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2016 NFL Draft: Pre-Draft Discussion Thread (Day 2)

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/28/2016 11:40 pm
Rounds 2 and 3 on Friday...
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Good D-lineman still available  
bigblue12 : 4/28/2016 11:41 pm : link
Dodd, Ogbah, Billings, Robinson, Spence, Reed, Bullard. Not to mention Jack, Ragland, Bell, etc.
Jerry  
BigBlue1092 : 4/28/2016 11:42 pm : link
GET ME MYLES JACK
Jack  
Craigg619 : 4/28/2016 11:42 pm : link
Still a chance for Jack. Last moved up from 40 to top of 2nd using a 4th rounder. I think they should do it again for him.
Hoping  
adamg : 4/28/2016 11:43 pm : link
40 Jason Spriggs
71 Braxton Miller
109 Deion Jones
RE: Jack  
bigbluescot : 4/28/2016 11:43 pm : link
In comment 12930796 Craigg619 said:
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Still a chance for Jack. Last moved up from 40 to top of 2nd using a 4th rounder. I think they should do it again for him.


I don't think they will. The strength of this draft is the 2nd round/3rd round imho.
Still  
AcidTest : 4/28/2016 11:44 pm : link
don’t want Jack. Billings would be awesome, but I doubt he makes it to #40. Him or Ogbah.
I  
Jon in NYC : 4/28/2016 11:44 pm : link
would 100% give up a 4th for Jack. Even if he is a 4-5 year player.

Dodd is another guy I really like.
I guess Jack wasn't a smokescreen  
Mason : 4/28/2016 11:46 pm : link
I don't think he would went there if he knew this was going to happen.
How about the Cowboys potentially getting  
bigblue12 : 4/28/2016 11:46 pm : link
Elliot and Jack....
I'm guessing that Dallas takes Jack. Big risk but a JJ special.  
yatqb : 4/28/2016 11:46 pm : link
.
They won't do it, but I'm on the Hunter Henry bus.  
Devon : 4/28/2016 11:46 pm : link
They can run two TE sets, with Tye (maybe Donnell), and get another weapon on the field that way.
Spriggs is still there... Spriggs is still there  
Mason : 4/28/2016 11:47 pm : link
I wanted him in a trade down and he is still on the board for day 2. Mock drafts are worthless.
Jack or Billings  
Mike in NY : 4/28/2016 11:48 pm : link
Are my two favorite players left
You just know its Jack to the Cowboys  
wigs in nyc : 4/28/2016 11:50 pm : link
so Jerry
keep your eye  
area junc : 4/28/2016 11:52 pm : link
out for jihad ward in round 2
The cost of trading up with Tennessee.  
David in LA : 4/28/2016 11:55 pm : link
I think we have to make a move like we did for Landon Collins and walk away with Jack. We gave up a 4th, swapped 2nd's and the next year's 7th rounder.
Sterling Shepard, Cody Whitehair,  
TC : 4/28/2016 11:56 pm : link
Robinson, Ogbah, and while they won't do it, and don't really need to, Henry wouldn't be bad at 40 either.
RE: The cost of trading up with Tennessee.  
Emil : 4/28/2016 11:57 pm : link
In comment 12930874 David in LA said:
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I think we have to make a move like we did for Landon Collins and walk away with Jack. We gave up a 4th, swapped 2nd's and the next year's 7th rounder.


Wasn't the 7th used for Brad Wing?
Probably Connor Cook to Clev at 32  
Tom in NY : 4/28/2016 11:57 pm : link
Dallas will probably take Jack, but could also go QB (Hackenburg or Prescott).

Just pray Jerry is working on a trade with SF for OT Davis!

That would open up all sorts of possibilities in rounds 2-6.
RE: keep your eye  
Emil : 4/28/2016 11:58 pm : link
In comment 12930852 area junc said:
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out for jihad ward in round 2


Totally forgot about him. A very bad man
My bad, it was that year's 7th, not the current one  
David in LA : 4/28/2016 11:59 pm : link
Been a long day!
Jerry meaning ....Jerry Reese.  
Tom in NY : 4/28/2016 11:59 pm : link
not the evil emperor.
My top 10 available  
sjnyfan : 4/28/2016 11:59 pm : link
1. Myles Jack, LB (even with the knee)
2. Jarran Reed, DT
3. Kevin Dodd, DE
4. Jonathan Bullard, DL
5. Javon Hargrave, DT
6. Leonte Caroo, WR
7. Sean Davis, DB
8. Braxton Miller, WR
9. Hunter Henry, TE
10. Sterling Shepherd, WR
This blows  
est1986 : 4/29/2016 12:00 am : link
It only cost the Bears a 4th rounder to steal our guy. Myles Jack or Jaylon Smith will help me, lets take a risk.
I'd like to go OL, WR, or Safety in round 2,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/29/2016 12:00 am : link
but there are SO MANY good defensive line prospects, you might have to go there.
My preferences for round 2  
Emil : 4/29/2016 12:00 am : link
Myles Jack LB
Reggie Ragland LB
Noah Spence DE/LB
Cody Whitehair OG/OT
Jonathan Bullard DE
Michael Thomas WR
Hunter Henry TE
Sterling Shepard WR
Vonn Bell S
Emmanuel Ogbah DE
Su'a Cravens LB
Kevin Dodd DE
Kamale Correa DE/LB
Jason Spriggs OT

