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NFT: Schilling: ESPN employs hardcore racists

DanMetroMan : 4/28/2016 10:02 am
“Some of the most racist things that I’ve ever heard come out of people that are on the air at ESPN. There are some of the biggest racists in sports commentating, and you take it for what it is. You know who they are, you know what they are. I like that they are openly because then you know who they are. You know that they exist.”

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geez  
UConn4523 : 4/28/2016 10:03 am : link
this guy is really an awesome role model for his children. Does anything humble this loser?
Fine example of someone taking responsibility for themselves...  
Gmaniac1 : 4/28/2016 10:06 am : link
... "Look at them! They do it, too. Even worse than me!"
And guess what  
arniefez : 4/28/2016 10:09 am : link
If they post those opinions on a public forum or social media they'll get fired too.

LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/28/2016 10:12 am : link
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You know who they are, you know what they are. I like that they are openly because then you know who they are. You know that they exist.”


That sounds like an interview with one of Schilling's co-hosts!
Can this guy  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 10:18 am : link
just disappear already? Jeez.
Id just like to point out  
Justlurking : 4/28/2016 10:29 am : link
that Yankee fans have always been right about what a piece of shit this guy is.
The guy is a disgusting slob  
MadPlaid : 4/28/2016 10:30 am : link
Can't even take responsibility for being an obnoxious asshole.
Somebody please...  
Jim in Tampa : 4/28/2016 10:32 am : link
Stick a (fake) bloody sock in his mouth and tell him to STFU!
More from the interview on ESPN left wing bias  
giant24 : 4/28/2016 10:41 am : link
“It was apparent to me early on that if you wanted to go off topic as a sportsperson, you had to go off topic LEFT or you were going to get into trouble,” Schilling said."

"But I had people come up to me and go [whispering] ‘Hey, I’m with ya. I’m a Republican, too.’ It was like a deadly serious thing, like, we didn’t talk… like religion on the table was a much easier discussion than who you voted for.”

So it is the Left's fault  
MadPlaid : 4/28/2016 10:45 am : link
that Schilling is an inconsiderate insensitive filterless pinhead? Incredible
RE: So it is the Left's fault  
njm : 4/28/2016 10:48 am : link
In comment 12926945 MadPlaid said:
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that Schilling is an inconsiderate insensitive filterless pinhead? Incredible


Well, he can be all of that and still make a valid point.
Most of the time though from my experience (which I admit with ESPN  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 10:52 am : link
my experience is limited) but from what I know when people went off-topic to the left it was in the context of sports.

racism in sports (Stephen A Smith practically makes a living on this topic).

Schilling off-topic was waaaayy off anything remotely relevant to sports.

...  
rut17 : 4/28/2016 10:52 am : link
This asshole has been whining for the last 2 years that the only reason he's not in Cooperstown is because he's a Republican. I hope he never gets in.
Go away Curt  
NYerInMA : 4/28/2016 10:53 am : link
Far, far away.
RE: ...  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 10:55 am : link
In comment 12926975 rut17 said:
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This asshole has been whining for the last 2 years that the only reason he's not in Cooperstown is because he's a Republican. I hope he never gets in.


He should be in the hall-of-fame. I don't care what his political views are or if he's racist or just an asshole, he is a hall-of fame baseball player.

I do doubt he gets in though because the BBWAA is awful, even without the added ammo from Curt.
He'd say..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/28/2016 10:57 am : link
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Somebody please...
Jim in Tampa : 10:32 am : link : reply
Stick a (fake) bloody sock in his mouth and tell him to STFU!


Yummmm. Taste's like ketchup!
what most do not understand  
mdc1 : 4/28/2016 11:03 am : link
is that the world is full of racism coming from every angle and every ethnicity. What most see become inundated with is "framing" to only focus on one aspect and one group or individual and used as an agenda by someone or some group.

Schilling is an example of this. I am not saying what he is doing is not stupid and hateful, but he is targeted and he probably right that a connected few hide their worldviews and bullshit behind a cloak of hypocrisy.
1 Schilling isn't half as  
RetroJint : 4/28/2016 11:03 am : link
smart as he thinks he is. 2. ESPN is incorrigibly Lefty, a Daily Show that bends sports into politics. 3. Ketchup Stain happens to be correct on public rest room sensibilities: if you have a dick, you are a man. That is the acience speaking. The science informs all of our decisions, after all.
Kornheiser said this  
giant24 : 4/28/2016 11:12 am : link
"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.

