has stud written all over him. I'd love that choice
As a DE or DT? I like his quick first step, but he's another case of a player that you'd expect would have better numbers than he did.
I'd play him mainly in a rotation on the inside. He's so disruptive. He's more of a run stuffer that can get to the QB with consistency. That being said, you can move him to the outside on occasion as well. I think Spags would like him for his versatility on the line. Great work ethic too.
I agree. i had him as one of my 3 2nd round picks Â
guy I'm really high on and wouldn't mind at 40 (albeit perhaps a bit of a reach) would be Nick Martin from Notre Dame. Plug this dude in at RG right away.
Brilliant, let's go ahead and cut two of our safeties returning from IR last season. I am hoping the Giants steer clear of bringing in any new safeties unless it's a UDFA.
Why? You haven't seen anything from the safeties we have to leave you confident they can help this team.
Because they are young and need to be given one year to prove otherwise. What should we do just bring in more safeties and cut a couple of guys that have not been given a valid shot at making the roster and proving they can stick and contribute. I am all for giving them another chance especially now our pass rush is going to be much improved from the past few seasons.
Major upside. He could be an All-Pro in a few years.
I am starting to warm up to Dodd. I am at a trade show down in Atlanta next to the Georgia dome. I spoke to a few Clemson fans who say Dodd is a tremendous player who rushes the passer and plays the run just as good. A few guys said he was just as good as Shaq and the reason being is Shaq couldn't stay healthy. They think he is a perfect DE in a 4-3, while Shaq was better suited as a standup in a 3-4.
Him Hank and Harrison would make a special DT rotation. Have enough talent on outside provided Odi stays healthy and talented corners. Hopefully, they could grab a safety and wr in next couple of rounds.
what's the consensus? Do we make the move for Jack? Man, talk about a fucking hope and a prayer if we did it.
We really don't know. It all depends on how the Giants view the medicals. None of us have access to that information so both Jack and Jaylon Smith are the ultimate wildcards. If the Giants are comfortable with their medicals, it would be a coup. If not, you have to pass for healthier players.
guy I'm really high on and wouldn't mind at 40 (albeit perhaps a bit of a reach) would be Nick Martin from Notre Dame. Plug this dude in at RG right away.
Hopefully he is still there.
Unless you want Newhouse starting at RT again.
Please stop with the drafting of a TE, with all the other needs they have. I don't think he is the second coming
of Mark Bavaro, their TE's are serviceable.
That's all the Giants really care about at that position.
In Round 3, I would like to see a WR.. They have signed
a couple of LB's, don't see them taking another one until
Day 3 at the earliest. That's where JR "finds" them.
Posted this on another thread... My top 10 right now... Â
1. LB Myles Jack (damn the injury just to good at this point)
2. DT Andrew Billings (Shocked he hasn't been drafted. This guy is a freak and just 20 years old. His upside is off the charts! At 311 lbs he had like a 35 inch vert!)
3. DE Emmanuel Ogbah (very under rated IMO. Still learning I think is why. I love his upside)
4. WR Sterling Sheppard (Ok I have called him a slot WR, but the more I watch him the more I like him. Very good kid also.)
5. DE Kevin Dodd (played on a talented Def and on the other side of Shaq Lawson, but played extremely well. has good size)
6. OT Le'Raven Clark (here is the thing... He is a LT IMO. Good feet and extremely long arms. He has amazing potential to be elite. That is saying something so I can't pass on him)
7. DE Noah Spence (Not sure on the fit, but I think he is very talented as a pass rusher. He has worked hard to stay clean and I don't think his history is as much of a risk as others)
8. FS Vonn Bell (won't happen... they won't draft him, but I like him a lot)
9. WR Tyler Boyd (amazing hands. Under rated because his last year they switched how they used him and his yards per catch went way down. Runs good routes and I think will be a solid #2 WR for years!)
10. DT/DE Jonathan Bullard (I think he is a pass rushing DT. I love his get off. He can play DE though also making him very flexible for a team that had only 2 good DEs and 2 good DTs... That puts his value way up for me.)
Players I really like even though they are probably 3rd rounders... LB Scooby Wright and WR Michael Thomas Southern Miss
Players that will be on most peoples top 10 A'shawn Robinson, Jarran Reed, Carl Nassib, and Reggie Ragland.. I like them all and would be happy with any of them.
