When a player is unfairly condemned after the draft, it might impact a player's image. When it happens during the draft, it can impact their wallet. While Tunsil's agent was on the phone furiously calling teams to tell them the bong picture "is not who he is," Gruden was telling teams and the world not to draft him.
At minimum, Gruden owes Tunsil an apology. At maximum, compensation.
After the 6th pick was made, Gruden got warmed up by blaming Tunsil and Twitter instead of the hacker.
"This whole thing makes me sick. This whole social media scene makes me sick." Gruden said on the broadcast. "If you're a young kid out there, put away your Twitter accounts, all right, if you want to be a pro football player. Somebody's gonna hack your account." Lonk - ( New Window )
Josh Gordon basically hasn't played in 2 seasons not because he's a bad guy but because he literally has zero ability to show good judgement. What's worse - he's never the one to blame when something happens to him. This notion that Tunsil is somehow clean of all blame for the multitude of issues he's facing - is just classic excuse making BS.
Nothing sailed over my head as usual your posts are cryptic and meant to be mean spirited. Judgement...the kid is 21. This video was taken sometime when the kid was 19,20 or 21. How about you using judgement and realizing it is a college kid taking a bong hit. Unbelievable.
He is playing football. Not running for president or flying an airplane. He didn't hit a woman, steal anything or use homophobic slurs. Love Apple, love our draft. Legalize the stuff and make this a non issue for the next kid.
Nothing sailed over my head as usual your posts are cryptic and meant to be mean spirited. Judgement...the kid is 21. This video was taken sometime when the kid was 19,20 or 21. How about you using judgement and realizing it is a college kid taking a bong hit. Unbelievable.
He is playing football. Not running for president or flying an airplane. He didn't hit a woman, steal anything or use homophobic slurs. Love Apple, love our draft. Legalize the stuff and make this a non issue for the next kid.
You realize Tunsil isn't like...a normal college kid right? He's a professional, with a business investing millions of dollars into his decision making. Do you seriously not understand the difference?
It's his judgement. This is a kid who 1) allowed himself to be videotaped smoking from a bong, 2) took $ from an Ole Miss coach, 3) is being sued by his step-father for assault, & 4) was with Nkemdiche when he fell out of a hotel window.
This isn't one incident. This is a pattern of questionable decision making.
Nothing sailed over my head as usual your posts are cryptic and meant to be mean spirited. Judgement...the kid is 21. This video was taken sometime when the kid was 19,20 or 21. How about you using judgement and realizing it is a college kid taking a bong hit. Unbelievable.
He is playing football. Not running for president or flying an airplane. He didn't hit a woman, steal anything or use homophobic slurs. Love Apple, love our draft. Legalize the stuff and make this a non issue for the next kid.
What does all that matter? It goes against the rules of the NFL regardless of you disagreeing with them or not. If he's a suspension waiting to happen what GM wouldn't take that into consideration? Add in the lawsuit, taking money, and whatever else, you have several scenarios that all represent poor judgement.
this picture is Tunsil right? Teams reported to people like Mayock and Gruden seeing this picture changed their evaluation of Tunsil.
Blame Tunsil. If you think there's is nothing wrong with this picture (it was allegedly from a couple years ago blame the NFL teams) but unless the NFL changes their marijuana policy this picture is alarming. and I wouldn't be that shocked if the NFL places him in step 1 drug program from day 1.
I've been reading BBI since 2005 and this honestly might be the most moronic post I've ever read. So the hacker isn't at fault? I really can't comprehend how illogical your train of thought is. So you have NEVER emailed something to someone that you might be embarrassed for the whole world to find out? Someone ILLEGALLY signed onto this guy's social media account and posted this stuff. If you want to say that Tunsil should have never done that or allowed it to be photographed, I agree. But wow.
this picture is Tunsil right? Teams reported to people like Mayock and Gruden seeing this picture changed their evaluation of Tunsil.
Blame Tunsil. If you think there's is nothing wrong with this picture (it was allegedly from a couple years ago blame the NFL teams) but unless the NFL changes their marijuana policy this picture is alarming. and I wouldn't be that shocked if the NFL places him in step 1 drug program from day 1.
