to watch everyone ride the roller coaster. I just get a few guys in mind I like and hope we get one, but to think that anyone has nailed the pick before the Giants pick is just silly because you can't even guarantee the player will be there when they pick.
But in all seriousness, this team needs so much help I doubt I'll be throwing my remote tonight.
Slade may have picked Treadwell, but so has Greg Cossell. Treadwell is almost a perfect WR for todays NFL minus his less than stellar 40 time. Which is probably the most overvalued evaluation of a WR.
I have no idea if slade is right or not, but I stand by what I've said today...looking at this roster and the lack of activity at WR this offseason, one has to think WR is in play.
"This is a big bodied guy. Playmaker. Goes up, snatches the football. Runs the full route tree, lot of heart. Competitor, and we love his motor. Makes plays all over the field. We aren't concerned with the time. He's got football speed. This is a football player here."
I have no idea if slade is right or not, but I stand by what I've said today...looking at this roster and the lack of activity at WR this offseason, one has to think WR is in play.
They could take Shepherd or Boyd at 40 if they want one that badly.
can be had after a trade down. No reason to take him at #10. Now watch him be the pick.
Meh, people love to say stuff like that but there are no guarantees. I'm not in the camp that feels he is a huge reach at 10.
A trade to 15 would be a good move even if Treadwell is off the board there are a multitude of players I'd be happy with at 15, Conklin, Decker, Doctson, Dodd, Coleman, Nkemdiche.
After watching an interview with him he seems very mature and professional. He attacks the ball, is physical and a good blocker. It would be a solid pick IMO but I would love a trade back to 15 and still get him if he is the target.
I have no idea if slade is right or not, but I stand by what I've said today...looking at this roster and the lack of activity at WR this offseason, one has to think WR is in play.
Agree and if he's your guy, a guy you believe in to be a future all pro for the next 10 years you do not care where he's "mocked". You get your fucking guy and don't play games if you believe it. Yea, trade back and grab him like it's so easy and no one could trade up for him after you trade back.
"This is a big bodied guy. Playmaker. Goes up, snatches the football. Runs the full route tree, lot of heart. Competitor, and we love his motor. Makes plays all over the field. We aren't concerned with the time. He's got football speed. This is a football player here."
most of the guys before 20 will all be grouped together. You just have to hit on your guy. If they take Treadwell at 10 and he's great, who cares if they reached.
Treadwell is their guy, Reese isn’t going to risk losing him for an extra third. I would, but that’s just because I’m not as high on him as others. Reese will be getting the top receiver on his board.
Guy has great hands. Makes some OBJ like catches. Always fighting for the ball and has a knack for getting open despite not having top flight speed. And....pretty good blocker. If he's the pick. I'll be happy. OBJ, Treadwell and Maybe a healthy Cruz? Can you say best WRs in the league?
You can't argue that the Giants don't need another WR Â
opposite Beckham. They clearly do. However, given the strengths an weaknesses of this draft, it sure seems that they could more easily get a quality receiver in the 2nd or 3rd unlike maybe a pass rusher or an OT.
Not only DL. Plenty of good secondary players at both CB and S. Probably not a strong LB option but we know the Giants tend do devalue that position. I really think it's going to be Conklin.
And I don't discount that he is not a burner, but just consider this for a moment.
Separation is not created off straight line speed, it's the change of direction (agility) and route running skill that generates separation. By all accounts, Treadwell is a good route runner and is extremely quick for a 6'2" WR. His negatives are his 40 and his vertical, but he has long arms and sticky hands. There is a lot to like with this kid. This is a case of trust your eyes, not the 40 time. On paper Randle was a mode explosive WR than Treadwell. Watch highlights of the two p!Ayers. Anyone think the measurements translated into reality? No they didn't, because Randle was a subpar route runner (didn't finish his routes) and rarely won the battle in tight spaces (not agile). Also Randle never seemed to know how to use his large frame to his benefit. He was a 6'2" WR that p!ayed like a 5'9" WR. Treadwell is a big, physical, agile, polished WR with a comparative streak. What's not to like?
