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New York Giants 5th Round Pick: RB Paul Perkins

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2016 2:24 pm
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RE: Just saw the highlight reel  
Big Blue '56 : 4/30/2016 3:18 pm : link
In comment 12937052 Montreal Man said:
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and I LOVE THIS GUY.

Wish they had some clips of him catching the ball. God, if we can cobble together a decent O-Line, we will be a friggin' offensive juggernaut this year.


Again with the Pie thread..Now it's peach cobble?
RE: RE: RE: cause we dont have enough RB's  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/30/2016 3:19 pm : link
In comment 12936893 Paulie Walnuts said:
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we fired a HOF coach over Reese and Ross... and now we have to deal with this shit

come on man

STFU already. Your opinion is worth as much as your ability to spell.
Keep in mind  
JohnVB : 4/30/2016 3:21 pm : link
Every pick so far should see meaningful snaps THIS YEAR barring injury.

When was the last time we could say that after the draft?

? For anyone  
5BowlsSoon : 4/30/2016 3:21 pm : link
Does this pick potentially make Vereen obsolete? Is his place on the roster secure? (Not sure what his contract states.)
Drango to CLE  
Sy'56 : 4/30/2016 3:22 pm : link
Nice job by them
RE: ? For anyone  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2016 3:22 pm : link
In comment 12937064 5BowlsSoon said:
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Does this pick potentially make Vereen obsolete? Is his place on the roster secure? (Not sure what his contract states.)


A rookie 5th round running back doesn't make Vereen obsolete in 2016.
RE: RE: Just saw the highlight reel  
BMac : 4/30/2016 3:22 pm : link
In comment 12937054 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 12937052 Montreal Man said:


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and I LOVE THIS GUY.

Wish they had some clips of him catching the ball. God, if we can cobble together a decent O-Line, we will be a friggin' offensive juggernaut this year.



Again with the Pie thread..Now it's peach cobble?


Squat Cobbler!
RE: ? For anyone  
Sy'56 : 4/30/2016 3:22 pm : link
In comment 12937064 5BowlsSoon said:
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Does this pick potentially make Vereen obsolete? Is his place on the roster secure? (Not sure what his contract states.)


In my opinion they should let him go. He is the highest paid RB on the team.

Reese won't though
RE: RE: ? For anyone  
micky : 4/30/2016 3:23 pm : link
In comment 12937068 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 12937064 5BowlsSoon said:


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Does this pick potentially make Vereen obsolete? Is his place on the roster secure? (Not sure what his contract states.)



A rookie 5th round running back doesn't make Vereen obsolete in 2016.


exactly...people are jumping on Sy's comment too soon. Competition will decide who stays and who goes if need be..oye vey
RE: Keep in mind  
FStubbs : 4/30/2016 3:23 pm : link
In comment 12937063 JohnVB said:
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Every pick so far should see meaningful snaps THIS YEAR barring injury.

When was the last time we could say that after the draft?


Not to be negative, but part of that is because of the absolute garbage roster we have.
who  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2016 3:24 pm : link
is pissed off right now is Bobby Rainey.
RE: RE: ? For anyone  
5BowlsSoon : 4/30/2016 3:24 pm : link
In comment 12937072 Sy'56 said:
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In comment 12937064 5BowlsSoon said:


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Does this pick potentially make Vereen obsolete? Is his place on the roster secure? (Not sure what his contract states.)



In my opinion they should let him go. He is the highest paid RB on the team.

Reese won't though


How would this affect us with the cap?
RE: The defense was so putrid  
Ira : 4/30/2016 3:24 pm : link
In comment 12937029 Paulie Walnuts said:
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it had to take priority

I guess the Thompson pick was the one that really pissed me off

I'm over it guys, but still not a Reese fan

RB at 5 is a good player.. worried about my boy Eli, hope Reese has a plan for a Veteran


Me too. Reese should have picked up a rt in free agency. Hopefully, he'll find someone who's an upgrade over Newhouse.
RE: who  
Anakim : 4/30/2016 3:24 pm : link
In comment 12937075 Eric from BBI said:
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is pissed off right now is Bobby Rainey.


Who isn't good to begin with. I'd rather have Chris Rainey than Bobby Rainey.
RE: RE: RE: RE: cause we dont have enough RB's  
Paulie Walnuts : 4/30/2016 3:26 pm : link
In comment 12937055 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 12936893 Paulie Walnuts said:


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we fired a HOF coach over Reese and Ross... and now we have to deal with this shit

come on man


STFU already. Your opinion is worth as much as your ability to spell.


My opinion is worth as much as yours.. its a fan site, I'm a fan, it is my right to bitch, you don't have to read it or agree.... I worry about Eli, we lose him, we are down

excellent rebuild of the defense, though
RE: WOW!  
chris r : 4/30/2016 3:26 pm : link
In comment 12937008 mdthedream said:
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If you don't like what you see there than something is wrong with you. The kid has it all over 5 yards a carry. Kid looks like a stud!


