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NFT: Lightning at Islanders, R2G3, 7pm Game Thread

pganut : 5/3/2016 12:19 pm
A split in TB is probably about the best we could have hoped for, but game 2 has left a bad taste in everyone's mouths. What better remedy than to go out and claim the next 2 on home ice. But there needs to be a better 60 minute effort (stop me if you've heard this before).

While it's comforting to know Greiss will again guard the nets, we know that Pulock is still not greenlit for a return, so there's the possibility of Zid again (yeesh...he needs a rest), but this may also signal a Pelech sighting. We'll see. And Cappy's favorite whipping boy, Ryan Strome, sinks deeper into the doghouse and will sit in favor of the juggernaut that is...Josh Bailey. Seems like a completely logical move designed to help the team. More brilliant lineup optimization by our illustrious head coach. Cappy points out that Bailey has played 500+ games, and at this time of year, "you need experience". Hint: if the "experience" sucks, maybe avoid the experience altogether.

Here's what's on the team's minds heading into tonight:
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Cappy (on game 2): "I just think it's a function of us not moving our feet. They're a good team. They rely on their speed, their skill and quickness and deception. If you're going to stand around and watch, it's going to be a long period for you. I think for us, we know that we were real soft and we stopped taking the body. We let them create a little bit too much time and space, and that's what happens when you do that."

“They’re a fast team, they’re one of the quicker teams in the league, but we’ve played against a lot of fast teams,” Capuano said. “It has to be a pack mentality. We have to work as a unit of five. When you don’t work as a unit of five, you look slow.”

Boychuk: “If you sit back (against them), you’re dead. If we attack more, we’ll have more hits and be more physical. But if you’re sitting back, they have more time to build speed and come into the zone. Pretty simple.

“They’re a little bit smaller and faster, so it’s tough to gauge their speed sometimes when we’re sitting back,” said Boychuk. “It’s hard to gap-up when you’re already sitting back. You’re already in the water. So, better gap. That’s what it comes down to. Better gap, [taking away] time and space.”

Tavares: "We want to obviously play a lot better than we did on Saturday. We know it wasn't our best. We have to make it a lot tougher on them."

Additionally, Jaro Halak is back to practicing and could be pronounced fit soon. Promising young defenseman Parker Wotherspoon, who was brought up to BPT after his WHL season with Tri City ended, signed an ELC with the Isles yesterday.

Let's Go Islanders!

Every breath a static charge --
A tongue that tastes like tin
Steely-eyed outside --
To hide
The enemy within...
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Brutal loss...  
Metnut : 5/3/2016 10:10 pm : link
Must win on Friday... Would get NYI in same position as round 1.
Should have been  
The 12th Man : 5/3/2016 10:11 pm : link
2 penalties there. An elbow and holding the stick in front
Horrible loss  
The 12th Man : 5/3/2016 10:12 pm : link
Fuck
RE: Should have been  
Fish : 5/3/2016 10:12 pm : link
In comment 12943934 The 12th Man said:
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2 penalties there. An elbow and holding the stick in front


I thought so. But it's playoffs OT so no calls.
Lightning sure  
Gutless Puke : 5/3/2016 10:14 pm : link
Know how to neutralize Tavares.
RE: Lightning sure  
timintey : 5/3/2016 10:16 pm : link
In comment 12943938 Gutless Puke said:
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Know how to neutralize Tavares.


True, he didn't have a great game but he should've had 2 assists if KO and Kulemin could finish.
RE: RE: Lightning sure  
Gutless Puke : 5/3/2016 10:18 pm : link
In comment 12943946 timintey said:
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In comment 12943938 Gutless Puke said:


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Know how to neutralize Tavares.



True, he didn't have a great game but he should've had 2 assists if KO and Kulemin could finish.


And game 2. Very quiet.
Didn't  
Metnut : 5/3/2016 10:20 pm : link
realize we still had a TO left. Why the fuck were some of our worst defensive players on the ice at the end?? WTF Capuono
Need to get CDH out of the lineup  
Mike from Ohio : 5/3/2016 10:22 pm : link
His game has been a mess. Poor decisions on outlet passes, physical mistakes, and no ability to clear the puck at all. Boychuk has also been brutal.