Guy has great hands. Makes some OBJ like catches. Always fighting for the ball and has a knack for getting open despite not having top flight speed. And....pretty good blocker. If he's the pick. I'll be happy. OBJ, Treadwell and Maybe a healthy Cruz? Can you say best WRs in the league?
And I don't discount that he is not a burner, but just consider this for a moment.
Separation is not created off straight line speed, it's the change of direction (agility) and route running skill that generates separation. By all accounts, Treadwell is a good route runner and is extremely quick for a 6'2" WR. His negatives are his 40 and his vertical, but he has long arms and sticky hands. There is a lot to like with this kid. This is a case of trust your eyes, not the 40 time. On paper Randle was a mode explosive WR than Treadwell. Watch highlights of the two p!Ayers. Anyone think the measurements translated into reality? No they didn't, because Randle was a subpar route runner (didn't finish his routes) and rarely won the battle in tight spaces (not agile). Also Randle never seemed to know how to use his large frame to his benefit. He was a 6'2" WR that p!ayed like a 5'9" WR. Treadwell is a big, physical, agile, polished WR with a comparative streak. What's not to like?
He also plays the game like he wants to rip your fucking head off, which I love.
If we somehow picked up an extra 2nd or 3rd AND got Treadwell, I'd do backflips.
For the record, I'd also be just fine taking him at 10
RE: You can't argue that the Giants don't need another WR Â
opposite Beckham. They clearly do. However, given the strengths an weaknesses of this draft, it sure seems that they could more easily get a quality receiver in the 2nd or 3rd unlike maybe a pass rusher or an OT.
Good point...do the Giants think Treadwell is a cut above the rest? And can be a star? That's the question.
what could the Giants get back for trading down to 13-15-range?
A 2nd or a 3rd and a 5th.
This may ultimately be achievable if you have a really aggressive buyer, but is not suppo
rted by the chart
In all likelihood it would have to be a very aggressive offer to coax Reese to trade down. The chart suggest a third rounder is fair compensation. I don't think they'd trade down for that
"playmaker" is a word that we'll see in this draft. Guys like Treadwell don't come along often. You can get a slot receiver like Shephard pretty much every year.
time of 4.63. But that’s not his game. He dominates defenders physically, not with speed. Jarvis Landry ran a 4.77. Boldin a 4.72. Those players seem like exceptions. You’d have to hope Treadwell could be one as well. Gruesome leg injury, but that was 2014, and he definitely came back strong last year. Hard worker. Leader. Reese may think he’s Dez Bryant without the attitude, or a better version of Hakeem Nicks.
In 2011, the New York Giants won a Super Bowl with a rapidly deteriorating offensive line (dead last running the ball, tackles who were getting beat on the pass rush), a terrible defense, and all-star play from their QB and two WR's. OL is very important. But the Giants NEED another top flight WR.
In 2011, the New York Giants won a Super Bowl with a rapidly deteriorating offensive line (dead last running the ball, tackles who were getting beat on the pass rush), a terrible defense, and all-star play from their QB and two WR's. OL is very important. But the Giants NEED another top flight WR.
Ideally, they need to come out of the first three rounds with a starting WR and RT. Whether they will we will know by Saturday.
RE: If Treadwell was Dez 2.0 he isn't going mid first. He's Â
Positives:
Elusive, great first step, excellent coverage skills, sheds blocks easily, can't be pushed off the point of attack. Can disrupt offenses with his ability to get in the quarterback's face.
Negatives:
Disappears for long stretches in games, not a sure tackler, avoids contact, unimpressive measurables. Needs to add weight for the pro game.
The Giants aren't going to take an OT in rounds 1 or 2. They are going to trade a conditional 2017 pick for Anthony Davis. Just speculation on my part but I remember they liked him back in the draft and he is young and would come pretty cheap. Also Reese is likely to make a bold move since he is on the hot seat and you don't get a chance to acquire a talent like Davis often for such a low price.