OMG over 5 ypc in college?! That's unheard of.
This is all great but...  
EricJ : 4/30/2016 3:27 pm : link
if this running back by committee shit continues then our running game may continue to be a disaster. We will see this season whether all of that crap was TC or McAdoo.

I dont care what RB you draft, they will all struggle if you bring him in for three plays and then sit him on the bench for a quarter.
RE: RE: The defense was so putrid  
Paulie Walnuts : 4/30/2016 3:27 pm : link
In comment 12937079 Ira said:
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In comment 12937029 Paulie Walnuts said:


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it had to take priority

I guess the Thompson pick was the one that really pissed me off

I'm over it guys, but still not a Reese fan

RB at 5 is a good player.. worried about my boy Eli, hope Reese has a plan for a Veteran



Me too. Reese should have picked up a rt in free agency. Hopefully, he'll find someone who's an upgrade over Newhouse.


Thank you, but because , cause if you are not blowing Reese, you get told to STFU
RE: RE: Keep in mind  
JohnVB : 4/30/2016 3:27 pm : link
In comment 12937074 FStubbs said:
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In comment 12937063 JohnVB said:


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Every pick so far should see meaningful snaps THIS YEAR barring injury.

When was the last time we could say that after the draft?




Not to be negative, but part of that is because of the absolute garbage roster we have.


Giants are coming off 3 losing seasons in a row. Their roster has had issues for a while.
Vern did nothing last year  
GMen23 : 4/30/2016 3:28 pm : link
I would have no problem moving on from him.
RE: This is all great but...  
Paulie Walnuts : 4/30/2016 3:29 pm : link
In comment 12937091 EricJ said:
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if this running back by committee shit continues then our running game may continue to be a disaster. We will see this season whether all of that crap was TC or McAdoo.

I dont care what RB you draft, they will all struggle if you bring him in for three plays and then sit him on the bench for a quarter.


excellent point, seemed like Jennings would get rolling, and we'ed put Williams in and the drive would die, like its was his turn in Pop Warner or something

I had very high hopes for Williams after his rookie year
Vereen contract details  
5BowlsSoon : 4/30/2016 3:29 pm : link
For those who need to be reminded, like me, are linked below.
Vereen contract - ( New Window )
High school highlights are usually pretty meaningless  
shyster : 4/30/2016 3:30 pm : link
but the balance in this one is freaky.

Fortunate he didn't do a Jaylon Smith on his knee though.
Link - ( New Window )
What???  
santacruzom : 4/30/2016 3:31 pm : link
I lowed watching Perkins run in the few UCLA games I caught... freaking awesome!
Paulie, you can criticize the pick all you want  
David in LA : 4/30/2016 3:32 pm : link
you're just not choosing to do so with any intelligence.

Ira, we couldn't close the OT's in FA, we didn't completely ignore it. You have to be smart with what you spend. This isn't the uncapped league anymore where you can just allocate all your 1st rounders to OL and have those 1990's Dallas OL's. They had such a surplus of talent, they had the luxury of losing Ron Stone, who turned out to be pro bowler for us.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2016 3:33 pm : link
SiriusXM NFL Radio ‏@SiriusXMNFL 1m1 minute ago Manhattan, NY

#Giants RB @Prime_Perk_24: My measurables might not show up for some teams but I am all heart. I can't wait to play in NY.
RE: RE: arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  
Craigg619 : 4/30/2016 3:35 pm : link
In comment 12936809 Gatorade Dunk said:
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no linemen


You're right. Let's take a lesser player because he plays a position you want them to take. Just stop.


Lol exactly. Good lord. People have such strong opinions at this point it's funny. At this juncture of the draft, shouldn't we just trust advanced scouting?
I wouldn't cut vereen  
Mike B from JC : 4/30/2016 3:36 pm : link
Very good receiver. I'd cut Williams. He's getting worse instead of better. Jennings and Perkins 1 and 2. Veteran on passing downs.
Both TV shows loved the pick  
Jon C. in MD : 4/30/2016 3:37 pm : link
Everyone at NFLN and ESPN loved the pick. I was going to transcribe, but realized my effort would be rewarded with more idiotic comments.

For all the people who say "don't draft a RB high, because you can find them in the later rounds," well, here we are in the later rounds. This is where you find them.

I'm as disapointed as everyone else that Ronnie Stanley didn't drop to pick 149. But you can only select from the players that are available when you pick.
RE: As I said earlier  
Klaatu : 4/30/2016 3:38 pm : link
In comment 12937025 JohnVB said:
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I wanted OL more than anyone but the talent didn't break that way for us in the draft.

