NFT: Mets talk 4/29 Bring on the Giants!

Who else wants to wake up in first place tomorrow??


Im pumped, going to my first game of the year tomorrow afternoon. Looking forward to getting my Syndergaarden Gnome!!

Enjoy Debo. Should be a fun weekend.

Not sold on their pitching but their lineup should be a nice test for our staff. Bumgarner VS Syndergaard should be particularly good Sunday.

Dee Gordon suspended 80 games for PED use. So that's how he got so good!!

Nats shut out again by the Phillies last night :)

In comment 12931715 ZGiants98 said:

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Dee Gordon suspended 80 games for PED use. So that's how he got so good!!

Cant wait ti play the Marlins

But Nimmo busted out last night. 3-3 with a double finally hitting at the top of the order. Gilmartin was fantastic and is pitching very well in Vegas.

In comment 12931720 arcarsenal said:

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Nats shut out again by the Phillies last night :)

I know I come here and intervene on some NL east talk and joke around from time to time. But I think people are really underestimating whats going on in Philly right now. They are a lot better than people think. Just a bunch of young guys who play hard. Their OF defense ranks up there with any team in baseball. Herrera, Burjous, and Lough are really fast and really good out there. Their only weak defender is Howard.

Offensively, they struggle at times, but they really do battle. Herrera has turned into a OBP machine. Franco wiull become a stud if he learns he doesnt have to hit a ball 500 feet every time. The rest of the team is fair at best, but usually one or two guys come through a game. Yesterday it was Rupp, the othr day it was Burjous, or Galvis.

Plus, Williams will be up playing LF soon. Knapp should be taking over at 1B as well. And of course their best prospect, Crawford, will be up either late this year or next year.

I dont expect them to win anything this year, but I made a predicition that they will be closer to .500 than people think and I am sticking with it.

Bob Nightengale ✔ ‎@BNightengale
Dee:Though I did not do so knowingly,I have been informed that test results showed I ingested something that contained prohibited substances

Michael Mayer ‎@themainemets
Mets OF prospect (&final piece of Dickey trade) Wuilmer Becerra reached base 4 times for @stluciemets last night. Hitting .385 over last 10.

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Another shutout

Impressive

In comment 12931739 dep026 said:

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In comment 12931720 arcarsenal said: Quote: Nats shut out again by the Phillies last night :) I know I come here and intervene on some NL east talk and joke around from time to time. But I think people are really underestimating whats going on in Philly right now. They are a lot better than people think. Just a bunch of young guys who play hard. Their OF defense ranks up there with any team in baseball. Herrera, Burjous, and Lough are really fast and really good out there. Their only weak defender is Howard. Offensively, they struggle at times, but they really do battle. Herrera has turned into a OBP machine. Franco wiull become a stud if he learns he doesnt have to hit a ball 500 feet every time. The rest of the team is fair at best, but usually one or two guys come through a game. Yesterday it was Rupp, the othr day it was Burjous, or Galvis. Plus, Williams will be up playing LF soon. Knapp should be taking over at 1B as well. And of course their best prospect, Crawford, will be up either late this year or next year. I dont expect them to win anything this year, but I made a predicition that they will be closer to .500 than people think and I am sticking with it.

They are a lot better than people give them credit for. They should be an above 500 team

Still .410. Not surprising his average is sinking like a lead balloon as of late.

Mets Rewind ‎@metsrewind
Happy Birthday, Gary Cohen! The @Mets broadcaster turns 58 today.

Consecutive games with at least one XBH:

Yoenis Cespedes: 8
Hunter Pence: 6
Cameron Rupp: 5
Gregory Polanco: 4
Michael Conforto: 4

always get the feeling Gary Cohen is an odd dude. I'd love to see a hidden camera show follow him for a week lol

In comment 12931911 ZGiants98 said:

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Still .410. Not surprising his average is sinking like a lead balloon as of late.

Oh come on did you honestly expect the guy to hit .430 all season?

Of course it would drop at some point but he is still 3rd in the league at .370. Not exactly worthy of mocking.

