Folks here underestimate him but he's got a unique combination of skills. He's fast, can run routes and catch the ball. At 6'2" 260 he's got the size to be an effective blocker though he has to develop better skills there. He played extremely well once he got going last year and has good upside given his excellent athleticism. He isn't going to be beat out by the rookie Adams though I think that Donnell will be.
He earned it with a solid 2015 leading all rookie TE's in receptions but it'll be Adams eventually. He reminds me to much of Jermichael Finley and I'm almost certain McAdoo sees the same of his old TE in GB.
Tye, Adams, LaCrosse is my guess for the 3 TEs. Donnell has failed to really progress. He still makes the same silly plays jumping around and his blocking is lacking. He's had time to develop those skills and hasn't. I think he's run his course here and drafting Adams is the final nail.
Tye, Adams, LaCrosse is my guess for the 3 TEs. Donnell has failed to really progress. He still makes the same silly plays jumping around and his blocking is lacking. He's had time to develop those skills and hasn't. I think he's run his course here and drafting Adams is the final nail.
LaCrosse really? I don't know much about him but beating out Donnell would be kind of an upset...no?
Tye, Adams, LaCrosse is my guess for the 3 TEs. Donnell has failed to really progress. He still makes the same silly plays jumping around and his blocking is lacking. He's had time to develop those skills and hasn't. I think he's run his course here and drafting Adams is the final nail.
LaCrosse really? I don't know much about him but beating out Donnell would be kind of an upset...no?
Yes because he was waive by the Giants and Jets. Both teams looking for TE depth.
I honestly believe it will be Adams. He is the only true in-line TE
Tye, Adams, LaCrosse is my guess for the 3 TEs. Donnell has failed to really progress. He still makes the same silly plays jumping around and his blocking is lacking. He's had time to develop those skills and hasn't. I think he's run his course here and drafting Adams is the final nail.
LaCrosse really? I don't know much about him but beating out Donnell would be kind of an upset...no?
Like I said, what has Donnell shown in term of improvement? He still can't block, he still does that stupid jump in the air on contact nonsense. Sure he's athletic and can catch but there is more to playing TE than that. He doesn't play ST either. I see LaCrosse as an all around player. Not as good as a pass catcher but better at blocking and can play ST.
He seems to be a better receiver in traffic...most of Tye's receptions, he was left alone by the defense as an afterthought....that won't happen this season...he will get more attention after what he did when Donnell went down.....
I like Cunningham....just doesn't have the experience....
LaCrosse is practice squad....
It will be interesting to see what Adams does in camp....
Gotta think Tye has the upper hand out of the gate
But I'd say this is going to come down to blocking. Both Tye and Adams are natural pass catchers and I wouldn't be surprised to see some more 2 TE sets this season featuring both of them, especially splitting one out to create some mismatches with LBers and some safeties. But Tye did have some issues as a blocker. By all accounts Adams is a willing blocker and stronger than his somewhat spindly frame would suggest. But, and this is true of nearly every TE prospect, he's going to have to bulk up and get stronger to be an effective in-line blocker at the NFL level.
I'll say Tye, given he has edge in experience and his surprise performance as a rookie. But if Adams picks up the pro game as quickly as Tye did he will be starting at some point this season. It's going to be a very fun camp to watch as this team transitions to a new coach and The "reloading" process takes shape. The entire draft class will be under the microscope with 3 rookies competing'for starting jobs (Shepard, Thompson, and Perkins) and 3 more looking for significant playing time (Apple, Adams, Goodson).
He seems to be a better receiver in traffic...most of Tye's receptions, he was left alone by the defense as an afterthought....that won't happen this season...he will get more attention after what he did when Donnell went down.....
I like Cunningham....just doesn't have the experience....
Lacosse over Donnell? LaCosse is practice squad....
It will be interesting to see what Adams does in camp....
Hard to believe, these TE's still can't block....from what I see, they react to blocking, instead of being aggressive, and going after their guy. Who the hell is their coach? Oh,.....
