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NFT: Schilling: ESPN employs hardcore racists

DanMetroMan : 4/28/2016 10:02 am
“Some of the most racist things that I’ve ever heard come out of people that are on the air at ESPN. There are some of the biggest racists in sports commentating, and you take it for what it is. You know who they are, you know what they are. I like that they are openly because then you know who they are. You know that they exist.”

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RE: Racism is absolutely  
njm : 4/28/2016 12:03 pm : link
In comment 12927246 pjcas18 said:
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It's like we're back in 1690's Salem, MA.



Or the hearing room of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee of Investigations in the early 50's.
RE: I think people  
giant24 : 4/28/2016 12:03 pm : link
In comment 12927257 ryanmkeane said:
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need to just be honest with themselves, that's all. If you don't think Schilling is a racist, based on all his comments he's made, and his views, then...you're kidding yourself. That's my opinion, anyway. Doesn't mean you can't have yours.


What has he said that makes him a racist? Be specific and use his quotes.
RE: I think people  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 12:03 pm : link
In comment 12927257 ryanmkeane said:
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need to just be honest with themselves, that's all. If you don't think Schilling is a racist, based on all his comments he's made, and his views, then...you're kidding yourself. That's my opinion, anyway. Doesn't mean you can't have yours.
That's not even internally consistent.
RE: I think people  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 12:07 pm : link
In comment 12927257 ryanmkeane said:
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need to just be honest with themselves, that's all. If you don't think Schilling is a racist, based on all his comments he's made, and his views, then...you're kidding yourself. That's my opinion, anyway. Doesn't mean you can't have yours.


So you are using your un-proven prejudices based on limited information you have of someone to draw conclusions and intolerance about them, which is in essence the definition of bigotry.

as long you you're cool to wear that scarlet letter too, feel to toss it around yourself.

Schilling let's see  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 12:07 pm : link
here - the Muslims comments. Him constantly retweeting confederate flag and old south racist jargon. What else do you need?
Alright  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 12:08 pm : link
so everyone is saying here that they don't think Schilling is a racist? Just trying to take a quick poll..if you had to guess...
Just days ago  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 12:13 pm : link
he retweeted a photoshopped pic of Beyonce dressed as a police officer arresting a black guy bent over on a car with the caption "Hey Beyonce, this is what a real hero looks like." So...again. I don't have to look that far to find stuff like this. It's constant.
RE: Kornheiser said this  
steve in ky : 4/28/2016 12:14 pm : link
In comment 12927050 giant24 said:
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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.


If Shilling chooses to post a childish picture that his employer believes could offend people and therefore reflect poorly on their brand they have every right to fire him.

They obviously don't feel Kornheirser crossed that line.

RE: Just days ago  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 12:14 pm : link
In comment 12927313 ryanmkeane said:
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he retweeted a photoshopped pic of Beyonce dressed as a police officer arresting a black guy bent over on a car with the caption "Hey Beyonce, this is what a real hero looks like." So...again. I don't have to look that far to find stuff like this. It's constant.
policemen aren't heroes?
RE: Just days ago  
madgiantscow009 : 4/28/2016 12:14 pm : link
In comment 12927313 ryanmkeane said:
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he retweeted a photoshopped pic of Beyonce dressed as a police officer arresting a black guy bent over on a car with the caption "Hey Beyonce, this is what a real hero looks like." So...again. I don't have to look that far to find stuff like this. It's constant.


was she arresting a criminal?
RE: RE: Kornheiser said this  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 12:16 pm : link
In comment 12927316 steve in ky said:
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In comment 12927050 giant24 said:


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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.




If Shilling chooses to post a childish picture that his employer believes could offend people and therefore reflect poorly on their brand they have every right to fire him.

They obviously don't feel Kornheirser crossed that line.
Absolutely. I mean, I think Kornheiser crossed the line, but lines do have a certain element of fluidity to them, even for ESPN. But come on, this is ESPN we're talking about; it's not like you can apply common human standards here. The salient point is that it is their absolute right.
Whether he's a racist or not  
arniefez : 4/28/2016 12:19 pm : link
isn't the point. He wasn't fired for being a racist. He was fired for public statements that his public company thought were bad for their business. The rest of what Schilling is about is open for personal opinion. The business part is not.