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In comment 12931911 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Still .410. Not surprising his average is sinking like a lead balloon as of late. Oh come on did you honestly expect the guy to hit .430 all season? Of course it would drop at some point but he is still 3rd in the league at .370. Not exactly worthy of mocking.

The point is his BABIP is so high he isn't likely to be leading anything before long. I fully expect him to regress back to the mean. Also, he only has 2 HR so I guess so much for the unlocked power.

I'm happy he had a hot start. I believe it's coming to a close though.

Was a homegrown guy, a great teammate while he was here who always played his hardest and even during all the playoff and WS heroics and the attention it drew he continued to always point to his teammates instead of himself.

He wanted dearly to remain a NY Met and was left no option but to sign elsewhere and then proceeded to get off to the hottest start in all the league but now has cooled off which everyone knew would happen at some point.

I guess I don't understand the need to try and tear the guy down at the first opportunity.

He plays for the Washington Nationals who happen to be our main competition and who are also in first place at the moment. I'm really not in love with the Nats lineup. They have Harper and then whose their second best hitter? Murphy?? Murphy was our 7th best hitter heading into the postseason last year. A lot is riding on how Murphy does for the Nats. It's slightly important.

The rest I agree with though. I have no ill will towards him. I do find it humorous how many Mets fans were ready to jump off a ledge after the week of the season though (not necessarily here).

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1. Amed Rosario, ss, Mets Team: high Class A St. Lucie (Florida State) Age: 20 Why He�s Here: .375/.407/.750 (9-for-24), 2 R, 1 2B, 1 3B, 2 HR, 12 RBIs, 1 BB, 5 SO The Scoop: Rosario is a talented prospect, but when the Mets jumped the teenager to the Florida State League last year after he spent 2014 in the short-season New York-Penn League, the move proved to be too ambitious. He was able to tread water in 2015, but his modest performance didn�t reflect his considerable upside. Back in the FSL for round two, Rosario is off to a terrific start. He already has three home runs after going without a homer the entire 2015 season. The minors are chock full of talented shortstops off to excellent starts, but Rosario�s stock is certainly up as his game performance starts to break through. (BB) Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/prospect-hot-sheet-april-29-young-mets-shortstop-finds-footing/#QIyfGVM6qe089f1x.99

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I wonder what happens if he owns Bing though. Cup of coffee in Vegas this year? Probably not but either way as long as he performs well there he is likely starting in Vegas next year and a heartbeat away.

he can say whatever he wants about adjustments and leg kicks, but nothing is going to change until he stops trying to swing out of his shoes. His bat speed is nowhere near what it used to be, likely a result of losing strength due to his back and normal aging, and he needs to compensate but relying on his hand eye coordination to make contact and go the other way with the ball more. Instead he's still trying to pull 2 strike pitches that are on the outer half.

Mets don't promote players quickly without organizational needs. Unless Rosario is absolutely amazing in AA AND the big club has a need at SS Rosario will most certainly split at A+/AA and open next year in AAA. Could he finish up in AAA? Sure but A+/AA much more likely. Also, 0% knocking the kid but he needs to walk more, he's not close to being a finished product.

Arguably the best lineup they have faced up to this point.

Span CF
Panik 2B
Duffy 3B
Posey C
Pence RF
Belt 1B
Crawford SS
Peavy RHP
Pagan LF

Granderson RF
Wright 3B
Conforto LF
Cespedes CF
Duda 1B
Walker 2B
Cabrera SS
Plawecki C
Matz P

In comment 12933360 DanMetroMan said:

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Mets don't promote players quickly without organizational needs. Unless Rosario is absolutely amazing in AA AND the big club has a need at SS Rosario will most certainly split at A+/AA and open next year in AAA. Could he finish up in AAA? Sure but A+/AA much more likely. Also, 0% knocking the kid but he needs to walk more, he's not close to being a finished product.

Yeah I was envisioning something like last year where maybe he just gets called up for a cup of coffee or a playoff run or something. Still, even that's unlikely.

