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Pompei: How war room decisions are made (John Mara quotes)

Defenderdawg : 4/28/2016 12:37 pm
"New York Giants owner John Mara empowers general manager Jerry Reese to have final say in most matters. But Mara sits in on draft meetings and studies the book of scouts' reports. And if there is a disagreement between Reese and the head coach, Mara casts the tiebreaker."
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I'm sure Bob Kraft  
HomerJones45 : 4/28/2016 6:00 pm : link
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It makes sense that the guy writing the checks and spending the money would get more involved as the team has continually failed to make the playoffs. He should. You don't want an absentee owner. You want an owner that cares. Nobody seemed to mind the ownership situation when things were going well.

spends a lot of time evaluating draft picks and reading scouting reports. The destruction of the Young-era setup started when Jerrah Lite wanted a Super Bowl in his brand-new stadium and was completed this year. We are back to 1964 organizationally.
RE: Right...  
steve in ky : 4/28/2016 6:19 pm : link
In comment 12928467 Modus Operandi said:
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As if you guys would stay out of the war room and stay silent were you the owner.

Please.


I'm sure you're right that many would but that has no relevance about whether or not it is the smartest way to run a football team.

When I was a little boy I used to fantasize that somehow I was given the NY Giants and I can't say that if I were to own a professional team of any kind that I wouldn't want to be more involved than I should be for no other reason than it would be a blast! It has to be a lot of mens childhood dreams to own their own team of some sort one day. So sure many men given that chance would likley find themselves making some decisions regardless of the fact that they wouldn't be the best person able to do so. And fans would rightly be critical of that.
RE: Right...  
Giants2012 : 4/28/2016 6:23 pm : link
In comment 12928467 Modus Operandi said:
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As if you guys would stay out of the war room and stay silent were you the owner.

Please.


Most owners stay out of the way.
I would think that  
Jay in Toronto : 4/28/2016 6:39 pm : link
Tisch wouldn't see the team as Maras' toy
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Modus Operandi : 4/28/2016 6:51 pm : link
In comment 12928543 Giants2012 said:
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In comment 12928467 Modus Operandi said:


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As if you guys would stay out of the war room and stay silent were you the owner.

Please.



Most owners stay out of the way.


You have no way of knowing that, and thusly pure speculation on yout part.
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Giants2012 : 4/28/2016 7:00 pm : link
In comment 12928603 Modus Operandi said:
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In comment 12928543 Giants2012 said:


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In comment 12928467 Modus Operandi said:


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As if you guys would stay out of the war room and stay silent were you the owner.

Please.



Most owners stay out of the way.



You have no way of knowing that, and thusly pure speculation on yout part.


and you have way of knowing if fans were owners if they wouldn't remain quiet too. Pure speculation on your part.

Your logic is impeccable  
Modus Operandi : 4/28/2016 7:14 pm : link
Airtight.

If you don't see the foolishness in knocking Chris/John Mara for being at the table during the decision making process - having spent their entire lives involved in the NFL - then I don't know what to tell you.

Each of them is infinitely more qualified than any of us amateur draftniks, and likely have more experience with contracts and players than many other FO execs around the league.

RE: Your logic is impeccable  
drkenneth : 4/28/2016 7:21 pm : link
In comment 12928639 Modus Operandi said:
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Airtight.

If you don't see the foolishness in knocking Chris/John Mara for being at the table during the decision making process - having spent their entire lives involved in the NFL - then I don't know what to tell you.

Each of them is infinitely more qualified than any of us amateur draftniks, and likely have more experience with contracts and players than many other FO execs around the league.


+1
RE: I'm sure Bob Kraft  
drkenneth : 4/28/2016 7:26 pm : link
In comment 12928498 HomerJones45 said:
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It makes sense that the guy writing the checks and spending the money would get more involved as the team has continually failed to make the playoffs. He should. You don't want an absentee owner. You want an owner that cares. Nobody seemed to mind the ownership situation when things were going well.


spends a lot of time evaluating draft picks and reading scouting reports. The destruction of the Young-era setup started when Jerrah Lite wanted a Super Bowl in his brand-new stadium and was completed this year. We are back to 1964 organizationally.


What's your story? Why are you so fucking dramatic? You spend half you time here bitching how Eli sucks, the owner is a "meddler", and Coughlin is the greatest HC the NFL has ever seen.

Please explain the "I hate the owner" schtick. I honestly want an answer from you. It's really silly. People still bitching because the team sucked in the FUCKING 70s. Get over it. Not all of us on this board are 70.

You sound like a crazy old man. (Which I'm pretty sure you are.)
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steve in ky : 4/28/2016 7:39 pm : link
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Each of them is infinitely more qualified than any of us amateur draftniks


What is the relevance of John Mara being more qualified than us fans to whether he should be actively involved in the draft selections?

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and likely have more experience with contracts and players than many other FO execs around the league.


I don't think most fans have a problem with his being involved in contracts.

However to assume that for no other reason than his father owned the team that he would also end up being one of the brightest football mind available is a stretch. Simple odds alone would dictate that from all the football people in the world there have to be a handful that would be far more talented at evaluating players than he. And maybe more importantly they would be held accountable if they weren't preforming at the highest level, where the owner is not, which then increase the likelihood that at some point he is under preforming.

On a side note and purely my personal experience and nothing more. The two times I worked for second or third generation ownership they were woefully bad at some of the things that were important to the position they inherited, and their businesses suffered for it.
RE: Your logic is impeccable  
Giants2012 : 4/28/2016 7:43 pm : link
In comment 12928639 Modus Operandi said:
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Airtight.

If you don't see the foolishness in knocking Chris/John Mara for being at the table during the decision making process - having spent their entire lives involved in the NFL - then I don't know what to tell you.



Quite a few kids have been around their father's company and rode the coattails of others and too many of these drafts have been epic fails for years with John at the the helm while Chris texts in his vote to his nephew from the horse track.

So much bullshit on this thread  
Larry in Pencilvania : 4/28/2016 7:59 pm : link
Most of you are guessing what goes on
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