs elsewhere. I can't get Elliott ruled out completely by people in the know, but I think a lot of weird things would have to happen in the top nine for him to be the pick at 10.
- They liked Florida cornerback Vernon Hargreaves at one point in this process, and could still take him. But I have not heard a lot of serious buzz about him and the Giants in the past week.
- If the Giants take an offensive player in the first round, a second-round name to keep an eye on could be Eastern Kentucky's Noah Spence -- the former five-star pass-rusher who got kicked out of Ohio State for multiple failed drug tests. Spence could get taken in the first round, but if he doesn't, he could be there for the Giants at No. 40 overall, and he brings the kind of high-end upside they crave in their young pass-rushers.
- I don't see them taking a receiver in the first round unless they trade down, which would be unprecedented in the Jerry Reese era. If you're looking for second- or third-round names to watch at wide receiver, think about Ohio State's Braxton Miller or Oklahoma's Sterling Shepard.
- I still think the most likely pick is Georgia linebacker Leonard Floyd. The Giants haven't taken a linebacker in the first round since Carl Banks in 1984, but all the things I wrote seven weeks ago about why Floyd could buck that trend hold up. He's a player the Giants' scouts and front office have loved for months, and there are people high up in the brain trust who believe he will and should be the pick.
- That said, Floyd is a hot name recently, and I've heard him connected with Tampa Bay at No. 9, Cleveland at No. 8, San Francisco at No. 7 and even Jacksonville at No. 5. So there's a chance the Giants might not be able to get him at No. 10.
- If Floyd is gone -- and possibly even if he's not -- the Giants could take an offensive player. Some in the brain trust have expressed the opinion that, after spending more than $100 million in guaranteed money on defensive free agents, it would be unwise for the Giants to also spend their top-10 pick on that side of the ball. Those people would prefer to take an offensive lineman in the top 10 for the second year in a row. The Giants' top-rated offensive lineman is Mississippi's Laremy Tunsil, but the odds are not good that he'll last until No. 10. I have been told their No. 2 offensive lineman is Michigan State's Jack Conklin, who could potentially start as a rookie at right tackle and allow the coaching staff to keep Flowers on the left side, where they believe he has elite upside.
- Multiple people have told me the Giants will not select UCLA linebacker Myles Jack at No. 10. Concerns about the condition of Jack's knee, combined with the Giants' generally lukewarm feelings about first-round linebackers (remember, they view Floyd as a pass-rusher who happens to play linebacker), have slid him far enough down their board that they think No. 10 is too high. The most-injured team in the league the past three years, the Giants aren't up for a first-round injury risk.
- I also don't expect them to take Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott, mainly because they think No. 10 is too high to take a running back when that's one of the few positions on their roster that has any depth and they have so many needs elsewhere. I can't get Elliott ruled out completely by people in the know, but I think a lot of weird things would have to happen in the top nine for him to be the pick at 10.
- They liked Florida cornerback Vernon Hargreaves at one point in this process, and could still take him. But I have not heard a lot of serious buzz about him and the Giants in the past week.
- If the Giants take an offensive player in the first round, a second-round name to keep an eye on could be Eastern Kentucky's Noah Spence -- the former five-star pass-rusher who got kicked out of Ohio State for multiple failed drug tests. Spence could get taken in the first round, but if he doesn't, he could be there for the Giants at No. 40 overall, and he brings the kind of high-end upside they crave in their young pass-rushers.
- I don't see them taking a receiver in the first round unless they trade down, which would be unprecedented in the Jerry Reese era. If you're looking for second- or third-round names to watch at wide receiver, think about Ohio State's Braxton Miller or Oklahoma's Sterling Shepard.
Leonard Floyd? Jack Conklin? The latest on the Giants' first-round draft plans - ( New Window )
The irony in all these Floyd "meltdowns" the last few weeks or so? He may not even be there for us given how some teams above us ALLEGEDLY value him as a pick..
Have had 3 GMs say that Georgia LB/DE Leonard Floyd will end up in the top 10 tonight. Project him as best potential right end/pass rusher
How is he still projected as a DE? I don't get it at all.
I could see him lining up there as a LEO in certain alignments. You don't need to have great size to play there.. I know Bradley used to do it with Clemons in Seattle. He'll have space and line up wide as an edge rusher. This is a player I think you can do a lot of different things with.
glad I'm not Reese. BBI seems split and not only do there appear to be many contingencies in front of the Giants, but the injury issues and the differences in opinion concerning prospective candidates are legion as well. The team needs are still a bit too many for comfort, and the injury issues surrounding the players probably of interest to the Giants at 10 also raise serious concerns.
