What in the world does the value of the Mets rotation have to do with keeping Neil Walker? Matz and Syndergaard won't even be FA until post-Neil Walker even likely being RETIRED let alone still making big money.
You are seriously the worst. lol. You seriously think keeping and replacing every single player we have(Granderson) wont impact our payroll by a significant amount over the next 5 years ?? (Walker 4 year deal assume) WOW.
The day we actually argue about anything intelligent will be its first. Always over nitpicky BS. Our overall are views are mostly aligned which is the sad part.
Flores is now 2-24. Sort of sucks he is out of options because he may prove to be a guy who needs consistent ab's to play well. He may be valuable if Wright goes down but he's been downright awful so far. Perfect example of being careful with options.
Walker was intended as a stop gap. Buys time for the team to see if Herrera will be ready next year vs forcing him in this year. Same with the SS convertible prospects to 2B.
Best case scenario is Herrera forces the issue, and Walker makes it a tough decision due to a great year (increasing odds of a draft pick as comp). Worst case scenario is Walker struggles in NY and Herrera isn't ready.
This was a move 100% about 2016 team. But with an eye equally on 2017 plus. Literally the perfect move. It's a very repeatable move, if necessary. Next year they will make a similar decision, all about 2017 but with an eye on these following year. "Payroll and roster flexibility". It's here...
TBH we have a ton of options at second. Herrera, Flores, any of the SS prospects. And 2Bs are gettable in trade unlike the premium positions.
I'll take the same position I took with Cespedes. You dont HAVE to resign Walker. I'll be furious if we dont resign him just because there isnt money. But that is seeming like less and less of a concern. If they just think money is better deployed elsewhere, I say cool. We will not be without talented options at 2B that dont require potentially ruinous commitments.
D.J. Short @djshort 4m4 minutes ago
The Braves have a .579 OPS as a team so far this season. Cubs pitchers have a .591 OPS.
Yeah they are pathetic. Help is on the way though Albies and Swanson are raking in the minors. Albies is hitting .351/.412/.494 in AA despite being the youngest player in the league by more than a full year.
D.J. Short @djshort 4m4 minutes ago
The Braves have a .579 OPS as a team so far this season. Cubs pitchers have a .591 OPS.
Yeah they are pathetic. Help is on the way though Albies and Swanson are raking in the minors. Albies is hitting .351/.412/.494 in AA despite being the youngest player in the league by more than a full year.
People are comparing it to the Sixers but I disagree. Baseball allows you to load up on a bunch of "lottery tickets" at the same time and with no salary cap you can buy yourself players pretty easily. The Braves over the next 5 years scare me more than the Marlins or Nats to be honest with you (obviously for today the Nats are my biggest concern).
Walker was intended as a stop gap. Buys time for the team to see if Herrera will be ready next year vs forcing him in this year. Same with the SS convertible prospects to 2B.
Best case scenario is Herrera forces the issue, and Walker makes it a tough decision due to a great year (increasing odds of a draft pick as comp). Worst case scenario is Walker struggles in NY and Herrera isn't ready.
This was a move 100% about 2016 team. But with an eye equally on 2017 plus. Literally the perfect move. It's a very repeatable move, if necessary. Next year they will make a similar decision, all about 2017 but with an eye on these following year. "Payroll and roster flexibility". It's here...
So what about the scenario where Walker thrives and has a really good year here and Dilson doesn't quite progress as hoped?
TBH we have a ton of options at second. Herrera, Flores, any of the SS prospects. And 2Bs are gettable in trade unlike the premium positions.
I'll take the same position I took with Cespedes. You dont HAVE to resign Walker. I'll be furious if we dont resign him just because there isnt money. But that is seeming like less and less of a concern. If they just think money is better deployed elsewhere, I say cool. We will not be without talented options at 2B that dont require potentially ruinous commitments.
Walker was intended as a stop gap. Buys time for the team to see if Herrera will be ready next year vs forcing him in this year. Same with the SS convertible prospects to 2B.
Best case scenario is Herrera forces the issue, and Walker makes it a tough decision due to a great year (increasing odds of a draft pick as comp). Worst case scenario is Walker struggles in NY and Herrera isn't ready.