I've been reading BBI since 2005 and this honestly might be the most moronic post I've ever read. So the hacker isn't at fault? I really can't comprehend how illogical your train of thought is. So you have NEVER emailed something to someone that you might be embarrassed for the whole world to find out? Someone ILLEGALLY signed onto this guy's social media account and posted this stuff. If you want to say that Tunsil should have never done that or allowed it to be photographed, I agree. But wow.
If I allow myself to be photographed or videotaped doing something illegal, and that winds up, no matter how, becoming public, then no I will not blame someone else for my actions becoming public.
Let me guess, you're in your 20's and need safe spaces and got participation trophies your whole life?
if so, I can see why you wouldn't understand accountability and need to continually find outlets for blame instead of just accepting responsibility like a grown up.
this picture is Tunsil right? Teams reported to people like Mayock and Gruden seeing this picture changed their evaluation of Tunsil.
Blame Tunsil. If you think there's is nothing wrong with this picture (it was allegedly from a couple years ago blame the NFL teams) but unless the NFL changes their marijuana policy this picture is alarming. and I wouldn't be that shocked if the NFL places him in step 1 drug program from day 1.
I've been reading BBI since 2005 and this honestly might be the most moronic post I've ever read. So the hacker isn't at fault? I really can't comprehend how illogical your train of thought is. So you have NEVER emailed something to someone that you might be embarrassed for the whole world to find out? Someone ILLEGALLY signed onto this guy's social media account and posted this stuff. If you want to say that Tunsil should have never done that or allowed it to be photographed, I agree. But wow.
If I allow myself to be photographed or videotaped doing something illegal, and that winds up, no matter how, becoming public, then no I will not blame someone else for my actions becoming public.
Let me guess, you're in your 20's and need safe spaces and got participation trophies your whole life?
if so, I can see why you wouldn't understand accountability and need to continually find outlets for blame instead of just accepting responsibility like a grown up.
It's probably even worse than this - this idiot probably had that video on his phone, and someone managed to scoop it up when he wasn't looking and post it online.
until all the facts are known? That's just a good life lesson in general.
Maybe instead of lecturing others you can refrain from commenting. That might be a good life lesson for you.
This is a message board not a courtroom and the picture speaks for itself and the commentary was mostly around the picture even existing, which is mostly why he dropped.
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Ravens took Tunsil OFF their board after that video, member of organization tells me. OFF.
9:03 PM - 28 Apr 2016
That Tunsil illegally took money from a booster and got caught and suspended. He's also involved in a lawsuit where he physically fought his stepfather. Now this idiotic weed thing? It's icing on the cake, not the reason he was passed over. It shows a pattern of piss poor decision making, I wouldn't hire him, would you?
I won't defend anything the kid has done, or has been alleged to have done.
I'll say this, though. Dealing with a lot of high school boys in our AAU basketball program, several of whom come from conditions that sometimes make me stare in disbelief at how the kids even manage a smile on their faces at times, I can understand how it would be extremely, extremely difficult to turn down money from someone who wanted to offer it. Some of these kids have nothing, and are thin because they literally don't eat much food. Tunsil made that mistake, but I place that one on a sliding scale, personally.
I'm curious about why he physically fought the step-father. Might make me feel one way or another to know the reasons such a thing happened. Another one of our boys moved into the mom's house with the mom last fall. The guy became abusive. The kid (a sophomore) stepped in between. No blows, but pushing and shoving ... yadda yadda yadda, the boyfriend booted them both and they stayed in the attic of a teammate's family from October to last month.
I said this isn't about smoking pot - it is about poor judgment and decisions.
As usual, you don't make any sense.
how was your judgement at 19? You must hate bush he was an alcoholic and Coke head. You must hate Hillary. She was a pothead and campaigned for a segregationist. The issue with the money he took was 300 bucks to pay his mothers electric and apparently he beat his step father up to protect his mother.
Further, before Eli got drafted a picture showed him wasted at age 19. I mean obliterated. That's illegal. Guess you hate his judgement too.
I said this isn't about smoking pot - it is about poor judgment and decisions.
As usual, you don't make any sense.
how was your judgement at 19? You must hate bush he was an alcoholic and Coke head. You must hate Hillary. She was a pothead and campaigned for a segregationist. The issue with the money he took was 300 bucks to pay his mothers electric and apparently he beat his step father up to protect his mother.