"Weaknesses:
Route running is still suspect
Rounds off digs and deep outs
Not very fast
Lacks deep speed
Could be more elusive
Doesn't always generate maximum YAC
Needs to eat up cushion more quickly in off man
Needs to work on reading coverages as he does not always identify the zone
A little sluggish coming out of breaks"
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And I don't discount that he is not a burner, but just consider this for a moment.
Separation is not created off straight line speed, it's the change of direction (agility) and route running skill that generates separation. By all accounts, Treadwell is a good route runner and is extremely quick for a 6'2" WR. His negatives are his 40 and his vertical, but he has long arms and sticky hands. There is a lot to like with this kid. This is a case of trust your eyes, not the 40 time. On paper Randle was a mode explosive WR than Treadwell. Watch highlights of the two p!Ayers. Anyone think the measurements translated into reality? No they didn't, because Randle was a subpar route runner (didn't finish his routes) and rarely won the battle in tight spaces (not agile). Also Randle never seemed to know how to use his large frame to his benefit. He was a 6'2" WR that p!ayed like a 5'9" WR. Treadwell is a big, physical, agile, polished WR with a comparative streak. What's not to like?
He also plays the game like he wants to rip your fucking head off, which I love.
If we somehow picked up an extra 2nd or 3rd AND got Treadwell, I'd do backflips.
For the record, I'd also be just fine taking him at 10
If you wish to pair Beckham with a physical guy, Treadwell is a good match. The kid is only 20 could become a beast. Certainly, will never call him soft. I've grown to appreciate his game but would be some what surprised if NYG pick him at 10.
Strange draft very few elite type players (who don't have an injury concern). Mostly it's players that have elite qualities. So who knows?
In all seriousness tho, if there was a year for smoke, this is the one. Our best value is in players falling and there is a team very willing to trade just in front of us. Possibly 2. If floyd and hargreaves are still on the board and chicago wants to leapfrog us the bucks might be open to that if elliot is going to be the pick
Floyd then Conklin-
The giants like treadwell but the grade is Lower - is my guess
Hitdog
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you initially suggest that they loved Ramsey and Hargreaves but felt they would be gone? Thusly Floyd was the target?
Do you expect Floyd if Hargreaves is on the board?
After free agency hardgreavea was the first name floated early- as they want another Db.
That was mega early
Since then it's been Floyd and then the "Conklin over Stanley" and the "Jack is not in mix". Then "Elliott moving up but unsure where" - and they like treadwell but not at 10.
All of that leads to today where it's Floyd then Conklin - in my humbled view
After free agency hardgreavea was the first name floated early- as they want another Db.
That was mega early
Since then it's been Floyd and then the "Conklin over Stanley" and the "Jack is not in mix". Then "Elliott moving up but unsure where" - and they like treadwell but not at 10.
All of that leads to today where it's Floyd then Conklin - in my humbled view
Thrilly May Hayes supports this info. It's true. It's the world we live. Get on board, fellas.
After free agency hardgreavea was the first name floated early- as they want another Db.
That was mega early
Since then it's been Floyd and then the "Conklin over Stanley" and the "Jack is not in mix". Then "Elliott moving up but unsure where" - and they like treadwell but not at 10.
All of that leads to today where it's Floyd then Conklin - in my humbled view
Realistically I think we agree on Floyd. I'd put it at 70% that he is the pick. I have absolutely heard his name as being in the top of their "2nd tier" and probably is the guy right now the Giants anticipate grabbing.
The only thing that could throw a wrench into it is if Jack is available (or Buckner or Tunsil somehow).
Hitdog and I are on the same page except I keep hearing NYG don't want another 1st round OL to pay down the road and want to use Pugh, Richburg and Flowers as the base.
As for Jack maybe hitdog sources don't think he will be there or maybe they are in the Ranaan camp who say he isn't even an option.
Literally nobody knows. We will soon though!!!!!
