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Mock the mock: Tonight's top 10 picks

Cruzin : 4/28/2016 10:48 am
Since the overwhelming majority of BBIers that ventured a guess on our first pick officially on the jlukes thread picked Myles Jack who is no longer an option for the Giants, I'm feeling no pressure here.


1- Rams - Carson Wentz - I refuse to believe that Jeff Fisher will choose the lesser QB to sell tickets the first year. Goff is not that big of a draw. Wentz is a dual threat QB which makes him a better fit into what Fisher has done in past drafts.

2 - Eagles - Jared Goff - glad the Eagles didn't get Wentz

3 -Chargers - Laremy Tunsil - Chargers O line was horrible, thanks to the Titans they get a pro bowl tackle.

4 -Cowboys - Jalen Ramsey - pretty much a lock here since either Goff or Wentz is no longer available. Cowboys aren't going to waste a pick on a RB, too many holes to fill.

5 - Jaguars - Myles Jack - they thought about it, decided not to, changed their mind, thought about it again, time running out, aw what the hell, WE'LL DO IT!

6 - Ravens - DeForrest Buckner - he was always their pick, mean, nasty, beats people up for fun. Fits very nicely here.

7 - 49ers - Connor Cook - Cook has been their QB of choice in the draft, meets more of the "Parcells Rules" than any other QB in the draft, the question was, when can they get him? With the Eagles holding on tightly to Bradford and Kaepernick likely to be traded in the next day or two and the Jets most likely to take Cook at 20, San Fran needs to grab Chip Kelly's QB now.

8 - Browns - Paxton Lynch - they want him, they need him, they may trade down to 12 with Miami so the Dolphins can grab Elliot, then they'll take him at 12.

9 - Buccaneers - Leonard Floyd - Giants fans react louder to this pick than the next one.

10 - Giants - Ronnie Stanley - I know, boring but much needed, OL is the most important piece right now. Really like Conklin here if Stanley is taken by San Fran if they decide not to reach for Cook.

11 - Bears - really don't care, I just switched to the Braves/Red Sox game and I'm pretty sick of mock drafts myself. Too much football in April and I haven't seen a pitch all night, back to baseball.

No I didn't forget about Joey Bosa, I think he is this year's surprise drop like a rock player. Raiders are very happy to take him at 14.
4 QBs  
mrvax : 4/28/2016 10:54 am : link
taken before pick #10 would be excellent. However, I don't see the Giants going Oline before round 2. Here I think the pick would be Elliott.
Would not be happy with Stanley at 10 at all  
CMicks3110 : 4/28/2016 10:55 am : link
And would bet a lot of money that he is not the pixk
Any O-lineman  
Randy in CT : 4/28/2016 10:55 am : link
over Floyd would be heaven at this point.
Why exactly are we  
OBJ31 : 4/28/2016 11:00 am : link
Passing on Bosa if there at 10????
You still stubbornly stick to Wentz instead  
Big Blue '56 : 4/28/2016 11:01 am : link
of Goff despite knowing Kroenke's history..Fisher only survived because of this move for continuity purposes, otherwise he's gone after this year, imo
Four QBs in the top ten?  
johnnyb : 4/28/2016 11:04 am : link
I do not see that happening. I can see "one dumb owner", but two?
RE: You still stubbornly stick to Wentz instead  
Cruzin : 4/28/2016 11:07 am : link
In comment 12927005 Big Blue '56 said:
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of Goff despite knowing Kroenke's history..Fisher only survived because of this move for continuity purposes, otherwise he's gone after this year, imo


Wentz is the QB for the future. Fisher has drafted Steve McNair and Vince Young. Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, Winston, Mariota, all mobile QBs. Times have changed, the QB has to be able to run. There's no way I'm going to believe Fisher sells out. What if Goff sucks? They sold a few tickets and are in the same boat all over again. It's got to be Wentz.
RE: Four QBs in the top ten?  
Cruzin : 4/28/2016 11:09 am : link
In comment 12927016 johnnyb said:
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I do not see that happening. I can see "one dumb owner", but two?


