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Is there a FA RT still lingering

Mark from Jersey : 5/1/2016 9:11 am
out there that the Giants can scoop up? Doesn't have to be a guy that knocks your socks off just someone who can create some competition and not stink up the place.

As I follow college players for the draft more than the free agent market, anyone that can assist with leaving a long FA RT list below would be anything but an unpleasant surprise.
Not really  
Big Rick in FL : 5/1/2016 9:13 am : link
The OT market is basically dried up. I think they make a trade. Idk if it's for Anthony Davis, but they might have something up their sleeve.

Could use a 2017 pick & Darkwa or Andre Williams.
There is definitely a FART still lingering.  
robbieballs2003 : 5/1/2016 9:16 am : link
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Again,  
Big Blue '56 : 5/1/2016 9:17 am : link
if nothing materializes, I think they can survive with Hart (ORT) and Jerry...I'm not concerned. The main reason we were 6-10 instead of 10-6 was the D..That's been nicely upgraded
New guy isn't always better  
Sy'56 : 5/1/2016 9:20 am : link
At this point any FA RT is not going to necessarily be better....and continuity on the OL has some value. So I think NYG is heading in to the season with their current group of starters. Perhaps they upgrade the backups though.
They really need better depth  
Reb8thVA : 5/1/2016 9:22 am : link
Right now. Unless they can swing a deal for Davis, they pretty much have made their bed and have to sleep in it. The various flotsam and jetsam Reese signed right before the draft is generally camp fodder. They need another swing Tackle and I would think another Guard in case either Jerry or Newhouse go down for an extended period.
I'm  
AcidTest : 5/1/2016 9:24 am : link
concerned, but I don’t think we’ll trade for Davis, as much as so many want us to. I think it will be Newhouse, Hart, and Stingily. This team has a lot of holes, at OL, TE, and S. There is little depth at many positions.
RE: There is definitely a FART still lingering.  
thomasa510 : 5/1/2016 9:26 am : link
In comment 12938389 robbieballs2003 said:
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Lol
If Loadholt proves healthy could/should we trade for him  
robbieballs2003 : 5/1/2016 9:26 am : link
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Usually  
Shadow : 5/1/2016 9:28 am : link
it hangs around in the sheets for a while.
RE: There is definitely a FART still lingering.  
Hades07 : 5/1/2016 9:30 am : link
In comment 12938389 robbieballs2003 said:
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fan the blankets man
RE: I'm  
BleedBlue : 5/1/2016 9:31 am : link
In comment 12938402 AcidTest said:
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concerned, but I don’t think we’ll trade for Davis, as much as so many want us to. I think it will be Newhouse, Hart, and Stingily. This team has a lot of holes, at OL, TE, and S. There is little depth at many positions.


the only major hole is RT and depth for OL and DL....Safety we have two young starter and decent depth. TE we have 3 young guys who will compete...those arent holes.
They are going use the youngstes  
MotownGIANTS : 5/1/2016 9:32 am : link
I think Hart is going to be given a shot @RT
Didn't we bring in three guys  
Shadow : 5/1/2016 9:35 am : link
Solari loves?
RE: I'm  
Reb8thVA : 5/1/2016 9:35 am : link
In comment 12938402 AcidTest said:
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concerned, but I don’t think we’ll trade for Davis, as much as so many want us to. I think it will be Newhouse, Hart, and Stingily. This team has a lot of holes, at OL, TE, and S. There is little depth at many positions.


I probably would have gambled more at Safety than the OL. For the life of me, I still don't understand why they weren't more aggressive in the first days of FA with regard to the OL not just starters but back ups as well.
Is there a chance they move Pugh back to RT  
Shadow : 5/1/2016 9:40 am : link
and sign a guard?
If Davis wants to be traded  
Rflairr : 5/1/2016 9:42 am : link
he better start making more noise than he currently is.

Also Louis Vasquez is still out there for the potential RG spot
Unless Hart was totally lazy during his college career  
Bob in Newburgh : 5/1/2016 9:44 am : link
Projecting him as your starting RT is an exercise in fantasyland. All of those Giants swings and misses (Brewer etc.) had far better movement skills than he has.

Where Reese shows that he is not an upper echelon GM is our failure to land Russell Okung in a deal like he signed at Denver. We could more than live with that deal.
RE: There is definitely a FART still lingering.  
barens : 5/1/2016 9:52 am : link
In comment 12938389 robbieballs2003 said:
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You talk about laying a big, fat hanging softball, that gave me my first big laugh of the day.
RE: Unless Hart was totally lazy during his college career  
Jim in Tampa : 5/1/2016 9:52 am : link
In comment 12938436 Bob in Newburgh said:
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Where Reese shows that he is not an upper echelon GM is our failure to land Russell Okung in a deal like he signed at Denver. We could more than live with that deal.