I either don't believe these rumors the Giants might swap with the Browns or think it's a horrible idea. If Elliott is there and Floyd isn't, I'd choose Elliott over Conklin. I think Jack is going to slip down below 10.
would surprise me. If they were so dead set on Floyd, we wouldn't have heard about Conklin among others this late in the process. I'm guessing Floyd is the top guy on a tier, not the only guy on that tier, if that makes sense.
would surprise me. If they were so dead set on Floyd, we wouldn't have heard about Conklin among others this late in the process. I'm guessing Floyd is the top guy on a tier, not the only guy on that tier, if that makes sense.
That's how I interpret hitdog's comments from yesterday.
is the most likely pick. The Giants want Floyd, but hell be gone. I can only hope that Reese passes on Jack, but Im not sure he wont. I also have to hope that he doesnt trade up for anyone, including Floyd or Jack. We only have six picks, and a million holes. He should be moving back.
The problem of course is that Reese is psychologically opposed to trading down, as evidenced by the fact that he has never done so, in any round. Conklin is a RT in the NFL. The #20 pick and an extra second rounder is more valuable.
Reese could then take Kyler Fackrell with one of the second round picks. Fackrell has the same lanky, lean, body as Floyd. I dont want Fackrell. Hes 25, his frame is probably maxed out, and he tore an ACL in September 2014. The strength of this draft is in the second through fourth rounds.
This, with Jack falling Floyd is rising he wont be there...leaving us with Conklin.. which is just fine...
that they very well could trade up for Floyd. If they really love the kid and he's supposedly the hot prospect right now it could happen. They're looking for impact and I think he provides that in their mind. They could stand pat and take Conklin but it's starting to feel like a trade up scenario to me.
take Conklin. Please someone else take Floyd. I see a situational, 3rd down, pass rushing guy. A good addition but certainly not a top pick. I hope I am wrong since it seems thats the way its going.
2- Myles Jack is widely considered the best player with the highest ceiling...teams nervous about knee...Jags could move back & get him
maybe this is why the giants are throwing smokescreens. Make the jags trade back behind Giants (giants making it seem they wont pick him). But pick him at 10 anyways???
Reece has to get this #10 Pick Right
if there are any doubt's about the remaining
quality at 10 Then I hope we have a Tradedown
in place and we can get 4-5 picks in the top
120 . Fill the Needs as best as possible .
I like Hargreaves and I'm warming to Treadwell .
Have no problem filling the RT spot either .
Hargreaves steps in immediately as the 3rd corner and is great insurance should DRC of Jenkins miss some time. Conklin becomes the RT and would immediately upgrade the run game and give the Giants young bookends to protect Eli. Shaq Lawson has legit Giants DE size and skills. The Giants have lacked pass rushing depth and Lawson and Odighizuwa would give the Giants options...especially with JPP playing on a one year deal.
All these players will be solid pros IMO and will look very nice in NYG Blue.
All these players will be solid pros IMO and will look very nice in NYG Blue.
We could use all three so anyone is a welcomed addition. Treadwell probably has the most day one impact.
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"That would be really cool," Jack told NJ Advance Media Wednesday at the NFL Play 60 event. "I went to New York for the first time, and I just fell in love with just how fast New York was. Just the fact that people honk their horns at you as soon as the light turns green. I love their 'lets go, I have places to be,' attitude and the fact that there's always people moving to your left and your right.
"I love that intensity. I feel like that city, they just want to see authenticity. If they saw the way I would play for that organization, I feel like not only could I win my teammates and my coaches, but I feel like I could win that city over. I would love to go to New York. That would be really cool."
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"It went well," Treadwell said. "I met with the coach. I met with the receivers coach. We talked a lot of football. They put me on the board, I did my thing. It was fun. We watched film. He showed me some do's and don'ts, but it was really good.
"I think we would do well with myself, Eli and Odell Beckham Jr. We'd have two different styles of receiver. It would create a diverse team. We have a big, physical receiver who's flash quick who will make you miss and take it to the house.
"I'm a different breed. Hop up, go for the ball, fight for the ball every play and be a competitor all over the field. It would be great. Eli Manning at quarterback is one of the best quarterbacks in the league right now. That's what it's all about, having a great quarterback and getting in a system that fits you. Whatever happens, you just have to work with it."
