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NFT: Teams We Root For & The Media

SethFromAstoria : 5/2/2016 4:18 pm
I've talked about this a whole lot on BBI and people often agree but sometimes people question whether its nonsense to think that the media has any positive or negative affect on teams. My opinion is that often times the NYC media is extremely problematic and detrimental to the teams that play here because they thrive on the negative. They eat it up. They love controversy and tearing certain players down. You don't have to go far to see what I mean. Just look at the media's discussion re: OBJ or Dan Girardi on the Rangers, Carmelo Anthony etc...

Whether you think they are "right" or "wrong", the point is that the media in NYC DOES in fact affect lots of players and teams. Not all, but lots. And if you think they don't affect a free agent's desire to play in NYC, you're probably way off.

Just as an example, look at Dan Boyle (NYR Defenseman) points about Larry Brooks in the NY Post. Again agree or disgree, the fact is that some players don't take too well to the constant personal ripping on a daily basis and it definitely affects their performance.

That pisses me the hell off and I would assume some people agree. It's insane to think that the media in NYC actually makes it MORE difficult to win it all here. I think it's obvious that they do. Its kind os sickening.

Dan Boyle:

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“I don’t mind speaking about it at all. You’re right. I’ve been doing this for 18 years. I don’t know how many reporters I’ve dealt with. People from the media. I would bet every dollar that I own that I have zero problems with 99.9 percent of them. Some of them I call friends.

“And thank god for unlimited texting, because my phone has blown up in the last few days … and it’s been overwhelmingly positive in my favor.

“To rewind a little bit, of course Larry and Brett – or whatever – and there’s probably one more guy in there … I think over the course of the two years that I’ve been here I’ve never seen such negative covering of the game and negative destruction of individuals. So yes, I was upset about some of the stuff that was said about me, but more importantly, I felt like I needed to be a voice for my teammates.”

“And I can tell you that from teammates to ex-teammates to guys from other teams, that have come through here and have dealt with these individuals, it’s overwhelming how many ‘thank you’s’ I got for what I said and what they didn’t have the courage to say or couldn’t say.

“Now, I regret saying it in front of the rest of the media, because 99.9 percent of everyone there didn’t deserve to hear that coming from me, and probably made them feel uncomfortable, so I do apologize to them.

“But I do not, for one second, take back what I said to Larry and Brett. I do not take that back for one second because the things that they have done and said over the course of the last two years, and the way that they go about what they do, I’m going to disagree with you: Yes, some of the media [have] respect, but there’s plenty, and I’m not going to throw anyone under the bus, but there’s plenty that don’t.

“I heard ‘don’t take it personal.’ OK, well let me say the worst things about you for two years. You’re allowed to say it because you have freedom of speech and freedom of opinion, but if we turn the table for one second, and I voice my opinion for 30 seconds, well I can’t do that.

“So freedom of speech goes both ways.

“I appreciate what you said. I respect most of the media, with a few exceptions. I felt I’ve carried myself the right way for most of my career. This is possibly the last time I was going to deal with the media. I didn’t think I was going to blow up. But I haven’t spoken to Larry all year. For him to come around like this on the last day set me off a little bit. When I asked him to leave, and he refused, it crossed my wires a little bit. I wish I could have done it behind closed doors.

“So I apologize to everyone else that was there, but not to him because I meant every word.”

F the NYC Media - ( New Window )
One of these things is not like the other...  
Anakim : 5/2/2016 4:21 pm : link
"OBJ or Dan Girardi on the Rangers, Carmelo Anthony etc..."
RE: One of these things is not like the other...  
SethFromAstoria : 5/2/2016 4:22 pm : link
In comment 12941669 Anakim said:
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"OBJ or Dan Girardi on the Rangers, Carmelo Anthony etc..."


actually all three are versions of how the media does what they do. All different but all for the same reasons
Brooks definitely seems like a jerk.  
Mad Mike : 5/2/2016 4:25 pm : link
Dealing with negative press comes with the territory, but it certainly seems like he goes out of his way to be negative and insulting.
another hot take from Chuckles  
Greg from LI : 5/2/2016 4:25 pm : link
Aren't we all the wiser for it!
There is certainly some truth  
Rob in CT/NYC : 5/2/2016 4:28 pm : link
To your main point, but holy fuck is that Boyle rant a hot mess of idiocy....
RE: There is certainly some truth  
SethFromAstoria : 5/2/2016 4:29 pm : link
In comment 12941685 Rob in CT/NYC said:
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To your main point, but holy fuck is that Boyle rant a hot mess of idiocy....