RE: Kornheiser said this  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 11:18 am : link
In comment 12927050 giant24 said:
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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.

giant I think the difference is, Curt Schilling is a known bigot and racist, it was just the final straw. ESPN was looking for a reason to fire him and they got one. He should have been gone long ago. Kornheiser, by all acounts, not a racist.
RE: Kornheiser said this  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 11:19 am : link
In comment 12927050 giant24 said:
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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.
WHat Kornheiser did was wrong and he should have also been fired, but that doesn't remove responsibility from Schilling or protect him from being canned himself. You're a public figure and you're also sort of representing your employer even in off hours. Especially wrt social media. You have to be more cognizant and more generally responsible. It's tragic that your employer controls your behavior when you're not representing them or on their clock, but that is simply the way it is and Schilling should not only know that but be respectful of it.
RE: RE: Kornheiser said this  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 11:22 am : link
In comment 12927075 ryanmkeane said:
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In comment 12927050 giant24 said:


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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.



giant I think the difference is, Curt Schilling is a known bigot and racist, it was just the final straw. ESPN was looking for a reason to fire him and they got one. He should have been gone long ago. Kornheiser, by all acounts, not a racist.


Not sure how Schilling is a known racist. A lot of adjectives might be fair, but what did he do that was racist? His tweet comparing Muslim extremists to nazis? does that count as racist? Saying Hillary Clinton should be buried under the jail? or saying people with a penis need to use men's rooms.

is there something I am not aware of?
RE: RE: Kornheiser said this  
giant24 : 4/28/2016 11:25 am : link
In comment 12927075 ryanmkeane said:
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In comment 12927050 giant24 said:


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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.



giant I think the difference is, Curt Schilling is a known bigot and racist, it was just the final straw. ESPN was looking for a reason to fire him and they got one. He should have been gone long ago. Kornheiser, by all acounts, not a racist.


How exactly is Schilling a known racist/bigot?? Because he thinks Islamic terrorists are evil and men dressed as woman who have penises shouldn't be in a locker room or bathroom with young girls??
RE: RE: RE: Kornheiser said this  
giantsblue1 : 4/28/2016 11:25 am : link
In comment 12927094 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 12927075 ryanmkeane said:


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In comment 12927050 giant24 said:


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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.



giant I think the difference is, Curt Schilling is a known bigot and racist, it was just the final straw. ESPN was looking for a reason to fire him and they got one. He should have been gone long ago. Kornheiser, by all acounts, not a racist.



Not sure how Schilling is a known racist. A lot of adjectives might be fair, but what did he do that was racist? His tweet comparing Muslim extremists to nazis? does that count as racist? Saying Hillary Clinton should be buried under the jail? or saying people with a penis need to use men's rooms.

is there something I am not aware of?


I think it fit a better narrative when people reported the Nazis comment to leave out the extremist part.
RE: RE: Kornheiser said this  
njm : 4/28/2016 11:26 am : link
In comment 12927075 ryanmkeane said:
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In comment 12927050 giant24 said:


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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.



giant I think the difference is, Curt Schilling is a known bigot and racist, it was just the final straw. ESPN was looking for a reason to fire him and they got one. He should have been gone long ago. Kornheiser, by all acounts, not a racist.


Schilling got fired. Koenheiser didn't even get reprimanded or suspended.
giant24  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/28/2016 11:27 am : link
Showing his intelligence :)
if nothing else, Schilling is an idiot  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/28/2016 11:34 am : link
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“It was apparent to me early on that if you wanted to go off topic as a sportsperson, you had to go off topic LEFT or you were going to get into trouble,” Schilling said."


If that's the case, then Schilling knew precisely not to spout off his bigoted, fear-mongering views on his public platform. He doesn't have a right to work for ESPN.
giant  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 11:34 am : link
i think you need to step away from the keyboard...slowly...
Schilling saying  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 11:37 am : link
his colleagues are some of the biggest racists ever is just backwards lunacy talk. Happens all the time. It's the equivalent of white people calling a black person a racist for using the word "cracker." The only difference is, white people weren't slaves for hundreds of years.