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The Giants view him as a three-down linebacker who can thrive in Steve Spagnuolos defensive system, especially with the upgraded defensive line cleaning up the congestion, allowing Floyd to use his speed to run to the ball. Hes also one of the best pass rushers in the draft, a lithe 6-foot-6 athlete. He will be 24 at the start of the season, but that does not worry the Giants.
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The problem of course is that Reese is psychologically opposed to trading down, as evidenced by the fact that he has never done so, in any round. Conklin is a RT in the NFL. The #20 pick and an extra second rounder is more valuable.
Reese could then take Kyler Fackrell with one of the second round picks. Fackrell has the same lanky, lean, body as Floyd. I dont want Fackrell. Hes 25, his frame is probably maxed out, and he tore an ACL in September 2014. The strength of this draft is in the second through fourth rounds.
I think he is an interesting choice.
Have had 3 GMs say that Georgia LB/DE Leonard Floyd will end up in the top 10 tonight. Project him as best potential right end/pass rusher
Have had 3 GMs say that Georgia LB/DE Leonard Floyd will end up in the top 10 tonight. Project him as best potential right end/pass rusher
How is he still projected as a DE? I don't get it at all.
- That said, Floyd is a hot name recently, and I've heard him connected with Tampa Bay at No. 9, Cleveland at No. 8, San Francisco at No. 7 and even Jacksonville at No. 5. So there's a chance the Giants might not be able to get him at No. 10.
- If Floyd is gone -- and possibly even if he's not -- the Giants could take an offensive player. Some in the brain trust have expressed the opinion that, after spending more than $100 million in guaranteed money on defensive free agents, it would be unwise for the Giants to also spend their top-10 pick on that side of the ball. Those people would prefer to take an offensive lineman in the top 10 for the second year in a row. The Giants' top-rated offensive lineman is Mississippi's Laremy Tunsil, but the odds are not good that he'll last until No. 10. I have been told their No. 2 offensive lineman is Michigan State's Jack Conklin, who could potentially start as a rookie at right tackle and allow the coaching staff to keep Flowers on the left side, where they believe he has elite upside.
- Multiple people have told me the Giants will not select UCLA linebacker Myles Jack at No. 10. Concerns about the condition of Jack's knee, combined with the Giants' generally lukewarm feelings about first-round linebackers (remember, they view Floyd as a pass-rusher who happens to play linebacker), have slid him far enough down their board that they think No. 10 is too high. The most-injured team in the league the past three years, the Giants aren't up for a first-round injury risk.
- I also don't expect them to take Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott, mainly because they think No. 10 is too high to take a running back when that's one of the few positions on their roster that has any depth and they have so many needs elsewhere. I can't get Elliott ruled out completely by people in the know, but I think a lot of weird things would have to happen in the top nine for him to be the pick at 10.
- They liked Florida cornerback Vernon Hargreaves at one point in this process, and could still take him. But I have not heard a lot of serious buzz about him and the Giants in the past week.
- If the Giants take an offensive player in the first round, a second-round name to keep an eye on could be Eastern Kentucky's Noah Spence -- the former five-star pass-rusher who got kicked out of Ohio State for multiple failed drug tests. Spence could get taken in the first round, but if he doesn't, he could be there for the Giants at No. 40 overall, and he brings the kind of high-end upside they crave in their young pass-rushers.
- I don't see them taking a receiver in the first round unless they trade down, which would be unprecedented in the Jerry Reese era. If you're looking for second- or third-round names to watch at wide receiver, think about Ohio State's Braxton Miller or Oklahoma's Sterling Shepard.
Leonard Floyd? Jack Conklin? The latest on the Giants' first-round draft plans - ( New Window )
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- I still think the most likely pick is Georgia linebacker Leonard Floyd. The Giants haven't taken a linebacker in the first round since Carl Banks in 1984, but all the things I wrote seven weeks ago about why Floyd could buck that trend hold up. He's a player the Giants' scouts and front office have loved for months, and there are people high up in the brain trust who believe he will and should be the pick.
- That said, Floyd is a hot name recently, and I've heard him connected with Tampa Bay at No. 9, Cleveland at No. 8, San Francisco at No. 7 and even Jacksonville at No. 5. So there's a chance the Giants might not be able to get him at No. 10.