This was a move 100% about 2016 team. But with an eye equally on 2017 plus. Literally the perfect move. It's a very repeatable move, if necessary. Next year they will make a similar decision, all about 2017 but with an eye on these following year. "Payroll and roster flexibility". It's here...
So what about the scenario where Walker thrives and has a really good year here and Dilson doesn't quite progress as hoped?
What does Herrera have to do though to show he's ready is my beef. It will never be enough. He's already owned AA, then owned AAA (sore shoulder slow couple weeks this year notwithstanding) and it wasn't enough. He already held his own at the major league level and it wasn't enough. If he hits .500 in AAA with 99 HR is that enough?? People will still just say isn't "proven". Its the same thing every year.
D.J. Short @djshort 4m4 minutes ago
The Braves have a .579 OPS as a team so far this season. Cubs pitchers have a .591 OPS.
Yeah they are pathetic. Help is on the way though Albies and Swanson are raking in the minors. Albies is hitting .351/.412/.494 in AA despite being the youngest player in the league by more than a full year.
People are comparing it to the Sixers but I disagree. Baseball allows you to load up on a bunch of "lottery tickets" at the same time and with no salary cap you can buy yourself players pretty easily. The Braves over the next 5 years scare me more than the Marlins or Nats to be honest with you (obviously for today the Nats are my biggest concern).
You are right I think the Braves are going to be the class on the NFC East in 3-4 years. I know that prospects don't always work out but the Braves are loaded with so many pitching prospects that even if only 40% of them work out they are set. Also they have the #3 overall pick in this years draft, likely the #1 overall pick in next years draft and are rumored to have a deal with the top IFA in years in Kevin Maitan. What they lack is power bats but their future infield looks incredible.
Considering Herrera was still very young and could have used a little more time in AAA and it increases your chances of success in 2016 with a proven stop-gap and you hope Herrera forces the issue. I am operating on the assumption that Herrera will have a very solid year in Vegas so then what?
Best move would be to recoup the pick.
OR if Wright is truly retiring (not sure about that) consider him as a #B option.
You mean like how it looks today? Lol
Then the front office pats itself on the back for saving the 2016 with the Walker trade.
LOL, yes. I mean.. if things continue to go this way, how do they approach it down the road? Do they say "well, we have a known quality here and he helps keep our window open, let's make a push to extend him" ? ... do they look for another established player (I don't know who will be available or who they could acquire.. haven't looked at all) to be another stop gap or do they just put Herrera out there and hope for the best?
D.J. Short @djshort 4m4 minutes ago
The Braves have a .579 OPS as a team so far this season. Cubs pitchers have a .591 OPS.
Yeah they are pathetic. Help is on the way though Albies and Swanson are raking in the minors. Albies is hitting .351/.412/.494 in AA despite being the youngest player in the league by more than a full year.
People are comparing it to the Sixers but I disagree. Baseball allows you to load up on a bunch of "lottery tickets" at the same time and with no salary cap you can buy yourself players pretty easily. The Braves over the next 5 years scare me more than the Marlins or Nats to be honest with you (obviously for today the Nats are my biggest concern).
You are right I think the Braves are going to be the class on the NFC East in 3-4 years. I know that prospects don't always work out but the Braves are loaded with so many pitching prospects that even if only 40% of them work out they are set. Also they have the #3 overall pick in this years draft, likely the #1 overall pick in next years draft and are rumored to have a deal with the top IFA in years in Kevin Maitan. What they lack is power bats but their future infield looks incredible.
You are discounting what is going on in Philly....
RE: RE: RE: Repeating the obvious from the offseason
Walker was intended as a stop gap. Buys time for the team to see if Herrera will be ready next year vs forcing him in this year. Same with the SS convertible prospects to 2B.
Best case scenario is Herrera forces the issue, and Walker makes it a tough decision due to a great year (increasing odds of a draft pick as comp). Worst case scenario is Walker struggles in NY and Herrera isn't ready.
This was a move 100% about 2016 team. But with an eye equally on 2017 plus. Literally the perfect move. It's a very repeatable move, if necessary. Next year they will make a similar decision, all about 2017 but with an eye on these following year. "Payroll and roster flexibility". It's here...
So what about the scenario where Walker thrives and has a really good year here and Dilson doesn't quite progress as hoped?