I predict that the Giants starting TE will be a player who is not . .
a quality NFL TE. Tye comes closest, but to my eye, despite being both strong and fast, he is very stiff and not particularly athletic. Irrespective of Donnell's occasional success, he's a large athlete playing out of position. And that's just how he plays. He doesn't move or play like a TE.
The new guys? We'll see, but I have no reason to think any of them will be more successful than they've recently been.
right now IMO. I think they could bring in Donnell, in certain packages, especially inside the 20. Adams will probably be more of an game day inactive for most of the year, unless he truly suprises.
Starters generally don't lose their spots because of injury. If Tye wants the job, he'll have to beat Donnell out. Obviously, if LD is limited by his injury, he isn't assured of anything. LaCosse, Cunningham and Adams are competing for a roster spot. Sixth round picks don't get much latitude.
is such an unknown is a testament to 36 year old TE coach Kevin Gilbride Jr.
Gilbride was given nothing but undrafted free agents (unless you include the JPP of TEs), and as a group they have done surprisingly well since he became TE coach in 2014.
Until he was hurt, LaCosse looked very good, and nobody was even giving a chance to Tye when last training camp started.
Adding Adams in the 6th gives Gilbride another piece to work with.
McAdoo certainly wanted Gilbride on his first staff and I wouldn't rule out any of the TEs Gilbride has been given for this season. 5 solid players will battle for 3 roster spots.
You can't give every unit on your team Day 1 and Day 2 draft picks, and Gilbride Jr has had the least to work with, but done more than any fan could have expected. Come the season opener, the best 3 will surface.
I think Tye is sufficient as a backup but I don't think much of him as a two way starter. His blocking is okay but his separation, route running, and hands are average. Teams left him wide open a lot last year and a lot of his receptions were gimme catches and garbage time yardage.
I think Adams sees some serious playing time later in the season.
Tye had a nice season especially in the last 5 or 6
games. If what he did was average, I will take any day of the week. He was by far the biggest overperformer on the Offense.
And whether you believe he did it only because he was left open or not is just silly. Then let somebody cover him next year and leave another option for Eli exposed. Fine with me (and McAdoo).
If TEs are open versus the Giants, our LBs and Safeties suck. But if our TEs are open they were "gimme catches".
The Giants settled with him (instead of putting him on IR) so he could sign with another team, which he did, signing with the Jets. But the injury was still an issue and he was cut by the Jets before the season began.
The Giants thought enough of him to bring him back in November when they needed another TE. I'm not saying he's the second-coming or anything, but he's got good size, speed (for S&G's, compare his pro day numbers to Hunter Hearst Henry's), and he showed soft hands in mini-camp. I'm glad he's getting another chance with the Giants.
what about bringing in that 400lb TE from baylor for a try out as i didnt see him get drafted that i recall at least heck play him at RT over newhouse couldnt do much worse
donnell has alot of problems with his back i guess thats why they went for adams has a chance to be the starter they will need tye especially if donnells back is still an issue early on in the season at least
Until we see an unfettered McAdoo offense, and yes
TC was a fetterer. He always had the fundamental belief that establishing the run was more important than scoring more points than the other team.
Game sees to be evolving where the TE is really a WR with a size matchup advantage on Ss and and an athleticism advantage over LBs. Blocking is either secondary or of no import whatsoever.
He is by no means my favorite, but it is Donnell who has movement athleticism (although not speed). He seems to be the worst blocker however and does not seem to want to do it.
If we become a passing team, Donnell starts. If we have a core running game, Donnell could be first out on the street.
Agreed.
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LaCrosse really? I don't know much about him but beating out Donnell would be kind of an upset...no?
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Tye, Adams, LaCrosse is my guess for the 3 TEs. Donnell has failed to really progress. He still makes the same silly plays jumping around and his blocking is lacking. He's had time to develop those skills and hasn't. I think he's run his course here and drafting Adams is the final nail.