That's 14 names. High on the first ten for round 2; Jack through Ogbah.
Jack is a risk  
larryflower37 : 4/29/2016 12:00 am : link
But I would go for it.
Someone will have the guts to pull the tigger.
Let's be that team.
RE: Hoping  
The_Boss : 4/29/2016 12:05 am : link
In comment 12930800 adamg said:
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40 Jason Spriggs
71 Braxton Miller
109 Deion Jones


40 Spriggs
71 Boyd/Carroo

Would make me a happy mother F'er....time to address the O


However, if Ogbah is there, he fits them to a T
RE: This blows  
blueblood : 4/29/2016 12:09 am : link
In comment 12930902 est1986 said:
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It only cost the Bears a 4th rounder to steal our guy. Myles Jack or Jaylon Smith will help me, lets take a risk.


You mean that guy that most of BBI hated
RE: They won't do it, but I'm on the Hunter Henry bus.  
Klaatu : 4/29/2016 12:31 am : link
In comment 12930818 Devon said:
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They can run two TE sets, with Tye (maybe Donnell), and get another weapon on the field that way.


I'm with you. Take a page out of the Patriots' playbook.
Sterling  
MookGiants : 4/29/2016 12:32 am : link
Shepard please
My list:  
Anakim : 4/29/2016 12:33 am : link
Myles Jack is the wildcard obviously. Him and Jaylon Smith. We'll see where they go. If the Giants are comfortable with either one of them, they should roll the dice.


As for my list, here's my top 10 remaining players for the Football Giants (in order):

1) DT A'Shawn Robinson of Alabama
2) DE Kevin Dodd of Clemson
3) DT Chris Jones of Mississippi State
4) DE Emmanuel Ogbah of Oklahoma State
5) DE Noah Spence of Eastern Kentucky
6) WR Michael Thomas of Ohio State
7) WR Sterling Shepard of Oklahoma
8) TE Hunter Henry of Arkansas
9) OG Cody Whitehair of Kansas State
10) DT Andrew Billings of Baylor
RE: RE: Hoping  
adamg : 4/29/2016 12:36 am : link
In comment 12930916 The_Boss said:
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In comment 12930800 adamg said:


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40 Jason Spriggs
71 Braxton Miller
109 Deion Jones



40 Spriggs
71 Boyd/Carroo

Would make me a happy mother F'er....time to address the O


However, if Ogbah is there, he fits them to a T


I like Carroo as an alternate 4th rounder. If they go D in 3. Bring on Carroo.
Andrew Billings Please  
geelabee : 4/29/2016 12:42 am : link
Favorite player in the entire draft...a player that I wouldn't mind at 10...at 40 that would be a pipe dream.
DE Charles Tapper.  
Klaatu : 4/29/2016 12:54 am : link
OLB Deion Jones.
FS Justin Simmons.
WR Pharoah Cooper.

These are a few of my favorite things...
.  
huygens20 : 4/29/2016 1:33 am : link
I would bet alot of money we don't take jack.

We still have glaring need at WR and LB

Tennessee has 3 r2 picks.
....  
Gmen108021 : 4/29/2016 1:36 am : link
jack or spriggs at 40.

wouldnt mind
deion jones
correa
sua cravens

one of those three would be nice if we dont get jack at 40.

