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NFT: Schilling: ESPN employs hardcore racists

DanMetroMan : 4/28/2016 10:02 am
“Some of the most racist things that I’ve ever heard come out of people that are on the air at ESPN. There are some of the biggest racists in sports commentating, and you take it for what it is. You know who they are, you know what they are. I like that they are openly because then you know who they are. You know that they exist.”

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geez  
UConn4523 : 4/28/2016 10:03 am : link
this guy is really an awesome role model for his children. Does anything humble this loser?
Fine example of someone taking responsibility for themselves...  
Gmaniac1 : 4/28/2016 10:06 am : link
... "Look at them! They do it, too. Even worse than me!"
And guess what  
arniefez : 4/28/2016 10:09 am : link
If they post those opinions on a public forum or social media they'll get fired too.

LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/28/2016 10:12 am : link
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You know who they are, you know what they are. I like that they are openly because then you know who they are. You know that they exist.”


That sounds like an interview with one of Schilling's co-hosts!
Can this guy  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 10:18 am : link
just disappear already? Jeez.
Id just like to point out  
Justlurking : 4/28/2016 10:29 am : link
that Yankee fans have always been right about what a piece of shit this guy is.
The guy is a disgusting slob  
MadPlaid : 4/28/2016 10:30 am : link
Can't even take responsibility for being an obnoxious asshole.
Somebody please...  
Jim in Tampa : 4/28/2016 10:32 am : link
Stick a (fake) bloody sock in his mouth and tell him to STFU!
More from the interview on ESPN left wing bias  
giant24 : 4/28/2016 10:41 am : link
“It was apparent to me early on that if you wanted to go off topic as a sportsperson, you had to go off topic LEFT or you were going to get into trouble,” Schilling said."

"But I had people come up to me and go [whispering] ‘Hey, I’m with ya. I’m a Republican, too.’ It was like a deadly serious thing, like, we didn’t talk… like religion on the table was a much easier discussion than who you voted for.”

So it is the Left's fault  
MadPlaid : 4/28/2016 10:45 am : link
that Schilling is an inconsiderate insensitive filterless pinhead? Incredible
RE: So it is the Left's fault  
njm : 4/28/2016 10:48 am : link
In comment 12926945 MadPlaid said:
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that Schilling is an inconsiderate insensitive filterless pinhead? Incredible


Well, he can be all of that and still make a valid point.
Most of the time though from my experience (which I admit with ESPN  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 10:52 am : link
my experience is limited) but from what I know when people went off-topic to the left it was in the context of sports.

racism in sports (Stephen A Smith practically makes a living on this topic).

Schilling off-topic was waaaayy off anything remotely relevant to sports.

...  
rut17 : 4/28/2016 10:52 am : link
This asshole has been whining for the last 2 years that the only reason he's not in Cooperstown is because he's a Republican. I hope he never gets in.
Go away Curt  
NYerInMA : 4/28/2016 10:53 am : link
Far, far away.
RE: ...  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 10:55 am : link
In comment 12926975 rut17 said:
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This asshole has been whining for the last 2 years that the only reason he's not in Cooperstown is because he's a Republican. I hope he never gets in.


He should be in the hall-of-fame. I don't care what his political views are or if he's racist or just an asshole, he is a hall-of fame baseball player.

I do doubt he gets in though because the BBWAA is awful, even without the added ammo from Curt.
He'd say..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/28/2016 10:57 am : link
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Somebody please...
Jim in Tampa : 10:32 am : link : reply
Stick a (fake) bloody sock in his mouth and tell him to STFU!


Yummmm. Taste's like ketchup!
what most do not understand  
mdc1 : 4/28/2016 11:03 am : link
is that the world is full of racism coming from every angle and every ethnicity. What most see become inundated with is "framing" to only focus on one aspect and one group or individual and used as an agenda by someone or some group.

Schilling is an example of this. I am not saying what he is doing is not stupid and hateful, but he is targeted and he probably right that a connected few hide their worldviews and bullshit behind a cloak of hypocrisy.
1 Schilling isn't half as  
RetroJint : 4/28/2016 11:03 am : link
smart as he thinks he is. 2. ESPN is incorrigibly Lefty, a Daily Show that bends sports into politics. 3. Ketchup Stain happens to be correct on public rest room sensibilities: if you have a dick, you are a man. That is the acience speaking. The science informs all of our decisions, after all.
Kornheiser said this  
giant24 : 4/28/2016 11:12 am : link
"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.

RE: Kornheiser said this  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 11:18 am : link
In comment 12927050 giant24 said:
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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.

giant I think the difference is, Curt Schilling is a known bigot and racist, it was just the final straw. ESPN was looking for a reason to fire him and they got one. He should have been gone long ago. Kornheiser, by all acounts, not a racist.
RE: Kornheiser said this  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 11:19 am : link
In comment 12927050 giant24 said:
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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.
WHat Kornheiser did was wrong and he should have also been fired, but that doesn't remove responsibility from Schilling or protect him from being canned himself. You're a public figure and you're also sort of representing your employer even in off hours. Especially wrt social media. You have to be more cognizant and more generally responsible. It's tragic that your employer controls your behavior when you're not representing them or on their clock, but that is simply the way it is and Schilling should not only know that but be respectful of it.
RE: RE: Kornheiser said this  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 11:22 am : link
In comment 12927075 ryanmkeane said:
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In comment 12927050 giant24 said:


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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.



giant I think the difference is, Curt Schilling is a known bigot and racist, it was just the final straw. ESPN was looking for a reason to fire him and they got one. He should have been gone long ago. Kornheiser, by all acounts, not a racist.