His former employer thought he was hurting their bottom line by making statements that would offend large parts of their audience and reflect back on them. So they terminated him well within their rights.
RE: Whether he's a racist or not  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 12:20 pm : link
In comment 12927338 arniefez said:
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isn't the point. He wasn't fired for being a racist. He was fired for public statements that his public company thought were bad for their business. The rest of what Schilling is about is open for personal opinion. The business part is not.

His former employer thought he was hurting their bottom line by making statements that would offend large parts of their audience and reflect back on them. So they terminated him well within their rights.
precisely.
RE: RE: RE: Kornheiser said this  
steve in ky : 4/28/2016 12:22 pm : link
In comment 12927327 Bill L said:
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In comment 12927316 steve in ky said:


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In comment 12927050 giant24 said:


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"Are they like ISIS trying to establish a caliphate here?!” Kornheiser said on ESPN 980 when talking about the Tea party to Howard Fineman and nothing happened to him.

ESPN removed baseball analyst Curt Schilling from coverage of the 2015 Major League Baseball season after he retweeted a photo comparing radical Muslims to Nazis.




If Shilling chooses to post a childish picture that his employer believes could offend people and therefore reflect poorly on their brand they have every right to fire him.

They obviously don't feel Kornheirser crossed that line.


Absolutely. I mean, I think Kornheiser crossed the line, but lines do have a certain element of fluidity to them, even for ESPN. But come on, this is ESPN we're talking about; it's not like you can apply common human standards here. The salient point is that it is their absolute right.


Bill, and you may be absolutely correct in that Kornheiser did as well. The thing is even if one assumes that they have chosen poorly they have the right to make all kinds of poor decisions themselves on behalf of their business. Maybe they shouldn't have fired Shilling, maybe they should have fired both of them, who really cares? They are the ones that must live with their decisions, just as Shilling now has to with his.
A couple of things about CS  
Rob in CT/NYC : 4/28/2016 12:22 pm : link
That aren't in dispute:

1. Has had issues with Latino players as a result of mimicing an accent "baseball been berry, berry good to me".

2. He collects Nazi memorabilia - not a crime, of course.

3. Has had issues with Muslims (comparisons to Nazis, suggesting land mines as prayer mats);

4. Has supported the confederate flag on social media;

5. Every Yankee fan was 100 percent right about this assbag;

I suppose we don't know for certain what is in his heart, but bigoted, insensitive and intolerant seem reasonable starting points.
I hope you didn't think that I wasn't agreeing with you  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 12:23 pm : link
I completely do.
(Steve)  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 12:23 pm : link
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RE: A couple of things about CS  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 12:24 pm : link
In comment 12927353 Rob in CT/NYC said:
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That aren't in dispute:

1. Has had issues with Latino players as a result of mimicing an accent "baseball been berry, berry good to me".

2. He collects Nazi memorabilia - not a crime, of course.

3. Has had issues with Muslims (comparisons to Nazis, suggesting land mines as prayer mats);

4. Has supported the confederate flag on social media;

5. Every Yankee fan was 100 percent right about this assbag;

I suppose we don't know for certain what is in his heart, but bigoted, insensitive and intolerant seem reasonable starting points.

Exactly. But hey don't call him a racist ...

Gimme a break guys.
RE: I hope you didn't think that I wasn't agreeing with you  
steve in ky : 4/28/2016 12:28 pm : link
In comment 12927357 Bill L said:
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I completely do.


No I got that, I guess I was just expounding on it all because I just doesn't understand why so many people seem to miss the heart of the whole thing.

It's a business decision right or wrong agree with or not. Everything else becomes noise.