And FYI. It is entirely possible I'm being fed bad info. I was always honest about that I don't know Jerry Reese personally but I just don't see why a friend of mine from college would purposely give me info. He doesn't know about BBI or my alter ego TLG.
And I'm still hearing Ramsey, Tunsil, Jack/Buckner.
That's nice and all, but come on! Not one of those guys will be available at 10. Jack is the only slim possibility. Almost no chance, but if there, run to take him.
After free agency hardgreavea was the first name floated early- as they want another Db.
That was mega early
Since then it's been Floyd and then the "Conklin over Stanley" and the "Jack is not in mix". Then "Elliott moving up but unsure where" - and they like treadwell but not at 10.
All of that leads to today where it's Floyd then Conklin - in my humbled view
Realistically I think we agree on Floyd. I'd put it at 70% that he is the pick. I have absolutely heard his name as being in the top of their "2nd tier" and probably is the guy right now the Giants anticipate grabbing.
The only thing that could throw a wrench into it is if Jack is available (or Buckner or Tunsil somehow).
Hitdog and I are on the same page except I keep hearing NYG don't want another 1st round OL to pay down the road and want to use Pugh, Richburg and Flowers as the base.
As for Jack maybe hitdog sources don't think he will be there or maybe they are in the Ranaan camp who say he isn't even an option.
Literally nobody knows. We will soon though!!!!!
And FYI. It is entirely possible I'm being fed bad info. I was always honest about that I don't know Jerry Reese personally but I just don't see why a friend of mine from college would purposely give me info. He doesn't know about BBI or my alter ego TLG.
Your information and that of all the other “asshats” is very much appreciated. This is true regardless of who is right or wrong. As you note, we’ll know soon anyways.
I don't like taking him this early, but if he is the guy you want you take him at 10 and you don't get cute with trade downs.
I can see waiting on O-Line with so many picks used early recently. I see a ton of value on the D-Line in later rounds. We have been quiet in FA with WRs...not that we didn't sign anyone but we really didn't even look at anyone IIRC.
The grinder in me wants Conklin, but another poster on another thread said something that I agreed with. Do you really need a top RT in a quick hitting WC offense? Probably not...Tredwell in Round One. Devon Cajuste Round 5. No more Red Zone problems...
im thinking Jack...the smoke came out yesterday the Giants wouldn't pick him. Now the smoke has come out Floyd & Conklin are the picks.
Giants just want Jack to fall into there laps at 10...thats my best guess.
Of course it's all ball bearings these days.
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im thinking Jack...the smoke came out yesterday the Giants wouldn't pick him. Now the smoke has come out Floyd & Conklin are the picks.
Giants just want Jack to fall into there laps at 10...thats my best guess.
Either would be fine with me
Post some vague jibberish, watch us dance like monkeys, wait two months for people to forget he's wrong, repeat.
+10000
I expect a lot of bullcrap on draft day, but this year takes the cake.
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I agree with this and possibly even a third option.
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I agree with this and possibly even a third option.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt last time. Now it's apparent he is full of shit.
“The bullshit is piling up so fast you need wings to stay above it."
But in all seriousness, this team needs so much help I doubt I'll be throwing my remote tonight.
Slade may have picked Treadwell, but so has Greg Cossell. Treadwell is almost a perfect WR for todays NFL minus his less than stellar 40 time. Which is probably the most overvalued evaluation of a WR.
Cmon, fellas, it's so simple! Maybe you need a refresher course.
Ya never know - there can be a lot of surprises. Treadwell could be grouped in with their second tier - making him a logical choice at 10.
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I'm there with you brother, I'm all rumored out.
Me as well, I find the responses to asshats funny but could not care less otherwise. IMO, Most of them are compensating for something
No, no make that Quaker State.
They could take Shepherd or Boyd at 40 if they want one that badly.
I wonder if he has heard something .........
I wonder if he has heard something .........
No...I'm just putting 2 and 2 together. If Reese goes into the season without another major weapon at WR, that's not good.
