Gary Myers (@garymyersNYDN)
4/28/16, 12:17 PM
Now I'm hearing NYG will for sure go for best OT on board at No. 10 and that looks like Jack Conklin. Want OT over LB Leonard Floyd
Gary Myers (@garymyersNYDN)
4/28/16, 12:17 PM
Now I'm hearing NYG will for sure go for best OT on board at No. 10 and that looks like Jack Conklin. Want OT over LB Leonard Floyd
Charlie Campbell 1 minute ago
Per sources, #Redkins targeting an Alabama player in the first round. #Jaguars target Bosa. Jack plan B.
1-LA: Goff
2-PHI: Wentz
3-SD: Ramsey
4-DAL: Elliott
5-JAC: Bosa
6-BAL: Brukner
7-SF: Tunsil
8-CLE: Stanley
9-TB: Floyd
10-NYG: Conklin w/ Hargraeves and Jack still on the board?
One or two of their targets will still be there at 15-20. Grab another pick. Outside of maybe three or four guys this draft is somewhat devoid of no-brainer picks.
which is now a possibility, do the Giants grab him or do they feel he's overrated?
read somewhere Giants have no interest in Bosa, not close to their type of player with what they seek at DE athletic ability/bend wise and obviously his offield flags are a big no no for Giants FO
- I still think the most likely pick is Georgia linebacker Leonard Floyd. The Giants haven't taken a linebacker in the first round since Carl Banks in 1984, but all the things I wrote seven weeks ago about why Floyd could buck that trend hold up. He's a player the Giants' scouts and front office have loved for months, and there are people high up in the brain trust who believe he will and should be the pick.
- That said, Floyd is a hot name recently, and I've heard him connected with Tampa Bay at No. 9, Cleveland at No. 8, San Francisco at No. 7 and even Jacksonville at No. 5. So there's a chance the Giants might not be able to get him at No. 10.
- If Floyd is gone -- and possibly even if he's not -- the Giants could take an offensive player. Some in the brain trust have expressed the opinion that, after spending more than $100 million in guaranteed money on defensive free agents, it would be unwise for the Giants to also spend their top-10 pick on that side of the ball. Those people would prefer to take an offensive lineman in the top 10 for the second year in a row. The Giants' top-rated offensive lineman is Mississippi's Laremy Tunsil, but the odds are not good that he'll last until No. 10. I have been told their No. 2 offensive lineman is Michigan State's Jack Conklin, who could potentially start as a rookie at right tackle and allow the coaching staff to keep Flowers on the left side, where they believe he has elite upside.
- Multiple people have told me the Giants will not select UCLA linebacker Myles Jack at No. 10. Concerns about the condition of Jack's knee, combined with the Giants' generally lukewarm feelings about first-round linebackers (remember, they view Floyd as a pass-rusher who happens to play linebacker), have slid him far enough down their board that they think No. 10 is too high. The most-injured team in the league the past three years, the Giants aren't up for a first-round injury risk.
- I also don't expect them to take Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott, mainly because they think No. 10 is too high to take a running back when that's one of the few positions on their roster that has any depth and they have so many needs elsewhere. I can't get Elliott ruled out completely by people in the know, but I think a lot of weird things would have to happen in the top nine for him to be the pick at 10.
- They liked Florida cornerback Vernon Hargreaves at one point in this process, and could still take him. But I have not heard a lot of serious buzz about him and the Giants in the past week.
- If the Giants take an offensive player in the first round, a second-round name to keep an eye on could be Eastern Kentucky's Noah Spence -- the former five-star pass-rusher who got kicked out of Ohio State for multiple failed drug tests. Spence could get taken in the first round, but if he doesn't, he could be there for the Giants at No. 40 overall, and he brings the kind of high-end upside they crave in their young pass-rushers.
- I don't see them taking a receiver in the first round unless they trade down, which would be unprecedented in the Jerry Reese era. If you're looking for second- or third-round names to watch at wide receiver, think about Ohio State's Braxton Miller or Oklahoma's Sterling Shepard.
Leonard Floyd? Jack Conklin? The latest on the Giants' first-round draft plans - ( New Window )
I would be surprised if Floyd goes before #10, but you never really know. Outside of the first 2 picks, not
quite sure in this draft. I probably agree on Jack, at least
as far as the Giants are concerned with his medicals.
It wouldn't bother me at least if they take a Conklin.
