for display only
Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner

Archived Thread

So we draft a back-up corner

GiantsinIA : 4/29/2016 12:46 am
An now people are asking for a back-up de or dt next. Really? Looking for depth on d line over the lack of starting talent on the roster. If available 2nd round pick should be ragland, bell, or springs. Add immediate starters not backups.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2016 12:48 am : link
Reese, Ross, and McAdoo may be wrong about a lot of things, but one of the things they are 100 percent correct on:

Your third CB is not a back-up. He's a starter.
Teams are in sub packages roughly 65% of the time  
robbieballs2003 : 4/29/2016 12:52 am : link
So you better have a legit third CB or S.
very silly comment you just made  
blueblood : 4/29/2016 12:52 am : link
apparently you are still watching football from 1970...

11 personnel or 3 wide receiver offensive sets are played approximately 60 percent of the NFL snaps..

which means your third corner is playing 60% of the time.. Thats a starter..

You remember when the Giants has this guy named Victor Cruz a few years back who torched the NFL for 1500 yards mostly playing as a SLOT receiver.. yeah.. thats the third receiver on the field.. so um you kinda need three corners..
Great situation  
Torn Tendon : 4/29/2016 12:56 am : link
for him to learn the defense and get experience this year. He will be a great #3 and has time to develop into a #2 or #1. If people stay healthy.
Even if Apple  
ryanmkeane : 4/29/2016 12:56 am : link
doesn't start (which he will, or at least he will play a lot) I still like the pick. CB is a premium position and he was the highest rated one in the draft on their board. Most likely near the top of the second tier. Why take another position that you don't have nearly rated as high? Especially if CB is a need? Smart and safe pick.

This new version of Reese and co wants to take high floor, high ceiling guys that love football and are clean players. Apple fits that mold.
If a third CB is so important  
averagejoe : 4/29/2016 1:00 am : link
why didn't we resign Prince ? Apple is a downgrade from Amukamara. He is very raw and may not immediately be any better than the scrub db's we already have.

So 2016 is another 'rebuilding' year in a win now league?
We could have had a line of Tunsil-Hart-Richburg-Pugh-Flowers  
PatersonPlank : 4/29/2016 1:01 am : link
We could have had Kennard-Jack-?? as our linebackers

Now we have the same lineup. This Top 10 pick has no impact.
RE: If a third CB is so important  
TyFromQueens : 4/29/2016 1:05 am : link
In comment 12931065 averagejoe said:
Quote:
why didn't we resign Prince ? Apple is a downgrade from Amukamara. He is very raw and may not immediately be any better than the scrub db's we already have.

So 2016 is another 'rebuilding' year in a win now league?


Because Prince is injury prone that's why.

Shucks,all he got was a one year prove it deal from Jacksonville.
Tunsil  
ryanmkeane : 4/29/2016 1:05 am : link
was never going to be the pick, regardless of the video.
RE: We could have had a line of Tunsil-Hart-Richburg-Pugh-Flowers  
TyFromQueens : 4/29/2016 1:08 am : link
In comment 12931067 PatersonPlank said:
Quote:
We could have had Kennard-Jack-?? as our linebackers

Now we have the same lineup. This Top 10 pick has no impact.


Not sure if you've been paying attention.

McAdoo has already said Jerry,baring Hart beating him out is the starter.

Flowers is our LT. So we would have potentially drafted Tunsil to start at RT.
It's quite obvious (as the night goes on) that Tunsil has a shit ton of baggage. The Giants didn't want to deal with that. Not at the 10th pick.

RE: If a third CB is so important  
Klaatu : 4/29/2016 1:12 am : link
In comment 12931065 averagejoe said:
Quote:
why didn't we resign Prince ? Apple is a downgrade from Amukamara. He is very raw and may not immediately be any better than the scrub db's we already have.

So 2016 is another 'rebuilding' year in a win now league?


Prince was an injury waiting to happen. We didn't re-sign him because he couldn't stay healthy. We picked up his 5th year option to see if he could "reverse the curse," but it didn't happen. All in all, he appeared in 55 out of a possible 80 games. Why is this difficult for you to understand? Or is it that you do understand it, but you'd rather just piss and moan for some unfathomable reason?

The rest of your post isn't worth discussing, because it appears to be as product of a very disturbed mind.

You've got issues.

Get help.
Prince sounded like he didn't want to stay with the Giants  
steve in ky : 4/29/2016 1:16 am : link
.
RE: If a third CB is so important  
short lease : 4/29/2016 1:16 am : link
In comment 12931065 averagejoe said:
Quote:
why didn't we resign Prince ? Apple is a downgrade from Amukamara. He is very raw and may not immediately be any better than the scrub db's we already have.

So 2016 is another 'rebuilding' year in a win now league?


Not only is he injury prone ... he wanted to get paid like a starting CB - most of his career he didn't start (injured).
RE: RE: If a third CB is so important  
averagejoe : 4/29/2016 1:18 am : link
In comment 12931084 Klaatu said:
Quote:
In comment 12931065 averagejoe said:


Quote:


why didn't we resign Prince ? Apple is a downgrade from Amukamara. He is very raw and may not immediately be any better than the scrub db's we already have.

So 2016 is another 'rebuilding' year in a win now league?



Prince was an injury waiting to happen. We didn't re-sign him because he couldn't stay healthy. We picked up his 5th year option to see if he could "reverse the curse," but it didn't happen. All in all, he appeared in 55 out of a possible 80 games. Why is this difficult for you to understand? Or is it that you do understand it, but you'd rather just piss and moan for some unfathomable reason?

The rest of your post isn't worth discussing, because it appears to be as product of a very disturbed mind.

You've got issues.

Thanks for your concern. Now fuck off and die sissypants.

Get help.
Big talk from a guy who can't use the reply function properly.  
Klaatu : 4/29/2016 1:22 am : link
Hopefully, there's a Mental Health clinic in your vicinity. Check the interwebz.
RE: If a third CB is so important  
Torn Tendon : 4/29/2016 1:23 am : link
In comment 12931065 averagejoe said:
Quote:
why didn't we resign Prince ? Apple is a downgrade from Amukamara. He is very raw and may not immediately be any better than the scrub db's we already have.

So 2016 is another 'rebuilding' year in a win now league?

In addition to the injury bug. Prince doesn't have the skills to play as a slot corner. Apple can play the slot and outside.
RE: Prince sounded like he didn't want to stay with the Giants  
short lease : 4/29/2016 2:11 am : link
In comment 12931088 steve in ky said:
Quote:
.


That to .. reports from insiders said they didn't kiss his royal ass enough.
RE: Prince sounded like he didn't want to stay with the Giants  
Mason : 4/29/2016 2:31 am : link
In comment 12931088 steve in ky said:
Quote:
.


Yeah. Was a little surprised by some of the stuff Prince pulled this year year. Skipping out on his radio gig was a Shockey move and then lying about it didn't sound like him. I think not getting that extension last year was more of an issue than many may have known. Those cryptic tweets should have been a give away.
Not only is he a starter now on roughly  
Simms11 : 4/29/2016 8:53 am : link
65% of the snaps, but he's insurance right now against one of the starters going down and he'll also be getting that much needed experience. I think he's going to be a good one with solid coaching. I'm not worried about the pick at all. If he learns how to grab a receiver and let go, he'll be ok.
your 3rd corner will be in for 65% of the snaps  
Ron Johnson : 4/29/2016 10:16 am : link
if you have a good one.

If you have a bad one he'll be in for 95% of the snaps.
Back to the Corner