Schilling is a racist hack. Anybody else who thinks differently, I don't know what to tell toy.
Alright  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 11:41 am : link
I'll submit that racist might be too harsh a word. If you're more comfortable with "asshole bigot" - I'll use that.
RE: Schilling saying  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 11:42 am : link
In comment 12927155 ryanmkeane said:
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his colleagues are some of the biggest racists ever is just backwards lunacy talk. Happens all the time. It's the equivalent of white people calling a black person a racist for using the word "cracker." The only difference is, white people weren't slaves for hundreds of years.

Schilling is a racist hack. Anybody else who thinks differently, I don't know what to tell toy.


Again, what did Schilling do or say that is racist? I'm not saying he is or isn't, but I am asking what evidence you have? I have not seen any evidence of racism from him and it's 100% possible since I don't follow every single tweet or comment he makes that I just don't know about it.

Or is it just another...he's a Republican, he's racist comment, which make you look like a bigger idiot than Schilling, which is kind of hard to do.

Congratulations.
So its  
giantsblue1 : 4/28/2016 11:42 am : link
Cool to hold stuff against a person for stuff they never did or agree with based on white people doing it a long time ago?
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njm : 4/28/2016 11:44 am : link
In comment 12927155 ryanmkeane said:
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It's the equivalent of white people calling a black person a racist for using the word "cracker." The only difference is, white people weren't slaves for hundreds of years.



Neither was anyone who is currently calling someone "cracker". Or do you believe in original sin.? BTW, what about references to "Hymetown"?
RE: So it is the Left's fault  
The 12th Man : 4/28/2016 11:44 am : link
In comment 12926945 MadPlaid said:
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that Schilling is an inconsiderate insensitive filterless pinhead? Incredible



Here is what I do not understand. Who cares who uses what bathroom. Men's room and women's room both have stalls with doors on them go in close the door take care of your business, sit, stand who really cares. The only time I ever saw a woman stand and urinate I was in McSorley's in NYC. The line was ridiculous for the ladies room and she was standing right next to me hitting the urinal better than me. I am tired of all this BS over bathroom's.
Guys,  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 11:48 am : link
stop. Honestly. Defending Schilling is a fruitless exercise.
RE: Guys,  
njm : 4/28/2016 11:50 am : link
In comment 12927199 ryanmkeane said:
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stop. Honestly. Defending Schilling is a fruitless exercise.


Nobody's defending what Schilling did. But that doesn't mean he can't make a valid point.
RE: So its  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 11:51 am : link
In comment 12927177 giantsblue1 said:
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Cool to hold stuff against a person for stuff they never did or agree with based on white people doing it a long time ago?

No, it's not cool, it's just simple human decency. I, for one, have sympathy for black people, because they a) were enslaved for hundreds of years and b) are still looked down upon by millions of white people in this country. Racism is alive and well folks, don't act like it isn't or it went away somehow.
RE: More from the interview on ESPN left wing bias  
Sonic Youth : 4/28/2016 11:52 am : link
In comment 12926933 giant24 said:
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“It was apparent to me early on that if you wanted to go off topic as a sportsperson, you had to go off topic LEFT or you were going to get into trouble,” Schilling said."

"But I had people come up to me and go [whispering] ‘Hey, I’m with ya. I’m a Republican, too.’ It was like a deadly serious thing, like, we didn’t talk… like religion on the table was a much easier discussion than who you voted for.”

predictable post from giants24.
RE: RE: So its  
njm : 4/28/2016 11:53 am : link
In comment 12927211 ryanmkeane said:
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In comment 12927177 giantsblue1 said:


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Cool to hold stuff against a person for stuff they never did or agree with based on white people doing it a long time ago?


No, it's not cool, it's just simple human decency. I, for one, have sympathy for black people, because they a) were enslaved for hundreds of years and b) are still looked down upon by millions of white people in this country. Racism is alive and well folks, don't act like it isn't or it went away somehow.


