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Les in TO : 4/28/2016 2:08 pm
Does anyone have any personal reccos for a standalone (not built in) grill, either propane or natural gas? Looking to use it pretty regularly and willing to invest in a good model that will last, though I don't want to overspend for features that aren't practical. For the most part, it will be used for steak, chicken, fish, and veggies not so much ribs. Most of the cooking will be for just the immediate family (4 people), from time to time we may have up to 12 people (but not usually more than that), so don't need anything with a massive surface area.
Genesis E330  
Sec 103 : 4/28/2016 2:11 pm : link
you can thank me later
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GiantFilthy : 4/28/2016 2:13 pm : link
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Genesis E330
Sec 103 : 2:11 pm : link : reply
you can thank me later

Yuuup.
Conversation starts and ends with a Weber  
Young Elijah : 4/28/2016 2:13 pm : link
despite your desire to go small, I would stick with the Genesis e-310 or 330 as would the rest of BBI I think. My family has 3 of them going on 8, 7, and 5 years with little maintenance involved and amazing performance.
Echo  
Young Elijah : 4/28/2016 2:13 pm : link
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I have a Summit  
NNJ Tom : 4/28/2016 2:16 pm : link
going on 12 years. Just installed all new burners and ignition for $100. Good as new for another 12 years.

Weber is the best.


As an aside, installing the burners and ignition module was simple thanks to Weber's outstanding engineering. Grill parts came from a website that had everything in a kit.
I like the S-330  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 2:16 pm : link
over the E-330 because I prefer the stainless steel longevity and less maintenance over the porcelain enameled cast iron (which does hold heat better).

But that's like picking the most attractive super model.
I got a Weber Spirit last Oct  
mgreenie03 : 4/28/2016 2:17 pm : link
Love it. I got the small E210. They have bigger models that might be better for you. The spirit has inserts for the grill to make it multi-purpose. The E210 was $400 but for me it was well worth it, a major upgrade from the CharBroil. I love the cast iron skillet insert for veggies and searing steaks or fish.
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Just curious  
tbonfig : 4/28/2016 2:18 pm : link
What are the quick points as to why Weber is so superior (asking the guy who has gone through a grill every two years or so).
RE: Genesis E330  
aimrocky : 4/28/2016 2:18 pm : link
In comment 12927691 Sec 103 said:
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you can thank me later


Also agree. They're definitely expensive but worth it. Mine is going on 5 years and runs like a charm.
I got the $499 Weber last summer  
UConn4523 : 4/28/2016 2:20 pm : link
Spirit 300something, can't remember exactly. Just do it and don't look back. Haven't needed their customer service yet but I heard they are top notch.

Advice, Lowes does free shipping and install. The kicker is they usually have a 20% coupon out there and while it excludes Weber, just take the coupon to a younger cashier who looks like they won't care. I tried it and it worked, got it for $419 and also got the $50 cover for $40, all with free shipping and install.
RE: I got a Weber Spirit last Oct  
Chef : 4/28/2016 2:20 pm : link
In comment 12927712 mgreenie03 said:
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Love it. I got the small E210. They have bigger models that might be better for you. The spirit has inserts for the grill to make it multi-purpose. The E210 was $400 but for me it was well worth it, a major upgrade from the CharBroil. I love the cast iron skillet insert for veggies and searing steaks or fish. Link - ( New Window )


I have a 6 year old Weber Spirit and it has never missed a beat.. I also entertain frequently of over 10 people and it is big enough being the smallest of the Weber line.
RE: Just curious  
jcn56 : 4/28/2016 2:24 pm : link
In comment 12927715 tbonfig said:
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What are the quick points as to why Weber is so superior (asking the guy who has gone through a grill every two years or so).


The quality of materials and workmanship is a good deal better than the vast majority of the market. You take a big box stainless steel grill and compare to a Weber; the steel will be an inferior grade to the Weber (check with a magnet, usually a good way beyond plain thickness). Cuts won't be rounded, you'll find jagged edges or poorly milled material.

