Wish they had some clips of him catching the ball. God, if we can cobble together a decent O-Line, we will be a friggin' offensive juggernaut this year.
Wish they had some clips of him catching the ball. God, if we can cobble together a decent O-Line, we will be a friggin' offensive juggernaut this year.
we fired a HOF coach over Reese and Ross... and now we have to deal with this shit
come on man
STFU already. Your opinion is worth as much as your ability to spell.
My opinion is worth as much as yours.. its a fan site, I'm a fan, it is my right to bitch, you don't have to read it or agree.... I worry about Eli, we lose him, we are down
if this running back by committee shit continues then our running game may continue to be a disaster. We will see this season whether all of that crap was TC or McAdoo.
I dont care what RB you draft, they will all struggle if you bring him in for three plays and then sit him on the bench for a quarter.
if this running back by committee shit continues then our running game may continue to be a disaster. We will see this season whether all of that crap was TC or McAdoo.
I dont care what RB you draft, they will all struggle if you bring him in for three plays and then sit him on the bench for a quarter.
excellent point, seemed like Jennings would get rolling, and we'ed put Williams in and the drive would die, like its was his turn in Pop Warner or something
I had very high hopes for Williams after his rookie year
you're just not choosing to do so with any intelligence.
Ira, we couldn't close the OT's in FA, we didn't completely ignore it. You have to be smart with what you spend. This isn't the uncapped league anymore where you can just allocate all your 1st rounders to OL and have those 1990's Dallas OL's. They had such a surplus of talent, they had the luxury of losing Ron Stone, who turned out to be pro bowler for us.
You're right. Let's take a lesser player because he plays a position you want them to take. Just stop.
Lol exactly. Good lord. People have such strong opinions at this point it's funny. At this juncture of the draft, shouldn't we just trust advanced scouting?
Everyone at NFLN and ESPN loved the pick. I was going to transcribe, but realized my effort would be rewarded with more idiotic comments.
For all the people who say "don't draft a RB high, because you can find them in the later rounds," well, here we are in the later rounds. This is where you find them.
I'm as disapointed as everyone else that Ronnie Stanley didn't drop to pick 149. But you can only select from the players that are available when you pick.
I wanted OL more than anyone but the talent didn't break that way for us in the draft.
The Giants have made solid picks in every round. All of them can impact this year. No shitty developmental picks or backup QBs. Can't really complain about that.
This could be another 07 draft where I wanted Staley.
On paper our defense is worlds better w FA and the draft. This could be the most talented secondary of the Reese era. Offensively the Giants need help on the right side of the OL and that's it.
Agreed, except that I wanted an OT even more than you did.
Everyone at NFLN and ESPN loved the pick. I was going to transcribe, but realized my effort would be rewarded with more idiotic comments.
For all the people who say "don't draft a RB high, because you can find them in the later rounds," well, here we are in the later rounds. This is where you find them.
I'm as disapointed as everyone else that Ronnie Stanley didn't drop to pick 149. But you can only select from the players that are available when you pick.
Yep.
And for all of the people dick riding Zeke Elliott pre-draft look where most of the top RB prospects went. That's where smart GMs look for RB talent.
I wanted OL more than anyone but the talent didn't break that way for us in the draft.
The Giants have made solid picks in every round. All of them can impact this year. No shitty developmental picks or backup QBs. Can't really complain about that.
This could be another 07 draft where I wanted Staley.
On paper our defense is worlds better w FA and the draft. This could be the most talented secondary of the Reese era. Offensively the Giants need help on the right side of the OL and that's it.
Agreed, except that I wanted an OT even more than you did.
Nah, I've been all-in on Stanley and Conklin for a while. The draft just didn't break right for that.
I'm all in on this kid. We have no one like him. No one can be as elusive and provide the break a way ability like a tiki barber. Jennings is more of a plodder, Williams is useless, Cereen is pretty much a pass catcher, and Rainey is obsolete now.
I wanted OL more than anyone but the talent didn't break that way for us in the draft.
The Giants have made solid picks in every round. All of them can impact this year. No shitty developmental picks or backup QBs. Can't really complain about that.
This could be another 07 draft where I wanted Staley.
On paper our defense is worlds better w FA and the draft. This could be the most talented secondary of the Reese era. Offensively the Giants need help on the right side of the OL and that's it.
Agreed, except that I wanted an OT even more than you did.
Nah, I've been all-in on Stanley and Conklin for a while. The draft just didn't break right for that.
So glad the Bears traded up for Floyd.