Meh, people love to say stuff like that but there are no guarantees. I'm not in the camp that feels he is a huge reach at 10.
A trade to 15 would be a good move even if Treadwell is off the board there are a multitude of players I'd be happy with at 15, Conklin, Decker, Doctson, Dodd, Coleman, Nkemdiche.
Hitdog has had a much better batting average - 1.000 during free agency.
Eric, my hypothetical and in some ways ideal scenario given that I want Reese to get more picks is:
Jags take Floyd
Titans trade with Browns and nab Conklin
Dolphins trade up to 10, grab Elliot
Giants take Treadwell at #13.
Agree and if he's your guy, a guy you believe in to be a future all pro for the next 10 years you do not care where he's "mocked". You get your fucking guy and don't play games if you believe it. Yea, trade back and grab him like it's so easy and no one could trade up for him after you trade back.
Neither is Treadwell.
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Neither is Treadwell.
He's pretty damn close..
That is exactly what he would say.
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Those two aren't Dez Bryant.
Neither is Treadwell.
Not only do you see Treadwell's future, you also know exactly who will be available at 40? What else do you see in your crystal ball?
+1
A third rounder most likely. Unless Tennessee is really desperate And gives up a 2nd.
A 2nd or a 3rd and a 5th.
There isn't a first round pick we WON'T hate.
There isn't a first round pick we WON'T hate.
Goff?
Not only DL. Plenty of good secondary players at both CB and S. Probably not a strong LB option but we know the Giants tend do devalue that position. I really think it's going to be Conklin.
Separation is not created off straight line speed, it's the change of direction (agility) and route running skill that generates separation. By all accounts, Treadwell is a good route runner and is extremely quick for a 6'2" WR. His negatives are his 40 and his vertical, but he has long arms and sticky hands. There is a lot to like with this kid. This is a case of trust your eyes, not the 40 time. On paper Randle was a mode explosive WR than Treadwell. Watch highlights of the two p!Ayers. Anyone think the measurements translated into reality? No they didn't, because Randle was a subpar route runner (didn't finish his routes) and rarely won the battle in tight spaces (not agile). Also Randle never seemed to know how to use his large frame to his benefit. He was a 6'2" WR that p!ayed like a 5'9" WR. Treadwell is a big, physical, agile, polished WR with a comparative streak. What's not to like?
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what could the Giants get back for trading down to 13-15-range?
A 2nd or a 3rd and a 5th.
This may ultimately be achievable if you have a really aggressive buyer, but is not supported by the chart
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on a receiver as the #10 pick.
I wonder if he has heard something .........
No...I'm just putting 2 and 2 together. If Reese goes into the season without another major weapon at WR, that's not good.
You can also say that the Giants tried to get a RT but failed so RT may be the pick at 10.
Singing my song Duke
Separation is not created off straight line speed, it's the change of direction (agility) and route running skill that generates separation. By all accounts, Treadwell is a good route runner and is extremely quick for a 6'2" WR. His negatives are his 40 and his vertical, but he has long arms and sticky hands. There is a lot to like with this kid. This is a case of trust your eyes, not the 40 time. On paper Randle was a mode explosive WR than Treadwell. Watch highlights of the two p!Ayers. Anyone think the measurements translated into reality? No they didn't, because Randle was a subpar route runner (didn't finish his routes) and rarely won the battle in tight spaces (not agile). Also Randle never seemed to know how to use his large frame to his benefit. He was a 6'2" WR that p!ayed like a 5'9" WR. Treadwell is a big, physical, agile, polished WR with a comparative streak. What's not to like?
He also plays the game like he wants to rip your fucking head off, which I love.
If we somehow picked up an extra 2nd or 3rd AND got Treadwell, I'd do backflips.
For the record, I'd also be just fine taking him at 10
Good point...do the Giants think Treadwell is a cut above the rest? And can be a star? That's the question.
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what could the Giants get back for trading down to 13-15-range?
A 2nd or a 3rd and a 5th.