Alarmingly, a lot of the other grills have fire boxes that are porcelain coated that you can assure yourself will rust out within 2-3 years.

They usually put a bit more thought into the design as well, but that's a bonus. They've already made the sale at that point.

I have a 14 year old Genesis that I was going to dump, that I decided to refurb and take to my seasonal home. It's good as new after a pressure washing and new burners and grates. Beats spending another $900 for the same model now (I paid $600 for it back then).
RE: Just curious  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 2:24 pm : link
In comment 12927715 tbonfig said:
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What are the quick points as to why Weber is so superior (asking the guy who has gone through a grill every two years or so).


I was in the same boat. I'd get a new char-broil or sunbeam or kenmore grill every 2 - 3 years. My theory was food wouldn't taste better on an Weber grill, and it's true. They were in the $199 or so range. Year 1 usually fine and I felt vindicated. After the first winter on most the push start stopped working and i'd get my eyebrows singed or nearly die starting it with a long lighter.

then i'd get hot spots on the grill and I'd need to constantly move food around on the grill and watch it constantly to make sure it didn't burn and then move food into the hot spot that needed heating and it was almost like the high, med, low dials were meaningless, once it was lit it was on high or not at all based on the area of the grill.

then the parts underneath like the flavor bars (if they had them or coils would corrode and gradually the grill would be useless or a major hassle. they all had a 2 - 3 year max lifetime.

with my weber (now 8 years old) the push start has never failed, every single part is replaceable (though I've only had to replace the cover) with official weber parts, no hot spots and it cooks very reliably and consistently.
Tbone- Its really simple  
Young Elijah : 4/28/2016 2:25 pm : link
They are amazingly durable- I lived in a town home for 4 years, and left mine out in the elements albeit covered each winter...still looks like new

All parts are simple to replace and clean- I spent an hour taking mine apart 2 weeks ago, scrubbed and scraped every surface, purchased new grates and flavorizer bars (once you have a Weber youll understand this) for $100 and it literally looks and feels band new...again 5 years later.

And then financially- ROI. I say, my Weber ($800 ticket price, and $100 of maintenance every 5 years) will last me 20 years, so I will spend $1200 on my amazing machine over 2 decades....If you throw away 3 Shitty ones in that time were even, except my steaks likely look and taste better :)

When you start talking about gadget add ons (I have the sick rotisserie attachment) customer service (they sent my mom a new cover and igniter 6 years after purchase with 0 questions asked) its hands down the best machine money can buy. I mean that seriously, Webers and Passport Escort Radars are the 2 products I swear by and retain their value better then some government bonds. Get one, today.
I have 2 Webers  
AP in Halfmoon : 4/28/2016 2:27 pm : link
Over 10 years old. I wouldn't any other brand
One word  
bluesince56 : 4/28/2016 2:28 pm : link
Weber
MHP natural gas  
JoeBDieHard : 4/28/2016 2:39 pm : link
have it for 20 years, replaced the burner and grates once
Weber grills  
Chef : 4/28/2016 2:41 pm : link
also maintain even temperature very well
Ahhh  
Pork Chop : 4/28/2016 2:42 pm : link
Weber grills. The one and only topic that BBI can all agree on. It's a good day for this thread.
I'm in the minority around here but want to give another prespective  
jimmypage : 4/28/2016 2:43 pm : link
Charbroil Infared is it coming from standpoints of cooking experience and longevity. I'm one that wouldn't touch a Weber if it was installed free. I've put them head to head (my dad has one) and there is no comparison for actual cooking. The Weber is a nice build and will last forever but how it cooks is my main concern. My poor Dad moved and just let his to a young couple that bought the house, before he could get into his new house they reciprocated and sent him a new Weber (he left them a bunch of stuff). He wanted to get Infared. I will say if I was going to ride a grill down a big hill I would do so on a Weber-it is a stronger build. However I'm very anal about my grilling and keep mine in the garage so that it doesn't get bugs or pollen on it. So that may be why Charbroil has lasted so long. Plus I grill year around and hate grill covers.
RE: I'm in the minority around here but want to give another prespective  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 3:04 pm : link
In comment 12927799 jimmypage said:
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Charbroil Infared is it coming from standpoints of cooking experience and longevity. I'm one that wouldn't touch a Weber if it was installed free. I've put them head to head (my dad has one) and there is no comparison for actual cooking. The Weber is a nice build and will last forever but how it cooks is my main concern. My poor Dad moved and just let his to a young couple that bought the house, before he could get into his new house they reciprocated and sent him a new Weber (he left them a bunch of stuff). He wanted to get Infared. I will say if I was going to ride a grill down a big hill I would do so on a Weber-it is a stronger build. However I'm very anal about my grilling and keep mine in the garage so that it doesn't get bugs or pollen on it. So that may be why Charbroil has lasted so long. Plus I grill year around and hate grill covers.