The Giants have made solid picks in every round. All of them can impact this year. No shitty developmental picks or backup QBs. Can't really complain about that.

This could be another 07 draft where I wanted Staley.

On paper our defense is worlds better w FA and the draft. This could be the most talented secondary of the Reese era. Offensively the Giants need help on the right side of the OL and that's it.


Agreed, except that I wanted an OT even more than you did.
From what I am reading now ...  
short lease : 4/30/2016 3:39 pm : link
How the heck did he last till the 5th round?

I am glad he did and I am glad the Giants took him.
RE: RE: RE: cause we dont have enough RB's  
Craigg619 : 4/30/2016 3:40 pm : link
In comment 12936893 Paulie Walnuts said:
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or Safeties

reese is a clown, stop making excuses for him



are you just gonna troll all the draft threads an bitch about everything , it's fucking obnoxious. Not sure if you know this but Youre not a scout



we fired a HOF coach over Reese and Ross... and now we have to deal with this shit

come on man


Shut up guy! It's a beautiful Saturday. Go out and enjoy yourself.
given all I probably would have taken another LB or FS  
idiotsavant : 4/30/2016 3:42 pm : link
in that spot,



that said, the kid looks like he might make a heck of a punt returner, which is something.
Did I miss a memo?  
Greg from LI : 4/30/2016 3:42 pm : link
Why are people taking Paulie threads seriously?
RE: Both TV shows loved the pick  
JohnVB : 4/30/2016 3:42 pm : link
In comment 12937137 Jon C. in MD said:
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Everyone at NFLN and ESPN loved the pick. I was going to transcribe, but realized my effort would be rewarded with more idiotic comments.

For all the people who say "don't draft a RB high, because you can find them in the later rounds," well, here we are in the later rounds. This is where you find them.

I'm as disapointed as everyone else that Ronnie Stanley didn't drop to pick 149. But you can only select from the players that are available when you pick.


Yep.

And for all of the people dick riding Zeke Elliott pre-draft look where most of the top RB prospects went. That's where smart GMs look for RB talent.
Threads, posts, whatever  
Greg from LI : 4/30/2016 3:43 pm : link
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RE: RE: As I said earlier  
JohnVB : 4/30/2016 3:45 pm : link
In comment 12937145 Klaatu said:
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In comment 12937025 JohnVB said:


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I wanted OL more than anyone but the talent didn't break that way for us in the draft.

The Giants have made solid picks in every round. All of them can impact this year. No shitty developmental picks or backup QBs. Can't really complain about that.

This could be another 07 draft where I wanted Staley.

On paper our defense is worlds better w FA and the draft. This could be the most talented secondary of the Reese era. Offensively the Giants need help on the right side of the OL and that's it.




Agreed, except that I wanted an OT even more than you did.


Nah, I've been all-in on Stanley and Conklin for a while. The draft just didn't break right for that.

So glad the Bears traded up for Floyd.
After reading and viewing film  
5BowlsSoon : 4/30/2016 3:45 pm : link
I'm all in on this kid. We have no one like him. No one can be as elusive and provide the break a way ability like a tiki barber. Jennings is more of a plodder, Williams is useless, Cereen is pretty much a pass catcher, and Rainey is obsolete now.
Paul Perkins over those 2 Arkansas animals  
ghost718 : 4/30/2016 3:46 pm : link
Yeah,that's gonna work out real well Jerry
Given  
Pork Chop : 4/30/2016 3:47 pm : link
that it would have taken a 5th rounder--at least--to move up in the 1st or 2nd round, this is the pick that would have been given up.

I like how this all played out for the Giants.
another pick that Sy nailed in his forecast  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/30/2016 3:50 pm : link
!!!

That's some day 3 preview there Sy
RE: RE: RE: As I said earlier  
Klaatu : 4/30/2016 3:51 pm : link
In comment 12937178 JohnVB said:
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In comment 12937025 JohnVB said:


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I wanted OL more than anyone but the talent didn't break that way for us in the draft.

The Giants have made solid picks in every round. All of them can impact this year. No shitty developmental picks or backup QBs. Can't really complain about that.

This could be another 07 draft where I wanted Staley.

On paper our defense is worlds better w FA and the draft. This could be the most talented secondary of the Reese era. Offensively the Giants need help on the right side of the OL and that's it.




Agreed, except that I wanted an OT even more than you did.



Nah, I've been all-in on Stanley and Conklin for a while. The draft just didn't break right for that.

So glad the Bears traded up for Floyd.


Excuse me, but did you start a thread titled, "Give me Jack Conklin or give me death?" No. That was me.
RE: Don't stress about the OL  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/30/2016 3:52 pm : link
In comment 12936772 Sy'56 said:
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Whoever is availble via the draft...a similar guy can be had in UDFA and veteran FA right now.