Not sure how Schilling is a known racist. A lot of adjectives might be fair, but what did he do that was racist? His tweet comparing Muslim extremists to nazis? does that count as racist? Saying Hillary Clinton should be buried under the jail? or saying people with a penis need to use men's rooms.

is there something I am not aware of?
RE: RE: Kornheiser said this  
giant24 : 4/28/2016 11:25 am : link
In comment 12927075 ryanmkeane said:
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In comment 12927050 giant24 said:


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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.



giant I think the difference is, Curt Schilling is a known bigot and racist, it was just the final straw. ESPN was looking for a reason to fire him and they got one. He should have been gone long ago. Kornheiser, by all acounts, not a racist.


How exactly is Schilling a known racist/bigot?? Because he thinks Islamic terrorists are evil and men dressed as woman who have penises shouldn't be in a locker room or bathroom with young girls??
RE: RE: RE: Kornheiser said this  
giantsblue1 : 4/28/2016 11:25 am : link
In comment 12927094 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 12927050 giant24 said:


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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.



giant I think the difference is, Curt Schilling is a known bigot and racist, it was just the final straw. ESPN was looking for a reason to fire him and they got one. He should have been gone long ago. Kornheiser, by all acounts, not a racist.



Not sure how Schilling is a known racist. A lot of adjectives might be fair, but what did he do that was racist? His tweet comparing Muslim extremists to nazis? does that count as racist? Saying Hillary Clinton should be buried under the jail? or saying people with a penis need to use men's rooms.

is there something I am not aware of?


I think it fit a better narrative when people reported the Nazis comment to leave out the extremist part.
RE: RE: Kornheiser said this  
njm : 4/28/2016 11:26 am : link
In comment 12927075 ryanmkeane said:
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In comment 12927050 giant24 said:


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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.



giant I think the difference is, Curt Schilling is a known bigot and racist, it was just the final straw. ESPN was looking for a reason to fire him and they got one. He should have been gone long ago. Kornheiser, by all acounts, not a racist.


Schilling got fired. Koenheiser didn't even get reprimanded or suspended.
giant24  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 11:27 am : link
Showing his intelligence :)
if nothing else, Schilling is an idiot  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/28/2016 11:34 am : link
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“It was apparent to me early on that if you wanted to go off topic as a sportsperson, you had to go off topic LEFT or you were going to get into trouble,” Schilling said."


If that's the case, then Schilling knew precisely not to spout off his bigoted, fear-mongering views on his public platform. He doesn't have a right to work for ESPN.
giant  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 11:34 am : link
i think you need to step away from the keyboard...slowly...
Schilling saying  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 11:37 am : link
his colleagues are some of the biggest racists ever is just backwards lunacy talk. Happens all the time. It's the equivalent of white people calling a black person a racist for using the word "cracker." The only difference is, white people weren't slaves for hundreds of years.

Schilling is a racist hack. Anybody else who thinks differently, I don't know what to tell toy.
Alright  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 11:41 am : link
I'll submit that racist might be too harsh a word. If you're more comfortable with "asshole bigot" - I'll use that.
RE: Schilling saying  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 11:42 am : link
In comment 12927155 ryanmkeane said:
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his colleagues are some of the biggest racists ever is just backwards lunacy talk. Happens all the time. It's the equivalent of white people calling a black person a racist for using the word "cracker." The only difference is, white people weren't slaves for hundreds of years.

Schilling is a racist hack. Anybody else who thinks differently, I don't know what to tell toy.


Again, what did Schilling do or say that is racist? I'm not saying he is or isn't, but I am asking what evidence you have? I have not seen any evidence of racism from him and it's 100% possible since I don't follow every single tweet or comment he makes that I just don't know about it.

Or is it just another...he's a Republican, he's racist comment, which make you look like a bigger idiot than Schilling, which is kind of hard to do.

Congratulations.
So its  
giantsblue1 : 4/28/2016 11:42 am : link
Cool to hold stuff against a person for stuff they never did or agree with based on white people doing it a long time ago?
RE: Schilling saying  
njm : 4/28/2016 11:44 am : link
In comment 12927155 ryanmkeane said:
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It's the equivalent of white people calling a black person a racist for using the word "cracker." The only difference is, white people weren't slaves for hundreds of years.



Neither was anyone who is currently calling someone "cracker". Or do you believe in original sin.? BTW, what about references to "Hymetown"?
RE: So it is the Left's fault  
The 12th Man : 4/28/2016 11:44 am : link
In comment 12926945 MadPlaid said:
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that Schilling is an inconsiderate insensitive filterless pinhead? Incredible



Here is what I do not understand. Who cares who uses what bathroom. Men's room and women's room both have stalls with doors on them go in close the door take care of your business, sit, stand who really cares. The only time I ever saw a woman stand and urinate I was in McSorley's in NYC. The line was ridiculous for the ladies room and she was standing right next to me hitting the urinal better than me. I am tired of all this BS over bathroom's.
Guys,  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 11:48 am : link
stop. Honestly. Defending Schilling is a fruitless exercise.
RE: Guys,  
njm : 4/28/2016 11:50 am : link
In comment 12927199 ryanmkeane said:
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stop. Honestly. Defending Schilling is a fruitless exercise.


Nobody's defending what Schilling did. But that doesn't mean he can't make a valid point.
RE: So its  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 11:51 am : link
In comment 12927177 giantsblue1 said:
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Cool to hold stuff against a person for stuff they never did or agree with based on white people doing it a long time ago?

No, it's not cool, it's just simple human decency. I, for one, have sympathy for black people, because they a) were enslaved for hundreds of years and b) are still looked down upon by millions of white people in this country. Racism is alive and well folks, don't act like it isn't or it went away somehow.
RE: More from the interview on ESPN left wing bias  
Sonic Youth : 4/28/2016 11:52 am : link
In comment 12926933 giant24 said:
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“It was apparent to me early on that if you wanted to go off topic as a sportsperson, you had to go off topic LEFT or you were going to get into trouble,” Schilling said."