Using a gas grill in the garage is a hazard and a bad idea for many reasons. Unless you're saying you wheel it in and out of the garage to use it, that sounds like a lot of work.
I got the weber genesis with the sideburner off craigslist  
mattlawson : 4/28/2016 3:46 pm : link
with the spit and rotisserie kit. the sideburner does not work all that well, the grill is fantastic otherwise.
I just had a new Weber S-330 delivered  
Giant John : 4/28/2016 3:53 pm : link
Going to fire it up this weekend! Very much looking forward to breaking it in.
I'll echo  
ctc in ftmyers : 4/28/2016 4:11 pm : link
the Weber S-330.

Got it on the advice this board a few years ago.

My wife has even used it to cook in a couple competitions.

You can't go wrong.
I have a small Weber  
VTDAD : 4/28/2016 4:15 pm : link
and I really like it. Works well & easy to maintain. Use it all winter as well as "grilling season". However, if you have deep pockets and a desire for the very best....check out Vermont Castings.
thanks for the tips!  
Les in TO : 4/28/2016 4:34 pm : link
any thoughts on natural gas vs propane?
RE: thanks for the tips!  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2016 4:39 pm : link
In comment 12928233 Les in TO said:
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any thoughts on natural gas vs propane?


natural gas is a no-brainer if you have it already coming in to your house and can connect it easily.

only drawback I had with it is I rented a house with a natural gas grill and i left the gas (and the grill) on after using it (for like a week), huge gas bill and probably a risk of some other danger. at least if you leave propane on the tank will just run out.

but given the choice of natural gas or propane, natural gas is an easy one for me.
Thanks for the responses guys  
tbonfig : 4/28/2016 4:40 pm : link
Looks like I'll be looking for a Weber.

For those of you with built-ins or outdoor kitchens, how does Lynx compare to Weber? A lot of the appliance stores I've been in seem to highlight the Lynx brand for those situations - curious what everyone's thoughts are on that
Of course, if you buy it from Home Depot  
Giants2012 : 4/28/2016 5:33 pm : link
it might rust out by August.

The store sells nothing but shiat
RE: Thanks for the responses guys  
jcn56 : 4/28/2016 5:37 pm : link
In comment 12928258 tbonfig said:
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Looks like I'll be looking for a Weber.

For those of you with built-ins or outdoor kitchens, how does Lynx compare to Weber? A lot of the appliance stores I've been in seem to highlight the Lynx brand for those situations - curious what everyone's thoughts are on that


I was looking for a used grill before I decided to refurb my old Genesis, and came across one on Craigslist for a good price. Original was $3750, asking was $1400 and negotiable. It seemed very sturdy - but I couldn't find much in the way of owner reviews online, and I couldn't figure out why it was so much more expensive than the comparable Weber. Ended up passing for those two reasons.
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