Depends on SF and Cook ( as stated above), I think Paxton Lynch is pretty much a sure bet to go to Cleveland.
RE: RE: You still stubbornly stick to Wentz instead  
Big Blue '56 : 4/28/2016 11:13 am : link
In comment 12927033 Cruzin said:
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In comment 12927005 Big Blue '56 said:


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of Goff despite knowing Kroenke's history..Fisher only survived because of this move for continuity purposes, otherwise he's gone after this year, imo



Wentz is the QB for the future. Fisher has drafted Steve McNair and Vince Young. Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, Winston, Mariota, all mobile QBs. Times have changed, the QB has to be able to run. There's no way I'm going to believe Fisher sells out. What if Goff sucks? They sold a few tickets and are in the same boat all over again. It's got to be Wentz.


Again, it's NOT about Fisher..It's about Kroenke and PR..It is not possible for Kroenke to pass on Goff, imho
RE: Why exactly are we  
Cruzin : 4/28/2016 11:13 am : link
In comment 12926995 OBJ31 said:
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Passing on Bosa if there at 10????


Because he's too slow to get to the QB and not strong enough to stop the run with a 300lb lineman on his shoulder at an elite level. He's not a bad player but not worth a 10 pick over Eli's protection and establishing a running game. If we take Bosa I'm OK with it but think we need to finish the offense then work on the defense.
RE: RE: RE: You still stubbornly stick to Wentz instead  
Cruzin : 4/28/2016 11:21 am : link
In comment 12927053 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 12927033 Cruzin said:


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In comment 12927005 Big Blue '56 said:


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of Goff despite knowing Kroenke's history..Fisher only survived because of this move for continuity purposes, otherwise he's gone after this year, imo
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Wentz is the QB for the future. Fisher has drafted Steve McNair and Vince Young. Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, Winston, Mariota, all mobile QBs. Times have changed, the QB has to be able to run. There's no way I'm going to believe Fisher sells out. What if Goff sucks? They sold a few tickets and are in the same boat all over again. It's got to be Wentz.



Again, it's NOT about Fisher..It's about Kroenke and PR..It is not possible for Kroenke to pass on Goff, imho


Tastes Great!

It's about the better QB for the future of the franchise. I was born at night but it wasn't last night. I understand the reasoning behind Goff, I just think that given the choice of a dual threat QB and a pocket passer, you have to take the mobile QB. There aren't any Bradys or Elis out there. Mobile is new normal in the NFL.
If teams are passing on Bosa it is character concerns IMO  
Patrick77 : 4/28/2016 11:29 am : link
not talent concerns. The comparisons for Bosa range from Ryan Kerrigan to Justin Smith. He is a 6'5 270 pound player that scouts can see dropping back in short zones, holding his own against the run, playing on the line and off. He supposedly fits 3-4 and 4-3 teams.

My guess is the guy likes drugs - hard drugs and teams are worried.
RE: Would not be happy with Stanley at 10 at all  
Cruzin : 4/28/2016 11:32 am : link
In comment 12926985 CMicks3110 said:
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And would bet a lot of money that he is not the pixk


Several pundits on NFL channel now saying he'll go at #3 to SD over Tunsil.

If Stanley's there at 10, he's the pick, save your money.
RE: If teams are passing on Bosa it is character concerns IMO  
Cruzin : 4/28/2016 11:37 am : link
In comment 12927123 Patrick77 said:
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not talent concerns. The comparisons for Bosa range from Ryan Kerrigan to Justin Smith. He is a 6'5 270 pound player that scouts can see dropping back in short zones, holding his own against the run, playing on the line and off. He supposedly fits 3-4 and 4-3 teams.

My guess is the guy likes drugs - hard drugs and teams are worried.


We could let Coughlin baby sit him, he's got nothing to do!

Yeah, I've heard about the party guy rumors, that could certainly add to the lack of interest but I believe Bosa is overrated, good player to have, just not at 10.
I'd be absolutely stunned if Conner Cook  
Section331 : 4/28/2016 11:37 am : link
goes that high. Many mocks don't even have him in the 1st round, with good reason. He's not that good.