Curt also has these posts  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 12:32 pm : link
on his facebook page that he has shared and if you can see into a man's heart and know what he feels enough to cast judgment based on shared facebook posts, good for you. I do not possess that power nor want to that high of a horse. I have no love for Curt Schilling. In fact I hated the bloody sock incident and I hate the Red Sox. and I think his behavior was self destructive (intentionally perhaps), but I also don't like labeling and stereotyping and truly believe the cliche, hate breeds hate and it's coming from all angles these days in the USA, especially and more so in many cases the ones pointing the fingers.




The very fact that  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 12:35 pm : link
he's retweeting that picture of the black guys makes it very evident. Why not post a picture of 3 white guys?
pjcas  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 12:37 pm : link
I understand your point but I'm not the one spewing the hate constantly - it's him. He's the bigot, not me. His only defense after someone responds to his actions is - "wait - now YOU'RE the bigot!" It's classic defense mode - much like someone being caught in a lie, etc. It's what these types of people do.
.  
steve in ky : 4/28/2016 12:38 pm : link
Schilling is a lot like many people in this country. Much to concerned about other peoples behaviour instead of his own.
RE: The very fact that  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 12:40 pm : link
In comment 12927396 ryanmkeane said:
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he's retweeting that picture of the black guys makes it very evident. Why not post a picture of 3 white guys?
You honestly don't understand the context of that picture given the contemporary news cycle?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: So its  
njm : 4/28/2016 12:44 pm : link
In comment 12927241 njm said:
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There's been no discrimination against white people, ever, in human history.



Surely you jest.


"We don't want the Irish!"

Here is Schilling's own explanation of his comments  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 12:45 pm : link
and I'm done after this, Schilling is the bogeyman I'm not meaning to defend him personally.

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The hunt to be offended…


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This is likely the easiest way to address all of you out there who are just dying to be offended so you can create some sort of faux cause to rally behind.

Let’s make one thing clear right up front. If you get offended by ANYTHING in this post, that’s your fault, all yours.

And for you people too dense to understand this one very important thing. My opinion, 100% mine, and only mine. I don’t represent anyone but myself here, on facebook, on twitter, anywhere.

The meme the world decided to rally behind that I posted months ago. The meme that some of you clowns and more of you spineless looking to be offended folks turned into something it was not. Every one of you gutless cowards, when ‘calling me out’ or calling me a racist, every one of you left out the only word in that entire meme that mattered. You had to, otherwise you’d have had to go elsewhere to find offense and create something out of nothing. Let me help you now. All of you fraudulent media folks, you lazy ass “don’t actually want to work for a story” clowns. The word you left out? the ONLY word that mattered? EXTREMIST. That word being omitted creates two completely different posts with two very different meanings. I don’t dislike or hate Muslims, or people of the Islamic faith. Ask my friends that are both. But then again you all knew that, but when you omit the word extremist you create a person that doesn’t exist and have a story with traction, even if it is a complete lie.
This latest brew ha ha is beyond hilarious. I didn’t post that ugly looking picture. I made a comment about the basic functionality of mens and womens restrooms, period.



See here’s the thing. I do NOT care what color you are, what race, what sex, who you sleep with, what you wear. I don’t care and I never have. I have opinions, but they’re just that, opinions. And opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one and they usually stink.

You know how I know you ‘offended’ people are full of crap? Because I’m not even close to any of the things you so desperately want me to be, so you can whine.

I’m loud, I talk too much, I think I know more than I do, those and a billion other issues I know I have. Like everyone one of you I have flaws, but I’m ok with my flaws, they’re what make me, me. I thank the Lord for the life I’ve been given. A life interspersed and occupied by men and women who are gay, by people of all races and religions, by men and women who dress as the other, by men and women who’ve changed to women and men. Not one decision I’ve ever made about a person has anything to do with those things I just mentioned, nor will it ever.

You frauds out there ranting and screaming about my ‘opinions’ (even if it isn’t) and comments are screaming for “tolerance” and “acceptance” while you refuse to do and be either.

YOU’RE the ones making it the issue. I don’t care, if you ask me about any of the topics it’s likely (much to the chagrin of many) I’ll answer with my opinion.