Brilliant, let's go ahead and cut two of our safeties returning from IR last season. I am hoping the Giants steer clear of bringing in any new safeties unless it's a UDFA.
Why? You haven't seen anything from the safeties we have to leave you confident they can help this team.
Because they are young and need to be given one year to prove otherwise. What should we do just bring in more safeties and cut a couple of guys that have not been given a valid shot at making the roster and proving they can stick and contribute. I am all for giving them another chance especially now our pass rush is going to be much improved from the past few seasons.
I would agree, doesn't make sense to draft another safety
early in the draft. Since they have these guys here already,
have to show us what they have or don't for a year.
Are Myles Jack, Andrew Billings, and Von Bell. Let's continue to add to the defense in round 2. Add a G or WR in round 3 and swing a trade for Anthony Davis and this team is in great shape.
is a fringe 1st round pick. A much better prospect than anything we currently have at free safety. I understand the need to see what we have on the roster, but that doesn't mean you simply pass on Bell if he's the best player.
name that hasn’t been mentioned is Chris Jones, the DT/DE from Mississippi State. He has the size and length that Reese craves. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the pick, but he could easily be taken before #40.
is that the viable pool of "Value+Need" picks is greatly enhanced for the Giants!
The funny thing is I think we're pretty much set at D-Line, but yet there are so many quality players available today. I'm a huge proponent of taking the best player available so if we walk away from the second round with either Robinson, Dodd, Ogbah, Spence or Chris Jones, I'll be absolutely thrilled.
is that the viable pool of "Value+Need" picks is greatly enhanced for the Giants!
The funny thing is I think we're pretty much set at D-Line, but yet there are so many quality players available today. I'm a huge proponent of taking the best player available so if we walk away from the second round with either Robinson, Dodd, Ogbah, Spence or Chris Jones, I'll be absolutely thrilled.
Set at DL? Who do we have after JPP and Vernon at DE? Who do we have at DT after Hankins and Snacks? We need a DT and DE badly IMO... Especially when there is a good chance we lose JPP next year and Snacks is really a 2 down player. We need a big time DE badly for next year and passing downs and depth of course.
is that the viable pool of "Value+Need" picks is greatly enhanced for the Giants!
The funny thing is I think we're pretty much set at D-Line, but yet there are so many quality players available today. I'm a huge proponent of taking the best player available so if we walk away from the second round with either Robinson, Dodd, Ogbah, Spence or Chris Jones, I'll be absolutely thrilled.
Set at DL? Who do we have after JPP and Vernon at DE? Who do we have at DT after Hankins and Snacks? We need a DT and DE badly IMO... Especially when there is a good chance we lose JPP next year and Snacks is really a 2 down player. We need a big time DE badly for next year and passing downs and depth of course.
Odighizuwa was a third round pick last year and I still think he has very nice upside. Kerry Wynn is a good backup.
I'm not a fan of Bromley, but he was a Day 2 pick as well, as was Nix.
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is that the viable pool of "Value+Need" picks is greatly enhanced for the Giants!
The funny thing is I think we're pretty much set at D-Line, but yet there are so many quality players available today. I'm a huge proponent of taking the best player available so if we walk away from the second round with either Robinson, Dodd, Ogbah, Spence or Chris Jones, I'll be absolutely thrilled.
Set at DL? Who do we have after JPP and Vernon at DE? Who do we have at DT after Hankins and Snacks? We need a DT and DE badly IMO... Especially when there is a good chance we lose JPP next year and Snacks is really a 2 down player. We need a big time DE badly for next year and passing downs and depth of course.
Odighizuwa was a third round pick last year and I still think he has very nice upside. Kerry Wynn is a good backup.
I'm not a fan of Bromley, but he was a Day 2 pick as well, as was Nix.
Weird how people cry about depth, then conveniently forget the very young players on the roster who are the depth they cry about.
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is that the viable pool of "Value+Need" picks is greatly enhanced for the Giants!
The funny thing is I think we're pretty much set at D-Line, but yet there are so many quality players available today. I'm a huge proponent of taking the best player available so if we walk away from the second round with either Robinson, Dodd, Ogbah, Spence or Chris Jones, I'll be absolutely thrilled.
Set at DL? Who do we have after JPP and Vernon at DE? Who do we have at DT after Hankins and Snacks? We need a DT and DE badly IMO... Especially when there is a good chance we lose JPP next year and Snacks is really a 2 down player. We need a big time DE badly for next year and passing downs and depth of course.