This may ultimately be achievable if you have a really aggressive buyer, but is not suppo
rted by the chart
In all likelihood it would have to be a very aggressive offer to coax Reese to trade down. The chart suggest a third rounder is fair compensation. I don't think they'd trade down for that
That's pretty much exactly what he is...to me anyway.
Ideally, they need to come out of the first three rounds with a starting WR and RT. Whether they will we will know by Saturday.
False - Bryant went 24th in the first round. He didn't come without flaws.
Elusive, great first step, excellent coverage skills, sheds blocks easily, can't be pushed off the point of attack. Can disrupt offenses with his ability to get in the quarterback's face.
Negatives:
Disappears for long stretches in games, not a sure tackler, avoids contact, unimpressive measurables. Needs to add weight for the pro game.
IMO, too risky at pick number ten.
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a top 5 pick. That's not how he's being scouted.
False - Bryant went 24th in the first round. He didn't come without flaws.
Swing and a miss champ. Not the point at all.
I believe Hitdog has been saying Floyd all along.
1 Floyd
2 Conklin or Elliot
Excuse me?
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I am sure it was posted several times but i missed it. Thanks
I believe Hitdog has been saying Floyd all along.
1 Floyd
2 Conklin or Elliot
Thank you
Route running is still suspect
Rounds off digs and deep outs
Not very fast
Lacks deep speed
Could be more elusive
Doesn't always generate maximum YAC
Needs to eat up cushion more quickly in off man
Needs to work on reading coverages as he does not always identify the zone
A little sluggish coming out of breaks"
Read more at http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010dbryant.php#pMlEDXxdljDOAOV4.99
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And I don't discount that he is not a burner, but just consider this for a moment.
Separation is not created off straight line speed, it's the change of direction (agility) and route running skill that generates separation. By all accounts, Treadwell is a good route runner and is extremely quick for a 6'2" WR. His negatives are his 40 and his vertical, but he has long arms and sticky hands. There is a lot to like with this kid. This is a case of trust your eyes, not the 40 time. On paper Randle was a mode explosive WR than Treadwell. Watch highlights of the two p!Ayers. Anyone think the measurements translated into reality? No they didn't, because Randle was a subpar route runner (didn't finish his routes) and rarely won the battle in tight spaces (not agile). Also Randle never seemed to know how to use his large frame to his benefit. He was a 6'2" WR that p!ayed like a 5'9" WR. Treadwell is a big, physical, agile, polished WR with a comparative streak. What's not to like?
He also plays the game like he wants to rip your fucking head off, which I love.
If we somehow picked up an extra 2nd or 3rd AND got Treadwell, I'd do backflips.
For the record, I'd also be just fine taking him at 10
If you wish to pair Beckham with a physical guy, Treadwell is a good match. The kid is only 20 could become a beast. Certainly, will never call him soft. I've grown to appreciate his game but would be some what surprised if NYG pick him at 10.
Strange draft very few elite type players (who don't have an injury concern). Mostly it's players that have elite qualities. So who knows?
I like Sheppard, but they need a big target. They already have Cruz and Harris, how many slot receivers do they need?
The giants like treadwell but the grade is Lower - is my guess
The giants like treadwell but the grade is Lower - is my guess
Thanks Hitdog
The giants like treadwell but the grade is Lower - is my guess
Hitdog
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you initially suggest that they loved Ramsey and Hargreaves but felt they would be gone? Thusly Floyd was the target?
Do you expect Floyd if Hargreaves is on the board?
Take care of gook on these windows.
Thanks TLG
After free agency hardgreavea was the first name floated early- as they want another Db.
That was mega early
Since then it's been Floyd and then the "Conklin over Stanley" and the "Jack is not in mix". Then "Elliott moving up but unsure where" - and they like treadwell but not at 10.
All of that leads to today where it's Floyd then Conklin - in my humbled view
After free agency hardgreavea was the first name floated early- as they want another Db.