I thought I had read that the issue with signing Okung was that he wanted to play LT and the Giants didn't want to move Flowers.
didn't Brewer  
bc4life : 5/1/2016 9:53 am : link
have a limited career in college?
Good news we drafted a TE  
Shadow : 5/1/2016 9:55 am : link
that can help Newhouse double team the other guy.
'There is definitely a FART still lingering'...  
Torrag : 5/1/2016 9:56 am : link
...good line and yeah his name is Newhouse.

What's currently on the roster at RT is disappointing(being kind). Sadly we had so many positions of concern to address in the Draft we couldn't solve all our problems.

Would you leave your job security in the hands of Newhouse and Jerry if you could do something about it? Reese knows his job is on the line if this team falls on it's face. Expect a move to shore up the right side of the line. Maybe it's an OG maybe a RT. I don't believe the FO is done here.
An organization that could not thrive with bookend tackles  
Bob in Newburgh : 5/1/2016 9:59 am : link
Okung - LT / Flowers - RT is not run by the sharpest knives in the drawer.

Flowers ability at LT is apt to turn out to be like Pugh's ability at LT. NFL is littered with college LTs who cannot translate to the NFL at that position.

In short, Flowers is not running the team.
Not too many options....  
Vin_Cuccs : 5/1/2016 10:03 am : link
Jake Long is still out there and they expressed some interest last year. I believe he had a mediocre year with an injury, but maybe moving to the RT spot will help him.

Louis Vasquez is a guy I would look at real close. Solid veteran and very veraatile; can play OG or RT. Still only 29 years old.

I'd put Hart at RT, Vasquez at RG and go to work.
RE: Unless Hart was totally lazy during his college career  
therealmf : 5/1/2016 10:09 am : link
In comment 12938436 Bob in Newburgh said:
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Projecting him as your starting RT is an exercise in fantasyland. All of those Giants swings and misses (Brewer etc.) had far better movement skills than he has.

Where Reese shows that he is not an upper echelon GM is our failure to land Russell Okung in a deal like he signed at Denver. We could more than live with that deal.


Upper echelon GMs sign a soon to be 29 year old, never finished a 16 game season, coming off injury tackle to a 5 year 53 million dollar contract? He averages 4 missed games a year. Granted the contract with the Bronco's makes him easily cut, but you are still paying $10 million plus for a player that is not going to play all 16 games.

Isn't this type of signing the big knock against Reese? And are we not trying to get younger and healthier?
RE: Unless Hart was totally lazy during his college career  
section125 : 5/1/2016 10:10 am : link
In comment 12938436 Bob in Newburgh said:
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Projecting him as your starting RT is an exercise in fantasyland. All of those Giants swings and misses (Brewer etc.) had far better movement skills than he has.


Bob, Hart played two partial years as LT for FSU and two years as RT protecting Winston. I don't think movement is his problem. He supposedly has good feet but sloppy. You don't play for a national champion team as a 4 year starter OT and be a bad player.

At worst he is a depth player as guard and tackle. Based on where the Giants are using him in mini-camp he is looked at as RT. I believe I read he was told to slim down and work on his feet. Get rid of the baby fat, beef up.
He may not be the answer, but based on his work at FSU, he could be a starter.
RE: An organization that could not thrive with bookend tackles  
Jim in Tampa : 5/1/2016 10:11 am : link
In comment 12938461 Bob in Newburgh said:
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Okung - LT / Flowers - RT is not run by the sharpest knives in the drawer.

Flowers ability at LT is apt to turn out to be like Pugh's ability at LT. NFL is littered with college LTs who cannot translate to the NFL at that position.

In short, Flowers is not running the team.


Yeah I'm pretty sure the Giants didn't pass on Okung because Flowers was "running the team" and REFUSED to move to RT. It was the Giant's decision that they didn't want to move Flowers.
Sign Vasquez  
Ben in Tampa : 5/1/2016 10:12 am : link
And then let things play out
Jones  
EJJ : 5/1/2016 10:16 am : link
What about Jones the center guard they signed from the Canadian Football League last year the best lineman in the Canadian football league for two years was on IR last year.
40 times are not the be-all and end-all  
Bob in Newburgh : 5/1/2016 10:20 am : link
But Hart's 5.6 tells of no possibility of movement skills to be out on an island, and someone you should not waste time developing for the interior.

Unless there is vast physical development, or a problem at the combine which makes the 40 non-indicative, Hart is not a prospect and the Giants talking him up does not make him a prospect.
All the remaining FA RTs still stink  
Optimus-NY : 5/1/2016 10:25 am : link
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Jones  
Doomster : 5/1/2016 10:25 am : link
was another project, that couldn't get use to lining up....chances are this project is all done....

I thought we signed a few farts for the OL already, like Cleary?
Jake Long is the best option out there  
sjnyfan : 5/1/2016 10:42 am : link
He has an extensive injury history including back to back years with ACL tears. However he is two years removed from it and hopefully his limited role in Atlanta last year has given him the time to heal up. Long met with the Giants last summer and I'm sure they still have his latest contact info.