Further, before Eli got drafted a picture showed him wasted at age 19. I mean obliterated. That's illegal. Guess you hate his judgement too.
You are a joke.
MY friend we are two pea's in a pod. I could not agree with your post more. Very well said.
those are fantastically bad comparisons. Bravo sir.
yea they are bad. One was a president. The other a senator and likely president. And as for Eli it's worse cause alcohol is more addictive and more harmful. These factors mitigate Tunsil smoking a bong in comparison. There is no debate. If you object to Tunsil you must of objected to Eli, especially considering at that time the rookie pay scales were higher.
1) This is not simply about a picture with a bong.
2) That said, the bong is also attached to a gas mask to enhance the high, which makes it a little worse.
3) His own teammate said he uses synthetic marijuana, which is a much larger concern.
4) He has other character issues and on field issues.
5) As I understand it, he didn't take money to pay his mother's bills. He wrote to some school official inquiring as to why his mother's bills haven't been paid. This is damning as it is written proof of accepting money he shouldn't have. Of course, this is more likely to negatively impact the school than Tunsil at this point.
I said this isn't about smoking pot - it is about poor judgment and decisions.
As usual, you don't make any sense.
how was your judgement at 19? You must hate bush he was an alcoholic and Coke head. You must hate Hillary. She was a pothead and campaigned for a segregationist. The issue with the money he took was 300 bucks to pay his mothers electric and apparently he beat his step father up to protect his mother.
Further, before Eli got drafted a picture showed him wasted at age 19. I mean obliterated. That's illegal. Guess you hate his judgement too.
You are a joke.
MY friend we are two pea's in a pod. I could not agree with your post more. Very well said.
bluetothegrave must be one of dust-bowl's other handles - same writing style and same poor grammar...
It was an asinine response that also had no credibility on any level. His own response wasn't much better. And it doesn't really matter if his account was hacked. That is him in the video.
How could he owe Tunsil anything? He was doing what he was paid to do. It is no different than offering his opinion on any other draft prospect. Now, if he had made up drug accusations as the basis for his opinion, then you could be on to something. But, he commented in response, in part, to the video. He had other reasons for his opinion.
1. Isn't truth an absolute defense to any slander allegation? He DID smoke pot and he DID take money.
2. Deej can answer this, but is Tunsil a public figure? That would make it even harder for him to win.
3. Negative comments causing his draft stock to fall? If that's the sole basis, then every draft columnist would be liable anytime they said a player was slow, even though he ran a 5.9 40.
I saw someone called him a train wreck? Question his motivation after he gets paid? Take the side of his step dad who is suing him? He missed a lot of games? He took money from Ole Miss?
Where was all this before the bong video?
this guy got fucked over and all you suckers fueled the bullshit fire.
He is the most talented player in the draft and the most talented LT to come along in a long time. Teams like the Ravens, the Titans are the Giants make the same mistake you do. The Dolphins are glad you are afraid.
I saw someone called him a train wreck? Question his motivation after he gets paid? Take the side of his step dad who is suing him? He missed a lot of games? He took money from Ole Miss?
Where was all this before the bong video?
this guy got fucked over and all you suckers fueled the bullshit fire.
He is the most talented player in the draft and the most talented LT to come along in a long time. Teams like the Ravens, the Titans are the Giants make the same mistake you do. The Dolphins are glad you are afraid.
I screwed up, got called on it and so it is somebody else's fault. I'm stupid enough to video myself smoking pot through a gas mask and it is John Gruden's fault.
What GM do you think was watching John Gruden during the draft?
1) This is not simply about a picture with a bong.
2) That said, the bong is also attached to a gas mask to enhance the high, which makes it a little worse.
3) His own teammate said he uses synthetic marijuana, which is a much larger concern.
4) He has other character issues and on field issues.
5) As I understand it, he didn't take money to pay his mother's bills. He wrote to some school official inquiring as to why his mother's bills haven't been paid. This is damning as it is written proof of accepting money he shouldn't have. Of course, this is more likely to negatively impact the school than Tunsil at this point.
none of these issues prevented teams from taking him before the pot incident and your chacertization of them is false. The real tradegy here is a society that forces people to take horrifying pain meds instead of pot, an actual healthy alternative and according to some research a cancer preventer. Beer is worse. Cigs are worse. Period.