Excuse me, but did you start a thread titled, "Give me Jack Conklin or give me death?" No. That was me.
I wanted OL more than anyone but the talent didn't break that way for us in the draft.
The Giants have made solid picks in every round. All of them can impact this year. No shitty developmental picks or backup QBs. Can't really complain about that.
This could be another 07 draft where I wanted Staley.
On paper our defense is worlds better w FA and the draft. This could be the most talented secondary of the Reese era. Offensively the Giants need help on the right side of the OL and that's it.
Agreed, except that I wanted an OT even more than you did.
Nah, I've been all-in on Stanley and Conklin for a while. The draft just didn't break right for that.
So glad the Bears traded up for Floyd.
Excuse me, but did you start a thread titled, "Give me Jack Conklin or give me death?" No. That was me.
Lol
No but I got accused of being an idiot for focusing on OT multiple times.
Think of Tiki in his first few years behind a so-so run blocking line. It wasn't pretty, and a lot of Tiki's big plays came from his own magic in avoiding the front 4 that sliced through our line.
Well... Paul Perkins has got that same sort of movement and it will especially come in handy with the current right side.
And, then, when we fix the O-line in 2017, watch out!
Paul Perkins can do some real damage.
A wonderful, wonderful all-around running back!!!
When he runs he reminds me of Jennings - maybe more elusive
the way he runs a little upright is a little unique, doesn't seem as compact as Tiki or Devonta Freeman for example. Also doesn't seem nearly as elusive as McCoy. Like Jennings he seems to make 1 cut, run pretty tough, finish runs, has a little more long speed that you'd expect considering he isn't a all that quick, though as I said he seems to have more wiggle.
Dude, I am talking ABOUT SINCE THE END OF LAST SEASON!
Youth once again is wasted on the young, ugh!
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what contribution do you expect from someone in the 5th round? Bobby Hart is going to get a crack at competing for RT, and he flashed some good things last year. We got Hart in the 6th round, but it's extremely rare to expect contribution that late for OL.
Don't bother. So much stupid around here
People have a right to bitch about the OL, he hasn't done
anything to improve the OL. Please stop folks, with
the Bobby Hart parade, he would be the first late round pick
to do something here on the OL. Go look at the long list.
He failed in FA too, the only lineman from other teams at this stage of the game are scraps, not starter material.
Lets sign Louis Vazquez, LOL.
How has he done nothing with the OL. 3 years in a row he spent a 1st or 2nd round pick on the OL. Each started from day one and all 3 are still starters and helping solidify an improving and young OL. While a high pick on OL would have been nice, there was not really a guy available worthy of the 10th pick. Let's have faith that they either can add at least one decent veteran in June or Hart really is as good as some think, including their own coaches.
RE: When he runs he reminds me of Jennings - maybe more elusive
the way he runs a little upright is a little unique, doesn't seem as compact as Tiki or Devonta Freeman for example. Also doesn't seem nearly as elusive as McCoy. Like Jennings he seems to make 1 cut, run pretty tough, finish runs, has a little more long speed that you'd expect considering he isn't a all that quick, though as I said he seems to have more wiggle.
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I think this guy has more wiggle, more magic and more elusiveness than your post suggests. Saw several UCLA games and this guy is a terrific, instinctual runner who is elusive in small space and doesn't have to gear down a whole lot to change directions!
And watch when he strings a few moves together... he makes would-be tacklers look real, real bad.
i like this pick better than the wilson pick he more the giants type of workhorse power back i always thought wilson was an odd choice for them not the size,strength and grinding type RB they usually go for.
he will need to grind unless they have a plan to get davis or maybe bring back beatty to play RT which i would welcome over newhouse right now as that OL especially on the right side will not open up much lanes for him
Wish they had some clips of him catching the ball. God, if we can cobble together a decent O-Line, we will be a friggin' offensive juggernaut this year.
Again with the Pie thread..Now it's peach cobble?
come on man
STFU already. Your opinion is worth as much as your ability to spell.
When was the last time we could say that after the draft?
A rookie 5th round running back doesn't make Vereen obsolete in 2016.
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and I LOVE THIS GUY.
Wish they had some clips of him catching the ball. God, if we can cobble together a decent O-Line, we will be a friggin' offensive juggernaut this year.
Again with the Pie thread..Now it's peach cobble?
Squat Cobbler!
In my opinion they should let him go. He is the highest paid RB on the team.
Reese won't though
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Does this pick potentially make Vereen obsolete? Is his place on the roster secure? (Not sure what his contract states.)