Odighizuwa was a third round pick last year and I still think he has very nice upside. Kerry Wynn is a good backup.
I'm not a fan of Bromley, but he was a Day 2 pick as well, as was Nix.
Weird how people cry about depth, then conveniently forget the very young players on the roster who are the depth they cry about.
I didn't forget about anyone... OO was a healthy scratch last year when he was finally healthy. Don't you think that maybe he isn't going to be that good? It is way to early to tell, but it isn't like he flashed and there is no need to grab a top talent that fell to you in the second. I would feel much better with OO being my 4th DE than my second. Same goes for Bromley as a 4th DT rather than a 3rd DT. Wynn a good backup? Come on man.
is a fringe 1st round pick. A much better prospect than anything we currently have at free safety. I understand the need to see what we have on the roster, but that doesn't mean you simply pass on Bell if he's the best player.
We need an OT but the talent really isn't there at 40. Should probably look for Coleman in the 3rd and go for Dodd, Ogbah, Spence, Reed, Robinson, Billings, etc.
is that the viable pool of "Value+Need" picks is greatly enhanced for the Giants!
The funny thing is I think we're pretty much set at D-Line, but yet there are so many quality players available today. I'm a huge proponent of taking the best player available so if we walk away from the second round with either Robinson, Dodd, Ogbah, Spence or Chris Jones, I'll be absolutely thrilled.
Set at DL? Who do we have after JPP and Vernon at DE? Who do we have at DT after Hankins and Snacks? We need a DT and DE badly IMO... Especially when there is a good chance we lose JPP next year and Snacks is really a 2 down player. We need a big time DE badly for next year and passing downs and depth of course.
Odighizuwa was a third round pick last year and I still think he has very nice upside. Kerry Wynn is a good backup.
I'm not a fan of Bromley, but he was a Day 2 pick as well, as was Nix.
Weird how people cry about depth, then conveniently forget the very young players on the roster who are the depth they cry about.
I didn't forget about anyone... OO was a healthy scratch last year when he was finally healthy. Don't you think that maybe he isn't going to be that good? It is way to early to tell, but it isn't like he flashed and there is no need to grab a top talent that fell to you in the second. I would feel much better with OO being my 4th DE than my second. Same goes for Bromley as a 4th DT rather than a 3rd DT. Wynn a good backup? Come on man.
The only way to know if OO and Bromley can play is to play them. He was a highly ranked prospect and a productive college player for a reason
Take care of the OL first. I have no problem improving the RB Corps, but the returns will be much better if we get an impactful run blocker on the right side.
Plenty of RBs in rounds 3 and 4 who can contribute
I have a random draft question that I don't want to start another... Â
Why do teams ever trade up 1 spot? If the team is willing to trade with you so that you can pick up player X aren't they not picking that player anyway? Or is it because they're like "I like player X, but would be willing to settle for player Y with another pick, but will go for player X without a trade". Or the third possibility I've thought of is that there are teams offering the team to trade and pick up player X and the team that trades down with you is using that as leverage or sees this particular trade as more aligned with their interests?
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is that the viable pool of "Value+Need" picks is greatly enhanced for the Giants!
The funny thing is I think we're pretty much set at D-Line, but yet there are so many quality players available today. I'm a huge proponent of taking the best player available so if we walk away from the second round with either Robinson, Dodd, Ogbah, Spence or Chris Jones, I'll be absolutely thrilled.
Set at DL? Who do we have after JPP and Vernon at DE? Who do we have at DT after Hankins and Snacks? We need a DT and DE badly IMO... Especially when there is a good chance we lose JPP next year and Snacks is really a 2 down player. We need a big time DE badly for next year and passing downs and depth of course.
Odighizuwa was a third round pick last year and I still think he has very nice upside. Kerry Wynn is a good backup.
I'm not a fan of Bromley, but he was a Day 2 pick as well, as was Nix.
Weird how people cry about depth, then conveniently forget the very young players on the roster who are the depth they cry about.
I didn't forget about anyone... OO was a healthy scratch last year when he was finally healthy. Don't you think that maybe he isn't going to be that good? It is way to early to tell, but it isn't like he flashed and there is no need to grab a top talent that fell to you in the second. I would feel much better with OO being my 4th DE than my second. Same goes for Bromley as a 4th DT rather than a 3rd DT. Wynn a good backup? Come on man.
