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New York Giants 3rd Round Pick: S Darian Thompson

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2016 9:56 pm
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RE: RE: Mayock and others on NFL Network  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/29/2016 10:05 pm : link
In comment 12935159 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 12935150 Dave in Hoboken said:


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saying he has tackling issues.

Meh.



But they also said he has great ball skills and a nose for the ball. Sounds like a real ball-hawking FS (which we need), but needs to be more physical. He's big too. I like it for a 3rd rounder.


Yeah, definitely a plus. Has to learn how to tackle, though.
RE: Usual  
Rflairr : 4/29/2016 10:05 pm : link
In comment 12935169 XBRONX said:
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Jerry third round crap pick. After round two Reese would be better off letting someone throw a dart at his draft board. Wimp safety.


Shut up. You don't know a damn thing about this player
Draft Scout had him at 64  
jeff57 : 4/29/2016 10:05 pm : link
Mayock didn't have him in his top 100
Best part of this pick  
bhill410 : 4/29/2016 10:05 pm : link
Weather ford introduction
We  
AcidTest : 4/29/2016 10:05 pm : link
have to keep drafting safeties because Reese cant find one. Taylor, Berhe, Thompson. Same story with the OL. Hard to believe he was the best guy on the board. Billings or Bullard seem like better picks.
Right position, wrong player  
Sy'56 : 4/29/2016 10:05 pm : link
Thompson looks good on tape against lower competition....not sure he is a guy that brings a higher level of play over what they already have. It's a logjam of mediocrity at FS.

Has ball skills and can wear a few hats. Not a bad pick. But he lacks some tools.
Tackling is a concern..  
arcarsenal : 4/29/2016 10:06 pm : link
But this is the type of player that needs to play next to Collins. I'm on board.
I like it. I would've preferred Justin Simmons but Thompson was  
Anakim : 4/29/2016 10:06 pm : link
my second best FS remaining. I absolutely hate our safeties (aside from Landon Collins of course) so I didn't mind that we chose for need here.
Tackling can be taught  
Mike B from JC : 4/29/2016 10:06 pm : link
He has size and a serious nose for the fb. Need turnovers. He can be coached.
to those saying we need to address the OL...  
TexasGmenFan : 4/29/2016 10:06 pm : link
i dont disagree, but there's a reason we're picking top 10 for the 2nd straight year. we weren't a good team, there are a ton of needs...i think we've been addressing them one by one thus far.

can't draft 6 guys with 1 pick...
I really didn't expect a safety taken this high  
SirYesSir : 4/29/2016 10:06 pm : link
as they still have Jackson, Thompson and Behre on the roster and are guys that they really haven't seen play badly. Unless you call them injury prone, and I really wouldn't considering the type of injuries, they already have new guys on the roster for that spot. odd.
If our FS  
chopperhatch : 4/29/2016 10:06 pm : link
Is the primary tackler on most plays, we have bigger problems.

This guy is a center fielder. We have corners now so he can sit back and look at routes looking to jump. Kinda curious what they saw in him over Simmons.
RE: Draft Scout had him at 64  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/29/2016 10:06 pm : link
In comment 12935179 jeff57 said:
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Mayock didn't have him in his top 100


You can tell when Mayock likes a player and doesn't by the tone of his voice, haha.
RE: RE: Mayock and others on NFL Network  
The 12th Man : 4/29/2016 10:07 pm : link
In comment 12935155 Giants2012 said:
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In comment 12935150 Dave in Hoboken said:


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saying he has tackling issues.

Meh.



They killed him

I think he's a nice centerfielder yet drafted for need


They did not kill him they said due to his speed sometimes he takes poor angles on the tackles. This they said can be cleaned up with proper coaching which they believe he will get at the next level. They also said the kid can make plays as evidenced by his 19 Int's
RE: And to be fair to Reese  
DCOrange : 4/29/2016 10:07 pm : link
In comment 12935160 adamg said:
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Our secondary is now solid for several years...


So drafting a guy makes the secondary solid for several years regardless of whether he is any good?
RE: RE: RE: Slow.  
Anakim : 4/29/2016 10:07 pm : link
In comment 12935153 yatqb said:
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In comment 12935131 Anakim said:


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In comment 12935126 yatqb said:


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He ran in the 4.5s in his Pro Day. He's not slow.



4.61 there.


4.53 and 4.55 is what I saw based on the reports. Far from slow
So many contradictory opinions on the guy....  
Milton : 4/29/2016 10:07 pm : link
Boylhart likes him....
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Darian is a smart, knows where hes supposed to be and does what hes supposed to do Safety. He has solid athletic talent and has no problems coming up to help out against the run. He has just enough cover skills and excellent size to cover bigger slot receivers and the change of direction skills to make life not very easy for those small slot receivers. Darian has the hands to make the interception and the run back skills that make you think he might be able to play on the other side of the ball as a third down running back, but I digress. Darian waits for a quarterback to make a mistake and then he makes them pay intercepting passes that most safeties would find hard to catch. In fact, most safeties are not even thinking about intercepting the ball, but Darian has the instincts and understands where his defensive pressure is going to come from against a quarterback and anticipates the mistake happening before it happens. He is smart because he understands more than just his position.