I don't know what the love affair is with a project like
Braxton Miller. If they are going to draft a receiver
by Round 3, draft a frigging receiver. I know the kid is
a good athlete. JR has drafted enough projects in the 3rd,
simply as a team, NOT in a position to do that NOW!
that it matters, but I'm officially in the Conklin over Floyd camp. I like Floyd, and he brings some skills that the Giants just don't have, but there are definitely some red flags.
I'm also a believer that you need to be able to run the ball in order to have success, and Conklin would be a big help in the run game for 10+ years.
Allen Trieu: This one is a little bit of a different story from the rest. Jack wasn't a five-star recruit. Heck, he wasn't even a two-star recruit.
His father, Darren Conklin, was also his high school coach, and Coach Conklin contacted me in April of 2011 to get me some information on Jack. He said at the time, that despite no offers, and despite maybe some bias as being his father, he felt his son could play for and contribute at a major college.
He had already started two years on varsity and was 6-foot-5, 280 pounds. He ran a 5.14 forty (he ran 5.00 at the NFL Combine this year) and carried a 3.5 GPA in the classroom. Everything seemed to check off.
The film, however, was hard to evaluate. It was shot from far away, was a little grainy and it was hard to tell just how good the prospect was. His dad explained that some of their opponents didn't offer great spots to shoot from facilities-wise.
The family visited Colorado and Northwestern, but with no offers. Ball State, Eastern Michigan and others came to the school, but no offers. I saw him at Michigan's camp. He performed well. No offer. Not even from the MAC programs who were there. He skipped the high-exposure camp, Sound Mind Sound Body, to go to Wisconsin, but no offer came from the Badgers.
Early in his senior season, his dad sent me an updated three-game highlight. Not only was the film quality better, but Jack looked better. He was now 6-foot-6 and crushing opponents. Still, no offers came.
In February, Coach Conklin informed me that Jack would be going to Fork Union Military Academy despite preferred walk-on offers from Western Michigan, Michigan and Illinois. Part of that was because Jack was a young senior and wouldn't turn 18 until August. He would have an opportunity to be recruited again by D-1 schools at FUMA and earn a scholarship.
In April, nearly a year after he had first made contact, Coach Conklin told us that Michigan State had offered Jack and he committed to the Spartans, no longer attending Fork Union. They were still figuring out when his scholarship would start, but it was essentially a greyshirt offer.
After seeing his full senior tape, the Spartans knew he was a kid they wanted. It was obvious then that they had a gem, but it still was not obvious we were looking at a future NFL 1st Round draft choice.
The break in real talent is expected to happen just before our pick and we will be left to settle for a decent player with obvious warts to his game.
Of course every team, unless they have the first overall pick, probably feels the same way! And our overanalysis and tireless debate of draft prospects makes their flaws seem all the larger. By this point we almost forget how good these players are. We'll get a good one.
I don't trade up. This is all smoke. Jax wants Jack, wants to trade down to get him.
Browns want more picks and are raffling off the pick at #8. Elliot is the play there.
If I'm the Giants, i'm working with Titans to try and trade back. Three players in the top 45 is something that should be a goal.
We could get a Corner (apple or hargreaves) or WR in rd 1, then a Guard (Whitehair or Garnett) with the first of our 2's, Then a slot CB or WR in the second of our 2's.
Or, If we are sitting at #15, we could trade down again to get a third second rounder + and really infuse the roster with some talent on both sides of the ball.
"I'm not sure who Chargers are taking at No. 3 but I'm told by source it isn't gonna be Ron Stanley. We'll know for sure soon." - Alex Marvez, FOX Sports
If we get Stanley, it would be great to get a Spence or Sterling Shepard with our second rounder. For me to get my wish, everyone on the planet would have to be wrong about either Floyd or Conklin to the Giants.
If some team screws up, Giants get a stud. If not, they pick from a long list of flawed players, hopefully BPA.
We need another team desperate for a QB to trade up.
I was a SPOON-er! good times.
4/28/16, 12:17 PM
Now I'm hearing NYG will for sure go for best OT on board at No. 10 and that looks like Jack Conklin. Want OT over LB Leonard Floyd
4/28/16, 12:17 PM
Now I'm hearing NYG will for sure go for best OT on board at No. 10 and that looks like Jack Conklin. Want OT over LB Leonard Floyd
FFS.
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I was a SPOON-er! good times.
Lol.
What about Kenny Britt vs Hakeem Nicks?
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In comment 12926850 JohnVB said:
What about Kenny Britt vs Hakeem Nicks?
I wanted Maualuga (yeah, I ask for LB every year!)
