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UConn4523 : 2:28 pm
lets just make this cut and dry and talk about book topics here. I'm interested in discussing stuff from the other thread but too many potential spoilers.

Have at it.
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Do we need...  
Ross : 2:32 pm : link
A separate thread for those who read on Kindle as opposed to actual books? I hear the books may have included pictures and maps that us Kindle readers never saw. (sarcasm off)
I just started a thread about  
eli4life : 2:33 pm : link
Someone said the Dragon smelled targarion blood in tyrion. Was that speculation or is that mentioned?
They nailed Euron last night  
Tyrion : 2:33 pm : link
I loved that entire scene.

Besides, Balon shot first!
Thoros actor is signed for this season  
Be interested to see what for. If he just shows up at the wall I'd be a bit disappointed. Maybe the brotherhood delivers the comeuppance for the Freys now that the Boltons situation is volatile?
RE: They nailed Euron last night  
UConn4523 : 2:34 pm : link
In comment 12941338 Tyrion said:
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I loved that entire scene.

Besides, Balon shot first!


Haha, Balon definitely made a move.
RE: I just started a thread about  
In comment 12941335 eli4life said:
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Someone said the Dragon smelled targarion blood in tyrion. Was that speculation or is that mentioned?


Long time speculation.
that's unrealistic  
Bill L : 2:37 pm : link
the wine-smell would be way too overpowering.
For Tyrion  
Tyrion : 2:37 pm : link
I think it also helped how he approached the dragons. In the books Quentyn comes with a whip and tries to basically be Dany whereas Tyrion comes in with just a torch that he puts down and approached them very slowly. I think his body language probably helped him.

I really hope he's not a secret Targ, but I'm down for him being a dragonrider.
Would it mean that Tywin isn't actually the father then  
UConn4523 : 2:37 pm : link
? Unless they are lying about Tyrion's mother dying during his birth and it was really a different woman who gave birth to him.
RE: Would it mean that Tywin isn't actually the father then  
Mike from SI : 2:39 pm : link
In comment 12941355 UConn4523 said:
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? Unless they are lying about Tyrion's mother dying during his birth and it was really a different woman who gave birth to him.


The theory is that the Mad King slept with his mom.
RE: Do we need...  
In comment 12941328 Ross said:
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A separate thread for those who read on Kindle as opposed to actual books? I hear the books may have included pictures and maps that us Kindle readers never saw. (sarcasm off)


Haha. It's too bad that's devolved into no talking about the book, even if it's not in the show at all.
Thoros of Myr is coming back  
Ross : 2:41 pm : link
I posted this link in the other thread. This quote below from the article is very interesting and leads me to believe that Lady Stoneheart might be back, if true.

"We also heard from another source that Kaye had been involved in some sort of hanging scene."
link Thoros - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Would it mean that Tywin isn't actually the father then  
Tyrion : 2:41 pm : link
In comment 12941360 Mike from SI said:
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? Unless they are lying about Tyrion's mother dying during his birth and it was really a different woman who gave birth to him.



The theory is that the Mad King slept with his mom.


More like raped, but yeah, that's the idea behind a Targ Tyrion.
RE: RE: Would it mean that Tywin isn't actually the father then  
UConn4523 : 2:41 pm : link
In comment 12941360 Mike from SI said:
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? Unless they are lying about Tyrion's mother dying during his birth and it was really a different woman who gave birth to him.



The theory is that the Mad King slept with his mom.


Got it. If that's the case I wonder if Tywin knew or not.
RE: Thoros of Myr is coming back  
Tyrion : 2:42 pm : link
In comment 12941366 Ross said:
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I posted this link in the other thread. This quote below from the article is very interesting and leads me to believe that Lady Stoneheart might be back, if true.