Pot is still illegal in many states and is banned in the NFL. What's tragic isn't that he slid down board, it's that he continued to make dumb mistakes knowing full well it might cost him money.
It's not the pot. It's the lack of maturity. And seeing as how these teams are investing millions into these players, I can see them mitigating risk and passing on him.
That fact that you can't see this doesn't surprise me.
Pot is still illegal in many states and is banned in the NFL. What's tragic isn't that he slid down board, it's that he continued to make dumb mistakes knowing full well it might cost him money.
It's not the pot. It's the lack of maturity. And seeing as how these teams are investing millions into these players, I can see them mitigating risk and passing on him.
That fact that you can't see this doesn't surprise me.
it is illegal to drink before the age of 21. Eli had a picture where he was underage wasted. Did he make mistakes? Sure. They are all minor and the Giants would have been a sb contender this year with him instead of Apple.
Pot is still illegal in many states and is banned in the NFL. What's tragic isn't that he slid down board, it's that he continued to make dumb mistakes knowing full well it might cost him money.
It's not the pot. It's the lack of maturity. And seeing as how these teams are investing millions into these players, I can see them mitigating risk and passing on him.
That fact that you can't see this doesn't surprise me.
last I saw 80 percent of Americans have smoked pot including presidents. If you aren't smart enough to see that pot doesn't indicate anything about a person negative then you are both a square, a loser and likely socially inept.
I saw someone called him a train wreck? Question his motivation after he gets paid? Take the side of his step dad who is suing him? He missed a lot of games? He took money from Ole Miss?
Where was all this before the bong video?
this guy got fucked over and all you suckers fueled the bullshit fire.
He is the most talented player in the draft and the most talented LT to come along in a long time. Teams like the Ravens, the Titans are the Giants make the same mistake you do. The Dolphins are glad you are afraid.
Haha, riiiight, everyone else's fault. Cry me a river, you and Tunsil.
Is that you play by the rules your company (NFL) sets It's not his fault your fault Grudens fault social medias fault. If you want to be hired by a certain company or organization you play by their rules or suffer the consequences
Tunsil suffered the consequences. Lost millions and hopefully learned a life lesson. Now move on
be I doubt the general managers are watching jon gruden during the draft so I am pretty sure anything said on tv had little impact on what made teams pass on him.
this brain surgeon is about to enter the NFL draft with an opportunity to make millions and to be set for life. What does he do? He allows himself to be video taped smoking a bong. Despite that screw up, this guy STILL will make more $$ than 50% of the other NFL players in the league.
Pot is still illegal in many states and is banned in the NFL. What's tragic isn't that he slid down board, it's that he continued to make dumb mistakes knowing full well it might cost him money.
It's not the pot. It's the lack of maturity. And seeing as how these teams are investing millions into these players, I can see them mitigating risk and passing on him.
That fact that you can't see this doesn't surprise me.
last I saw 80 percent of Americans have smoked pot including presidents. If you aren't smart enough to see that pot doesn't indicate anything about a person negative then you are both a square, a loser and likely socially inept.
I actually support legalization of pot and would gladly partake if it didn't jeopardize my livelihood - particulally if there were millions of dollars at stake. Otherwise, I'd have to explain to my family why we can't pay the rent or eat.
If providing for my family makes me square or socially inept, then so be it.
Pot is still illegal in many states and is banned in the NFL. What's tragic isn't that he slid down board, it's that he continued to make dumb mistakes knowing full well it might cost him money.
It's not the pot. It's the lack of maturity. And seeing as how these teams are investing millions into these players, I can see them mitigating risk and passing on him.
That fact that you can't see this doesn't surprise me.
last I saw 80 percent of Americans have smoked pot including presidents. If you aren't smart enough to see that pot doesn't indicate anything about a person negative then you are both a square, a loser and likely socially inept.
I actually support legalization of pot and would gladly partake if it didn't jeopardize my livelihood - particulally if there were millions of dollars at stake. Otherwise, I'd have to explain to my family why we can't pay the rent or eat.