"But I had people come up to me and go [whispering] ‘Hey, I’m with ya. I’m a Republican, too.’ It was like a deadly serious thing, like, we didn’t talk… like religion on the table was a much easier discussion than who you voted for.”

predictable post from giants24.
RE: RE: So its  
njm : 4/28/2016 11:53 am : link
In comment 12927211 ryanmkeane said:
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Cool to hold stuff against a person for stuff they never did or agree with based on white people doing it a long time ago?


No, it's not cool, it's just simple human decency. I, for one, have sympathy for black people, because they a) were enslaved for hundreds of years and b) are still looked down upon by millions of white people in this country. Racism is alive and well folks, don't act like it isn't or it went away somehow.


Isn't it also simple human decency NOT to refer to someone who has done nothing to you as "cracker"?
Nobody is turning  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 11:53 am : link
this into a democrat vs republican thing. If you're a bigot, you're a bigot. End of story. Bigots will routinely try and make it a left vs right - that is their MO.
RE: RE: RE: So its  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 11:55 am : link
In comment 12927218 njm said:
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Isn't it also simple human decency NOT to refer to someone who has done nothing to you as "cracker"?

OK, sure. But again, if someone calls me a cracker, I don't really care. There's been no discrimination against white people, ever, in human history. If someone calls a black person the n word, they are a racist, and pretty much a terrible person.
If we are going to have standards and rules:  
GiantsUA : 4/28/2016 11:56 am : link
I believe everyone should abide by said rules, no one get's a pass because of skin color or the fact that ancestors were mistreated.

That being said, CS should have been horse whipped in public for supporting W.
Huh??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/28/2016 11:57 am : link
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here's been no discrimination against white people, ever, in human history


Tell that to the black Jews? The Hispanic Serbs or Croats?

Every race has been discriminated against. Often.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So its  
njm : 4/28/2016 11:58 am : link
In comment 12927226 ryanmkeane said:
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There's been no discrimination against white people, ever, in human history.


Surely you jest.

Racism is absolutely  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 11:58 am : link
alive, doesn't mean Schilling is a racist.

In today's society, being labeled a racist is like 4th or 5th on the hierarchy of the career death knell:

1. Child Molester
2. Rapist/Murderer
3. Kidnapper
4. Wife beater
4a. Racist

It's irresponsible and honestly disgusting to toss the accusation around so cavalierly.

It's like we're back in 1690's Salem, MA.

Being an asshole or ignorant (if that's what you think Schilling is) doesn't make him a racist.

This has less to do with Curt Schilling than it does the people who use their own prejudices to judge people.
The Lions in Rome were well fed.  
GiantsUA : 4/28/2016 11:59 am : link
CHRISTIANS!
RE: RE: So it is the Left's fault  
steve in ky : 4/28/2016 12:00 pm : link
In comment 12927186 The 12th Man said:
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that Schilling is an inconsiderate insensitive filterless pinhead? Incredible




Here is what I do not understand. Who cares who uses what bathroom. Men's room and women's room both have stalls with doors on them go in close the door take care of your business, sit, stand who really cares. The only time I ever saw a woman stand and urinate I was in McSorley's in NYC. The line was ridiculous for the ladies room and she was standing right next to me hitting the urinal better than me. I am tired of all this BS over bathroom's.


One could also ask why does it matter so much to the man who identifys himself as a woman to have to use the women facilities? If we are to assume that he is mature enough, and in touch with himself enough to understand those feelings enough to act on them, then wouldn't he be mature enough to also understand that there is likley plenty of children, young girls and even women who wouldn't as easily identify with a strange man as being a women and be uncomfortable changing with him in a locker room or using the same bathroom?

If he identifys himself as a women good for him but I'm sure it took him many years working through it to come to the point to where he is now in acting on that and I don't see why he can't simply be the bigger person and be gracious enough to simply change in a mans locker room. If I was in a locker room and saw some guy in drag changing I couldn't care less, but I think it would upsetting to my nine year old daughter if she was faced with it.
I think people  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 12:00 pm : link
need to just be honest with themselves, that's all. If you don't think Schilling is a racist, based on all his comments he's made, and his views, then...you're kidding yourself. That's my opinion, anyway. Doesn't mean you can't have yours.
RE: If we are going to have standards and rules:  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 12:01 pm : link
In comment 12927236 GiantsUA said:
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I believe everyone should abide by said rules, no one get's a pass because of skin color or the fact that ancestors were mistreated.

That being said, CS should have been horse whipped in public for supporting W.
I understand it's mot mean to be literal, but to me the last part id equally or even more offensive than anything potentially racist that someone could say. It's a free will, free thought, free...dom kind of thing. You should be allowed to have an individual view, philosophical or ideological that differs from others and IMO there's no greater or lesser validity or worth to it.
I am staying  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 12:02 pm : link
away from the dem vs repub stuff. Schilling is a bigot, in every way shape and form - and any defense of him is pathetic. That's my only point.
RE: Racism is absolutely  
njm : 4/28/2016 12:03 pm : link
In comment 12927246 pjcas18 said:
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It's like we're back in 1690's Salem, MA.



Or the hearing room of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee of Investigations in the early 50's.
RE: I think people  
giant24 : 4/28/2016 12:03 pm : link
In comment 12927257 ryanmkeane said:
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need to just be honest with themselves, that's all. If you don't think Schilling is a racist, based on all his comments he's made, and his views, then...you're kidding yourself. That's my opinion, anyway. Doesn't mean you can't have yours.


What has he said that makes him a racist? Be specific and use his quotes.
RE: I think people  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 12:03 pm : link
In comment 12927257 ryanmkeane said:
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need to just be honest with themselves, that's all. If you don't think Schilling is a racist, based on all his comments he's made, and his views, then...you're kidding yourself. That's my opinion, anyway. Doesn't mean you can't have yours.
That's not even internally consistent.
RE: I think people  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 12:07 pm : link
In comment 12927257 ryanmkeane said:
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need to just be honest with themselves, that's all. If you don't think Schilling is a racist, based on all his comments he's made, and his views, then...you're kidding yourself. That's my opinion, anyway. Doesn't mean you can't have yours.