A rookie 5th round running back doesn't make Vereen obsolete in 2016.
exactly...people are jumping on Sy's comment too soon. Competition will decide who stays and who goes if need be..oye vey
When was the last time we could say that after the draft?
Not to be negative, but part of that is because of the absolute garbage roster we have.
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Does this pick potentially make Vereen obsolete? Is his place on the roster secure? (Not sure what his contract states.)
In my opinion they should let him go. He is the highest paid RB on the team.
Reese won't though
How would this affect us with the cap?
I guess the Thompson pick was the one that really pissed me off
I'm over it guys, but still not a Reese fan
RB at 5 is a good player.. worried about my boy Eli, hope Reese has a plan for a Veteran
Me too. Reese should have picked up a rt in free agency. Hopefully, he'll find someone who's an upgrade over Newhouse.
Who isn't good to begin with. I'd rather have Chris Rainey than Bobby Rainey.
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we fired a HOF coach over Reese and Ross... and now we have to deal with this shit
come on man
STFU already. Your opinion is worth as much as your ability to spell.
My opinion is worth as much as yours.. its a fan site, I'm a fan, it is my right to bitch, you don't have to read it or agree.... I worry about Eli, we lose him, we are down
excellent rebuild of the defense, though
OMG over 5 ypc in college?! That's unheard of.
I dont care what RB you draft, they will all struggle if you bring him in for three plays and then sit him on the bench for a quarter.
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it had to take priority
I guess the Thompson pick was the one that really pissed me off
I'm over it guys, but still not a Reese fan
RB at 5 is a good player.. worried about my boy Eli, hope Reese has a plan for a Veteran
Me too. Reese should have picked up a rt in free agency. Hopefully, he'll find someone who's an upgrade over Newhouse.
Thank you, but because , cause if you are not blowing Reese, you get told to STFU
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Every pick so far should see meaningful snaps THIS YEAR barring injury.
When was the last time we could say that after the draft?
Not to be negative, but part of that is because of the absolute garbage roster we have.
Giants are coming off 3 losing seasons in a row. Their roster has had issues for a while.
I dont care what RB you draft, they will all struggle if you bring him in for three plays and then sit him on the bench for a quarter.
excellent point, seemed like Jennings would get rolling, and we'ed put Williams in and the drive would die, like its was his turn in Pop Warner or something
I had very high hopes for Williams after his rookie year
Vereen contract - ( New Window )
Fortunate he didn't do a Jaylon Smith on his knee though.
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Ira, we couldn't close the OT's in FA, we didn't completely ignore it. You have to be smart with what you spend. This isn't the uncapped league anymore where you can just allocate all your 1st rounders to OL and have those 1990's Dallas OL's. They had such a surplus of talent, they had the luxury of losing Ron Stone, who turned out to be pro bowler for us.
#Giants RB @Prime_Perk_24: My measurables might not show up for some teams but I am all heart. I can't wait to play in NY.
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no linemen
You're right. Let's take a lesser player because he plays a position you want them to take. Just stop.
Lol exactly. Good lord. People have such strong opinions at this point it's funny. At this juncture of the draft, shouldn't we just trust advanced scouting?
For all the people who say "don't draft a RB high, because you can find them in the later rounds," well, here we are in the later rounds. This is where you find them.
I'm as disapointed as everyone else that Ronnie Stanley didn't drop to pick 149. But you can only select from the players that are available when you pick.
The Giants have made solid picks in every round. All of them can impact this year. No shitty developmental picks or backup QBs. Can't really complain about that.
This could be another 07 draft where I wanted Staley.
On paper our defense is worlds better w FA and the draft. This could be the most talented secondary of the Reese era. Offensively the Giants need help on the right side of the OL and that's it.
Agreed, except that I wanted an OT even more than you did.
I am glad he did and I am glad the Giants took him.
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or Safeties
reese is a clown, stop making excuses for him
are you just gonna troll all the draft threads an bitch about everything , it's fucking obnoxious. Not sure if you know this but Youre not a scout
we fired a HOF coach over Reese and Ross... and now we have to deal with this shit
come on man
Shut up guy! It's a beautiful Saturday. Go out and enjoy yourself.
that said, the kid looks like he might make a heck of a punt returner, which is something.
For all the people who say "don't draft a RB high, because you can find them in the later rounds," well, here we are in the later rounds. This is where you find them.
I'm as disapointed as everyone else that Ronnie Stanley didn't drop to pick 149. But you can only select from the players that are available when you pick.