"We also heard from another source that Kaye had been involved in some sort of hanging scene." link Thoros - ( New Window )


I think the general LS plotline exists just without LS.
RE: Thoros of Myr is coming back  
UConn4523 : 2:42 pm : link
In comment 12941366 Ross said:
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I posted this link in the other thread. This quote below from the article is very interesting and leads me to believe that Lady Stoneheart might be back, if true.

"We also heard from another source that Kaye had been involved in some sort of hanging scene." link Thoros - ( New Window )


I know it was Catelyn that hung Brienne but maybe they just scrap her still and make it someone else.
RE: RE: Would it mean that Tywin isn't actually the father then  
In comment 12941360 Mike from SI said:
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? Unless they are lying about Tyrion's mother dying during his birth and it was really a different woman who gave birth to him.



The theory is that the Mad King slept with his mom.


I forget, did the book say he slept with her rather, um, forcefully?
RE: Would it mean that Tywin isn't actually the father then  
Bill L : 2:43 pm : link
In comment 12941355 UConn4523 said:
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? Unless they are lying about Tyrion's mother dying during his birth and it was really a different woman who gave birth to him.
Can't be the latter; they spent a lot of capital in making Cercei's hatred of him being due to Tyrion killing he mother.
Euron was good  
JoeMoney19 : 2:48 pm : link
have they confirmed if Victarion will be in the show at all?
RE: Euron was good  
Tyrion : 2:50 pm : link
In comment 12941421 JoeMoney19 said:
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have they confirmed if Victarion will be in the show at all?


Looking like he's not in. Based on Yara making out with some chick in the previews I wonder if she takes his role and sails to Dany.
Speaking of Catelyn....  
Any chance we see Lady Stoneheart this season? Or has her character been nixed on the show?
RE: RE: Thoros of Myr is coming back  
ron mexico : 3:04 pm : link
In comment 12941380 UConn4523 said:
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I posted this link in the other thread. This quote below from the article is very interesting and leads me to believe that Lady Stoneheart might be back, if true.

"We also heard from another source that Kaye had been involved in some sort of hanging scene." link Thoros - ( New Window )



I know it was Catelyn that hung Brienne but maybe they just scrap her still and make it someone else.


did that happen in the books?

man I have a bad recollection of the last two
RE: RE: RE: Thoros of Myr is coming back  
Bill L : 3:06 pm : link
In comment 12941462 ron mexico said:
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In comment 12941366 Ross said:


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I posted this link in the other thread. This quote below from the article is very interesting and leads me to believe that Lady Stoneheart might be back, if true.

"We also heard from another source that Kaye had been involved in some sort of hanging scene." link Thoros - ( New Window )



I know it was Catelyn that hung Brienne but maybe they just scrap her still and make it someone else.



did that happen in the books?

man I have a bad recollection of the last two
Me too. My recollection was that they hadn't hung her yet. They ended her last scene with the rope around her neck and some sort of other cliff-hanger that I forgot
hung = hanged  
Bill L : 3:07 pm : link
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yes  
well, it was a cliff hanger. Brienne was hung but uttered something at the end of the chapter before passing out which may or may not have saved her life.
They were definitely being hanged  
Tyrion : 3:15 pm : link
What I think finally made Brienne choose was seeing Pod struggling to breathe, so I'm guessing they were definitely mid-hanging.
RE: They were definitely being hanged  
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What I think finally made Brienne choose was seeing Pod struggling to breathe, so I'm guessing they were definitely mid-hanging.


I think it may have been her daughter's name she screamed. I don't think she "chose"
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TheBigBlueOne : 3:16 pm : link
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RE: RE: They were definitely being hanged  
Tyrion : 3:17 pm : link
In comment 12941503 leatherneck570 said:
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What I think finally made Brienne choose was seeing Pod struggling to breathe, so I'm guessing they were definitely mid-hanging.



I think it may have been her daughter's name she screamed. I don't think she "chose"


I thought (and I very well may be remembering incorrectly) it was confirmed the word she said was "Sword."
I thought it ended as she screamed out  
one "last" word...I could very well be wrong though.
yes  
UConn4523 : 3:23 pm : link
she was strung up but not officially hung/dead.
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What I think finally made Brienne choose was seeing Pod struggling to breathe, so I'm guessing they were definitely mid-hanging.