The only way to know if OO and Bromley can play is to play them. He was a highly ranked prospect and a productive college player for a reason
I guess so... OO has been injure prone a lot throughout his career. To rely on him to me... no thank you. I feel like if a good DE comes to us at pick 40 we have to grab him. Same with Bromley although he has shown more. The talent in this draft at DT is higher than in most years. Most years you wouldn't have so many top guys still there. Pretty sure i would trade Bromley and OO straight up for any of this guys and wouldn't get a taker.
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has stud written all over him. I'd love that choice
As a DE or DT? I like his quick first step, but he's another case of a player that you'd expect would have better numbers than he did.
I'd play him mainly in a rotation on the inside. He's so disruptive. He's more of a run stuffer that can get to the QB with consistency. That being said, you can move him to the outside on occasion as well. I think Spags would like him for his versatility on the line. Great work ethic too.
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Brilliant, let's go ahead and cut two of our safeties returning from IR last season. I am hoping the Giants steer clear of bringing in any new safeties unless it's a UDFA.
Why? You haven't seen anything from the safeties we have to leave you confident they can help this team.
Because they are young and need to be given one year to prove otherwise. What should we do just bring in more safeties and cut a couple of guys that have not been given a valid shot at making the roster and proving they can stick and contribute. I am all for giving them another chance especially now our pass rush is going to be much improved from the past few seasons.
I am starting to warm up to Dodd. I am at a trade show down in Atlanta next to the Georgia dome. I spoke to a few Clemson fans who say Dodd is a tremendous player who rushes the passer and plays the run just as good. A few guys said he was just as good as Shaq and the reason being is Shaq couldn't stay healthy. They think he is a perfect DE in a 4-3, while Shaq was better suited as a standup in a 3-4.
We really don't know. It all depends on how the Giants view the medicals. None of us have access to that information so both Jack and Jaylon Smith are the ultimate wildcards. If the Giants are comfortable with their medicals, it would be a coup. If not, you have to pass for healthier players.
I wouldn't mind seeing that.
-Shepard
-Floyd
-Spriggs
3rd round
-Jonathan Williams
-Max Tuerk
-Javon Hargrave
-Shepard
-Floyd
-Spriggs
3rd round
-Jonathan Williams
-Max Tuerk
-Javon Hargrave
You definitely won't get Floyd.
Thanks BBI auto correct
Unless you want Newhouse starting at RT again.
Please stop with the drafting of a TE, with all the other needs they have. I don't think he is the second coming
of Mark Bavaro, their TE's are serviceable.
That's all the Giants really care about at that position.
In Round 3, I would like to see a WR.. They have signed
a couple of LB's, don't see them taking another one until
Day 3 at the earliest. That's where JR "finds" them.
2. DT Andrew Billings (Shocked he hasn't been drafted. This guy is a freak and just 20 years old. His upside is off the charts! At 311 lbs he had like a 35 inch vert!)
3. DE Emmanuel Ogbah (very under rated IMO. Still learning I think is why. I love his upside)
4. WR Sterling Sheppard (Ok I have called him a slot WR, but the more I watch him the more I like him. Very good kid also.)
5. DE Kevin Dodd (played on a talented Def and on the other side of Shaq Lawson, but played extremely well. has good size)
6. OT Le'Raven Clark (here is the thing... He is a LT IMO. Good feet and extremely long arms. He has amazing potential to be elite. That is saying something so I can't pass on him)
7. DE Noah Spence (Not sure on the fit, but I think he is very talented as a pass rusher. He has worked hard to stay clean and I don't think his history is as much of a risk as others)
8. FS Vonn Bell (won't happen... they won't draft him, but I like him a lot)
9. WR Tyler Boyd (amazing hands. Under rated because his last year they switched how they used him and his yards per catch went way down. Runs good routes and I think will be a solid #2 WR for years!)
10. DT/DE Jonathan Bullard (I think he is a pass rushing DT. I love his get off. He can play DE though also making him very flexible for a team that had only 2 good DEs and 2 good DTs... That puts his value way up for me.)
Players I really like even though they are probably 3rd rounders... LB Scooby Wright and WR Michael Thomas Southern Miss
Players that will be on most peoples top 10 A'shawn Robinson, Jarran Reed, Carl Nassib, and Reggie Ragland.. I like them all and would be happy with any of them.
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Brilliant, let's go ahead and cut two of our safeties returning from IR last season. I am hoping the Giants steer clear of bringing in any new safeties unless it's a UDFA.