Too many great opportunities missed is the story of this game.

When did Kyle Okposo retire?
RE: Need to get CDH out of the lineup  
Dave M : 5/3/2016 10:30 pm : link
In comment 12943960 Mike from Ohio said:
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His game has been a mess. Poor decisions on outlet passes, physical mistakes, and no ability to clear the puck at all. Boychuk has also been brutal.

Too many great opportunities missed is the story of this game.

When did Kyle Okposo retire?


I couldn't agree more. At bare minimum switch him and Hickey but I'd prefer Pelech.

Deflating loss tonight. I'm still in the same exact spot the moment the game ended.
You fuckin pussies can't start a real thread?  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/3/2016 10:31 pm : link
Tough loss
My Bad I was the pussy in this situation  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/3/2016 10:32 pm : link
I'm a big fat piece of juice puss.

Awful loss
Halak??  
theold5j : 5/3/2016 10:33 pm : link
Any chance Capuano shakes it up and goes here.
RE: My Bad I was the pussy in this situation  
Dave M : 5/3/2016 10:37 pm : link
In comment 12943969 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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I'm a big fat piece of juice puss.

Awful loss


Are you OK bro?
Cappy ripping the refs  
Dave M : 5/3/2016 10:44 pm : link
He thinks Boyle will be suspended.
Cappy  
theold5j : 5/3/2016 10:44 pm : link
Calling for Boyle to get suspended.
He is right but no call was  
The 12th Man : 5/3/2016 11:13 pm : link
Made take the loss and move on. Boyle should be suspended . The holding of the stick did not allow aid to get to Boyle. Just tough way to lose a game
RE: He is right but no call was  
Dave M : 5/3/2016 11:54 pm : link
In comment 12944001 The 12th Man said:
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Made take the loss and move on. Boyle should be suspended . The holding of the stick did not allow aid to get to Boyle. Just tough way to lose a game


I wish I could see a better angle of the hit to really judge it but a stoppage seemed at least necessary there. You blow the leads they blew tonight you don't deserve to win anyway. Hopefully mothers day brings some luck. A huge loss made even bigger knowing that the Isles can't play day games.
Capuano  
KWhite2250 : 5/3/2016 11:59 pm : link
Should have to answer for the stupidity of putting the tavares line out to kill the last minute.
There is an aerial blue line view of the hit  
theold5j : 5/4/2016 12:08 am : link
Out there. I saw it on twitter. Looked worse than the ice level view, which was bad.
Hopefully boyle starts friday  
KWhite2250 : 5/4/2016 12:24 am : link
And capuano is man enough to out martin out and away we go!
RE: Hopefully boyle starts friday  
HeavyLevy : 5/4/2016 12:37 am : link
In comment 12944036 KWhite2250 said:
[quote] And capuano is man enough to out martin out and away we go! [/quot

Hmmm Stars and Islanders for Finals if not islanders than the Capitols.....
RE: Capuano  
Gutless Puke : 5/4/2016 8:02 am : link
In comment 12944031 KWhite2250 said:
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Should have to answer for the stupidity of putting the tavares line out to kill the last minute.


He wanted Tavares and/or Okposo to get an easy goal. That is the only reason why they were out there on the ice. There's no excuse for that and it cost them the game. Tavares/Okposo have no business being on the ice at that time. Those 2 cost them, as Okposo watched Drouin pass the puck instead of attacking him, and Tavares was again delinquent in covering the middle. Unacceptable, but expected with a buffoon behind the bench.
I'm as pissed about last night as anyone else  
Mike from Ohio : 5/4/2016 8:39 am : link
and I agree completely putting the JT line out in the last minute seems like a bad decision. The 4th line was out just before that, and I don't know what the status of the Nielsen line was, so it may have been a fatigue factor. I don't know.

What I do know is that we got a good effort last night - good enough to win the game. They (generally) played fast, hit and got pucks to the net munch better than they did in the previous 4 to 5 period going back to Game 1.

Where they are struggling is with sustained pressure in their own end. They are not getting beat with speed or odd man rushes. They are loosing because once the lightning set up in our zone, we need Greiss to freeze the puck, or we break down defensively. Some of it is the forwards, but much of that is on the D simply getting outworked. The forwards are also doing a miserable job of covering in the slot. Too many guys getting the puck with all kinds of time and space.