That was mega early
Since then it's been Floyd and then the "Conklin over Stanley" and the "Jack is not in mix". Then "Elliott moving up but unsure where" - and they like treadwell but not at 10.
All of that leads to today where it's Floyd then Conklin - in my humbled view
Thrilly May Hayes supports this info. It's true. It's the world we live. Get on board, fellas.
Info sharper than a Mo Vaughn single to right.
Slade is an imposter.
LimerickGuy is getting fed bad info.
I guess the Giants are more confident than I am that Ramsey and Tunsil will be an option at 10.
If that happens, I think they go Treadwell.
After free agency hardgreavea was the first name floated early- as they want another Db.
That was mega early
Since then it's been Floyd and then the "Conklin over Stanley" and the "Jack is not in mix". Then "Elliott moving up but unsure where" - and they like treadwell but not at 10.
All of that leads to today where it's Floyd then Conklin - in my humbled view
Realistically I think we agree on Floyd. I'd put it at 70% that he is the pick. I have absolutely heard his name as being in the top of their "2nd tier" and probably is the guy right now the Giants anticipate grabbing.
The only thing that could throw a wrench into it is if Jack is available (or Buckner or Tunsil somehow).
Hitdog and I are on the same page except I keep hearing NYG don't want another 1st round OL to pay down the road and want to use Pugh, Richburg and Flowers as the base.
As for Jack maybe hitdog sources don't think he will be there or maybe they are in the Ranaan camp who say he isn't even an option.
Literally nobody knows. We will soon though!!!!!
And FYI. It is entirely possible I'm being fed bad info. I was always honest about that I don't know Jerry Reese personally but I just don't see why a friend of mine from college would purposely give me info. He doesn't know about BBI or my alter ego TLG.
Imagine, Conklin then Treadwell.
I'm trusting hitdog here, but I'm hoping that Floyd is off the board by 10.
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That's nice and all, but come on! Not one of those guys will be available at 10. Jack is the only slim possibility. Almost no chance, but if there, run to take him.
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I thought it was all ball bearings.
Take care of gook on these windows.
And get me 10 quarts of anti-freeze...preferably Prestone
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Saying that name is irrelevant at 10
After free agency hardgreavea was the first name floated early- as they want another Db.
That was mega early
Since then it's been Floyd and then the "Conklin over Stanley" and the "Jack is not in mix". Then "Elliott moving up but unsure where" - and they like treadwell but not at 10.
All of that leads to today where it's Floyd then Conklin - in my humbled view
Realistically I think we agree on Floyd. I'd put it at 70% that he is the pick. I have absolutely heard his name as being in the top of their "2nd tier" and probably is the guy right now the Giants anticipate grabbing.
The only thing that could throw a wrench into it is if Jack is available (or Buckner or Tunsil somehow).
Hitdog and I are on the same page except I keep hearing NYG don't want another 1st round OL to pay down the road and want to use Pugh, Richburg and Flowers as the base.
As for Jack maybe hitdog sources don't think he will be there or maybe they are in the Ranaan camp who say he isn't even an option.
Literally nobody knows. We will soon though!!!!!
And FYI. It is entirely possible I'm being fed bad info. I was always honest about that I don't know Jerry Reese personally but I just don't see why a friend of mine from college would purposely give me info. He doesn't know about BBI or my alter ego TLG.
Your information and that of all the other “asshats” is very much appreciated. This is true regardless of who is right or wrong. As you note, we’ll know soon anyways.
I don't like taking him this early, but if he is the guy you want you take him at 10 and you don't get cute with trade downs.
I can see waiting on O-Line with so many picks used early recently. I see a ton of value on the D-Line in later rounds. We have been quiet in FA with WRs...not that we didn't sign anyone but we really didn't even look at anyone IIRC.
The grinder in me wants Conklin, but another poster on another thread said something that I agreed with. Do you really need a top RT in a quick hitting WC offense? Probably not...Tredwell in Round One. Devon Cajuste Round 5. No more Red Zone problems...