Why? You haven't seen anything from the safeties we have to leave you confident they can help this team.
Because they are young and need to be given one year to prove otherwise. What should we do just bring in more safeties and cut a couple of guys that have not been given a valid shot at making the roster and proving they can stick and contribute. I am all for giving them another chance especially now our pass rush is going to be much improved from the past few seasons.
I would agree, doesn't make sense to draft another safety
early in the draft. Since they have these guys here already,
have to show us what they have or don't for a year.
The funny thing is I think we're pretty much set at D-Line, but yet there are so many quality players available today. I'm a huge proponent of taking the best player available so if we walk away from the second round with either Robinson, Dodd, Ogbah, Spence or Chris Jones, I'll be absolutely thrilled.
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is that the viable pool of "Value+Need" picks is greatly enhanced for the Giants!
The funny thing is I think we're pretty much set at D-Line, but yet there are so many quality players available today. I'm a huge proponent of taking the best player available so if we walk away from the second round with either Robinson, Dodd, Ogbah, Spence or Chris Jones, I'll be absolutely thrilled.
Set at DL? Who do we have after JPP and Vernon at DE? Who do we have at DT after Hankins and Snacks? We need a DT and DE badly IMO... Especially when there is a good chance we lose JPP next year and Snacks is really a 2 down player. We need a big time DE badly for next year and passing downs and depth of course.
Tier two would be the other DL reputed players Ogbah/Dodd, left plus a handful of LBs.
Tier three the savvy, cuts on a dime and gets open slot wrs and guards or right tackles.
3rd: Leonte Carroo WR
Trade a 2017 pick for Anthony Davis
Make it happen JR!!
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is that the viable pool of "Value+Need" picks is greatly enhanced for the Giants!
The funny thing is I think we're pretty much set at D-Line, but yet there are so many quality players available today. I'm a huge proponent of taking the best player available so if we walk away from the second round with either Robinson, Dodd, Ogbah, Spence or Chris Jones, I'll be absolutely thrilled.
Set at DL? Who do we have after JPP and Vernon at DE? Who do we have at DT after Hankins and Snacks? We need a DT and DE badly IMO... Especially when there is a good chance we lose JPP next year and Snacks is really a 2 down player. We need a big time DE badly for next year and passing downs and depth of course.
Odighizuwa was a third round pick last year and I still think he has very nice upside. Kerry Wynn is a good backup.
I'm not a fan of Bromley, but he was a Day 2 pick as well, as was Nix.
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is that the viable pool of "Value+Need" picks is greatly enhanced for the Giants!
The funny thing is I think we're pretty much set at D-Line, but yet there are so many quality players available today. I'm a huge proponent of taking the best player available so if we walk away from the second round with either Robinson, Dodd, Ogbah, Spence or Chris Jones, I'll be absolutely thrilled.
Set at DL? Who do we have after JPP and Vernon at DE? Who do we have at DT after Hankins and Snacks? We need a DT and DE badly IMO... Especially when there is a good chance we lose JPP next year and Snacks is really a 2 down player. We need a big time DE badly for next year and passing downs and depth of course.
Odighizuwa was a third round pick last year and I still think he has very nice upside. Kerry Wynn is a good backup.
I'm not a fan of Bromley, but he was a Day 2 pick as well, as was Nix.
Weird how people cry about depth, then conveniently forget the very young players on the roster who are the depth they cry about.
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is that the viable pool of "Value+Need" picks is greatly enhanced for the Giants!
The funny thing is I think we're pretty much set at D-Line, but yet there are so many quality players available today. I'm a huge proponent of taking the best player available so if we walk away from the second round with either Robinson, Dodd, Ogbah, Spence or Chris Jones, I'll be absolutely thrilled.
Set at DL? Who do we have after JPP and Vernon at DE? Who do we have at DT after Hankins and Snacks? We need a DT and DE badly IMO... Especially when there is a good chance we lose JPP next year and Snacks is really a 2 down player. We need a big time DE badly for next year and passing downs and depth of course.
Odighizuwa was a third round pick last year and I still think he has very nice upside. Kerry Wynn is a good backup.
I'm not a fan of Bromley, but he was a Day 2 pick as well, as was Nix.
Weird how people cry about depth, then conveniently forget the very young players on the roster who are the depth they cry about.