So you are using your un-proven prejudices based on limited information you have of someone to draw conclusions and intolerance about them, which is in essence the definition of bigotry.

as long you you're cool to wear that scarlet letter too, feel to toss it around yourself.

Schilling let's see  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 12:07 pm : link
here - the Muslims comments. Him constantly retweeting confederate flag and old south racist jargon. What else do you need?
Alright  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 12:08 pm : link
so everyone is saying here that they don't think Schilling is a racist? Just trying to take a quick poll..if you had to guess...
Just days ago  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 12:13 pm : link
he retweeted a photoshopped pic of Beyonce dressed as a police officer arresting a black guy bent over on a car with the caption "Hey Beyonce, this is what a real hero looks like." So...again. I don't have to look that far to find stuff like this. It's constant.
RE: Kornheiser said this  
steve in ky : 4/28/2016 12:14 pm : link
In comment 12927050 giant24 said:
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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.


If Shilling chooses to post a childish picture that his employer believes could offend people and therefore reflect poorly on their brand they have every right to fire him.

They obviously don't feel Kornheirser crossed that line.

RE: Just days ago  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 12:14 pm : link
In comment 12927313 ryanmkeane said:
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he retweeted a photoshopped pic of Beyonce dressed as a police officer arresting a black guy bent over on a car with the caption "Hey Beyonce, this is what a real hero looks like." So...again. I don't have to look that far to find stuff like this. It's constant.
policemen aren't heroes?
RE: Just days ago  
madgiantscow009 : 4/28/2016 12:14 pm : link
In comment 12927313 ryanmkeane said:
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he retweeted a photoshopped pic of Beyonce dressed as a police officer arresting a black guy bent over on a car with the caption "Hey Beyonce, this is what a real hero looks like." So...again. I don't have to look that far to find stuff like this. It's constant.


was she arresting a criminal?
RE: RE: Kornheiser said this  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 12:16 pm : link
In comment 12927316 steve in ky said:
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In comment 12927050 giant24 said:


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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.




If Shilling chooses to post a childish picture that his employer believes could offend people and therefore reflect poorly on their brand they have every right to fire him.

They obviously don't feel Kornheirser crossed that line.
Absolutely. I mean, I think Kornheiser crossed the line, but lines do have a certain element of fluidity to them, even for ESPN. But come on, this is ESPN we're talking about; it's not like you can apply common human standards here. The salient point is that it is their absolute right.
Whether he's a racist or not  
arniefez : 4/28/2016 12:19 pm : link
isn't the point. He wasn't fired for being a racist. He was fired for public statements that his public company thought were bad for their business. The rest of what Schilling is about is open for personal opinion. The business part is not.

His former employer thought he was hurting their bottom line by making statements that would offend large parts of their audience and reflect back on them. So they terminated him well within their rights.
RE: Whether he's a racist or not  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 12:20 pm : link
In comment 12927338 arniefez said:
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isn't the point. He wasn't fired for being a racist. He was fired for public statements that his public company thought were bad for their business. The rest of what Schilling is about is open for personal opinion. The business part is not.

His former employer thought he was hurting their bottom line by making statements that would offend large parts of their audience and reflect back on them. So they terminated him well within their rights.
precisely.
RE: RE: RE: Kornheiser said this  
steve in ky : 4/28/2016 12:22 pm : link
In comment 12927327 Bill L said:
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In comment 12927050 giant24 said:


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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.




If Shilling chooses to post a childish picture that his employer believes could offend people and therefore reflect poorly on their brand they have every right to fire him.

They obviously don't feel Kornheirser crossed that line.


Absolutely. I mean, I think Kornheiser crossed the line, but lines do have a certain element of fluidity to them, even for ESPN. But come on, this is ESPN we're talking about; it's not like you can apply common human standards here. The salient point is that it is their absolute right.


Bill, and you may be absolutely correct in that Kornheiser did as well. The thing is even if one assumes that they have chosen poorly they have the right to make all kinds of poor decisions themselves on behalf of their business. Maybe they shouldn't have fired Shilling, maybe they should have fired both of them, who really cares? They are the ones that must live with their decisions, just as Shilling now has to with his.
A couple of things about CS  
Rob in CT/NYC : 4/28/2016 12:22 pm : link
That aren't in dispute:

1. Has had issues with Latino players as a result of mimicing an accent "baseball been berry, berry good to me".

2. He collects Nazi memorabilia - not a crime, of course.

3. Has had issues with Muslims (comparisons to Nazis, suggesting land mines as prayer mats);

4. Has supported the confederate flag on social media;

5. Every Yankee fan was 100 percent right about this assbag;

I suppose we don't know for certain what is in his heart, but bigoted, insensitive and intolerant seem reasonable starting points.
I hope you didn't think that I wasn't agreeing with you  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 12:23 pm : link
I completely do.
(Steve)  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 12:23 pm : link
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RE: A couple of things about CS  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 12:24 pm : link
In comment 12927353 Rob in CT/NYC said:
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That aren't in dispute:

1. Has had issues with Latino players as a result of mimicing an accent "baseball been berry, berry good to me".

2. He collects Nazi memorabilia - not a crime, of course.

3. Has had issues with Muslims (comparisons to Nazis, suggesting land mines as prayer mats);

4. Has supported the confederate flag on social media;

5. Every Yankee fan was 100 percent right about this assbag;

I suppose we don't know for certain what is in his heart, but bigoted, insensitive and intolerant seem reasonable starting points.

Exactly. But hey don't call him a racist ...

Gimme a break guys.
RE: I hope you didn't think that I wasn't agreeing with you  
steve in ky : 4/28/2016 12:28 pm : link
In comment 12927357 Bill L said:
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I completely do.