i don't think it is at all. But ok.
Well, for starters  
Rob in CT/NYC : 5/2/2016 4:31 pm : link
I wouldn't take civics lesson (freedom of speech) from a Canadien (grin).
I find the sports media increasingly difficult to tolerate.  
bceagle05 : 5/2/2016 4:31 pm : link
The reporters who were destroying Odell after the Carolina game were the same ones stirring the Norman shit up during the week leading up to that game, and they'll do the same thing this year. Hell, they've already started since Norman signed in Washington. It's great for ratings, clicks, circulation, etc., but they have to pretend to be offended by it.

As for the local scene, I find the Giants beat writers to be pretty solid all around (Gary Myers is a columnist, not a beat writer). Otherwise it's very much a mixed bag. The Daily News is just awful though - Lupica, Isola, Myers, Mehta - a Murderers' Row of douchebags.
Add this point...  
SethFromAstoria : 5/2/2016 4:33 pm : link
All of this (if you are of the belief that the media does affect a lot of guys) just makes what our star QB did that much more amazing.

Think about Eli and the fact that he has had negative press and nonsense since DAY ONE of his career and all the way on through including after he already won 2 SUperb Bowl MVPs. He has done what he has done while being ripped for every bad pass, play, game, week etc... Amazing.
You can also argue that the New York media  
Mike from Ohio : 5/2/2016 5:43 pm : link
is reacting to what it's target market - New Yorkers - want. If tearing down local athletes did not sell, those stories would not be written. They get written more in NY due to a couple of factors. One is that there are more media outlets and there is then more competition and a need to stand out - usually by being the loudest or most controversial. But the other factor is that writing those types of articles works in New York.

Yes, the media writes them. But they write them for a public that wants those articles.
Fans and the media in the northeast and Canada  
MetsAreBack : 5/2/2016 6:00 pm : link
are more passionate, and more difficult, towards their struggling teams and players.

News at 11.

It's certainly affected the Patriots ability to win titles the past 10 years though. And the Blackhawks and Bulls. Red Sox and Yankees never seem to be able to get over that hurdle because of that damn media.

Maybe Brooks is a little over-the-top... but the media was dead on about this New York Rangers team, as it was dead spot on about Omar Minaya and the Mets teams that kept choking late season leads in 2007 and 2008 (and was a disaster from 2009-on).

I find excuses that the media made a player or team play worse to be really fucking weak. This years Rangers team wasnt nearly good enough to contend for a title. Not even close. 31 wins, 35 losses from mid November on. It wasnt Larry Brooks' fault the team was such a bust.
RE: Fans and the media in the northeast and Canada  
SethFromAstoria : 5/3/2016 5:32 pm : link
In comment 12941874 MetsAreBack said:
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are more passionate, and more difficult, towards their struggling teams and players.

News at 11.

It's certainly affected the Patriots ability to win titles the past 10 years though. And the Blackhawks and Bulls. Red Sox and Yankees never seem to be able to get over that hurdle because of that damn media.

Maybe Brooks is a little over-the-top... but the media was dead on about this New York Rangers team, as it was dead spot on about Omar Minaya and the Mets teams that kept choking late season leads in 2007 and 2008 (and was a disaster from 2009-on).

I find excuses that the media made a player or team play worse to be really fucking weak. This years Rangers team wasnt nearly good enough to contend for a title. Not even close. 31 wins, 35 losses from mid November on. It wasnt Larry Brooks' fault the team was such a bust.


Fair enough. Disagree with every single thing you said. From the missing the point about the NY media and using other markets for some reason (by the way, those Sox and Pats really were ripping off titles for decades prior to the last few years right?) Chicago? I mean cHicago has an elite team built by being the worst of the worst many years in a row. This years Rangers team could have won as much as any other. They ran into a buzzsaw at the peak of their winning. The Minaya thing....i mean you can see how wrong they are every 5th day when you watch Harvey pitch etc...



As for them doing what sells...I guess i cant relate. I'd rather my teams do well than read about how awful they are everyday. Just me perhaps.
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