What does Herrera have to do though to show he's ready is my beef. It will never be enough. He's already owned AA, then owned AAA (sore shoulder slow couple weeks this year notwithstanding) and it wasn't enough. He already held his own at the major league level and it wasn't enough. If he hits .500 in AAA with 99 HR is that enough?? People will still just say isn't "proven". Its the same thing every year.
I don't think that's true. If he posts a really solid year in Vegas and looks like there's nothing left for him to do there, that's fine. He's struggled a bit out of the gates though.. it's not like it's a forgone conclusion he's going to wind up having a great year. He could.. but who knows. What if he doesn't?
It's not the stats, but you just have to trust the front office with knowing when someone is ready or not. Past few years, who has been called up prematurely? Yet how many fan favorites haven't been called up? (Smoker, Alvarez, etc) to fill a hole.
If he's ready, you pray you get a pick for Walker. But the rest of the roster will certainly have much less question marks on it (Wrgiht, TDA, Legares, Duda).
You mean like how it looks today? Lol
Then the front office pats itself on the back for saving the 2016 with the Walker trade.
LOL, yes. I mean.. if things continue to go this way, how do they approach it down the road? Do they say "well, we have a known quality here and he helps keep our window open, let's make a push to extend him" ? ... do they look for another established player (I don't know who will be available or who they could acquire.. haven't looked at all) to be another stop gap or do they just put Herrera out there and hope for the best?
Missed this but part of my previous post would answer it. If Herrera is starting, they have a very good plan B in place (vet, positional flexibility, other ready prospect etc) they also will have less uncertainty on the roster if he is starting, softening the blow if he isn't ready and his success is less vital.
In a perfect world it works. And your future is brighter. More payroll, and adding another top prospect with a pick. Not hurting the current while pumping up the window.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Repeating the obvious from the offseason
Walker was intended as a stop gap. Buys time for the team to see if Herrera will be ready next year vs forcing him in this year. Same with the SS convertible prospects to 2B.
Best case scenario is Herrera forces the issue, and Walker makes it a tough decision due to a great year (increasing odds of a draft pick as comp). Worst case scenario is Walker struggles in NY and Herrera isn't ready.
This was a move 100% about 2016 team. But with an eye equally on 2017 plus. Literally the perfect move. It's a very repeatable move, if necessary. Next year they will make a similar decision, all about 2017 but with an eye on these following year. "Payroll and roster flexibility". It's here...
So what about the scenario where Walker thrives and has a really good year here and Dilson doesn't quite progress as hoped?
What does Herrera have to do though to show he's ready is my beef. It will never be enough. He's already owned AA, then owned AAA (sore shoulder slow couple weeks this year notwithstanding) and it wasn't enough. He already held his own at the major league level and it wasn't enough. If he hits .500 in AAA with 99 HR is that enough?? People will still just say isn't "proven". Its the same thing every year.
I don't think that's true. If he posts a really solid year in Vegas and looks like there's nothing left for him to do there, that's fine. He's struggled a bit out of the gates though.. it's not like it's a forgone conclusion he's going to wind up having a great year. He could.. but who knows. What if he doesn't?
Ok well that's a completely different argument. Herrera has owned every level for years now and put up video games numbers in the minors. I didn't know people were alarmed and upset over Herrera's cold first two weeks to the season. If they think that's what Herrera will do all year? Then I totally get needing or wanting to sign Walker. I just didn't even know that thought existed. I assume Herrera will go right back to mashing in Vegas any day now.
I hope we all assume he is as good as gone next year?
He's opting out. I know that. Today the Mets likely let him walk. I was envisioning a perfect world where things might change between now and then (like last year) and Cespedes has a huge year, plays CF better than expected possibly, carries the Mets to the postseason, he's wants to come back to the Mets(at a cost of course) and there might be another possible reunion. I know that likely isn't the view now but I could see things changing.
that's a game changer. All I've heard is that they are extremely high on him though.
Also I like Walker a lot. Really happy we have him. I just view it as every season will have its story. Last year it was Murphy. Hopefully this year Walker is a big part of this group. Next year who knows. Its all good though. The Mets have done nothing but make the correct decisions in regards to just about everything.