There are things I have deeply held beliefs in, things I have that are core to who I am, things I am passionate about. If you ask me about them it’s likely I’ll give you a passionate answer, whether you like that answer or not is completely up to you. I am not going to give you answers to make sure you like what I say, let the rest of the insecure world do that.

But let me reiterate, I don’t care who, what, where or why you are who you are. I care about people and how they treat others. You will NEVER in your lives find a single person who’s met me/knows me who would ever say I treated them as anything other than a human. None.

Wouldn’t you assume that all of you offended folks would have heard of me treating people the way you needed me to treat them, to be what you so desperately want me to be?

If people want to create stories or impressions where there are none, and you want/need to get offended by them that’s on you.

But for now, if you want to be offended and have that offense be by something you THINK you interpreted or you THINK you heard, go for it.

But for the love of God stop making crap up, it’s boring and it’s stupid and there are actual causes that need attention such as homeless veterans and our archaic education system.

Two benefits of this I didn’t forsee. 1) Twitter has made their “Block” far easier to use 2) You find out who your friends are when folks create crisis about you, that actually aren’t.
it's draft day  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 12:48 pm : link
Giants pick top 10, I'm done. I've learned some things about how to communicate and be clear, and maybe others on here have too.

I appreciate the general civility on the polarizing topic, but I'm going to get back to work and be distracted only by draft stuff.
This EXTREMIST Muslim meme he commented on had  
giant24 : 4/28/2016 12:55 pm : link
a picture of Hitler with these words:

"Its said only 5-10 percent of Muslims are Extremists...
In 1940, only 7% of Germans were Nazis, How'd that go?"

How is that racist or not even factual?

It is when a dishonest press and PC police restate it that Schilling compared all Muslims to Nazi's dropping the extremist part.
RE: This EXTREMIST Muslim meme he commented on had  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 1:02 pm : link
In comment 12927482 giant24 said:
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a picture of Hitler with these words:

"Its said only 5-10 percent of Muslims are Extremists...
In 1940, only 7% of Germans were Nazis, How'd that go?"

How is that racist or not even factual?

It is when a dishonest press and PC police restate it that Schilling compared all Muslims to Nazi's dropping the extremist part.

giant, just stop. The picture had the word ONLY in big capital letters, with red lettering. And also, it just wasn't factual. 10% of muslims are not extremists. Not even 5 percent are.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So its  
Big Al : 4/28/2016 1:04 pm : link
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Isn't it also simple human decency NOT to refer to someone who has done nothing to you as "cracker"?


OK, sure. But again, if someone calls me a cracker, I don't really care. There's been no discrimination against white people, ever, in human history. If someone calls a black person the n word, they are a racist, and pretty much a terrible person.
Just read this thread. This comment has to be one the dumbest most ignorant comments I have ever read on BBI and there has been an uncountable number of dumb things said here.
There are 1.6B  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 1:07 pm : link
muslims in the world. Schilling saying 5-10% of them are extremists is not only false, but impossible.
I don't know whether it is true or false  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 1:12 pm : link
but I don't see how it could be impossible. Have they changed math recently?
Again,  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 1:12 pm : link
comments like that is just fear mongering hatred, rooted in racism. Which is what he is.
He's racism?  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 1:14 pm : link
Or is he fear-mongering hatred?
RE: I don't know whether it is true or false  
Big Al : 4/28/2016 1:14 pm : link
In comment 12927530 Bill L said:
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but I don't see how it could be impossible. Have they changed math recently?
I don't think we are dealing with a Rhodes scholar here.
Alright  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 1:15 pm : link
fine, "technically" it is not impossible. There, are you happy? But it's still not true. Jesus.
The lengths  
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2016 1:16 pm : link
people will go to defend a pure scumbag is mind boggling. I'd like one person here to say "I don't think Curt Schilling is a racist."
Nope not happy  
Bill L : 4/28/2016 1:17 pm : link
because I don't think that something can be "technically" impossible.
RE: The lengths  
Jints in Carolina : 4/28/2016 1:29 pm : link
In comment 12927550 ryanmkeane said:
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people will go to defend a pure scumbag is mind boggling. I'd like one person here to say "I don't think Curt Schilling is a racist."