If providing for my family makes me square or socially inept, then so be it.
dude he was 19. This your analogy is bogus. When I am applying to jobs I don't smoke. I pass the test. Then I smoke again. This kid passed his test too. Btw what the heck are you doing where smoking a bowl would threaten your livelihood?
I don't care about the pot, but his poor judgement is the crux of everything and why he fell. Its not that hard to understand.
He is playing football. Not running for president or flying an airplane. He didn't hit a woman, steal anything or use homophobic slurs. Love Apple, love our draft. Legalize the stuff and make this a non issue for the next kid.
I thought the pick was funny, I don't care about the pot, but the stupid bothers me.
He is playing football. Not running for president or flying an airplane. He didn't hit a woman, steal anything or use homophobic slurs. Love Apple, love our draft. Legalize the stuff and make this a non issue for the next kid.
You realize Tunsil isn't like...a normal college kid right? He's a professional, with a business investing millions of dollars into his decision making. Do you seriously not understand the difference?
This isn't one incident. This is a pattern of questionable decision making.
He is playing football. Not running for president or flying an airplane. He didn't hit a woman, steal anything or use homophobic slurs. Love Apple, love our draft. Legalize the stuff and make this a non issue for the next kid.
What does all that matter? It goes against the rules of the NFL regardless of you disagreeing with them or not. If he's a suspension waiting to happen what GM wouldn't take that into consideration? Add in the lawsuit, taking money, and whatever else, you have several scenarios that all represent poor judgement.
It appears some people lack the judgment to understand that the larger issue is about his poor judgment.
this picture is Tunsil right? Teams reported to people like Mayock and Gruden seeing this picture changed their evaluation of Tunsil.
Blame Tunsil. If you think there's is nothing wrong with this picture (it was allegedly from a couple years ago blame the NFL teams) but unless the NFL changes their marijuana policy this picture is alarming. and I wouldn't be that shocked if the NFL places him in step 1 drug program from day 1.
I've been reading BBI since 2005 and this honestly might be the most moronic post I've ever read. So the hacker isn't at fault? I really can't comprehend how illogical your train of thought is. So you have NEVER emailed something to someone that you might be embarrassed for the whole world to find out? Someone ILLEGALLY signed onto this guy's social media account and posted this stuff. If you want to say that Tunsil should have never done that or allowed it to be photographed, I agree. But wow.
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holy shit take some f-ing accountability.
this picture is Tunsil right? Teams reported to people like Mayock and Gruden seeing this picture changed their evaluation of Tunsil.
Blame Tunsil. If you think there's is nothing wrong with this picture (it was allegedly from a couple years ago blame the NFL teams) but unless the NFL changes their marijuana policy this picture is alarming. and I wouldn't be that shocked if the NFL places him in step 1 drug program from day 1.
I've been reading BBI since 2005 and this honestly might be the most moronic post I've ever read. So the hacker isn't at fault? I really can't comprehend how illogical your train of thought is. So you have NEVER emailed something to someone that you might be embarrassed for the whole world to find out? Someone ILLEGALLY signed onto this guy's social media account and posted this stuff. If you want to say that Tunsil should have never done that or allowed it to be photographed, I agree. But wow.
If I allow myself to be photographed or videotaped doing something illegal, and that winds up, no matter how, becoming public, then no I will not blame someone else for my actions becoming public.
Let me guess, you're in your 20's and need safe spaces and got participation trophies your whole life?
if so, I can see why you wouldn't understand accountability and need to continually find outlets for blame instead of just accepting responsibility like a grown up.
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holy shit take some f-ing accountability.
this picture is Tunsil right? Teams reported to people like Mayock and Gruden seeing this picture changed their evaluation of Tunsil.
Blame Tunsil. If you think there's is nothing wrong with this picture (it was allegedly from a couple years ago blame the NFL teams) but unless the NFL changes their marijuana policy this picture is alarming. and I wouldn't be that shocked if the NFL places him in step 1 drug program from day 1.