Anyone think that we would be in a position to trade Grandy
in the offseason, to make room for Ces as a RF (notwithstanding his thoughts about that position)? Grandy will be owed 15 million for his final season. Not a bad bet for a team that needs a hitter and doesnt want to delve into the ultra expensive UFA market.
RE: Anyone think that we would be in a position to trade Grandy
in the offseason, to make room for Ces as a RF (notwithstanding his thoughts about that position)? Grandy will be owed 15 million for his final season. Not a bad bet for a team that needs a hitter and doesnt want to delve into the ultra expensive UFA market.
I don't think it will be worth it. I doubt they would get fair value for a 36 year old OF. Also if Cespedes and Walker leave via free agency the Mets will need to hope that Granderson doesn't fall apart next season too which at his age is somewhat likely.
Wally has Nimmo, Cecchini, Herrera, Reynolds, TJ Rivera Montero, Goeddel, Gilmartin, Lugo. Sewald, Smoker, Ynoa etc... and an 8-10 last place club in LV
RE: RE: Anyone think that we would be in a position to trade Grandy
in the offseason, to make room for Ces as a RF (notwithstanding his thoughts about that position)? Grandy will be owed 15 million for his final season. Not a bad bet for a team that needs a hitter and doesnt want to delve into the ultra expensive UFA market.
I don't think it will be worth it. I doubt they would get fair value for a 36 year old OF. Also if Cespedes and Walker leave via free agency the Mets will need to hope that Granderson doesn't fall apart next season too which at his age is somewhat likely.
Well the point of a Grandy trade is to open a corner OF slot to resign Ces. You dont trade Grandy without Ces signing on. And I dont know that they'd sign both and risk sitting one or playing one in CF next year.
I just think assuming we actually could or would want
to sign Cespedes next year you just let Granderson's contract play out. If The Mets really want Cespedes I assume he played 2016 at a very high level and handled himself decently in CF. Just keep it the same for one more year and say farewell to Grandy at the end of his contract. Then in a year move Cespedes or Conforto to RF. Keep in mind Cespedes will be 32 then. Conforto might actually be the better option in RF. Who knows. Then I guess work on a CF upgrade.
It's official. Mets franchise has turned it around :)
Instead of the breaks going against them, they finally seem to be getting some. Acquiring Gomez and then him tanking is such a "Met thing to do" until now.
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What in the world does the value of the Mets rotation have to do with keeping Neil Walker? Matz and Syndergaard won't even be FA until post-Neil Walker even likely being RETIRED let alone still making big money.
You are seriously the worst. lol. You seriously think keeping and replacing every single player we have(Granderson) wont impact our payroll by a significant amount over the next 5 years ?? (Walker 4 year deal assume) WOW.
The Braves have a .579 OPS as a team so far this season. Cubs pitchers have a .591 OPS.
Best case scenario is Herrera forces the issue, and Walker makes it a tough decision due to a great year (increasing odds of a draft pick as comp). Worst case scenario is Walker struggles in NY and Herrera isn't ready.
This was a move 100% about 2016 team. But with an eye equally on 2017 plus. Literally the perfect move. It's a very repeatable move, if necessary. Next year they will make a similar decision, all about 2017 but with an eye on these following year. "Payroll and roster flexibility". It's here...
I'll take the same position I took with Cespedes. You dont HAVE to resign Walker. I'll be furious if we dont resign him just because there isnt money. But that is seeming like less and less of a concern. If they just think money is better deployed elsewhere, I say cool. We will not be without talented options at 2B that dont require potentially ruinous commitments.
The Braves have a .579 OPS as a team so far this season. Cubs pitchers have a .591 OPS.
Yeah they are pathetic. Help is on the way though Albies and Swanson are raking in the minors. Albies is hitting .351/.412/.494 in AA despite being the youngest player in the league by more than a full year.
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D.J. Short @djshort 4m4 minutes ago
The Braves have a .579 OPS as a team so far this season. Cubs pitchers have a .591 OPS.
Yeah they are pathetic. Help is on the way though Albies and Swanson are raking in the minors. Albies is hitting .351/.412/.494 in AA despite being the youngest player in the league by more than a full year.
People are comparing it to the Sixers but I disagree. Baseball allows you to load up on a bunch of "lottery tickets" at the same time and with no salary cap you can buy yourself players pretty easily. The Braves over the next 5 years scare me more than the Marlins or Nats to be honest with you (obviously for today the Nats are my biggest concern).