Yep.
And for all of the people dick riding Zeke Elliott pre-draft look where most of the top RB prospects went. That's where smart GMs look for RB talent.
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I wanted OL more than anyone but the talent didn't break that way for us in the draft.
The Giants have made solid picks in every round. All of them can impact this year. No shitty developmental picks or backup QBs. Can't really complain about that.
This could be another 07 draft where I wanted Staley.
On paper our defense is worlds better w FA and the draft. This could be the most talented secondary of the Reese era. Offensively the Giants need help on the right side of the OL and that's it.
Agreed, except that I wanted an OT even more than you did.
Nah, I've been all-in on Stanley and Conklin for a while. The draft just didn't break right for that.
So glad the Bears traded up for Floyd.
I like how this all played out for the Giants.
That's some day 3 preview there Sy
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I wanted OL more than anyone but the talent didn't break that way for us in the draft.
The Giants have made solid picks in every round. All of them can impact this year. No shitty developmental picks or backup QBs. Can't really complain about that.
This could be another 07 draft where I wanted Staley.
On paper our defense is worlds better w FA and the draft. This could be the most talented secondary of the Reese era. Offensively the Giants need help on the right side of the OL and that's it.
Agreed, except that I wanted an OT even more than you did.
Nah, I've been all-in on Stanley and Conklin for a while. The draft just didn't break right for that.
So glad the Bears traded up for Floyd.
Excuse me, but did you start a thread titled, "Give me Jack Conklin or give me death?" No. That was me.
I would totally agree with this. Most OL after round 4 are just not that good. Diehl the obvious exception.
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In comment 12937025 JohnVB said:
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I wanted OL more than anyone but the talent didn't break that way for us in the draft.
The Giants have made solid picks in every round. All of them can impact this year. No shitty developmental picks or backup QBs. Can't really complain about that.
This could be another 07 draft where I wanted Staley.
On paper our defense is worlds better w FA and the draft. This could be the most talented secondary of the Reese era. Offensively the Giants need help on the right side of the OL and that's it.
Agreed, except that I wanted an OT even more than you did.
Nah, I've been all-in on Stanley and Conklin for a while. The draft just didn't break right for that.
So glad the Bears traded up for Floyd.
Excuse me, but did you start a thread titled, "Give me Jack Conklin or give me death?" No. That was me.
Lol
No but I got accused of being an idiot for focusing on OT multiple times.
Think of Tiki in his first few years behind a so-so run blocking line. It wasn't pretty, and a lot of Tiki's big plays came from his own magic in avoiding the front 4 that sliced through our line.
Well... Paul Perkins has got that same sort of movement and it will especially come in handy with the current right side.
And, then, when we fix the O-line in 2017, watch out!
Paul Perkins can do some real damage.
A wonderful, wonderful all-around running back!!!
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Dude, I am talking ABOUT SINCE THE END OF LAST SEASON!
Youth once again is wasted on the young, ugh!
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what contribution do you expect from someone in the 5th round? Bobby Hart is going to get a crack at competing for RT, and he flashed some good things last year. We got Hart in the 6th round, but it's extremely rare to expect contribution that late for OL.
Don't bother. So much stupid around here
People have a right to bitch about the OL, he hasn't done
anything to improve the OL. Please stop folks, with
the Bobby Hart parade, he would be the first late round pick
to do something here on the OL. Go look at the long list.
He failed in FA too, the only lineman from other teams at this stage of the game are scraps, not starter material.
Lets sign Louis Vazquez, LOL.
How has he done nothing with the OL. 3 years in a row he spent a 1st or 2nd round pick on the OL. Each started from day one and all 3 are still starters and helping solidify an improving and young OL. While a high pick on OL would have been nice, there was not really a guy available worthy of the 10th pick. Let's have faith that they either can add at least one decent veteran in June or Hart really is as good as some think, including their own coaches.
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I think this guy has more wiggle, more magic and more elusiveness than your post suggests. Saw several UCLA games and this guy is a terrific, instinctual runner who is elusive in small space and doesn't have to gear down a whole lot to change directions!
And watch when he strings a few moves together... he makes would-be tacklers look real, real bad.
Giants fans will come to love this guy!!!
he will need to grind unless they have a plan to get davis or maybe bring back beatty to play RT which i would welcome over newhouse right now as that OL especially on the right side will not open up much lanes for him
"Paul Perkins is an all-around back who can run, catch and block." - Jerry Reese
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Jerry Reese says Paul Perkins is a 3-down back #Giants