If the Isles play Friday like they played last night they can certainly win. But the play in the D zone needs to pick up.
Loosing?  
Mike from Ohio : 5/4/2016 8:41 am : link
Need more coffee...
RE: I'm as pissed about last night as anyone else  
KWhite2250 : 5/4/2016 8:44 am : link
In comment 12944145 Mike from Ohio said:
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and I agree completely putting the JT line out in the last minute seems like a bad decision. The 4th line was out just before that, and I don't know what the status of the Nielsen line was, so it may have been a fatigue factor. I don't know.

What I do know is that we got a good effort last night - good enough to win the game. They (generally) played fast, hit and got pucks to the net munch better than they did in the previous 4 to 5 period going back to Game 1.

Where they are struggling is with sustained pressure in their own end. They are not getting beat with speed or odd man rushes. They are loosing because once the lightning set up in our zone, we need Greiss to freeze the puck, or we break down defensively. Some of it is the forwards, but much of that is on the D simply getting outworked. The forwards are also doing a miserable job of covering in the slot. Too many guys getting the puck with all kinds of time and space.

If the Isles play Friday like they played last night they can certainly win. But the play in the D zone needs to pick up.


Capuano had a timeout. I think we all already know the coach really stinks. He should stop blaming the refs in his press conf and answer why he had JT and Okposo out there in that situation. Defense was needed not scoring. Those 2 are by far the worst forwards in their own zone.
we won game 6 agsint florida in similar fashion - - it happens  
theold5j : 5/4/2016 8:51 am : link
late goal on regulation with an OT winner. martin could have been called for a tripping penalty right before the tying goal, too.
Some players make more money  
The 12th Man : 5/4/2016 9:08 am : link
As a potential free agent thanks to the playoffs, Well, thanks to these games Kyle will be making less. So dis heartened how small he has played in such big games.
Jack needs to worry more about his late game decision making  
timintey : 5/4/2016 9:35 am : link
and less about the officiating.

Game 4 hopefully sees Pulock in for Zidlicky and Strome in for Bernier (though you could argue that Brock or Kuley should sit - Bernier just looks painfully slow out there).
RE: we won game 6 agsint florida in similar fashion - - it happens  
Mike in Long Beach : 5/4/2016 9:39 am : link
In comment 12944165 theold5j said:
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late goal on regulation with an OT winner. martin could have been called for a tripping penalty right before the tying goal, too.


This is all I have right now. The idea of "we stole one last time we were home, last night we had one stolen."

Even with that though, UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
Bailey  
KWhite2250 : 5/4/2016 9:40 am : link
Should take Quines spot on the top line. Quine has been pretty useless this series. We are forever grateful for what he provided in round 1 but we cant keep an AHL guy on the top line. Might even have to sit him for Strome but I dont think Cappy has the guts to do that. They really should go back to the old pairing of leddy-boychuk because that pairing is just brutal together. Boychuk might be hurt from the rangers game and then having to carry De Haans dead carcass on his back every game.

The Isles can beat this team. Just bounce back Friday and tie it up.
I agree on the defense  
pganut : 5/4/2016 9:41 am : link
Pairs should be 2-55, 3-44 and 14-6. Boychuk and CDH together have been terrible.
RE: I agree on the defense  
Mike in Long Beach : 5/4/2016 9:42 am : link
In comment 12944238 pganut said:
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Pairs should be 2-55, 3-44 and 14-6. Boychuk and CDH together have been terrible.


Totally agree.
I agree too  
timintey : 5/4/2016 9:49 am : link
thought Hamonic played really well last night. CDH, not so much...
Agree on the defense pairings  
Mike from Ohio : 5/4/2016 10:55 am : link
Between CDH constantly turning the puck over, and Boychuk looking for any and all opportunities to ice the puck, they are putting the team in a hole.

It's time for JT to reassert himself. Last night we got the secondary scoring, but did not get much from the top line. Okposo had a couple of chances he let go through his fingers, but the play was noticeably off from where it was against Florida. Stop trying to keep JT away from Hedman and just put him out there and let him play minutes (except the last minute with a one goal lead)

Greiss is still playing well, but doesn't seem to be making as many of those unexpectedly crucial saves he did in Game 1 or against Florida. Need both of our series one heroes to re-emerge on Friday.
No hearing for Boyle  
theold5j : 5/4/2016 11:57 am : link
Now he has to deal with Matt Martin on friday
Nothing to really  
JayBinQueens : 5/4/2016 11:58 am : link
add that hasn't been said.