No I got that, I guess I was just expounding on it all because I just doesn't understand why so many people seem to miss the heart of the whole thing.

It's a business decision right or wrong agree with or not. Everything else becomes noise.

Curt also has these posts  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 12:32 pm : link
on his facebook page that he has shared and if you can see into a man's heart and know what he feels enough to cast judgment based on shared facebook posts, good for you. I do not possess that power nor want to that high of a horse. I have no love for Curt Schilling. In fact I hated the bloody sock incident and I hate the Red Sox. and I think his behavior was self destructive (intentionally perhaps), but I also don't like labeling and stereotyping and truly believe the cliche, hate breeds hate and it's coming from all angles these days in the USA, especially and more so in many cases the ones pointing the fingers.




The very fact that  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 12:35 pm : link
he's retweeting that picture of the black guys makes it very evident. Why not post a picture of 3 white guys?
pjcas  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 12:37 pm : link
I understand your point but I'm not the one spewing the hate constantly - it's him. He's the bigot, not me. His only defense after someone responds to his actions is - "wait - now YOU'RE the bigot!" It's classic defense mode - much like someone being caught in a lie, etc. It's what these types of people do.
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steve in ky : 4/28/2016 12:38 pm : link
Schilling is a lot like many people in this country. Much to concerned about other peoples behaviour instead of his own.
RE: The very fact that  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 12:40 pm : link
In comment 12927396 ryanmkeane said:
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he's retweeting that picture of the black guys makes it very evident. Why not post a picture of 3 white guys?
You honestly don't understand the context of that picture given the contemporary news cycle?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: So its  
njm : 4/28/2016 12:44 pm : link
In comment 12927241 njm said:
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In comment 12927226 ryanmkeane said:


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There's been no discrimination against white people, ever, in human history.



Surely you jest.


"We don't want the Irish!"

Here is Schilling's own explanation of his comments  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 12:45 pm : link
and I'm done after this, Schilling is the bogeyman I'm not meaning to defend him personally.

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The hunt to be offended…


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This is likely the easiest way to address all of you out there who are just dying to be offended so you can create some sort of faux cause to rally behind.

Let’s make one thing clear right up front. If you get offended by ANYTHING in this post, that’s your fault, all yours.

And for you people too dense to understand this one very important thing. My opinion, 100% mine, and only mine. I don’t represent anyone but myself here, on facebook, on twitter, anywhere.

The meme the world decided to rally behind that I posted months ago. The meme that some of you clowns and more of you spineless looking to be offended folks turned into something it was not. Every one of you gutless cowards, when ‘calling me out’ or calling me a racist, every one of you left out the only word in that entire meme that mattered. You had to, otherwise you’d have had to go elsewhere to find offense and create something out of nothing. Let me help you now. All of you fraudulent media folks, you lazy ass “don’t actually want to work for a story” clowns. The word you left out? the ONLY word that mattered? EXTREMIST. That word being omitted creates two completely different posts with two very different meanings. I don’t dislike or hate Muslims, or people of the Islamic faith. Ask my friends that are both. But then again you all knew that, but when you omit the word extremist you create a person that doesn’t exist and have a story with traction, even if it is a complete lie.
This latest brew ha ha is beyond hilarious. I didn’t post that ugly looking picture. I made a comment about the basic functionality of mens and womens restrooms, period.



See here’s the thing. I do NOT care what color you are, what race, what sex, who you sleep with, what you wear. I don’t care and I never have. I have opinions, but they’re just that, opinions. And opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one and they usually stink.

You know how I know you ‘offended’ people are full of crap? Because I’m not even close to any of the things you so desperately want me to be, so you can whine.

I’m loud, I talk too much, I think I know more than I do, those and a billion other issues I know I have. Like everyone one of you I have flaws, but I’m ok with my flaws, they’re what make me, me. I thank the Lord for the life I’ve been given. A life interspersed and occupied by men and women who are gay, by people of all races and religions, by men and women who dress as the other, by men and women who’ve changed to women and men. Not one decision I’ve ever made about a person has anything to do with those things I just mentioned, nor will it ever.

You frauds out there ranting and screaming about my ‘opinions’ (even if it isn’t) and comments are screaming for “tolerance” and “acceptance” while you refuse to do and be either.

YOU’RE the ones making it the issue. I don’t care, if you ask me about any of the topics it’s likely (much to the chagrin of many) I’ll answer with my opinion.

There are things I have deeply held beliefs in, things I have that are core to who I am, things I am passionate about. If you ask me about them it’s likely I’ll give you a passionate answer, whether you like that answer or not is completely up to you. I am not going to give you answers to make sure you like what I say, let the rest of the insecure world do that.

But let me reiterate, I don’t care who, what, where or why you are who you are. I care about people and how they treat others. You will NEVER in your lives find a single person who’s met me/knows me who would ever say I treated them as anything other than a human. None.

Wouldn’t you assume that all of you offended folks would have heard of me treating people the way you needed me to treat them, to be what you so desperately want me to be?

If people want to create stories or impressions where there are none, and you want/need to get offended by them that’s on you.

But for now, if you want to be offended and have that offense be by something you THINK you interpreted or you THINK you heard, go for it.

But for the love of God stop making crap up, it’s boring and it’s stupid and there are actual causes that need attention such as homeless veterans and our archaic education system.

Two benefits of this I didn’t forsee. 1) Twitter has made their “Block” far easier to use 2) You find out who your friends are when folks create crisis about you, that actually aren’t.
it's draft day  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 12:48 pm : link
Giants pick top 10, I'm done. I've learned some things about how to communicate and be clear, and maybe others on here have too.

I appreciate the general civility on the polarizing topic, but I'm going to get back to work and be distracted only by draft stuff.
This EXTREMIST Muslim meme he commented on had  
giant24 : 4/28/2016 12:55 pm : link
a picture of Hitler with these words:

"Its said only 5-10 percent of Muslims are Extremists...
In 1940, only 7% of Germans were Nazis, How'd that go?"