Best case scenario is Herrera forces the issue, and Walker makes it a tough decision due to a great year (increasing odds of a draft pick as comp). Worst case scenario is Walker struggles in NY and Herrera isn't ready.
This was a move 100% about 2016 team. But with an eye equally on 2017 plus. Literally the perfect move. It's a very repeatable move, if necessary. Next year they will make a similar decision, all about 2017 but with an eye on these following year. "Payroll and roster flexibility". It's here...
So what about the scenario where Walker thrives and has a really good year here and Dilson doesn't quite progress as hoped?
I'll take the same position I took with Cespedes. You dont HAVE to resign Walker. I'll be furious if we dont resign him just because there isnt money. But that is seeming like less and less of a concern. If they just think money is better deployed elsewhere, I say cool. We will not be without talented options at 2B that dont require potentially ruinous commitments.
Couldn't have said it better.
Then the front office pats itself on the back for saving the 2016 with the Walker trade.
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Walker was intended as a stop gap. Buys time for the team to see if Herrera will be ready next year vs forcing him in this year. Same with the SS convertible prospects to 2B.
Best case scenario is Herrera forces the issue, and Walker makes it a tough decision due to a great year (increasing odds of a draft pick as comp). Worst case scenario is Walker struggles in NY and Herrera isn't ready.
This was a move 100% about 2016 team. But with an eye equally on 2017 plus. Literally the perfect move. It's a very repeatable move, if necessary. Next year they will make a similar decision, all about 2017 but with an eye on these following year. "Payroll and roster flexibility". It's here...
So what about the scenario where Walker thrives and has a really good year here and Dilson doesn't quite progress as hoped?
What does Herrera have to do though to show he's ready is my beef. It will never be enough. He's already owned AA, then owned AAA (sore shoulder slow couple weeks this year notwithstanding) and it wasn't enough. He already held his own at the major league level and it wasn't enough. If he hits .500 in AAA with 99 HR is that enough?? People will still just say isn't "proven". Its the same thing every year.
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D.J. Short @djshort 4m4 minutes ago
The Braves have a .579 OPS as a team so far this season. Cubs pitchers have a .591 OPS.
Yeah they are pathetic. Help is on the way though Albies and Swanson are raking in the minors. Albies is hitting .351/.412/.494 in AA despite being the youngest player in the league by more than a full year.
People are comparing it to the Sixers but I disagree. Baseball allows you to load up on a bunch of "lottery tickets" at the same time and with no salary cap you can buy yourself players pretty easily. The Braves over the next 5 years scare me more than the Marlins or Nats to be honest with you (obviously for today the Nats are my biggest concern).
You are right I think the Braves are going to be the class on the NFC East in 3-4 years. I know that prospects don't always work out but the Braves are loaded with so many pitching prospects that even if only 40% of them work out they are set. Also they have the #3 overall pick in this years draft, likely the #1 overall pick in next years draft and are rumored to have a deal with the top IFA in years in Kevin Maitan. What they lack is power bats but their future infield looks incredible.
Best move would be to recoup the pick.
OR if Wright is truly retiring (not sure about that) consider him as a #B option.
Then the front office pats itself on the back for saving the 2016 with the Walker trade.
LOL, yes. I mean.. if things continue to go this way, how do they approach it down the road? Do they say "well, we have a known quality here and he helps keep our window open, let's make a push to extend him" ? ... do they look for another established player (I don't know who will be available or who they could acquire.. haven't looked at all) to be another stop gap or do they just put Herrera out there and hope for the best?
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In comment 12927149 DanMetroMan said:
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D.J. Short @djshort 4m4 minutes ago
The Braves have a .579 OPS as a team so far this season. Cubs pitchers have a .591 OPS.
Yeah they are pathetic. Help is on the way though Albies and Swanson are raking in the minors. Albies is hitting .351/.412/.494 in AA despite being the youngest player in the league by more than a full year.
People are comparing it to the Sixers but I disagree. Baseball allows you to load up on a bunch of "lottery tickets" at the same time and with no salary cap you can buy yourself players pretty easily. The Braves over the next 5 years scare me more than the Marlins or Nats to be honest with you (obviously for today the Nats are my biggest concern).