unfortunately i think dallas goes jack at 40 smh gonna be horrible that dallas lands TWO top 5 talents in one draft all because they lost romo for the year...they have a good team now add elliot and jack not good
Forgot about Spriggs.  
Klaatu : 4/29/2016 1:39 am : link
Would be a nice consolation prize for me after losing out on Conklin, but it may take a trade up to get him. We'll see.
Myles Jack  
est1986 : 4/29/2016 1:43 am : link
Jaylon Smith
Vonn Bell
Derrick Henry
Cody Whitehair
Noah Spence
Reggie Ragland
Hunter Henry
Andrew Billings
Sterling Sheppard
Jason Spriggs
A'Shawn Robinson
Su'a Cravens
Mackenzie Alexander
Was Boylhart the guy who loved Jarran Reed?  
Anakim : 4/29/2016 1:44 am : link
One of the draft pundits talked about Jarran Reed like he was the Second Coming. It was hilarious. I think A'Shawn Robinson is a better fit for the Giants than Reed and he's my #1 available player right now. I would love if he fell to 40 and if we took him even though DT isn't a need. #BPA
...  
Gmen108021 : 4/29/2016 1:45 am : link
Spriggs--Cleveland possible, SD possible, Jags maybe...we pick 9 he doesnt have to fall far and with some of the big defenders still on board it wouldnt be crazy that being said i think we pass on a OT and go for a LBer, maybe jack(doubt it) or correa...spence?
how about a WR like Shep or thomas id be happy with that.
For what it's worth, A'Shawn Robinson is only 21 and doesn't turn  
Anakim : 4/29/2016 1:46 am : link
22 until next March (even though he looks like he's in his 40's). He would kind of fit the mold of taking younger players with high upside but not the best college production (see Flowers and Apple).
...  
Gmen108021 : 4/29/2016 1:49 am : link
if we go DL im gonna be pretty pissed,

LB, WR, RT, FS our four biggest needs and through two rounds we didnt help ANY of it...not saying draft just for your biggest needs, but if a guy like robinson is closely graded to a need thats there you take the need IMO. for example if the giants have equal grades on robinson and spriggs you take spriggs he is a need over DT. i get DT may be a need due to lack of depth plus hankins potentially leaving in 2017 but its below RT in terms of need
I mean Robinson had some nice production for Bama  
Anakim : 4/29/2016 1:49 am : link
But it could've been better and I think he'll end up being better in the NFL than he was in college.
RE: ...  
Anakim : 4/29/2016 1:50 am : link
In comment 12931124 Gmen108021 said:
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if we go DL im gonna be pretty pissed,

LB, WR, RT, FS our four biggest needs and through two rounds we didnt help ANY of it...not saying draft just for your biggest needs, but if a guy like robinson is closely graded to a need thats there you take the need IMO. for example if the giants have equal grades on robinson and spriggs you take spriggs he is a need over DT. i get DT may be a need due to lack of depth plus hankins potentially leaving in 2017 but its below RT in terms of need


Fuck need. Take the best player available. But yes, if they have EQUAL grades on Spriggs and Robinson, then you take the need.
I don't see the fascination with Spriggs. He has nice feet but that's  
Anakim : 4/29/2016 1:51 am : link
about it. I don't think he's ready to play right away as he needs to get stronger and bigger and I definitely think he'll be limited to the left side only.
RE: ...  
Mike in NY : 4/29/2016 1:51 am : link
In comment 12931119 Gmen108021 said:
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Spriggs--Cleveland possible, SD possible, Jags maybe...we pick 9 he doesnt have to fall far and with some of the big defenders still on board it wouldnt be crazy that being said i think we pass on a OT and go for a LBer, maybe jack(doubt it) or correa...spence?
how about a WR like Shep or thomas id be happy with that.


Considering Spriggs is not a RT in the NFL, I have no problem pouncing on a quality defender like Jack or Billings or a target for Eli like Shepard or Hunter Henry in Round 2 or 3 and then look at OL in Round 3 or 4 as there are a number of interesting mid-round G and T development guys
It's going to be an OG/OT if he's there.  
RAIN : 4/29/2016 1:51 am : link
Hopefully that's Whitehair. Then I see Dodd's value being to much to ignore if Cody is gone. Then Henry makes too much sense to impact the blocking and receiving game. Reed has too much talent to be a 2nd rounder. Then a receiver (but their will be decent one in round 3).

1> Whitehair, OG/OT
2> Dodd, DE
3> Hunter Henry, TE
4> Reed, DT
5> Shepard, Thomas, or Miller WR
well my point  
Gmen108021 : 4/29/2016 1:54 am : link
is i dont see how they can have a MUCH higher grade on guys like robinson and reed as opposed to guys like thomas, spriggs, jack even with risk, correa, spence, vonn bell etc...CB was a need pick, the value was okay. i think they could have slid back some for him regardless of what they say but who cares point is it was a need too and a position they value. so need is something the giants wont and shouldnt ignore hence the reason i think DL is a bad pick in round 2 or 3...we need to fill to holes. sorry but i believe we NEED to compete next season and that starts by filling some MAJOR holes. LBer is still a joke. right side of line can use improvement(maybe a davis trade) WR is still a position of need. FS is a position of concern. you could even argue for two LBers to be drafted this year
henry  
Gmen108021 : 4/29/2016 1:55 am : link
not a fan...to many pressing needs and we have two decent TEs....tye is a young guy and drafting henry that high is a luxury pick something we dont have...
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