Per sources, #Redkins targeting an Alabama player in the first round. #Jaguars target Bosa. Jack plan B.
3. Leonard Floyd could be a real possibility to Jacksonville at 5. If not, don't expect him to slip past 11. @NFLonFOX
Per sources, #Redkins targeting an Alabama player in the first round. #Jaguars target Bosa. Jack plan B.
1-LA: Goff
2-PHI: Wentz
3-SD: Ramsey
4-DAL: Elliott
5-JAC: Bosa
6-BAL: Brukner
7-SF: Tunsil
8-CLE: Stanley
9-TB: Floyd
10-NYG: Conklin w/ Hargraeves and Jack still on the board?
Do Jags take Leonard Floyd at 5? I know one team in top 10 who has him as top rated pass rusher in Draft. 6 hours to go! @NFLonFOX
Sources: #Bama LB Reggie Ragland was flagged for an enlarged aorta, which requires yearly monitoring. Some teams have pushed him down a bit
If the Titans want Jack Conklin it sounds like they have to beat the Giants to it. Trading into back half of top 10 is a REAL possibility
2-Wentz
3-Stanley
4-Ramsey
5-Floyd
6-Buckner
7-Tunsil
8-Conklin
9-Hargreaves
10-Elliot? Jack? Treadwell?
read somewhere Giants have no interest in Bosa, not close to their type of player with what they seek at DE athletic ability/bend wise and obviously his offield flags are a big no no for Giants FO
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- I still think the most likely pick is Georgia linebacker Leonard Floyd. The Giants haven't taken a linebacker in the first round since Carl Banks in 1984, but all the things I wrote seven weeks ago about why Floyd could buck that trend hold up. He's a player the Giants' scouts and front office have loved for months, and there are people high up in the brain trust who believe he will and should be the pick.
- That said, Floyd is a hot name recently, and I've heard him connected with Tampa Bay at No. 9, Cleveland at No. 8, San Francisco at No. 7 and even Jacksonville at No. 5. So there's a chance the Giants might not be able to get him at No. 10.
- If Floyd is gone -- and possibly even if he's not -- the Giants could take an offensive player. Some in the brain trust have expressed the opinion that, after spending more than $100 million in guaranteed money on defensive free agents, it would be unwise for the Giants to also spend their top-10 pick on that side of the ball. Those people would prefer to take an offensive lineman in the top 10 for the second year in a row. The Giants' top-rated offensive lineman is Mississippi's Laremy Tunsil, but the odds are not good that he'll last until No. 10. I have been told their No. 2 offensive lineman is Michigan State's Jack Conklin, who could potentially start as a rookie at right tackle and allow the coaching staff to keep Flowers on the left side, where they believe he has elite upside.
- Multiple people have told me the Giants will not select UCLA linebacker Myles Jack at No. 10. Concerns about the condition of Jack's knee, combined with the Giants' generally lukewarm feelings about first-round linebackers (remember, they view Floyd as a pass-rusher who happens to play linebacker), have slid him far enough down their board that they think No. 10 is too high. The most-injured team in the league the past three years, the Giants aren't up for a first-round injury risk.
- I also don't expect them to take Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott, mainly because they think No. 10 is too high to take a running back when that's one of the few positions on their roster that has any depth and they have so many needs elsewhere. I can't get Elliott ruled out completely by people in the know, but I think a lot of weird things would have to happen in the top nine for him to be the pick at 10.
- They liked Florida cornerback Vernon Hargreaves at one point in this process, and could still take him. But I have not heard a lot of serious buzz about him and the Giants in the past week.
- If the Giants take an offensive player in the first round, a second-round name to keep an eye on could be Eastern Kentucky's Noah Spence -- the former five-star pass-rusher who got kicked out of Ohio State for multiple failed drug tests. Spence could get taken in the first round, but if he doesn't, he could be there for the Giants at No. 40 overall, and he brings the kind of high-end upside they crave in their young pass-rushers.
- I don't see them taking a receiver in the first round unless they trade down, which would be unprecedented in the Jerry Reese era. If you're looking for second- or third-round names to watch at wide receiver, think about Ohio State's Braxton Miller or Oklahoma's Sterling Shepard.
Leonard Floyd? Jack Conklin? The latest on the Giants' first-round draft plans - ( New Window )
I would be surprised if Floyd goes before #10, but you never really know. Outside of the first 2 picks, not
quite sure in this draft. I probably agree on Jack, at least
as far as the Giants are concerned with his medicals.
It wouldn't bother me at least if they take a Conklin.