How is that racist or not even factual?

It is when a dishonest press and PC police restate it that Schilling compared all Muslims to Nazi's dropping the extremist part.
RE: This EXTREMIST Muslim meme he commented on had  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 1:02 pm : link
In comment 12927482 giant24 said:
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a picture of Hitler with these words:

"Its said only 5-10 percent of Muslims are Extremists...
In 1940, only 7% of Germans were Nazis, How'd that go?"

How is that racist or not even factual?

It is when a dishonest press and PC police restate it that Schilling compared all Muslims to Nazi's dropping the extremist part.

giant, just stop. The picture had the word ONLY in big capital letters, with red lettering. And also, it just wasn't factual. 10% of muslims are not extremists. Not even 5 percent are.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So its  
Big Al : 4/28/2016 1:04 pm : link
In comment 12927226 ryanmkeane said:
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In comment 12927211 ryanmkeane said:


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In comment 12927177 giantsblue1 said:


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Isn't it also simple human decency NOT to refer to someone who has done nothing to you as "cracker"?


OK, sure. But again, if someone calls me a cracker, I don't really care. There's been no discrimination against white people, ever, in human history. If someone calls a black person the n word, they are a racist, and pretty much a terrible person.
Just read this thread. This comment has to be one the dumbest most ignorant comments I have ever read on BBI and there has been an uncountable number of dumb things said here.
There are 1.6B  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 1:07 pm : link
muslims in the world. Schilling saying 5-10% of them are extremists is not only false, but impossible.
I don't know whether it is true or false  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 1:12 pm : link
but I don't see how it could be impossible. Have they changed math recently?
Again,  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 1:12 pm : link
comments like that is just fear mongering hatred, rooted in racism. Which is what he is.
He's racism?  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 1:14 pm : link
Or is he fear-mongering hatred?
RE: I don't know whether it is true or false  
Big Al : 4/28/2016 1:14 pm : link
In comment 12927530 Bill L said:
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but I don't see how it could be impossible. Have they changed math recently?
I don't think we are dealing with a Rhodes scholar here.
Alright  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 1:15 pm : link
fine, "technically" it is not impossible. There, are you happy? But it's still not true. Jesus.
The lengths  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 1:16 pm : link
people will go to defend a pure scumbag is mind boggling. I'd like one person here to say "I don't think Curt Schilling is a racist."
Nope not happy  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 1:17 pm : link
because I don't think that something can be "technically" impossible.
RE: The lengths  
Jints in Carolina : 4/28/2016 1:29 pm : link
In comment 12927550 ryanmkeane said:
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people will go to defend a pure scumbag is mind boggling. I'd like one person here to say "I don't think Curt Schilling is a racist."


"I don't think Curt Schilling is a racist."
RE: There are 1.6B  
giant24 : 4/28/2016 1:31 pm : link
In comment 12927510 ryanmkeane said:
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muslims in the world. Schilling saying 5-10% of them are extremists is not only false, but impossible.


One of the most wide ranging polls of Muslims worldwide support the 5-10% of extremist views.

Pew Research poll page 142: "a global median of 8% of Muslims say such attacks (suicide bombings and other forms of violence against civilian targets) are sometimes justified to defend Islam.



The World’s Muslims: Religion, Politics and Society - ( New Window )
Pew is racist!!!  
njm : 4/28/2016 1:32 pm : link
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RE: RE: There are 1.6B  
Big Al : 4/28/2016 1:34 pm : link
In comment 12927588 giant24 said:
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In comment 12927510 ryanmkeane said:


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muslims in the world. Schilling saying 5-10% of them are extremists is not only false, but impossible.



One of the most wide ranging polls of Muslims worldwide support the 5-10% of extremist views.

Pew Research poll page 142: "a global median of 8% of Muslims say such attacks (suicide bombings and other forms of violence against civilian targets) are sometimes justified to defend Islam.

The World’s Muslims: Religion, Politics and Society - ( New Window )
Pew must be wrong. It is impossible.
Schilling is a piece of shit  
David in LA : 4/28/2016 1:37 pm : link
can we all at least agree on that?
RE: RE: There are 1.6B  
Metnut : 4/28/2016 1:59 pm : link
In comment 12927588 giant24 said:
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In comment 12927510 ryanmkeane said:


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One of the most wide ranging polls of Muslims worldwide support the 5-10% of extremist views.

Pew Research poll page 142: "a global median of 8% of Muslims say such attacks (suicide bombings and other forms of violence against civilian targets) are sometimes justified to defend Islam.



How many people in the US would be classified as extremist under a similar methodology?

Trump has said some pretty "extremist" things, particularly in regard to Muslims, and he has better than 8% support.

RE: RE: RE: There are 1.6B  
charlito : 4/28/2016 2:40 pm : link
In comment 12927663 Metnut said:
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In comment 12927588 giant24 said:


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In comment 12927510 ryanmkeane said:


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One of the most wide ranging polls of Muslims worldwide support the 5-10% of extremist views.

Pew Research poll page 142: "a global median of 8% of Muslims say such attacks (suicide bombings and other forms of violence against civilian targets) are sometimes justified to defend Islam.





How many people in the US would be classified as extremist under a similar methodology?

Trump has said some pretty "extremist" things, particularly in regard to Muslims, and he has better than 8% support.


Agree
RE: Id just like to point out  
Mike from SI : 4/28/2016 2:58 pm : link
In comment 12926891 Justlurking said:
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that Yankee fans have always been right about what a piece of shit this guy is.


DING DING DING DING DING
RE: RE: RE: There are 1.6B  
DinDC : 4/28/2016 3:03 pm : link
In comment 12927663 Metnut said:
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How many people in the US would be classified as extremist under a similar methodology?

Trump has said some pretty "extremist" things, particularly in regard to Muslims, and he has better than 8% support.

