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Can someone fill me in again on why DRC is at odds with

superspynyg : 4/29/2016 9:25 am
The Giants brass. I know it's contract related but I want any specifics or inside info as to why he will be cut next season.

Thanks
Don't buy into the spec.  
Big Blue '56 : 4/29/2016 9:31 am : link
He's still one of the top CBs in the league and should continue to be for another few years. I'm sure his contract (if it becomes an issue) can be adjusted accordingly..

After the fizzle of draft rumors for round 1, I wouldn't place all that much credibility in rumors
That's what you got out of last night?  
arniefez : 4/29/2016 9:36 am : link
That the rumors were wrong after two teams traded up in front of the Giants to take the two players the Giants had targeted and stupidly let everyone know about it? If there are rumors that DRC is having issues with the Giants based on what happened last night it's probably fact not rumor.
RE: That's what you got out of last night?  
dep026 : 4/29/2016 9:37 am : link
In comment 12931878 arniefez said:
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That the rumors were wrong after two teams traded up in front of the Giants to take the two players the Giants had targeted and stupidly let everyone know about it? If there are rumors that DRC is having issues with the Giants based on what happened last night it's probably fact not rumor.


It's been reported by Eric and JonC that there is a good chance DRC wont be with the team next year.
RE: Don't buy into the spec.  
superspynyg : 4/29/2016 9:39 am : link
In comment 12931854 Big Blue '56 said:
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He's still one of the top CBs in the league and should continue to be for another few years. I'm sure his contract (if it becomes an issue) can be adjusted accordingly..

After the fizzle of draft rumors for round 1, I wouldn't place all that much credibility in rumors


Then I am confused. Will we cut DRC next season? Will Apple play much? How will we use him? I like using him as a 3rd CB this year but next year I want him starting.
Why,  
Jerry's Kids : 4/29/2016 9:39 am : link
What exactly is the problem?
RE: RE: That's what you got out of last night?  
superspynyg : 4/29/2016 9:40 am : link
In comment 12931885 dep026 said:
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It's been reported by Eric and JonC that there is a good chance DRC wont be with the team next year.


Why??
If DRC finishes the season  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2016 9:41 am : link
healthy and has his usual productive season, it makes very little season to cut him before the 2017 season financially.

I don't buy that narrative/leak/speculation until I see it. they'll save 4.5M on the cap with 4M dead. so if you net that out, you need another CB who can put up similar production for $4M.

does not compute. But some people have connections and I do not so we'll see.
Well, for one,  
Doomster : 4/29/2016 9:41 am : link
DRC is making half the money the guy on the opposite side of him is making for the next two years.....so he can't be too happy about that.....

Second, he is 30, and he was nicked up a lot last season.....he made some big plays in the first half season, and missed on a few in the second half....

If he misses significant time this season, and is 31 next year, it's a possibility they could be looking elsewhere....

But, they still will have holes to fill, and do they want to create another?
RE: RE: That's what you got out of last night?  
OBJ_AllDay : 4/29/2016 9:41 am : link
In comment 12931885 dep026 said:
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In comment 12931878 arniefez said:


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That the rumors were wrong after two teams traded up in front of the Giants to take the two players the Giants had targeted and stupidly let everyone know about it? If there are rumors that DRC is having issues with the Giants based on what happened last night it's probably fact not rumor.



It's been reported by Eric and JonC that there is a good chance DRC wont be with the team next year.


ive asked a few times about this and it hasn't been elaborated on at all. What is the issue with DRC. The way he played last year showed he is a top flight corner IMO and it would be a mistake to let him go. Does he have big issues off the field?
little season  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2016 9:41 am : link
should be little sense
You know it's contract related?  
jcn56 : 4/29/2016 9:42 am : link
I always took that it was somehow behavioral/work ethic related.

I think even if you put the rumors aside, the fact that the guy has to leave just about every game with some sort of injury combined with his age means you start planning for that eventuality now.
DRC  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2016 9:43 am : link
played 77% of all defensive snaps. 2nd on the team to Landon Collins and DRC missed a game. When DRC was not on the field bad things happened.
After the 2017 season  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2016 9:46 am : link
it makes sense to cut ties with DRC.

so two more years with DRC, he'll be 31 and financially it makes sense to let him go.

after this season, I don't get it - unless as alluded to there are off-field or behavioral issues we don't know about, but in NY I'd be surprised, we usually know when someone doesn't pay a parking ticket.
RE: After the 2017 season  
Big Blue '56 : 4/29/2016 9:48 am : link
In comment 12931929 pjcas18 said:
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it makes sense to cut ties with DRC.

so two more years with DRC, he'll be 31 and financially it makes sense to let him go.

after this season, I don't get it - unless as alluded to there are off-field or behavioral issues we don't know about, but in NY I'd be surprised, we usually know when someone doesn't pay a parking ticket.