I've been reading BBI since 2005 and this honestly might be the most moronic post I've ever read. So the hacker isn't at fault? I really can't comprehend how illogical your train of thought is. So you have NEVER emailed something to someone that you might be embarrassed for the whole world to find out? Someone ILLEGALLY signed onto this guy's social media account and posted this stuff. If you want to say that Tunsil should have never done that or allowed it to be photographed, I agree. But wow.
If I allow myself to be photographed or videotaped doing something illegal, and that winds up, no matter how, becoming public, then no I will not blame someone else for my actions becoming public.
Let me guess, you're in your 20's and need safe spaces and got participation trophies your whole life?
if so, I can see why you wouldn't understand accountability and need to continually find outlets for blame instead of just accepting responsibility like a grown up.
It's probably even worse than this - this idiot probably had that video on his phone, and someone managed to scoop it up when he wasn't looking and post it online.
Yeah, it was all the "hackers" fault.
Maybe instead of lecturing others you can refrain from commenting. That might be a good life lesson for you.
This is a message board not a courtroom and the picture speaks for itself and the commentary was mostly around the picture even existing, which is mostly why he dropped.
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Ravens took Tunsil OFF their board after that video, member of organization tells me. OFF.
9:03 PM - 28 Apr 2016
what other facts are you waiting for?
I won't defend anything the kid has done, or has been alleged to have done.
I'll say this, though. Dealing with a lot of high school boys in our AAU basketball program, several of whom come from conditions that sometimes make me stare in disbelief at how the kids even manage a smile on their faces at times, I can understand how it would be extremely, extremely difficult to turn down money from someone who wanted to offer it. Some of these kids have nothing, and are thin because they literally don't eat much food. Tunsil made that mistake, but I place that one on a sliding scale, personally.
I'm curious about why he physically fought the step-father. Might make me feel one way or another to know the reasons such a thing happened. Another one of our boys moved into the mom's house with the mom last fall. The guy became abusive. The kid (a sophomore) stepped in between. No blows, but pushing and shoving ... yadda yadda yadda, the boyfriend booted them both and they stayed in the attic of a teammate's family from October to last month.
The gas mask? I got nuthin'. Dumb ass.
moved into the mom's boyfriend's house with the mom ...
I thought the pick was funny, I don't care about the pot, but the stupid bothers me.
As usual, you don't make any sense.
Further, before Eli got drafted a picture showed him wasted at age 19. I mean obliterated. That's illegal. Guess you hate his judgement too.
You are a joke.
You intentionally don't get it. I'll be the joke, because you are just a fucking punchline.
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I said this isn't about smoking pot - it is about poor judgment and decisions.
As usual, you don't make any sense.
how was your judgement at 19? You must hate bush he was an alcoholic and Coke head. You must hate Hillary. She was a pothead and campaigned for a segregationist. The issue with the money he took was 300 bucks to pay his mothers electric and apparently he beat his step father up to protect his mother.
Further, before Eli got drafted a picture showed him wasted at age 19. I mean obliterated. That's illegal. Guess you hate his judgement too.
You are a joke.
MY friend we are two pea's in a pod. I could not agree with your post more. Very well said.
2) That said, the bong is also attached to a gas mask to enhance the high, which makes it a little worse.
3) His own teammate said he uses synthetic marijuana, which is a much larger concern.
4) He has other character issues and on field issues.
5) As I understand it, he didn't take money to pay his mother's bills. He wrote to some school official inquiring as to why his mother's bills haven't been paid. This is damning as it is written proof of accepting money he shouldn't have. Of course, this is more likely to negatively impact the school than Tunsil at this point.
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I said this isn't about smoking pot - it is about poor judgment and decisions.
As usual, you don't make any sense.
how was your judgement at 19? You must hate bush he was an alcoholic and Coke head. You must hate Hillary. She was a pothead and campaigned for a segregationist. The issue with the money he took was 300 bucks to pay his mothers electric and apparently he beat his step father up to protect his mother.
Further, before Eli got drafted a picture showed him wasted at age 19. I mean obliterated. That's illegal. Guess you hate his judgement too.
You are a joke.
MY friend we are two pea's in a pod. I could not agree with your post more. Very well said.
bluetothegrave must be one of dust-bowl's other handles - same writing style and same poor grammar...