LaCrosse really? I don't know much about him but beating out Donnell would be kind of an upset...no?
Yes because he was waive by the Giants and Jets. Both teams looking for TE depth.
If Adams gets his head screwed on right, it could be him and Tye as the #2, in either case.
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Tye, Adams, LaCrosse is my guess for the 3 TEs. Donnell has failed to really progress. He still makes the same silly plays jumping around and his blocking is lacking. He's had time to develop those skills and hasn't. I think he's run his course here and drafting Adams is the final nail.
LaCrosse really? I don't know much about him but beating out Donnell would be kind of an upset...no?
Like I said, what has Donnell shown in term of improvement? He still can't block, he still does that stupid jump in the air on contact nonsense. Sure he's athletic and can catch but there is more to playing TE than that. He doesn't play ST either. I see LaCrosse as an all around player. Not as good as a pass catcher but better at blocking and can play ST.
I like Cunningham....just doesn't have the experience....
LaCrosse is practice squad....
It will be interesting to see what Adams does in camp....
I'll say Tye, given he has edge in experience and his surprise performance as a rookie. But if Adams picks up the pro game as quickly as Tye did he will be starting at some point this season. It's going to be a very fun camp to watch as this team transitions to a new coach and The "reloading" process takes shape. The entire draft class will be under the microscope with 3 rookies competing'for starting jobs (Shepard, Thompson, and Perkins) and 3 more looking for significant playing time (Apple, Adams, Goodson).
I like Cunningham....just doesn't have the experience....
Lacosse over Donnell? LaCosse is practice squad....
It will be interesting to see what Adams does in camp....
Hard to believe, these TE's still can't block....from what I see, they react to blocking, instead of being aggressive, and going after their guy. Who the hell is their coach? Oh,.....
The new guys? We'll see, but I have no reason to think any of them will be more successful than they've recently been.
Hopefully, Adams will come in and make it a difficult decision. But we can't expect that much from him so soon.
I like Tye between the 20s, as previously stated, and LD in the Green Zone.
Donnell just doesn't look like a natural football player and should be relegated to a backup role.
Gilbride was given nothing but undrafted free agents (unless you include the JPP of TEs), and as a group they have done surprisingly well since he became TE coach in 2014.
Until he was hurt, LaCosse looked very good, and nobody was even giving a chance to Tye when last training camp started.
Adding Adams in the 6th gives Gilbride another piece to work with.
McAdoo certainly wanted Gilbride on his first staff and I wouldn't rule out any of the TEs Gilbride has been given for this season. 5 solid players will battle for 3 roster spots.
You can't give every unit on your team Day 1 and Day 2 draft picks, and Gilbride Jr has had the least to work with, but done more than any fan could have expected. Come the season opener, the best 3 will surface.
I think Adams sees some serious playing time later in the season.
And whether you believe he did it only because he was left open or not is just silly. Then let somebody cover him next year and leave another option for Eli exposed. Fine with me (and McAdoo).
If TEs are open versus the Giants, our LBs and Safeties suck. But if our TEs are open they were "gimme catches".
oh BBI...
The Giants thought enough of him to bring him back in November when they needed another TE. I'm not saying he's the second-coming or anything, but he's got good size, speed (for S&G's, compare his pro day numbers to Hunter Hearst Henry's), and he showed soft hands in mini-camp. I'm glad he's getting another chance with the Giants.
donnell has alot of problems with his back i guess thats why they went for adams has a chance to be the starter they will need tye especially if donnells back is still an issue early on in the season at least
Game sees to be evolving where the TE is really a WR with a size matchup advantage on Ss and and an athleticism advantage over LBs. Blocking is either secondary or of no import whatsoever.
He is by no means my favorite, but it is Donnell who has movement athleticism (although not speed). He seems to be the worst blocker however and does not seem to want to do it.
If we become a passing team, Donnell starts. If we have a core running game, Donnell could be first out on the street.
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