I think it may have been her daughter's name she screamed. I don't think she "chose"



I thought (and I very well may be remembering incorrectly) it was confirmed the word she said was "Sword."


It appears you are correct.
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anyway after he finished reading the chapters, he opened the floor to some discussion about the plot of asoiaf, and some amazing genius girl said: you know my friends and i were debating this pretty heavily in the lobby just today, brienne screams “one word” as she is being hung by lady stoneheart’s men in a feast for crows - what was the word?

george turned the question on the audience and asked if anyone had figured it out - we shouted all kinds of dumb stuff, “jaime”, “sapphires”, etc. but some other genius in the second row said “sword”!

george confirmed that the word brienne screamed was “sword”; lady stoneheart gave brienne the choice of either swearing her sword to her or being hung, saying “sword or noose”, and as brienne was being hung she screamed “sword”
That may have been a spoiler  
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I was shiting bricks  
Yobotic : 3:37 pm : link
When I saw Tyrion enter the dungeon. I fully thought he was going to replace Quentyn.
Brienne has to have yelled 'Sword' in AFFC...  
...because it's the only way the continuation of the story in Book V makes any sense. So when GRRM confirmed the word, it wasn't a real spoiler - just a clarification. ADWD was already out by then.
RE: ...  
ron mexico : 3:41 pm : link
In comment 12941561 leatherneck570 said:
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anyway after he finished reading the chapters, he opened the floor to some discussion about the plot of asoiaf, and some amazing genius girl said: you know my friends and i were debating this pretty heavily in the lobby just today, brienne screams “one word” as she is being hung by lady stoneheart’s men in a feast for crows - what was the word?

george turned the question on the audience and asked if anyone had figured it out - we shouted all kinds of dumb stuff, “jaime”, “sapphires”, etc. but some other genius in the second row said “sword”!

george confirmed that the word brienne screamed was “sword”; lady stoneheart gave brienne the choice of either swearing her sword to her or being hung, saying “sword or noose”, and as brienne was being hung she screamed “sword”




Why did it take a potential hanging to swear her sword to her? She swears he sword to anyone who will take it
RE: ...  
Tyrion : 3:41 pm : link
In comment 12941561 leatherneck570 said:
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anyway after he finished reading the chapters, he opened the floor to some discussion about the plot of asoiaf, and some amazing genius girl said: you know my friends and i were debating this pretty heavily in the lobby just today, brienne screams “one word” as she is being hung by lady stoneheart’s men in a feast for crows - what was the word?

george turned the question on the audience and asked if anyone had figured it out - we shouted all kinds of dumb stuff, “jaime”, “sapphires”, etc. but some other genius in the second row said “sword”!

george confirmed that the word brienne screamed was “sword”; lady stoneheart gave brienne the choice of either swearing her sword to her or being hung, saying “sword or noose”, and as brienne was being hung she screamed “sword”




Ahh yeah, I must have read that interview. Sometimes its hard keeping track of what I've read in the books, what I've read from sample chapters, and what info George decides to let us in on during an interview or whatnot.
RE: RE: RE: Would it mean that Tywin isn't actually the father then  
In comment 12941372 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 12941355 UConn4523 said:


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? Unless they are lying about Tyrion's mother dying during his birth and it was really a different woman who gave birth to him.



The theory is that the Mad King slept with his mom.



Got it. If that's the case I wonder if Tywin knew or not.