Newhouse was brought here to be a swing tackle and for obvious reasons. With him starting, our best swing tackle options is our LG, who we want to stay there followed by Jerry. 'Nuff said. It doesn't hurt to have Long here. He'll be 31 at the start of the season. Over the hump but not the hill. He was a Pro Bowl LT and has some experience on the right. He may be able to play guard. You can sign him to the vet min., he has an honest chance, and most likely his last to compete for a starting job. He has to know that.

While we're in the 2 ACL club I'd also sign Amini Silatolu. Another player you can sign to a one year, no risk contract. When healthy (though not often), he's an above average guard and only 27.
RE: Jake Long is the best option out there  
AcidTest : 5/1/2016 10:45 am : link
In comment 12938514 sjnyfan said:
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He has an extensive injury history including back to back years with ACL tears. However he is two years removed from it and hopefully his limited role in Atlanta last year has given him the time to heal up. Long met with the Giants last summer and I'm sure they still have his latest contact info.

Newhouse was brought here to be a swing tackle and for obvious reasons. With him starting, our best swing tackle options is our LG, who we want to stay there followed by Jerry. 'Nuff said. It doesn't hurt to have Long here. He'll be 31 at the start of the season. Over the hump but not the hill. He was a Pro Bowl LT and has some experience on the right. He may be able to play guard. You can sign him to the vet min., he has an honest chance, and most likely his last to compete for a starting job. He has to know that.

While we're in the 2 ACL club I'd also sign Amini Silatolu. Another player you can sign to a one year, no risk contract. When healthy (though not often), he's an above average guard and only 27.


That’s a great analysis. I guess the question is whether the Giants think Long is an upgrade over Newhouse. Maybe he’s someone they call now that the draft is over, but my guess is that they just stick with Newhouse, Hart, and Stingily.
If anything Hart rg and Newhouse rt  
micky : 5/1/2016 10:48 am : link
And jerry in mix. Next offseason see what breaks in way of rt.
Flowers  
stretch234 : 5/1/2016 10:53 am : link
He has already played better LT than all of the other cant miss LT guys who were drafted earlier

I find it amazing that BBI want to put Davis in this HOF category of RT - he is OK. He sure as hell never played up to his 1st rd draft position

If your best OL are C-LG-LT, run left. The Niners sure did it with Staley & Iupati
Jerry is a very good half a RG - the pass blocking half  
Bob in Newburgh : 5/1/2016 10:55 am : link
Giants should consider subbing him in for non-ambiguous downs. Defense knows you are going to pass anyway. It is not like you would be tipping your hand.
RE: New guy isn't always better  
TheMick7 : 5/1/2016 10:56 am : link
In comment 12938396 Sy'56 said:
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At this point any FA RT is not going to necessarily be better....and continuity on the OL has some value. So I think NYG is heading in to the season with their current group of starters. Perhaps they upgrade the backups though.


Sy, Have you heard anything about a trade for Davis or someone else?
Vasquez would be a marginal improvement over Jerry...  
Klaatu : 5/1/2016 11:00 am : link
But the book on him is the same as Jerry's - decent pass-blocker, below average run-blocker. Might as well keep Jerry.

Bobby Hart has a chance to supplant Newhouse at RT, but it's a slim one. Still, I wouldn't close the book on Hart completely. He just turned 22 and reportedly he's been working very hard in the offseason. No surprise that he took some snaps at RT with the first team in mini-camp.
Like Shadow, I wonder  
CT Charlie : 5/1/2016 11:28 am : link
if the Giants might find a passable guard and move Pugh back to RT for a season, then spend on a tackle in 2017.
Many of the known names  
JonC : 5/1/2016 12:53 pm : link
Have bodies that could be breaking down.

Too many holes to fill in one off season, even the FS, ILB, etc will be hard pressed to earn a starting gig. Fans tend to not accept it.
We're not Alone.  
GMen23 : 5/1/2016 1:13 pm : link
There are a lot of teams with multiple weak starting offensive lineman. One just won the Super Bowl (granted with a superior D).
Seattle’s OL was weak. So was NE. On and on.

I do think however we are in a Great Cap situation.
And if Jerry wants to take on a contract from somebody up against Cap,
and give up a late pick next year and/or RB he has the Cap space to do it.
Any RT that comes in now would be primarily  
Simms11 : 5/1/2016 2:31 pm : link
a stopgap. We could then focus on RTs and other linemen next year. Hopefully all of the draftees and Free Agents pan out as we think and the Giants can solely focus on a few areas next year, like OT. With that said, there may be older vets that could be available for a year or 2. Now is the time for the FO to scour rosters and make phone calls, etc.
I'm in a coffee shop and literally burst out laughing from  
Mike in Long Beach : 5/1/2016 3:49 pm : link
the thread title.
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