Poll states 8% feel that suicide bombings and attacks against civilians are sometimes justified. In other words, murder.

Are you actually making an equivalency between Trump wingnuts and support of violence against civilians?? Holy
Pew interviewed exactly .00001869 hundred-thousandths of 1 percent  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/28/2016 3:09 pm : link
of the Muslims worldwide (while excluding Muslims from the entire Western Hemisphere and mainland Europe) and we should seriously consider this poll as a true representation of how all Muslims feel?
looking at the comments here  
I love liverwurst : 4/28/2016 6:15 pm : link
it's a wonder the country has been lost.

Everything the man said is 100% correct.

Liberals are the most hateful thing going, disgrace
great  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/28/2016 6:18 pm : link
another dupe out to make ridiculous comments.
RE: great  
rut17 : 4/28/2016 6:52 pm : link
In comment 12928530 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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another dupe out to make ridiculous comments.


Yep. Eric will never ban him though.

Why should I be banned?  
I love liverwurst : 4/28/2016 7:00 pm : link
Cuz I don't see things like you, the tolerant left?

Everything the man said is correct, ESPN is tilted soo far left its embarrassing..

Go hug a tree and vote for Hillary, Dear leader Obama would be proud

Tool
Schilling made a point?  
Modus Operandi : 4/28/2016 7:03 pm : link
I must've missed that nugget of gold in the bushels of assholishness.
There isn't a quasi-political thread  
Modus Operandi : 4/28/2016 7:08 pm : link
That can be had here without some right wingnut waxing poetic about how great the country once was, how shitty it is now, and how all Republicans are persecuted out there in the real world.

Its no surprise my party continues to nominate candidates who mirror this faux PC outrage, when moderates call them out for the bigots they are.

Truly embarrassing how far this party has fallen.
BBI liberals and SWJs in full force on this thread  
Bockman : 4/28/2016 7:09 pm : link
all too predictable these days, unfortunately
"Dear Leader"  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/28/2016 7:11 pm : link
what an unoriginal and inaccurate descriptor.

How unfulfilled is your life that you have to resort to a terrible job of trolling? Ken M would be ashamed.

They say you are what you eat, but you spelled "worst" incorrectly
RE: BBI liberals and SWJs in full force on this thread  
rut17 : 4/28/2016 7:15 pm : link
In comment 12928628 Bockman said:
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all too predictable these days, unfortunately


Hey look, it's I love liverwurst's other handle.
RE: The lengths  
GiantsFan99 : 4/28/2016 7:18 pm : link
In comment 12927550 ryanmkeane said:
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people will go to defend a pure scumbag is mind boggling. I'd like one person here to say "I don't think Curt Schilling is a racist."


This RYANMKEANE cracks me up. He lets his sympathy for black people cause him to label as "racist" anybody who he deems not to have the sensitivites that he does. Look pal, you don't know Schilling, you don't know what's in his heart and you damn sure can't provide a bit of evidence that he's a racist.

Another keyboard tough guy hurling the most ugly name possible - "racist". It's ugly to ignorantly call someone a racist without basis because racism itself is so ugly. When you do it just because Schilling ain't the bleeding heart liberal you are it's plain irresponsible and wrong.

Others have pointed out the double standard at ESPN AND Schilling was exercising a protected right on his Facebook page. Yes, ESPN has the right to fire him and we have the right to call out ESPN as the left-leaning, PC insane organization that it is.

As for you RYAN, go find yourself a Black Lives Matter rally and spread the other lie among all of your friends that contrary to all available statistical evidence cops, motivated by racism, systematically shoot down innocent blacks in numbers disproportionate to whites.

RE: There isn't a quasi-political thread  
Big Al : 4/28/2016 7:19 pm : link
In comment 12928625 Modus Operandi said:
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That can be had here without some right wingnut waxing poetic about how great the country once was, how shitty it is now, and how all Republicans are persecuted out there in the real world.

Its no surprise my party continues to nominate candidates who mirror this faux PC outrage, when moderates call them out for the bigots they are.

Truly embarrassing how far this party has fallen.
Boy the way Glenn Miller Played
Songs that made the Hit Parade
Guys like us we had it made
Those were the days.

And you knew who you were then
Girls were girl and men were men
Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again

Didn't need no Welfare state
Everybody pulled his weight
Gee our old LaSalle Ran great
Those were the days.
RE: RE: The lengths  
rut17 : 4/28/2016 7:23 pm : link
In comment 12928647 GiantsFan99 said:
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In comment 12927550 ryanmkeane said:


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people will go to defend a pure scumbag is mind boggling. I'd like one person here to say "I don't think Curt Schilling is a racist."



This RYANMKEANE cracks me up. He lets his sympathy for black people cause him to label as "racist" anybody who he deems not to have the sensitivites that he does. Look pal, you don't know Schilling, you don't know what's in his heart and you damn sure can't provide a bit of evidence that he's a racist.

Another keyboard tough guy hurling the most ugly name possible - "racist". It's ugly to ignorantly call someone a racist without basis because racism itself is so ugly. When you do it just because Schilling ain't the bleeding heart liberal you are it's plain irresponsible and wrong.

Others have pointed out the double standard at ESPN AND Schilling was exercising a protected right on his Facebook page. Yes, ESPN has the right to fire him and we have the right to call out ESPN as the left-leaning, PC insane organization that it is.

As for you RYAN, go find yourself a Black Lives Matter rally and spread the other lie among all of your friends that contrary to all available statistical evidence cops, motivated by racism, systematically shoot down innocent blacks in numbers disproportionate to whites.


You signed up today to post this? You are the very definition of a shithead troll.
RE: RE: RE: The lengths  
GiantsFan99 : 4/28/2016 7:25 pm : link
In comment 12928660 rut17 said:
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In comment 12928647 GiantsFan99 said:


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In comment 12927550 ryanmkeane said:


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people will go to defend a pure scumbag is mind boggling. I'd like one person here to say "I don't think Curt Schilling is a racist."



