out there that the Giants can scoop up? Doesn't have to be a guy that knocks your socks off just someone who can create some competition and not stink up the place.
As I follow college players for the draft more than the free agent market, anyone that can assist with leaving a long FA RT list below would be anything but an unpleasant surprise.
Could use a 2017 pick & Darkwa or Andre Williams.
Lol
the only major hole is RT and depth for OL and DL....Safety we have two young starter and decent depth. TE we have 3 young guys who will compete...those arent holes.
I probably would have gambled more at Safety than the OL. For the life of me, I still don't understand why they weren't more aggressive in the first days of FA with regard to the OL not just starters but back ups as well.
Also Louis Vasquez is still out there for the potential RG spot
Where Reese shows that he is not an upper echelon GM is our failure to land Russell Okung in a deal like he signed at Denver. We could more than live with that deal.
You talk about laying a big, fat hanging softball, that gave me my first big laugh of the day.
I thought I had read that the issue with signing Okung was that he wanted to play LT and the Giants didn't want to move Flowers.
What's currently on the roster at RT is disappointing(being kind). Sadly we had so many positions of concern to address in the Draft we couldn't solve all our problems.
Would you leave your job security in the hands of Newhouse and Jerry if you could do something about it? Reese knows his job is on the line if this team falls on it's face. Expect a move to shore up the right side of the line. Maybe it's an OG maybe a RT. I don't believe the FO is done here.
Flowers ability at LT is apt to turn out to be like Pugh's ability at LT. NFL is littered with college LTs who cannot translate to the NFL at that position.
In short, Flowers is not running the team.
Louis Vasquez is a guy I would look at real close. Solid veteran and very veraatile; can play OG or RT. Still only 29 years old.
I'd put Hart at RT, Vasquez at RG and go to work.
Where Reese shows that he is not an upper echelon GM is our failure to land Russell Okung in a deal like he signed at Denver. We could more than live with that deal.
Upper echelon GMs sign a soon to be 29 year old, never finished a 16 game season, coming off injury tackle to a 5 year 53 million dollar contract? He averages 4 missed games a year. Granted the contract with the Bronco's makes him easily cut, but you are still paying $10 million plus for a player that is not going to play all 16 games.
Isn't this type of signing the big knock against Reese? And are we not trying to get younger and healthier?
Bob, Hart played two partial years as LT for FSU and two years as RT protecting Winston. I don't think movement is his problem. He supposedly has good feet but sloppy. You don't play for a national champion team as a 4 year starter OT and be a bad player.
At worst he is a depth player as guard and tackle. Based on where the Giants are using him in mini-camp he is looked at as RT. I believe I read he was told to slim down and work on his feet. Get rid of the baby fat, beef up.
He may not be the answer, but based on his work at FSU, he could be a starter.
Flowers ability at LT is apt to turn out to be like Pugh's ability at LT. NFL is littered with college LTs who cannot translate to the NFL at that position.
In short, Flowers is not running the team.
Yeah I'm pretty sure the Giants didn't pass on Okung because Flowers was "running the team" and REFUSED to move to RT. It was the Giant's decision that they didn't want to move Flowers.
Unless there is vast physical development, or a problem at the combine which makes the 40 non-indicative, Hart is not a prospect and the Giants talking him up does not make him a prospect.
I thought we signed a few farts for the OL already, like Cleary?
Newhouse was brought here to be a swing tackle and for obvious reasons. With him starting, our best swing tackle options is our LG, who we want to stay there followed by Jerry. 'Nuff said. It doesn't hurt to have Long here. He'll be 31 at the start of the season. Over the hump but not the hill. He was a Pro Bowl LT and has some experience on the right. He may be able to play guard. You can sign him to the vet min., he has an honest chance, and most likely his last to compete for a starting job. He has to know that.
While we're in the 2 ACL club I'd also sign Amini Silatolu. Another player you can sign to a one year, no risk contract. When healthy (though not often), he's an above average guard and only 27.
Newhouse was brought here to be a swing tackle and for obvious reasons. With him starting, our best swing tackle options is our LG, who we want to stay there followed by Jerry. 'Nuff said. It doesn't hurt to have Long here. He'll be 31 at the start of the season. Over the hump but not the hill. He was a Pro Bowl LT and has some experience on the right. He may be able to play guard. You can sign him to the vet min., he has an honest chance, and most likely his last to compete for a starting job. He has to know that.
While we're in the 2 ACL club I'd also sign Amini Silatolu. Another player you can sign to a one year, no risk contract. When healthy (though not often), he's an above average guard and only 27.
That’s a great analysis. I guess the question is whether the Giants think Long is an upgrade over Newhouse. Maybe he’s someone they call now that the draft is over, but my guess is that they just stick with Newhouse, Hart, and Stingily.
I find it amazing that BBI want to put Davis in this HOF category of RT - he is OK. He sure as hell never played up to his 1st rd draft position
If your best OL are C-LG-LT, run left. The Niners sure did it with Staley & Iupati
Sy, Have you heard anything about a trade for Davis or someone else?
Bobby Hart has a chance to supplant Newhouse at RT, but it's a slim one. Still, I wouldn't close the book on Hart completely. He just turned 22 and reportedly he's been working very hard in the offseason. No surprise that he took some snaps at RT with the first team in mini-camp.
Too many holes to fill in one off season, even the FS, ILB, etc will be hard pressed to earn a starting gig. Fans tend to not accept it.
Seattle’s OL was weak. So was NE. On and on.
I do think however we are in a Great Cap situation.
And if Jerry wants to take on a contract from somebody up against Cap,
and give up a late pick next year and/or RB he has the Cap space to do it.