It is generally accepted that is why he hated Tyrion so much. His last words (or near last words) were "You're no son of mine."
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Bill L : 3:42 pm : link
In comment 12941561 leatherneck570 said:
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anyway after he finished reading the chapters, he opened the floor to some discussion about the plot of asoiaf, and some amazing genius girl said: you know my friends and i were debating this pretty heavily in the lobby just today, brienne screams “one word” as she is being hung by lady stoneheart’s men in a feast for crows - what was the word?

george turned the question on the audience and asked if anyone had figured it out - we shouted all kinds of dumb stuff, “jaime”, “sapphires”, etc. but some other genius in the second row said “sword”!

george confirmed that the word brienne screamed was “sword”; lady stoneheart gave brienne the choice of either swearing her sword to her or being hung, saying “sword or noose”, and as brienne was being hung she screamed “sword”


How many times can a person swear her sword unto death to another person?
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Tyrion : 4:02 pm : link
In comment 12941575 ron mexico said:
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anyway after he finished reading the chapters, he opened the floor to some discussion about the plot of asoiaf, and some amazing genius girl said: you know my friends and i were debating this pretty heavily in the lobby just today, brienne screams “one word” as she is being hung by lady stoneheart’s men in a feast for crows - what was the word?

george turned the question on the audience and asked if anyone had figured it out - we shouted all kinds of dumb stuff, “jaime”, “sapphires”, etc. but some other genius in the second row said “sword”!

george confirmed that the word brienne screamed was “sword”; lady stoneheart gave brienne the choice of either swearing her sword to her or being hung, saying “sword or noose”, and as brienne was being hung she screamed “sword”






Why did it take a potential hanging to swear her sword to her? She swears he sword to anyone who will take it


It was more of a "Go kill Jaime" order than a "Be my sworn sword" kind of order.
^^^^^^  
ron mexico : 4:10 pm : link
thanks, that makes sense.

I have no idea why I have near zero recollection of this stuff.
Yea, her showing up at the very end of Jaime's chapter...  
Jan in DC : 4:34 pm : link
in the most recent books seemed to indicate that she was there to kill him for Stoneheart. That chapter seems weird to me though.
RE: ^^^^^^  
Tyrion : 5:38 pm : link
In comment 12941638 ron mexico said:
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thanks, that makes sense.

I have no idea why I have near zero recollection of this stuff.


Five years is a long time.
I wonder if the gift that is brought to winterfell  
Scyber : 6:15 pm : link
In the next episode is Faux Arya? Perhaps ramsey marries her? Not sure how he gets out of the Sansa marriage though.
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PEEJ : 6:24 pm : link
In comment 12941893 Scyber said:
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In the next episode is Faux Arya? Perhaps ramsey marries her? Not sure how he gets out of the Sansa marriage though.

I'm guessing that it's Rickon
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widmerseyebrow : 10:43 pm : link
In comment 12941907 PEEJ said:
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In comment 12941893 Scyber said:


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In the next episode is Faux Arya? Perhaps ramsey marries her? Not sure how he gets out of the Sansa marriage though.


I'm guessing that it's Rickon


Ah, bingo. I bet that's it.
I think it is Rickon  
moespree : 10:58 pm : link
And I think this is about to be a significant show change. Rickon is with the Umbers in the show. If they give Rickon to Ramsay that's a rather large change from the books. I cannot imagine book Umbers would ever in a million years turn Ned Stark's youngest son over to Ramsay Snow.

Also, it makes for an unfortunate thought. We saw in every trailer they released someone flayed and burning on the Bolton cross. It was done as a display for the coming army. Could be Roose but what's the point? If for example, the coming army is led by Jon and Sansa why would they care? But they would if it was Rickon...
Is it the Umbers' place  
Bill L : 11:04 pm : link
In the books where Davos currently is? It's been a while but I thought he was searching for Rickon and was at a place which had some Frey's hanging around and there was some debate as to where a loyalties should lie. I really need to re-read, but it just seems so daunting.
Rickon is a good guess..  
Chris in Philly : 11:07 pm : link
but I think it would be a bad choice. For non-book readers, they're not even going to remember who Rickon is. He's been out of the shpw for, what, 3 years? Out of sight, out of mind. It won't have the same impact...
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