I would totally agree with this. Most OL after round 4 are just not that good. Diehl the obvious exception.
RE: RE: RE: RE: As I said earlier  
JohnVB : 4/30/2016 3:54 pm : link
In comment 12937207 Klaatu said:
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In comment 12937178 JohnVB said:


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In comment 12937145 Klaatu said:


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In comment 12937025 JohnVB said:


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I wanted OL more than anyone but the talent didn't break that way for us in the draft.

The Giants have made solid picks in every round. All of them can impact this year. No shitty developmental picks or backup QBs. Can't really complain about that.

This could be another 07 draft where I wanted Staley.

On paper our defense is worlds better w FA and the draft. This could be the most talented secondary of the Reese era. Offensively the Giants need help on the right side of the OL and that's it.




Agreed, except that I wanted an OT even more than you did.



Nah, I've been all-in on Stanley and Conklin for a while. The draft just didn't break right for that.

So glad the Bears traded up for Floyd.



Excuse me, but did you start a thread titled, "Give me Jack Conklin or give me death?" No. That was me.


Lol

No but I got accused of being an idiot for focusing on OT multiple times.
Perkins is the perfect running back...  
M.S. : 4/30/2016 3:54 pm : link
...for this current offensive line.

Think of Tiki in his first few years behind a so-so run blocking line. It wasn't pretty, and a lot of Tiki's big plays came from his own magic in avoiding the front 4 that sliced through our line.

Well... Paul Perkins has got that same sort of movement and it will especially come in handy with the current right side.

And, then, when we fix the O-line in 2017, watch out!

Paul Perkins can do some real damage.

A wonderful, wonderful all-around running back!!!
When he runs he reminds me of Jennings - maybe more elusive  
Eric on Li : 4/30/2016 3:56 pm : link
the way he runs a little upright is a little unique, doesn't seem as compact as Tiki or Devonta Freeman for example. Also doesn't seem nearly as elusive as McCoy. Like Jennings he seems to make 1 cut, run pretty tough, finish runs, has a little more long speed that you'd expect considering he isn't a all that quick, though as I said he seems to have more wiggle.
RE: RE: RE: RE: To those bitching about the OL  
Carson53 : 4/30/2016 4:04 pm : link
In comment 12937030 Matt M. said:
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Dude, I am talking ABOUT SINCE THE END OF LAST SEASON!
Youth once again is wasted on the young, ugh!


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what contribution do you expect from someone in the 5th round? Bobby Hart is going to get a crack at competing for RT, and he flashed some good things last year. We got Hart in the 6th round, but it's extremely rare to expect contribution that late for OL.



Don't bother. So much stupid around here





People have a right to bitch about the OL, he hasn't done
anything to improve the OL. Please stop folks, with
the Bobby Hart parade, he would be the first late round pick
to do something here on the OL. Go look at the long list.
He failed in FA too, the only lineman from other teams at this stage of the game are scraps, not starter material.
Lets sign Louis Vazquez, LOL.

How has he done nothing with the OL. 3 years in a row he spent a 1st or 2nd round pick on the OL. Each started from day one and all 3 are still starters and helping solidify an improving and young OL. While a high pick on OL would have been nice, there was not really a guy available worthy of the 10th pick. Let's have faith that they either can add at least one decent veteran in June or Hart really is as good as some think, including their own coaches.
RE: When he runs he reminds me of Jennings - maybe more elusive  
M.S. : 4/30/2016 4:04 pm : link
In comment 12937234 Eric on Li said:
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the way he runs a little upright is a little unique, doesn't seem as compact as Tiki or Devonta Freeman for example. Also doesn't seem nearly as elusive as McCoy. Like Jennings he seems to make 1 cut, run pretty tough, finish runs, has a little more long speed that you'd expect considering he isn't a all that quick, though as I said he seems to have more wiggle.

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I think this guy has more wiggle, more magic and more elusiveness than your post suggests. Saw several UCLA games and this guy is a terrific, instinctual runner who is elusive in small space and doesn't have to gear down a whole lot to change directions!

And watch when he strings a few moves together... he makes would-be tacklers look real, real bad.

Giants fans will come to love this guy!!!
this guy is very good  
msh : 4/30/2016 4:10 pm : link
i like this pick better than the wilson pick he more the giants type of workhorse power back i always thought wilson was an odd choice for them not the size,strength and grinding type RB they usually go for.

he will need to grind unless they have a plan to get davis or maybe bring back beatty to play RT which i would welcome over newhouse right now as that OL especially on the right side will not open up much lanes for him
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2016 4:18 pm : link
New York Giants ‏@Giants 2m2 minutes ago

"Paul Perkins is an all-around back who can run, catch and block." - Jerry Reese

Jordan Raanan ‏@JordanRaanan 1m1 minute ago

Jerry Reese says Paul Perkins is a 3-down back #Giants
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