I didn't forget about anyone... OO was a healthy scratch last year when he was finally healthy. Don't you think that maybe he isn't going to be that good? It is way to early to tell, but it isn't like he flashed and there is no need to grab a top talent that fell to you in the second. I would feel much better with OO being my 4th DE than my second. Same goes for Bromley as a 4th DT rather than a 3rd DT. Wynn a good backup? Come on man.
The LOS needs more IMO
(of course, opinions send a few into meltdown mode around here).
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Major upside. He could be an All-Pro in a few years.
I also want Dodd
Dodd would be nice. Could just be scratching the surface of what he could be
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is that the viable pool of "Value+Need" picks is greatly enhanced for the Giants!
The funny thing is I think we're pretty much set at D-Line, but yet there are so many quality players available today. I'm a huge proponent of taking the best player available so if we walk away from the second round with either Robinson, Dodd, Ogbah, Spence or Chris Jones, I'll be absolutely thrilled.
Set at DL? Who do we have after JPP and Vernon at DE? Who do we have at DT after Hankins and Snacks? We need a DT and DE badly IMO... Especially when there is a good chance we lose JPP next year and Snacks is really a 2 down player. We need a big time DE badly for next year and passing downs and depth of course.
Odighizuwa was a third round pick last year and I still think he has very nice upside. Kerry Wynn is a good backup.
I'm not a fan of Bromley, but he was a Day 2 pick as well, as was Nix.
Weird how people cry about depth, then conveniently forget the very young players on the roster who are the depth they cry about.
I didn't forget about anyone... OO was a healthy scratch last year when he was finally healthy. Don't you think that maybe he isn't going to be that good? It is way to early to tell, but it isn't like he flashed and there is no need to grab a top talent that fell to you in the second. I would feel much better with OO being my 4th DE than my second. Same goes for Bromley as a 4th DT rather than a 3rd DT. Wynn a good backup? Come on man.
The only way to know if OO and Bromley can play is to play them. He was a highly ranked prospect and a productive college player for a reason
Whoa -- you want to give up a 1rst round pick for a second round pick -- YIKES!
that absolutely has to be a smoke screen. He fits nothing we do. We are a shutgun offense.
We have so many more needs at #40 that would be a dreadful pick.
Maybe Derrick can run block for himself.
No thanks.
Plenty of RBs in rounds 3 and 4 who can contribute
Why do teams ever trade up 1 spot? If the team is willing to trade with you so that you can pick up player X aren't they not picking that player anyway? Or is it because they're like "I like player X, but would be willing to settle for player Y with another pick, but will go for player X without a trade". Or the third possibility I've thought of is that there are teams offering the team to trade and pick up player X and the team that trades down with you is using that as leverage or sees this particular trade as more aligned with their interests?
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is that the viable pool of "Value+Need" picks is greatly enhanced for the Giants!
The funny thing is I think we're pretty much set at D-Line, but yet there are so many quality players available today. I'm a huge proponent of taking the best player available so if we walk away from the second round with either Robinson, Dodd, Ogbah, Spence or Chris Jones, I'll be absolutely thrilled.
Set at DL? Who do we have after JPP and Vernon at DE? Who do we have at DT after Hankins and Snacks? We need a DT and DE badly IMO... Especially when there is a good chance we lose JPP next year and Snacks is really a 2 down player. We need a big time DE badly for next year and passing downs and depth of course.
Odighizuwa was a third round pick last year and I still think he has very nice upside. Kerry Wynn is a good backup.
I'm not a fan of Bromley, but he was a Day 2 pick as well, as was Nix.
Weird how people cry about depth, then conveniently forget the very young players on the roster who are the depth they cry about.
I didn't forget about anyone... OO was a healthy scratch last year when he was finally healthy. Don't you think that maybe he isn't going to be that good? It is way to early to tell, but it isn't like he flashed and there is no need to grab a top talent that fell to you in the second. I would feel much better with OO being my 4th DE than my second. Same goes for Bromley as a 4th DT rather than a 3rd DT. Wynn a good backup? Come on man.
The only way to know if OO and Bromley can play is to play them. He was a highly ranked prospect and a productive college player for a reason
I guess so... OO has been injure prone a lot throughout his career. To rely on him to me... no thank you. I feel like if a good DE comes to us at pick 40 we have to grab him. Same with Bromley although he has shown more. The talent in this draft at DT is higher than in most years. Most years you wouldn't have so many top guys still there. Pretty sure i would trade Bromley and OO straight up for any of this guys and wouldn't get a taker.