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Arguably the best lineup they have faced up to this point. Span CF Panik 2B Duffy 3B Posey C Pence RF Belt 1B Crawford SS Peavy RHP Pagan LF

Very good lineup. A true test for our pitchers. Should be fun.

Huge inning so far. Walks from Grandy and Wright. Double from Conforto and another single Cespedes. Nobody out. 3-0!

Still no out runners on 2nd and 3rd.

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Love seeing this. ZERO HR too. For some reason people think we can ONLY score via the long ball. WRONG.

This is awesome though.

The entire lineup has come to bat except Matz and nobody has gotten out.

Cards beating the Nats. Shocker.

nice catch

I was just saying to my friends I watched Broadway pitch near the end of ST and the guy could not get ANYONE out.. I had a feeling this would happen. He sucks.

Biggest inning in team history?

and Ces hits a grand slam

Grand slam!!! Hahahahahah

GRAND SLAM!!!!

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GS is a momentum breaker. Nice going CES lol

They are doing a number in this inning!

Rally killer!

What an inning!!!!!!!

was gonna leave after the 3rd ended, but it wouldn't end.

Wow

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That was sweet.

Totally forgot about the game with the NFL Draft. I'll take 12 runs so far.

I've never seen a 12 run inning in my life

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I've never seen a 12 run inning in my life

No Mets fan ever has. Its the first time in their history.

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I've never seen a 12 run inning in my life

I was a lot of fun.

Did you DVR it?

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In comment 12934939 spike said: Quote: I've never seen a 12 run inning in my life No Mets fan ever has. Its the first time in their history.

in little league we were the Indians and the Mets would score at least 12 runs each inning against us, so would the Clippers, Reds, and Blue Jays.

Just caught the score.

Must have been a fun inning to watch.

Nice way to set the tone for he series

After 7 2/3 of no hit pitching

He was at 116 pitches and has never pitch that far into a game in his career. Kid's gonna be a star.

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Can't wait for tomorrow.

I don't know how many saw it but on the Mets broadcast they did a side by side video comparison of the two catchers throwing to second. Wasn't close. Plawecki is up and letting the ball go much quicker.

Everyone kept saying the opposition is stealing on the pitchers. Well, Plawecki has thron out 5 of 8 with the same staff that TDA has thrown out 3 of 17 with.

Plawecki's throw to nail Belt tonight was perfect. Belt had that base stolen and KP nailed him with a great throw.

Is TDA was known for his defense in the minors, whereas D was considered a concern for PLawecki when he was drafted

Wouldn't be surprised at all if the shoulder contributed to how awful his throws have been. They were mostly fine last year. That Syndergaard game, even people at the game said the runners were sliding into 2B before the pitch even got to the catcher though.

the Mets. 12 run inning. It must have been great to be at the park.
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In comment 12935605 ZGiants98 said:

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That Syndergaard game, even people at the game said the runners were sliding into 2B before the pitch even got to the catcher though.

I watched that entire game and this statement isn't true at all. Noah didn't do a great job at holding the runners on but Let's not make excuses for how bad TdA was/has been. They were running because of TdA, not Syndergaard.

Thanks for your opinion. My opinion is that it was a combination of both at BEST. In fact, the Reds were still running the following day with Plawecki so clearly the catcher didn't have a lot to do with their game plan. I repeat, TDA's throws were laughable in that game, but Kieth/Ron( who you quote all the time) and people I had sitting 3 rows up on the first base line said the bags in that particular game were completely stolen before TDA had a chance.

it is no shock to see Plawecki look a lot better immediately. Just like it's no shock to Cabrera and Walker look great compared to what we'd been used to. Same as Flores looking better than Wright. It may sound obvious but it's very rare for players to be positive contributors both offensively and defensively, usually it's one or the other. It's all about fitting the right pieces together and to do that there needs to be objective evaluation - which is why I think there's a reasonable chance Plawecki seizes a big chunk of playing time at catcher going forward because in 3 years the most consistent things about Tda are injuries and bad defense (to his credit 3rd on that list is a wicked offensive hot streak after gaining confidence in the minors).