You are right I think the Braves are going to be the class on the NFC East in 3-4 years. I know that prospects don't always work out but the Braves are loaded with so many pitching prospects that even if only 40% of them work out they are set. Also they have the #3 overall pick in this years draft, likely the #1 overall pick in next years draft and are rumored to have a deal with the top IFA in years in Kevin Maitan. What they lack is power bats but their future infield looks incredible.
You are discounting what is going on in Philly....
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Walker was intended as a stop gap. Buys time for the team to see if Herrera will be ready next year vs forcing him in this year. Same with the SS convertible prospects to 2B.
Best case scenario is Herrera forces the issue, and Walker makes it a tough decision due to a great year (increasing odds of a draft pick as comp). Worst case scenario is Walker struggles in NY and Herrera isn't ready.
This was a move 100% about 2016 team. But with an eye equally on 2017 plus. Literally the perfect move. It's a very repeatable move, if necessary. Next year they will make a similar decision, all about 2017 but with an eye on these following year. "Payroll and roster flexibility". It's here...
So what about the scenario where Walker thrives and has a really good year here and Dilson doesn't quite progress as hoped?
What does Herrera have to do though to show he's ready is my beef. It will never be enough. He's already owned AA, then owned AAA (sore shoulder slow couple weeks this year notwithstanding) and it wasn't enough. He already held his own at the major league level and it wasn't enough. If he hits .500 in AAA with 99 HR is that enough?? People will still just say isn't "proven". Its the same thing every year.
I don't think that's true. If he posts a really solid year in Vegas and looks like there's nothing left for him to do there, that's fine. He's struggled a bit out of the gates though.. it's not like it's a forgone conclusion he's going to wind up having a great year. He could.. but who knows. What if he doesn't?
If he's ready, you pray you get a pick for Walker. But the rest of the roster will certainly have much less question marks on it (Wrgiht, TDA, Legares, Duda).
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You mean like how it looks today? Lol
Then the front office pats itself on the back for saving the 2016 with the Walker trade.
LOL, yes. I mean.. if things continue to go this way, how do they approach it down the road? Do they say "well, we have a known quality here and he helps keep our window open, let's make a push to extend him" ? ... do they look for another established player (I don't know who will be available or who they could acquire.. haven't looked at all) to be another stop gap or do they just put Herrera out there and hope for the best?
Missed this but part of my previous post would answer it. If Herrera is starting, they have a very good plan B in place (vet, positional flexibility, other ready prospect etc) they also will have less uncertainty on the roster if he is starting, softening the blow if he isn't ready and his success is less vital.
In a perfect world it works. And your future is brighter. More payroll, and adding another top prospect with a pick. Not hurting the current while pumping up the window.
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In comment 12927151 Shecky said:
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Walker was intended as a stop gap. Buys time for the team to see if Herrera will be ready next year vs forcing him in this year. Same with the SS convertible prospects to 2B.
Best case scenario is Herrera forces the issue, and Walker makes it a tough decision due to a great year (increasing odds of a draft pick as comp). Worst case scenario is Walker struggles in NY and Herrera isn't ready.
This was a move 100% about 2016 team. But with an eye equally on 2017 plus. Literally the perfect move. It's a very repeatable move, if necessary. Next year they will make a similar decision, all about 2017 but with an eye on these following year. "Payroll and roster flexibility". It's here...
So what about the scenario where Walker thrives and has a really good year here and Dilson doesn't quite progress as hoped?
What does Herrera have to do though to show he's ready is my beef. It will never be enough. He's already owned AA, then owned AAA (sore shoulder slow couple weeks this year notwithstanding) and it wasn't enough. He already held his own at the major league level and it wasn't enough. If he hits .500 in AAA with 99 HR is that enough?? People will still just say isn't "proven". Its the same thing every year.
I don't think that's true. If he posts a really solid year in Vegas and looks like there's nothing left for him to do there, that's fine. He's struggled a bit out of the gates though.. it's not like it's a forgone conclusion he's going to wind up having a great year. He could.. but who knows. What if he doesn't?