I could see Bosa dropping if the party concerns are legit, but I can't see BOTH Boas and Elliott dropping out of the top 10.
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jeff57 : 4/28/2016 11:40 am : link
Goff
Wentz
Buckner
Ramsey
Bosa
Tunsil
Stanley
Elliott
Floyd
Conklin

RE: . . . .  
Cruzin : 4/28/2016 11:49 am : link
In comment 12927165 jeff57 said:
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Goff
Wentz
Buckner
Ramsey
Bosa
Tunsil
Stanley
Elliott
Floyd
Conklin


I wouldn't argue that prediction, could very well go exactly in that order. You must have Miami moving up for Elliot though, right? Can't see Cleveland going after Elliot.
Either way  
jeff57 : 4/28/2016 12:05 pm : link
Browns need to spice up their offense. And Elliott's a "local" guy.
I still don't  
Torn Tendon : 4/28/2016 1:06 pm : link
think 2 QBs go in the top ten. A 3rd QB might not go until the second round.
I believe that Wentz is the better prospect at QB  
GeorgeAdams33 : 4/28/2016 3:44 pm : link
Goff is too much like the guy they have. Rams pick Wentz and the Eagles redraft Nick Foles.
Is it too soon to start 2017 mocks?  
213374 : 4/28/2016 4:31 pm : link
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RE: I still don't  
Cruzin : 4/28/2016 5:51 pm : link
In comment 12927508 Torn Tendon said:
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think 2 QBs go in the top ten. A 3rd QB might not go until the second round.


Cook may not go in the first, he's a reach but from what I've read he's the 9ers guy and fits Kelly's system the best of the top 4 QBs. Cleveland is likely to draft Lynch, reports on Lynch have all been positive for the past 10 days. The Jets or Denver won't let him get out of the first round.

With Fitzpatrick holding out and Denver looking for either Kaepernick or Bradford but making no progress, I'd say the chance of Lynch not being drafted in the first are extremely slim.
RE: Is it too soon to start 2017 mocks?  
Cruzin : 4/28/2016 5:57 pm : link
In comment 12928218 213374 said:
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Who are you and what's your point?

I'd prefer you started a fish pun thread because it's highly doubtful you could actually post a mock for 2017. You're no Old Dirty Beckham.
Nice call  
YAJ2112 : 4/28/2016 8:17 pm : link
Rocky!
Where's your picks Yaj?  
Cruzin : 4/28/2016 8:23 pm : link

No picks, no comments.
Here's mine  
YAJ2112 : 4/28/2016 8:35 pm : link
1 Los Angeles (from Tennessee) - Jonathan Goff, er make that Jared Goff
2 Philadelphia (from Cleveland) - Carson Wentz
3 San Diego - Ronnie Stanley
4 Dallas - Jalen Ramsey
5 Jacksonville - Leonard Floyd
6 Baltimore - Laremy Tunsil
7 San Francisco - Paxton Lynch
8 Cleveland (from Philadelphia and Miami) - Joey Bosa
9 Tampa Bay - Vernon Hargreaves
10 New York Giants - Ezekiel Elliot
11 Chicago - Deforest Buckner
12 New Orleans - Sheldon Rankins
13 Miami (from Philadelphia) - Jack Conklin
14 Oakland - Myles Jack
15 Tennessee (from Los Angeles) - Laquon Treadwell
16 Detroit - A'shawn Robinson
17 Atlanta - Shaq Lawson
18 Indianapolis - Darron Lee
19 Buffalo - Robert Nkemdiche
20 New York Jets - Connor Cook
21 Washington - Andrew Billings
22 Houston - Corey Coleman
23 Minnesota - Josh Doctson
24 Cincinnati - Eli Apple
25 Pittsburgh - Jarran Reed
26 Seattle - Taylor Decker
27 Green Bay - Reggie Ragland
28 Kansas City - William Jackson
29 Arizona - Jason Spriggs
30 Carolina - Noah Spence
31 Denver - Cody Whitehair

Mock them all you want. I spent 5 minutes on them. But I did have Goff to the Rams though, aka the worst kept secret of the draft outside of the Giants interest in Floyd.
Fair enough  
Cruzin : 4/28/2016 8:39 pm : link

You're up 2-0
There goes Stanley, damn  
Cruzin : 4/28/2016 8:54 pm : link

Anybody got any right yet besides the 2QBs?
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