I don't know what the love affair is with a project like
Braxton Miller. If they are going to draft a receiver
by Round 3, draft a frigging receiver. I know the kid is
a good athlete. JR has drafted enough projects in the 3rd,
simply as a team, NOT in a position to do that NOW!
I'm also a believer that you need to be able to run the ball in order to have success, and Conklin would be a big help in the run game for 10+ years.
Big news if true.
Source?
His father, Darren Conklin, was also his high school coach, and Coach Conklin contacted me in April of 2011 to get me some information on Jack. He said at the time, that despite no offers, and despite maybe some bias as being his father, he felt his son could play for and contribute at a major college.
He had already started two years on varsity and was 6-foot-5, 280 pounds. He ran a 5.14 forty (he ran 5.00 at the NFL Combine this year) and carried a 3.5 GPA in the classroom. Everything seemed to check off.
The film, however, was hard to evaluate. It was shot from far away, was a little grainy and it was hard to tell just how good the prospect was. His dad explained that some of their opponents didn't offer great spots to shoot from facilities-wise.
The family visited Colorado and Northwestern, but with no offers. Ball State, Eastern Michigan and others came to the school, but no offers. I saw him at Michigan's camp. He performed well. No offer. Not even from the MAC programs who were there. He skipped the high-exposure camp, Sound Mind Sound Body, to go to Wisconsin, but no offer came from the Badgers.
Early in his senior season, his dad sent me an updated three-game highlight. Not only was the film quality better, but Jack looked better. He was now 6-foot-6 and crushing opponents. Still, no offers came.
In February, Coach Conklin informed me that Jack would be going to Fork Union Military Academy despite preferred walk-on offers from Western Michigan, Michigan and Illinois. Part of that was because Jack was a young senior and wouldn't turn 18 until August. He would have an opportunity to be recruited again by D-1 schools at FUMA and earn a scholarship.
In April, nearly a year after he had first made contact, Coach Conklin told us that Michigan State had offered Jack and he committed to the Spartans, no longer attending Fork Union. They were still figuring out when his scholarship would start, but it was essentially a greyshirt offer.
After seeing his full senior tape, the Spartans knew he was a kid they wanted. It was obvious then that they had a gem, but it still was not obvious we were looking at a future NFL 1st Round draft choice.
Of course every team, unless they have the first overall pick, probably feels the same way! And our overanalysis and tireless debate of draft prospects makes their flaws seem all the larger. By this point we almost forget how good these players are. We'll get a good one.
Enjoy tonight guys!
Browns want more picks and are raffling off the pick at #8. Elliot is the play there.
If I'm the Giants, i'm working with Titans to try and trade back. Three players in the top 45 is something that should be a goal.
We could get a Corner (apple or hargreaves) or WR in rd 1, then a Guard (Whitehair or Garnett) with the first of our 2's, Then a slot CB or WR in the second of our 2's.
Or, If we are sitting at #15, we could trade down again to get a third second rounder + and really infuse the roster with some talent on both sides of the ball.
The #Cowboys are working scenarios, but they sound like they are debating: #OSU RB Zeke Elliott vs. #FSU CB Jalen Ramsey.
2. Conklin
3. Lawson
in that order?
The #Cowboys are working scenarios, but they sound like they are debating: #OSU RB Zeke Elliott vs. #FSU CB Jalen Ramsey.
How can they take Zeke over Jalen.. Does Jax take Bosa?
2. Conklin
3. Lawson
in that order?
shaq lawson should be no where near the conversation.
in a trade down scenario fine. But he is not a top 10 talent.
Wouldn't mind that at all. Like Rankins a lot.
Trade for Anthony Davis
WR/DE (Shepard, Spence) in the 2nd
LB in the 3rd
I can't get over the prospect of Beckham and Elliott in blue for years to come.
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Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 2m2 minutes ago
The #Cowboys are working scenarios, but they sound like they are debating: #OSU RB Zeke Elliott vs. #FSU CB Jalen Ramsey.
How can they take Zeke over Jalen.. Does Jax take Bosa?
Because Elliot is a very, very good prospect. Speed, Power, Catching, Blocking, healthy, etc. He's plug and play.
Rankins, snacks, Hankins, Olivier, JPP?!?!?
4. Ramsey
5. Bosa
6. Tunsil
7. Stanley
8. Conklin (Titans' trade-up)
9. Hargreaves
10. Who else?
no, "He Got Game"
Booger in Revenge of the Nerds is Dudley Dawson