Effort was there. Clean up the mistakes. Go back to Tampa 2-2
RE: No hearing for Boyle  
Gutless Puke : 5/4/2016 1:28 pm : link
In comment 12944568 theold5j said:
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Now he has to deal with Matt Martin on friday


Doubtful. When you're down 2-1, you can't be looking for revenge. Most likely, a penalty will be called. Not the time for nonsense.
RE: RE: No hearing for Boyle  
KWhite2250 : 5/4/2016 1:53 pm : link
In comment 12944911 Gutless Puke said:
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Now he has to deal with Matt Martin on friday



Doubtful. When you're down 2-1, you can't be looking for revenge. Most likely, a penalty will be called. Not the time for nonsense.


Martin can challenge him. Dont need to drop the gloves and start punching him. Boyle can be a pussy and not take up the challenge and martin can try to search him out and hit him like webb did to tucker
Agree  
JayBinQueens : 5/4/2016 1:54 pm : link
a big hit isn't a cause for a penalty.
RE: RE: RE: No hearing for Boyle  
Gutless Puke : 5/4/2016 2:00 pm : link
In comment 12944995 KWhite2250 said:
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In comment 12944911 Gutless Puke said:


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In comment 12944568 theold5j said:


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Now he has to deal with Matt Martin on friday



Doubtful. When you're down 2-1, you can't be looking for revenge. Most likely, a penalty will be called. Not the time for nonsense.



Martin can challenge him. Dont need to drop the gloves and start punching him. Boyle can be a pussy and not take up the challenge and martin can try to search him out and hit him like webb did to tucker


I remember that hit clear as day. It was a great lick, deserved, and really amped up the crowd. However, that was a clear charging penalty that refs let go. If Martin attempted something like that, it's 2 minutes at least. I say let it go and put it in the box for next season. Unless of course it's a 5-1 game in the 3rd.
JT named a finalist for NHL Mark Messier Leadership Award  
pganut : 5/4/2016 7:48 pm : link
The Messier award is given annually "to the player who exemplifies great leadership qualities to the team, on and off the ice, during the regular season".

The finalists are John Tavares, Alex Ovechkin and Shea Weber.
Looks like  
Metnut : 5/6/2016 11:26 am : link
Strome in for Quine and Pulock in for Zid. I'm fine with both changes. Zid looked good in round 1, but has been reduced to a pylon against the faster TB team. Strome should be able to add more to L1 than Quine has lately, even if Bernier hasn't done much to justify his lineup spot either.
Nice  
JayBinQueens : 5/6/2016 11:32 am : link
with the team we have, I think that's dressing the best players.


Now let's just wait and see what lines he comes up with
Tampa Bay attended  
KWhite2250 : 5/6/2016 12:01 pm : link
The Bieber concert!!! Hello bieber curse!!!
RE: Tampa Bay attended  
JayBinQueens : 5/6/2016 1:36 pm : link
In comment 12948153 KWhite2250 said:
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The Bieber concert!!! Hello bieber curse!!!


Lol.

Probably biased since I'm not a fan, but they couldn't find something better to do in NYC?
RE: Looks like  
Fish : 5/6/2016 1:38 pm : link
In comment 12948065 Metnut said:
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Strome in for Quine and Pulock in for Zid. I'm fine with both changes. Zid looked good in round 1, but has been reduced to a pylon against the faster TB team. Strome should be able to add more to L1 than Quine has lately, even if Bernier hasn't done much to justify his lineup spot either.


There are no better options than bernier.
Yea...  
Metnut : 5/6/2016 2:00 pm : link
I think I agree with you Fish. I miss Lee and even Grabovski :(
any word from  
JayBinQueens : 5/6/2016 2:19 pm : link
pga?
RE: any word from  
Dave M : 5/6/2016 2:39 pm : link
In comment 12948454 JayBinQueens said:
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pga?


He said thread would be a bit late today
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