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Looks like a Zone guy  
RAIN : 4/29/2016 10:07 pm : link
that guesses a lot and doesn't tackle. They must have had some info. Liked Apple, loved Sheppard, this one... is kinda meh for me. I'm going to have to look up some cutups on him.
RE: RE: And to be fair to Reese  
adamg : 4/29/2016 10:07 pm : link
In comment 12935193 DCOrange said:
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In comment 12935160 adamg said:


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Our secondary is now solid for several years...



So drafting a guy makes the secondary solid for several years regardless of whether he is any good?


It's like you read my mind, dude. That's exactly what my point was.
RE: NFL.com page  
Simms11 : 4/29/2016 10:07 pm : link
In comment 12935161 David B. said:
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here says he ran a "4.0" 40.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/darian-thompson?id=2555154

Guessing that's a misprint.


Try 4.69 40, which is not great for a safety that has to keep up and react to quicker receivers.
Thought maybe Justin Simmons  
David B. : 4/29/2016 10:07 pm : link
if they were going FS.

Be nice to have a ball hawk, though. Not like he could be much worse than the guys they played back there last year.
It should have been Justin Simmons  
Ira : 4/29/2016 10:07 pm : link
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We needed a center fielder and we got one  
UConn4523 : 4/29/2016 10:08 pm : link
what 3rd rounder is perfect? We needed a ball hawk and hopefully he fits the bill. 19 picks suggests he has a nose for the ball which is perfectly fine with me.
he is  
BleedBlue : 4/29/2016 10:08 pm : link
playmaker im happy with the pick, we have fixed the secondary 4500 yards given up last season
RE: I like it. I would've preferred Justin Simmons but Thompson was  
chopperhatch : 4/29/2016 10:08 pm : link
In comment 12935185 Anakim said:
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my second best FS remaining. I absolutely hate our safeties (aside from Landon Collins of course) so I didn't mind that we chose for need here.


Bennet Jackson as a utility DB sounds nice to me. Can play safety or corner. 3 safety sets. I like Jackson. Assuming he stays healthy.
I think the Giants plan  
DonnieD89 : 4/29/2016 10:08 pm : link
is back to forcing errant throws due to pressure from the front. Now you have ball Hawks like Jenkins and Thompson for those errant throws.
RE: ...  
muhajir : 4/29/2016 10:08 pm : link
In comment 12935158 Eric from BBI said:
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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 2m2 minutes ago

The #Giants select at No. 71, #BoiseSt S Darian Thompson. An old-school hitter, this is a mentality pick. Physical.


Seems like everyone else is saying hes a center fielder type, not a SS
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2016 10:08 pm : link
Dan Graziano ‏@DanGrazianoESPN 2m2 minutes ago

Jerry Reese says Darian Thompson is a free safety. "Center fielder, makes the calls, solid tackler."
RE: We needed a center fielder and we got one  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/29/2016 10:09 pm : link
In comment 12935202 UConn4523 said:
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what 3rd rounder is perfect? We needed a ball hawk and hopefully he fits the bill. 19 picks suggests he has a nose for the ball which is perfectly fine with me.


I don't think there is a pick in the world that you would disagree with though, to be fair..
RE: RE: And to be fair to Reese  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 4/29/2016 10:09 pm : link
In comment 12935193 DCOrange said:
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In comment 12935160 adamg said:


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Our secondary is now solid for several years...



So drafting a guy makes the secondary solid for several years regardless of whether he is any good?


Oh for fuck's sake. How do you guys even get out of bed in the morning. It's all doom and gloom.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2016 10:09 pm : link
Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN 2m2 minutes ago

Jerry Reese says Darian Thompson is a free safety. A "centerfielder". A "ball-hawk safety."
Reese said  
Steve in South Jersey : 4/29/2016 10:09 pm : link
a competition pick, hardly and strong endorsement.
Need pick...don't love it as they left talent on the board for him  
Torrag : 4/29/2016 10:10 pm : link
Riverboat gambler on the backend. Not elite physical tools in terms of speed and agility. Oddly I like his ability to sift and hit near the LoS better than his projection as a ballhawking centerfield type S in the NFL. Wish him and us well with this pick...we'll need it.
Walterfootball live grade  
KevinBBWC : 4/29/2016 10:10 pm : link
New York Giants: Darian Thompson, S, Boise State A- Grade
Darian Thompson could've easily been chosen in the middle of the second round, so this is great value. Thompson also fills a need, as New York had to obtain help next to Landon Collins. Thompson has tackling concerns, but he's a play-maker who will create turnovers for the Giants.
Read more at http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftgrades3.php#l4270C5v1h7Vi4iB.99
Simmons  
PaulN : 4/29/2016 10:10 pm : link
Was the guy I thought they should grab, this is a pick that I guess I don't like much, why not Simmons? I understood Apple over Hargeaves, I loved Shepherd, this I can't get behind and Reese never hits on this type of pick. Typical Reese bullshit.
This  
5BowlsSoon : 4/29/2016 10:10 pm : link
Is what I read
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Another high  
Pete in MD : 4/29/2016 10:10 pm : link
character guy. He's well-liked by everyone apparently.
RE: RE: NFL.com page  
chopperhatch : 4/29/2016 10:10 pm : link
In comment 12935199 Simms11 said:
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In comment 12935161 David B. said:


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here says he ran a "4.0" 40.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/darian-thompson?id=2555154

Guessing that's a misprint.



Try 4.69 40, which is not great for a safety that has to keep up and react to quicker receivers.


Go back to sleep.he ran 4.53 and 4.55 at his pro day.
RE: If our FS  
Mason : 4/29/2016 10:10 pm : link
In comment 12935190 chopperhatch said:
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Is the primary tackler on most plays, we have bigger problems.

This guy is a center fielder. We have corners now so he can sit back and look at routes looking to jump. Kinda curious what they saw in him over Simmons.


That's what I thought as well. The SS should be the pure tackler and the FS the hands, finesse guy that plays the ball. If your FS is playing the receiver that means you have trouble at corner.
don't know much about him  
Greg from LI : 4/29/2016 10:10 pm : link
Would like to see more speed in the secondary, but they do need a ballhawk.
At least we have a starting FS  
jeff57 : 4/29/2016 10:10 pm : link
Thompson, Collins, DRC, Jenkins, Apple in the secondary. Not bad.
What the hell is wrong with these guys  
ghost718 : 4/29/2016 10:11 pm : link
Break out the dart board
Somebody needs to be the orchestrator and leader among  
Giants2012 : 4/29/2016 10:11 pm : link
An entire new secondary besides DRC.

Collins is still new
Thompson rookie
Apple rookie
Jenkins New
RE: Reese said  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 4/29/2016 10:11 pm : link
In comment 12935212 Steve in South Jersey said:
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a competition pick, hardly and strong endorsement.


He's not going to declare a third rounder the starter 10 minutes after he was drafted.
RE: I really didn't expect a safety taken this high  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/29/2016 10:11 pm : link
In comment 12935189 SirYesSir said:
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as they still have Jackson, Thompson and Behre on the roster and are guys that they really haven't seen play badly. Unless you call them injury prone, and I really wouldn't considering the type of injuries, they already have new guys on the roster for that spot. odd.


Is Berhe really a free/cover safety? He seems like more of a hitter than anything.

Jackson and Thompson are late round players.Jackson a converted corner who was not really a big time talent in college.

There was certainly room to bring in more talent.
Both ESPN and NFLN  
giantsfan227B : 4/29/2016 10:11 pm : link
Said he is a ball hawk and a heavy hitter but takes poor angles and as a safety needs to tackle better. If they can teach him how to take angles better this should allow Collins to play in box and play the run which is more his game because his coverage skills weren't great last year.

And honestly if this means we won't see Unga covering the top TE's in the league, I will take it.
RE: Right position, wrong player  
Anakim : 4/29/2016 10:12 pm : link
In comment 12935182 Sy'56 said:
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Thompson looks good on tape against lower competition....not sure he is a guy that brings a higher level of play over what they already have. It's a logjam of mediocrity at FS.

Has ball skills and can wear a few hats. Not a bad pick. But he lacks some tools.


I don't know about that, Sy. He had a very nice Senior Bowl week and he played very well against Virginia (as Greg may attest to) and Washington.
I don't know about this one.  
Klaatu : 4/29/2016 10:12 pm : link
If they were looking for a "centerfielder," I wish they'd taken Justin Simmons.
RE: RE: We needed a center fielder and we got one  
UConn4523 : 4/29/2016 10:12 pm : link
In comment 12935209 Dave in Hoboken said:
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what 3rd rounder is perfect? We needed a ball hawk and hopefully he fits the bill. 19 picks suggests he has a nose for the ball which is perfectly fine with me.



I don't think there is a pick in the world that you would disagree with though, to be fair..


I'm indifferent, don't know the player. I keep seeing people wish we picked this or that player and I just sit back and laugh. Unless we are taking a punter or someone with baggage I really don't have a strong opinion after the first couple rounds when I don't know the players much.
Here's a full game against UVA - not a powerhouse but still ACC  
Eric on Li : 4/29/2016 10:12 pm : link
looks pretty good and really seems to know how to go up for the ball.

McGinn's review called him the smartest safety in the draft with great ball skills and good coverage skills in both man/zone. Mayock echoed most of that. Sounds like he's a willing tackler but took bad angles that led to big plays also. It sounds like his ball skills are among the best in the draft, I like that roll of the dice. We certainly don't have anyone proven at FS.
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