Agreed
Specifics are not going to be provided  
hitdog42 : 4/29/2016 9:49 am : link
On this one- I don't think
And it's not that's he's a bad dude-
My hope is he plays great this year. We don't have much Db depth
jcn  
JonC : 4/29/2016 9:50 am : link
on the right track.
Ok Eric and JonC  
superspynyg : 4/29/2016 9:51 am : link
We demand answers!!
RE: jcn  
hitdog42 : 4/29/2016 9:52 am : link
In comment 12931947 JonC said:
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on the right track.


Yes- though goes a small step further
Dripping breadcrumbs that lead people to believe a player  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/29/2016 9:54 am : link
may be a bad or questionable person is greasy. If you're not able to give details, it may be just as well not to cast shadows on someone's character.
In todays NFL  
Fred in Atlanta : 4/29/2016 9:55 am : link
You basically need 3 starting CBs. For financial reasons, it is probably best if one is on a rookie contract. I don't know if they will cut DRC next year.
The third CB  
Fred in Atlanta : 4/29/2016 9:56 am : link
probably will play more then the middle linebacker.
RE: That's what you got out of last night?  
Big Blue '56 : 4/29/2016 9:56 am : link
In comment 12931878 arniefez said:
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That the rumors were wrong after two teams traded up in front of the Giants to take the two players the Giants had targeted and stupidly let everyone know about it? If there are rumors that DRC is having issues with the Giants based on what happened last night it's probably fact not rumor.


Ummm, no one to my knowledge had Apple going to tge Giants at 10..The board spent months discussing in detail everyone BUT Apple...Sy gave him an excellent write-up and there may have been the usual few outliers in terms of wanting Apple there.

But in the main, Apple was not discussed by most BBIers and media for the 10 spot. There were discussions (ad nauseum) on Floyd including the possibilty a team or two might nab him before 10 and that the Giants loved Hargreaves, but Apple was NOT the guy.

So yeah, this first round and all the intense discussions told me not to believe the spec..The Giants, the "king of the leaks" did quite well here in that regard, imv..
Over the past two weeks, Hargreaves' stock seemed to cool off  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/29/2016 9:58 am : link
significantly with no clear explanation why.
TTH  
JonC : 4/29/2016 9:58 am : link
I'm not able to say more, sorry.
RE: RE: That's what you got out of last night?  
MadMax : 4/29/2016 10:02 am : link
In comment 12931983 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 12931878 arniefez said:


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That the rumors were wrong after two teams traded up in front of the Giants to take the two players the Giants had targeted and stupidly let everyone know about it? If there are rumors that DRC is having issues with the Giants based on what happened last night it's probably fact not rumor.



Ummm, no one to my knowledge had Apple going to tge Giants at 10..The board spent months discussing in detail everyone BUT Apple...Sy gave him an excellent write-up and there may have been the usual few outliers in terms of wanting Apple there.

But in the main, Apple was not discussed by most BBIers and media for the 10 spot. There were discussions (ad nauseum) on Floyd including the possibilty a team or two might nab him before 10 and that the Giants loved Hargreaves, but Apple was NOT the guy.

So yeah, this first round and all the intense discussions told me not to believe the spec..The Giants, the "king of the leaks" did quite well here in that regard, imv..


There were a couple of mocks having the Giants take Apple in the first round. I wrote them off as ridiculous but, surprise, surprise surprise!
RE: You know it's contract related?  
shabu : 4/29/2016 10:33 am : link
In comment 12931914 jcn56 said:
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I always took that it was somehow behavioral/work ethic related.

I think even if you put the rumors aside, the fact that the guy has to leave just about every game with some sort of injury combined with his age means you start planning for that eventuality now.


well said sir.
RE: RE: That's what you got out of last night?  
shabu : 4/29/2016 10:34 am : link
In comment 12931983 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 12931878 arniefez said:


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That the rumors were wrong after two teams traded up in front of the Giants to take the two players the Giants had targeted and stupidly let everyone know about it? If there are rumors that DRC is having issues with the Giants based on what happened last night it's probably fact not rumor.



Ummm, no one to my knowledge had Apple going to tge Giants at 10..The board spent months discussing in detail everyone BUT Apple...Sy gave him an excellent write-up and there may have been the usual few outliers in terms of wanting Apple there.

But in the main, Apple was not discussed by most BBIers and media for the 10 spot. There were discussions (ad nauseum) on Floyd including the possibilty a team or two might nab him before 10 and that the Giants loved Hargreaves, but Apple was NOT the guy.

So yeah, this first round and all the intense discussions told me not to believe the spec..The Giants, the "king of the leaks" did quite well here in that regard, imv..


So you think Apple was the pick all along ?
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