Like others have mentioned TDA was a good defense catcher in the minors and actually is STILL considered the better athlete. And TDA was NOT bad defensively last year. If you consider above average bad then I don't know what to tell you. TDA is a bit of a head case IMO. Lot of mental stuff going on with him. Either way, Plawecki needs to hit a whole hell of a lot more than he's shown or his ass will be back riding the pine the moment TDA is healthy.

all need to do a much better job at keeping runners on base or we will see teams testing us all year. They are absolutely not blameless.

But that's cool if you want to share equal blame, AT BEST, on the pitcher and catcher.

But saying that the runners were sliding in the 2B before the pitch even got to the catcher is just a flat out lie.

Keith and Ron...I've probably quoted maybe twice, probably once. But sure, keep on with the exaggerations. By the way, Keith and Ron never said that they were sliding into 2B before the pitch got the catcher. They did, however, talk about the big jumps they got. Context. It does wonders for credibility.

that's out of guys who had at least 550 innings (TdA had 569). He was also 29th in CS among all those players, but obviously that's skewed by him being injured.

Do we even need to evaluate how he did in the postseason and that it's continued this year? I mean we can act like scouting reports, advanced stats, minor league performance, and athleticism matter but it's a pretty simple binary observation that he has been a huge weakness.
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In comment 12936354 PhiPsi125 said:

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But that's cool if you want to share equal blame, AT BEST, on the pitcher and catcher. But saying that the runners were sliding in the 2B before the pitch even got to the catcher is just a flat out lie. Keith and Ron...I've probably quoted maybe twice, probably once. But sure, keep on with the exaggerations. By the way, Keith and Ron never said that they were sliding into 2B before the pitch got the catcher. They did, however, talk about the big jumps they got. Context. It does wonders for credibility.

Holy shit. You thought I was saying they were actually standing on the bag? Jesus man I was exaggerating for emphasis. I was just trying to say they got ridiculously good jumps and had the bases stolen before TDA had a chance. lol. And everybody else? It was pretty much universally agreed in that game the runners were running on Syndergaard.

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that's out of guys who had at least 550 innings (TdA had 569). He was also 29th in CS among all those players, but obviously that's skewed by him being injured. Do we even need to evaluate how he did in the postseason and that it's continued this year? I mean we can act like scouting reports, advanced stats, minor league performance, and athleticism matter but it's a pretty simple binary observation that he has been a huge weakness. 2015 catcher defense - ( New Window )

Dan and I and anyone that knows a damn thing about metrics knows that catching is basically worthless. They have a LONG ways to go. Ive said this here a million times so lets not act like Im being inconsistent now. He was above average throwing out runners last year. He completely cleaned up the passed balls from the year prior. What's left? His range on ops-ups? "Ignore catching metrics"

And i just looked and TDA had a POSITIVE DEF grade on fangraphs. 3.9! He's actually positive this year too. LOL.

but his throwing sucked and he was exposed in the postseason. I don't care what his throwing % was in half of a season, that can be skewed by a number of factors since not that many teams steal bases. In the postseason he was taken advantage of, just as he was so far this season.

Is fucking stupid and you know that. We've been through this. If there are 20 SS that qualify it is entirely possibly 18 out of 20 are good defensively. Which is why you DO NOT rank them. Unless of course you have an agenda.

probably not a new record for you, but maybe close.

In comment 12936513 Eric on Li said:

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but his throwing sucked and he was exposed in the postseason. I don't care what his throwing % was in half of a season, that can be skewed by a number of factors since not that many teams steal bases. In the postseason he was taken advantage of, just as he was so far this season.

Again. His throwing was above average last year. That's a fact. No debate. No metrics involved.

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probably not a new record for you, but maybe close.

They don't. I HATE catching metrics. They use exactly 3 things to weight the grade and a catcher has MANY more factors involved. Its just funny that he graded positively anyway.

TDA. The Mets are beating the shit out of teams. Be happy. Do we always have to complain about something?? TDA's throws were awful this year(baby small sample) and he wasn't hitting either. He needs to get it together if he even makes it back healthy. I know that. As for Plawecki. He needs to hit better. Maybe last night was a start.