Isn't it also simple human decency NOT to refer to someone who has done nothing to you as "cracker"?
Nobody is turning  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 11:53 am : link
this into a democrat vs republican thing. If you're a bigot, you're a bigot. End of story. Bigots will routinely try and make it a left vs right - that is their MO.
RE: RE: RE: So its  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 11:55 am : link
In comment 12927218 njm said:
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In comment 12927211 ryanmkeane said:


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In comment 12927177 giantsblue1 said:


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Isn't it also simple human decency NOT to refer to someone who has done nothing to you as "cracker"?

OK, sure. But again, if someone calls me a cracker, I don't really care. There's been no discrimination against white people, ever, in human history. If someone calls a black person the n word, they are a racist, and pretty much a terrible person.
If we are going to have standards and rules:  
GiantsUA : 4/28/2016 11:56 am : link
I believe everyone should abide by said rules, no one get's a pass because of skin color or the fact that ancestors were mistreated.

That being said, CS should have been horse whipped in public for supporting W.
Huh??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/28/2016 11:57 am : link
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here's been no discrimination against white people, ever, in human history


Tell that to the black Jews? The Hispanic Serbs or Croats?

Every race has been discriminated against. Often.
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njm : 4/28/2016 11:58 am : link
In comment 12927226 ryanmkeane said:
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There's been no discrimination against white people, ever, in human history.


Surely you jest.

Racism is absolutely  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 11:58 am : link
alive, doesn't mean Schilling is a racist.

In today's society, being labeled a racist is like 4th or 5th on the hierarchy of the career death knell:

1. Child Molester
2. Rapist/Murderer
3. Kidnapper
4. Wife beater
4a. Racist

It's irresponsible and honestly disgusting to toss the accusation around so cavalierly.

It's like we're back in 1690's Salem, MA.

Being an asshole or ignorant (if that's what you think Schilling is) doesn't make him a racist.

This has less to do with Curt Schilling than it does the people who use their own prejudices to judge people.
The Lions in Rome were well fed.  
GiantsUA : 4/28/2016 11:59 am : link
CHRISTIANS!
RE: RE: So it is the Left's fault  
steve in ky : 4/28/2016 12:00 pm : link
In comment 12927186 The 12th Man said:
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that Schilling is an inconsiderate insensitive filterless pinhead? Incredible




Here is what I do not understand. Who cares who uses what bathroom. Men's room and women's room both have stalls with doors on them go in close the door take care of your business, sit, stand who really cares. The only time I ever saw a woman stand and urinate I was in McSorley's in NYC. The line was ridiculous for the ladies room and she was standing right next to me hitting the urinal better than me. I am tired of all this BS over bathroom's.


One could also ask why does it matter so much to the man who identifys himself as a woman to have to use the women facilities? If we are to assume that he is mature enough, and in touch with himself enough to understand those feelings enough to act on them, then wouldn't he be mature enough to also understand that there is likley plenty of children, young girls and even women who wouldn't as easily identify with a strange man as being a women and be uncomfortable changing with him in a locker room or using the same bathroom?

If he identifys himself as a women good for him but I'm sure it took him many years working through it to come to the point to where he is now in acting on that and I don't see why he can't simply be the bigger person and be gracious enough to simply change in a mans locker room. If I was in a locker room and saw some guy in drag changing I couldn't care less, but I think it would upsetting to my nine year old daughter if she was faced with it.
I think people  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 12:00 pm : link
need to just be honest with themselves, that's all. If you don't think Schilling is a racist, based on all his comments he's made, and his views, then...you're kidding yourself. That's my opinion, anyway. Doesn't mean you can't have yours.
RE: If we are going to have standards and rules:  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 12:01 pm : link
In comment 12927236 GiantsUA said:
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I believe everyone should abide by said rules, no one get's a pass because of skin color or the fact that ancestors were mistreated.

That being said, CS should have been horse whipped in public for supporting W.
I understand it's mot mean to be literal, but to me the last part id equally or even more offensive than anything potentially racist that someone could say. It's a free will, free thought, free...dom kind of thing. You should be allowed to have an individual view, philosophical or ideological that differs from others and IMO there's no greater or lesser validity or worth to it.
I am staying  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 12:02 pm : link
away from the dem vs repub stuff. Schilling is a bigot, in every way shape and form - and any defense of him is pathetic. That's my only point.
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