This RYANMKEANE cracks me up. He lets his sympathy for black people cause him to label as "racist" anybody who he deems not to have the sensitivites that he does. Look pal, you don't know Schilling, you don't know what's in his heart and you damn sure can't provide a bit of evidence that he's a racist.

Another keyboard tough guy hurling the most ugly name possible - "racist". It's ugly to ignorantly call someone a racist without basis because racism itself is so ugly. When you do it just because Schilling ain't the bleeding heart liberal you are it's plain irresponsible and wrong.

Others have pointed out the double standard at ESPN AND Schilling was exercising a protected right on his Facebook page. Yes, ESPN has the right to fire him and we have the right to call out ESPN as the left-leaning, PC insane organization that it is.

As for you RYAN, go find yourself a Black Lives Matter rally and spread the other lie among all of your friends that contrary to all available statistical evidence cops, motivated by racism, systematically shoot down innocent blacks in numbers disproportionate to whites.




You signed up today to post this? You are the very definition of a shithead troll.


Deal with it.
Whoa  
Modus Operandi : 4/28/2016 7:27 pm : link
You sure sound tough and manly. I, for one, dig your Butch Cassidy act.

Thanks for stopping by!
Sad thing is that these trolls won't get banned right away  
David in LA : 4/28/2016 7:29 pm : link
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RE: Whoa  
GiantsFan99 : 4/28/2016 7:30 pm : link
In comment 12928679 Modus Operandi said:
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You sure sound tough and manly. I, for one, dig your Butch Cassidy act.

Thanks for stopping by!


I've posted here before under screen name - just so happens password problems caused me to re-register.

I didn't feel the need to explain myself to Mr. Opposition Research above.
RE: Sad thing is that these trolls won't get banned right away  
GiantsFan99 : 4/28/2016 7:31 pm : link
In comment 12928684 David in LA said:
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Or to Dip Shit Dave
Not going to bicker  
I love liverwurst : 4/28/2016 7:57 pm : link
I would like to watch the draft, so this will be it.. I will say,It is shocking the lack of "moral compass" the progressive side has taken.. Lowly, bickering, delusional and unwilling to accept fact and reality.

Big AL: I will say, I hope you're doing well, it's been quite sometime.. Seriously, not kidding
RE: Not going to bicker  
Big Al : 4/28/2016 8:00 pm : link
In comment 12928774 I love liverwurst said:
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I would like to watch the draft, so this will be it.. I will say,It is shocking the lack of "moral compass" the progressive side has taken.. Lowly, bickering, delusional and unwilling to accept fact and reality.

Big AL: I will say, I hope you're doing well, it's been quite sometime.. Seriously, not kidding
You have me at an advantage. What is your old handle?
RE: RE: Not going to bicker  
steve in ky : 4/28/2016 8:03 pm : link
In comment 12928789 Big Al said:
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In comment 12928774 I love liverwurst said:


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I would like to watch the draft, so this will be it.. I will say,It is shocking the lack of "moral compass" the progressive side has taken.. Lowly, bickering, delusional and unwilling to accept fact and reality.

Big AL: I will say, I hope you're doing well, it's been quite sometime.. Seriously, not kidding

You have me at an advantage. What is your old handle?


Had me wondering the same thing.
RE: RE: The very fact that  
buford : 4/28/2016 9:46 pm : link
In comment 12927424 Bill L said:
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In comment 12927396 ryanmkeane said:


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he's retweeting that picture of the black guys makes it very evident. Why not post a picture of 3 white guys?

You honestly don't understand the context of that picture given the contemporary news cycle?


I'm glad I didn't have to say it.
RE: Nobody is turning  
buford : 4/28/2016 9:51 pm : link
In comment 12927219 ryanmkeane said:
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this into a democrat vs republican thing. If you're a bigot, you're a bigot. End of story. Bigots will routinely try and make it a left vs right - that is their MO.


Frankly, I think you are making Schilling's point for him.
RE: RE: RE: RE: There are 1.6B  
Metnut : 4/29/2016 11:02 am : link
In comment 12927871 DinDC said:
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In comment 12927663 Metnut said:


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How many people in the US would be classified as extremist under a similar methodology?

Trump has said some pretty "extremist" things, particularly in regard to Muslims, and he has better than 8% support.



Poll states 8% feel that suicide bombings and attacks against civilians are sometimes justified. In other words, murder.

Are you actually making an equivalency between Trump wingnuts and support of violence against civilians?? Holy


"With the terrorists, you have to take out their families," Trump said during a "Fox & Friends" interview.

He argued that such tactics were necessary because the terrorists claim to not care about their own lives.

"When you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families," he repeated. "They care about their lives, don't kid yourselves. But they say they don't care about their lives. You have to take out their families."

This is what the man said. Looks to me as if he is calling for attacking civilians and he has the support of more than 8% of America. Who cares about facts though. Easier to just ignore them and bash/hate Muslims.
Just to be clear...  
Metnut : 4/29/2016 11:31 am : link
not saying that trump supporters all want to murder women and children related to terrorists, just that there's extremist views in the US also that have support.
RE: RE: Nobody is turning  
GiantsFan99 : 4/29/2016 7:02 pm : link
In comment 12929922 buford said:
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In comment 12927219 ryanmkeane said:


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this into a democrat vs republican thing. If you're a bigot, you're a bigot. End of story. Bigots will routinely try and make it a left vs right - that is their MO.



Frankly, I think you are making Schilling's point for him.


Not to put too fine a point on it but our RYAN is misguided. Bigots don't routinely try and make it a left vs right, observers do. It's accurate and fair to label liberals when you find them and their views, in spite of their tendencies to run from the label. Their cries of "bigot" is merely more name calling and sand in the face of those that have correctly called them out. "Bigot" is nothing more than their attempt to smear and silence those that they disagree with.
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