2. Deej can answer this, but is Tunsil a public figure? That would make it even harder for him to win.
3. Negative comments causing his draft stock to fall? If that's the sole basis, then every draft columnist would be liable anytime they said a player was slow, even though he ran a 5.9 40.
Utterly ridiculous.
Where was all this before the bong video?
this guy got fucked over and all you suckers fueled the bullshit fire.
He is the most talented player in the draft and the most talented LT to come along in a long time. Teams like the Ravens, the Titans are the Giants make the same mistake you do. The Dolphins are glad you are afraid.
Where was all this before the bong video?
this guy got fucked over and all you suckers fueled the bullshit fire.
He is the most talented player in the draft and the most talented LT to come along in a long time. Teams like the Ravens, the Titans are the Giants make the same mistake you do. The Dolphins are glad you are afraid.
What GM do you think was watching John Gruden during the draft?
2) That said, the bong is also attached to a gas mask to enhance the high, which makes it a little worse.
3) His own teammate said he uses synthetic marijuana, which is a much larger concern.
4) He has other character issues and on field issues.
5) As I understand it, he didn't take money to pay his mother's bills. He wrote to some school official inquiring as to why his mother's bills haven't been paid. This is damning as it is written proof of accepting money he shouldn't have. Of course, this is more likely to negatively impact the school than Tunsil at this point.
It's not the pot. It's the lack of maturity. And seeing as how these teams are investing millions into these players, I can see them mitigating risk and passing on him.
That fact that you can't see this doesn't surprise me.
It's not the pot. It's the lack of maturity. And seeing as how these teams are investing millions into these players, I can see them mitigating risk and passing on him.
That fact that you can't see this doesn't surprise me.
Not every business owner is going to hire someone and pay them millions if they don't think they are reliable.
One team didn't care but I can't blame 12 others for passing.
If it was a continued history of him doing other stupid shit not weed but against nfl rules the same thing would have happened.
It's not the pot. It's the lack of maturity. And seeing as how these teams are investing millions into these players, I can see them mitigating risk and passing on him.
That fact that you can't see this doesn't surprise me.
There is nothing damaging to Tunsil in that quote. Sometimes I wonder if people start threads after they read just the headline of an article.
Where was all this before the bong video?
this guy got fucked over and all you suckers fueled the bullshit fire.
He is the most talented player in the draft and the most talented LT to come along in a long time. Teams like the Ravens, the Titans are the Giants make the same mistake you do. The Dolphins are glad you are afraid.
Haha, riiiight, everyone else's fault. Cry me a river, you and Tunsil.
(see what i did there...)
Tunsil suffered the consequences. Lost millions and hopefully learned a life lesson. Now move on
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Pot is still illegal in many states and is banned in the NFL. What's tragic isn't that he slid down board, it's that he continued to make dumb mistakes knowing full well it might cost him money.
It's not the pot. It's the lack of maturity. And seeing as how these teams are investing millions into these players, I can see them mitigating risk and passing on him.
That fact that you can't see this doesn't surprise me.
last I saw 80 percent of Americans have smoked pot including presidents. If you aren't smart enough to see that pot doesn't indicate anything about a person negative then you are both a square, a loser and likely socially inept.
I actually support legalization of pot and would gladly partake if it didn't jeopardize my livelihood - particulally if there were millions of dollars at stake. Otherwise, I'd have to explain to my family why we can't pay the rent or eat.
If providing for my family makes me square or socially inept, then so be it.
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In comment 12941922 Modus Operandi said:
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Pot is still illegal in many states and is banned in the NFL. What's tragic isn't that he slid down board, it's that he continued to make dumb mistakes knowing full well it might cost him money.
It's not the pot. It's the lack of maturity. And seeing as how these teams are investing millions into these players, I can see them mitigating risk and passing on him.
That fact that you can't see this doesn't surprise me.
last I saw 80 percent of Americans have smoked pot including presidents. If you aren't smart enough to see that pot doesn't indicate anything about a person negative then you are both a square, a loser and likely socially inept.
I actually support legalization of pot and would gladly partake if it didn't jeopardize my livelihood - particulally if there were millions of dollars at stake. Otherwise, I'd have to explain to my family why we can't pay the rent or eat.
If providing for my family makes me square or socially inept, then so be it.