Ok well that's a completely different argument. Herrera has owned every level for years now and put up video games numbers in the minors. I didn't know people were alarmed and upset over Herrera's cold first two weeks to the season. If they think that's what Herrera will do all year? Then I totally get needing or wanting to sign Walker. I just didn't even know that thought existed. I assume Herrera will go right back to mashing in Vegas any day now.
He's opting out. I know that. Today the Mets likely let him walk. I was envisioning a perfect world where things might change between now and then (like last year) and Cespedes has a huge year, plays CF better than expected possibly, carries the Mets to the postseason, he's wants to come back to the Mets(at a cost of course) and there might be another possible reunion. I know that likely isn't the view now but I could see things changing.
I would just hope that we'd be willing to take another route if there was doubt within the org. that he was the answer going forward.
Also I like Walker a lot. Really happy we have him. I just view it as every season will have its story. Last year it was Murphy. Hopefully this year Walker is a big part of this group. Next year who knows. Its all good though. The Mets have done nothing but make the correct decisions in regards to just about everything.
I don't think it will be worth it. I doubt they would get fair value for a 36 year old OF. Also if Cespedes and Walker leave via free agency the Mets will need to hope that Granderson doesn't fall apart next season too which at his age is somewhat likely.
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in the offseason, to make room for Ces as a RF (notwithstanding his thoughts about that position)? Grandy will be owed 15 million for his final season. Not a bad bet for a team that needs a hitter and doesnt want to delve into the ultra expensive UFA market.
I don't think it will be worth it. I doubt they would get fair value for a 36 year old OF. Also if Cespedes and Walker leave via free agency the Mets will need to hope that Granderson doesn't fall apart next season too which at his age is somewhat likely.
Well the point of a Grandy trade is to open a corner OF slot to resign Ces. You dont trade Grandy without Ces signing on. And I dont know that they'd sign both and risk sitting one or playing one in CF next year.
Hansel: 13.50 K/9, 1.80 ERA
Bastardo: 14.46 K/9, 2.89 ERA
Reed: 11.25 K/9, 2.25 ERA
Hendo: 14.09 K/9, 1.17 ERA
Brian P. Mangan @brianpmangan
Highest FIP is Bastardo at 2.25, lowest FIP is Robles at 1.01 (!!)
The lowest swinging strike rate is 14.1% (league average RP is 13.0%).
Hansel: 13.50 K/9, 1.80 ERA
Bastardo: 14.46 K/9, 2.89 ERA
Reed: 11.25 K/9, 2.25 ERA
Hendo: 14.09 K/9, 1.17 ERA
Brian P. Mangan @brianpmangan
Highest FIP is Bastardo at 2.25, lowest FIP is Robles at 1.01 (!!)
The lowest swinging strike rate is 14.1% (league average RP is 13.0%).
Unless I'm missing something, Familia actually has the highest FIP (2.57)
Hansel: 13.50 K/9, 1.80 ERA
Bastardo: 14.46 K/9, 2.89 ERA
Reed: 11.25 K/9, 2.25 ERA
Hendo: 14.09 K/9, 1.17 ERA
Brian P. Mangan @brianpmangan
Highest FIP is Bastardo at 2.25, lowest FIP is Robles at 1.01 (!!)
The lowest swinging strike rate is 14.1% (league average RP is 13.0%).
Been saying it for weeks. Those peripherals are through the roof. Outstanding.
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Yoenis Cespedes since being traded to the Mets last July: .290/.345/.621 with 23 home runs and 61 RBI over 316 PA's
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PREACH!!!
Also the Yanks are in trouble and the brave are bound to get better.
Awful. So glad we didn't trade for that loser.
Seriously, other than Dickey I can't recall a guy at this age turning into such an animal.
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I'd actually love to see Dickey in our bullpen. I feel like he'd be absolutely nuts coming in after Thor + a nice bow at the end of the Thor/TDA deal.
Awful. So glad we didn't trade for that loser.
It's official. Mets franchise has turned it around :)
Instead of the breaks going against them, they finally seem to be getting some. Acquiring Gomez and then him tanking is such a "Met thing to do" until now.
Seriously, other than Dickey I can't recall a guy at this age turning into such an animal.
My favorite ODOAT (old dude on another team) is Ross Ohlendorf. His Satchel Paige windup is the greatest thing I've seen in ever.
even in the loss column now.