- If Floyd is gone -- and possibly even if he's not -- the Giants could take an offensive player. Some in the brain trust have expressed the opinion that, after spending more than $100 million in guaranteed money on defensive free agents, it would be unwise for the Giants to also spend their top-10 pick on that side of the ball. Those people would prefer to take an offensive lineman in the top 10 for the second year in a row. The Giants' top-rated offensive lineman is Mississippi's Laremy Tunsil, but the odds are not good that he'll last until No. 10. I have been told their No. 2 offensive lineman is Michigan State's Jack Conklin, who could potentially start as a rookie at right tackle and allow the coaching staff to keep Flowers on the left side, where they believe he has elite upside.
- Multiple people have told me the Giants will not select UCLA linebacker Myles Jack at No. 10. Concerns about the condition of Jack's knee, combined with the Giants' generally lukewarm feelings about first-round linebackers (remember, they view Floyd as a pass-rusher who happens to play linebacker), have slid him far enough down their board that they think No. 10 is too high. The most-injured team in the league the past three years, the Giants aren't up for a first-round injury risk.
- I also don't expect them to take Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott, mainly because they think No. 10 is too high to take a running back when that's one of the few positions on their roster that has any depth and they have so many needs elsewhere. I can't get Elliott ruled out completely by people in the know, but I think a lot of weird things would have to happen in the top nine for him to be the pick at 10.
- They liked Florida cornerback Vernon Hargreaves at one point in this process, and could still take him. But I have not heard a lot of serious buzz about him and the Giants in the past week.
- If the Giants take an offensive player in the first round, a second-round name to keep an eye on could be Eastern Kentucky's Noah Spence -- the former five-star pass-rusher who got kicked out of Ohio State for multiple failed drug tests. Spence could get taken in the first round, but if he doesn't, he could be there for the Giants at No. 40 overall, and he brings the kind of high-end upside they crave in their young pass-rushers.
- I don't see them taking a receiver in the first round unless they trade down, which would be unprecedented in the Jerry Reese era. If you're looking for second- or third-round names to watch at wide receiver, think about Ohio State's Braxton Miller or Oklahoma's Sterling Shepard.
Leonard Floyd? Jack Conklin? The latest on the Giants' first-round draft plans - ( New Window )
The irony in all these Floyd "meltdowns" the last few weeks or so? He may not even be there for us given how some teams above us ALLEGEDLY value him as a pick..
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Have had 3 GMs say that Georgia LB/DE Leonard Floyd will end up in the top 10 tonight. Project him as best potential right end/pass rusher
How is he still projected as a DE? I don't get it at all.
I could see him lining up there as a LEO in certain alignments. You don't need to have great size to play there.. I know Bradley used to do it with Clemons in Seattle. He'll have space and line up wide as an edge rusher. This is a player I think you can do a lot of different things with.
There's probably a good chance of that happening.
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going to be hilarious to see Floyd go no. 9, we pass on Jack and end up with Conklin.
There's probably a good chance of that happening.
Oh I know.
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going to be hilarious to see Floyd go no. 9, we pass on Jack and end up with Conklin.
There's probably a good chance of that happening.
Oh I know.
Which creates the possibility of Reese giving up a 4 to move up to 8 to take Floyd.
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In comment 12926765 Jon in NYC said:
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going to be hilarious to see Floyd go no. 9, we pass on Jack and end up with Conklin.
There's probably a good chance of that happening.
Oh I know.
Which creates the possibility of Reese giving up a 4 to move up to 8 to take Floyd.
If that happens, I'll agoid this site until tomorrow..:)
That's how I interpret hitdog's comments from yesterday.
The problem of course is that Reese is psychologically opposed to trading down, as evidenced by the fact that he has never done so, in any round. Conklin is a RT in the NFL. The #20 pick and an extra second rounder is more valuable.
Reese could then take Kyler Fackrell with one of the second round picks. Fackrell has the same lanky, lean, body as Floyd. I dont want Fackrell. Hes 25, his frame is probably maxed out, and he tore an ACL in September 2014. The strength of this draft is in the second through fourth rounds.
This, with Jack falling Floyd is rising he wont be there...leaving us with Conklin.. which is just fine...
Nothing bad about Conklin. Actually a good pick imho
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maybe this is why the giants are throwing smokescreens. Make the jags trade back behind Giants (giants making it seem they wont pick him). But pick him at 10 anyways???
Interesting dynamic at bottom of top 10, with the Browns and Bucs very open to drop. Teams could move up for Elliott/Rankins/Floyd there
if there are any doubt's about the remaining
quality at 10 Then I hope we have a Tradedown
in place and we can get 4-5 picks in the top
120 . Fill the Needs as best as possible .
I like Hargreaves and I'm warming to Treadwell .
Have no problem filling the RT spot either .