This might be a day late and a buck short, but I'll post it anyway. If it's not received well, I will gladly delete it.
I know many are unhappy, but think of it this way:
The fact is that they did actually have Apple rated higher than Hargreaves due to size and consistency. They really liked him throughout the draft process
I talked to my guy after the pick was made, and his response was that the Giants were "obsessed" with his measurables and tape.
He did admit that they liked Conklin and Floyd, but Apple was not as risky and filled a need. He said Floyd not being able to keep on weight was an "issue"
He basically said, what Reese said in his press conference: they had a lot of concerns about Tunsil and his off-the-field issues, Jack and his knee issues, and Hargreaves with his size and style of play.
He also said that several teams were interested in trading up for Apple, as high as 12. If the Giants didn't take him, he would have been selected shortly thereafter.
So after Floyd, Buckner and Conklin were selected, the choice was easy.
No one knows what his pro career will be like, but realistically, he is the best option.
He did not tell me if Apple would have been the pic of Floyd was still on the board, because I'm guessing he didn't know. He also did not know what the cost was to trade up or the price to trade down.
Man, the Hargreaves was misdirection for many if no Floyd was available.
Probably not any time soon though.
Since he's only a small-time agent, I don't think he gets a lot of true, breaking inside information.
Probably not any time soon though.
Yes, Reese is obsessed with measurables and potential.
But that just proves this was a classic Reese pick, where he assigns the greatest value to “upside,” “athleticism,” and “measurables.” Apple can play, but he needs a lot of technique work. The fact that other teams would have taken him at #12 doesn’t matter. The Bengals took Jackson at #24. We could have had him or Burns and a bunch of extra picks.
If the the Giants can land Karl Joseph that could be a hell of a backfield to go with a nice front four.
Still need a WLB.
Anyway, I wanted Coleman, so whatever. I think Apple is a smart pick.
If the the Giants can land Karl Joseph that could be a hell of a backfield to go with a nice front four.
Still need a WLB.
Raiders reached for Joseph
A first round top ten blunder.
If the the Giants can land Karl Joseph that could be a hell of a backfield to go with a nice front four.
Still need a WLB.
karl went already
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they might learn to trash their obsession with meeting various metrics and go back to drafting football players.
Probably not any time soon though.
Yes, Reese is obsessed with measurables and potential.
Me too, especially on a 20 year old who can't cook
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I hope we work something out with him that rework his contract.
If the the Giants can land Karl Joseph that could be a hell of a backfield to go with a nice front four.
Still need a WLB.
Raiders reached for Joseph
Damn. Joseph is worthy of a 1st round pick IMO.
If the the Giants can land Karl Joseph that could be a hell of a backfield to go with a nice front four.
Still need a WLB.
karl went already
If the the Giants can land Karl Joseph that could be a hell of a backfield to go with a nice front four.
Still need a WLB.
Joseph already went. And Reese is probably content with J.T. Thomas, since LBs don't matter.
Are you going to be ok? Do you need a tissue?
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The fact that they had Apple ranked higher than Hargreaves doesn't exactly make me feel any better, though. Oh well. Not a big deal. There's a reason my passion for this team, for the first time in my 33 years of life, has taken a major hit recently. Just hope for the best. I do feel bad for Eli as a person, though. By all accounts, he seems like a great guy, which is something that seems to be getting more and more rare (not sure that's the right word/word I want to use, but you get the point) these last few years. Meh. I will lower my expectations for this team (not the first time these last few years) and hope for the best. The days of me over-reacting to this team, especially with the current FO still intact, are long gone. It's just a football team.
Are you going to be ok? Do you need a tissue?
Yes. The "it's just a football team" just screams "I need a tissue." What a shock! drken approves of a Giants move!
Let the record show you started it this time, doucher. :)
I feel the same way but have a lot more years on you
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In comment 12930563 Dave in Hoboken said:
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The fact that they had Apple ranked higher than Hargreaves doesn't exactly make me feel any better, though. Oh well. Not a big deal. There's a reason my passion for this team, for the first time in my 33 years of life, has taken a major hit recently. Just hope for the best. I do feel bad for Eli as a person, though. By all accounts, he seems like a great guy, which is something that seems to be getting more and more rare (not sure that's the right word/word I want to use, but you get the point) these last few years. Meh. I will lower my expectations for this team (not the first time these last few years) and hope for the best. The days of me over-reacting to this team, especially with the current FO still intact, are long gone. It's just a football team.
Are you going to be ok? Do you need a tissue?
Yes. The "it's just a football team" just screams "I need a tissue." What a shock! drken approves of a Giants move!
Let the record show you started it this time, doucher. :)
Get some sleep Dave. If we won all the time it wouldn't be a game. The Giants are a great team to root for, speaking as someone who has been through the pre-86 dark ages.
But that just proves this was a classic Reese pick, where he assigns the greatest value to “upside,” “athleticism,” and “measurables.” Apple can play, but he needs a lot of technique work. The fact that other teams would have taken him at #12 doesn’t matter. The Bengals took Jackson at #24. We could have had him or Burns and a bunch of extra picks.
Bingo.. a classic JR move.. AT #10!!! Watch how many flags he will get.. IN AWE
Second, please stop with the "I will delete if it's not well received"
You do it on a lot of your threads like this, and really who gives a fuck if it's not well received. You certainly shouldn't. Fuck the people who don't like it.
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The fact that they had Apple ranked higher than Hargreaves doesn't exactly make me feel any better, though. Oh well. Not a big deal. There's a reason my passion for this team, for the first time in my 33 years of life, has taken a major hit recently. Just hope for the best. I do feel bad for Eli as a person, though. By all accounts, he seems like a great guy, which is something that seems to be getting more and more rare (not sure that's the right word/word I want to use, but you get the point) these last few years. Meh. I will lower my expectations for this team (not the first time these last few years) and hope for the best. The days of me over-reacting to this team, especially with the current FO still intact, are long gone. It's just a football team.
Are you going to be ok? Do you need a tissue?
Haha, maybe lend him your script pad so he can do it right?
Second, please stop with the "I will delete if it's not well received"
You do it on a lot of your threads like this, and really who gives a fuck if it's not well received. You certainly shouldn't. Fuck the people who don't like it.
I agree, i've never had a well received thread.
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The fact that they had Apple ranked higher than Hargreaves doesn't exactly make me feel any better, though. Oh well. Not a big deal. There's a reason my passion for this team, for the first time in my 33 years of life, has taken a major hit recently. Just hope for the best. I do feel bad for Eli as a person, though. By all accounts, he seems like a great guy, which is something that seems to be getting more and more rare (not sure that's the right word/word I want to use, but you get the point) these last few years. Meh. I will lower my expectations for this team (not the first time these last few years) and hope for the best. The days of me over-reacting to this team, especially with the current FO still intact, are long gone. It's just a football team.
Looking at it as just a football team seems like the smarter outlook than anything I've read on here tonight, both on the positive and negative side. If it's worthy of a response like the one you posted, I'm good with that. Have fun being passionate about this team and front office this year.