"I don't think Curt Schilling is a racist."
RE: There are 1.6B  
giant24 : 4/28/2016 1:31 pm : link
In comment 12927510 ryanmkeane said:
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muslims in the world. Schilling saying 5-10% of them are extremists is not only false, but impossible.


One of the most wide ranging polls of Muslims worldwide support the 5-10% of extremist views.

Pew Research poll page 142: "a global median of 8% of Muslims say such attacks (suicide bombings and other forms of violence against civilian targets) are sometimes justified to defend Islam.



The World’s Muslims: Religion, Politics and Society - ( New Window )
Pew is racist!!!  
njm : 4/28/2016 1:32 pm : link
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RE: RE: There are 1.6B  
Big Al : 4/28/2016 1:34 pm : link
In comment 12927588 giant24 said:
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muslims in the world. Schilling saying 5-10% of them are extremists is not only false, but impossible.



One of the most wide ranging polls of Muslims worldwide support the 5-10% of extremist views.

Pew Research poll page 142: "a global median of 8% of Muslims say such attacks (suicide bombings and other forms of violence against civilian targets) are sometimes justified to defend Islam.

The World’s Muslims: Religion, Politics and Society - ( New Window )
Pew must be wrong. It is impossible.
Schilling is a piece of shit  
David in LA : 4/28/2016 1:37 pm : link
can we all at least agree on that?
RE: RE: There are 1.6B  
Metnut : 4/28/2016 1:59 pm : link
In comment 12927588 giant24 said:
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One of the most wide ranging polls of Muslims worldwide support the 5-10% of extremist views.

Pew Research poll page 142: "a global median of 8% of Muslims say such attacks (suicide bombings and other forms of violence against civilian targets) are sometimes justified to defend Islam.



How many people in the US would be classified as extremist under a similar methodology?

Trump has said some pretty "extremist" things, particularly in regard to Muslims, and he has better than 8% support.

RE: RE: RE: There are 1.6B  
charlito : 4/28/2016 2:40 pm : link
In comment 12927663 Metnut said:
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One of the most wide ranging polls of Muslims worldwide support the 5-10% of extremist views.

Pew Research poll page 142: "a global median of 8% of Muslims say such attacks (suicide bombings and other forms of violence against civilian targets) are sometimes justified to defend Islam.





How many people in the US would be classified as extremist under a similar methodology?

Trump has said some pretty "extremist" things, particularly in regard to Muslims, and he has better than 8% support.


Agree
RE: Id just like to point out  
Mike from SI : 4/28/2016 2:58 pm : link
In comment 12926891 Justlurking said:
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that Yankee fans have always been right about what a piece of shit this guy is.


DING DING DING DING DING
RE: RE: RE: There are 1.6B  
DinDC : 4/28/2016 3:03 pm : link
In comment 12927663 Metnut said:
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How many people in the US would be classified as extremist under a similar methodology?

Trump has said some pretty "extremist" things, particularly in regard to Muslims, and he has better than 8% support.

Poll states 8% feel that suicide bombings and attacks against civilians are sometimes justified. In other words, murder.

Are you actually making an equivalency between Trump wingnuts and support of violence against civilians?? Holy
Pew interviewed exactly .00001869 hundred-thousandths of 1 percent  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/28/2016 3:09 pm : link
of the Muslims worldwide (while excluding Muslims from the entire Western Hemisphere and mainland Europe) and we should seriously consider this poll as a true representation of how all Muslims feel?
looking at the comments here  
I love liverwurst : 4/28/2016 6:15 pm : link
it's a wonder the country has been lost.

Everything the man said is 100% correct.

Liberals are the most hateful thing going, disgrace
great  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/28/2016 6:18 pm : link
another dupe out to make ridiculous comments.
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